[meteorite-list] Birthday Bash Photos

2011-02-05 Thread Arizona Keith
Hello List 


Here are some photos taken tonight at the Meteorite Men Birthday Bash

Hope this works, Enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arizonaviking/sets/72157625854587027/show/

Arizona Keith
Chandler, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] Birthday Bash Photos

2011-02-05 Thread Count Deiro
Thanks Arizona Keith and Ruben for covering the birthday party. Your pics and 
the live feed made it just like we 
couldn't make its were there. You gentlemen deserve an award. The Countess 
and I are really looking forward to being at Captain Blood's auction tonight.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-Original Message-
From: Arizona Keith arizonake...@cox.net
Sent: Feb 5, 2011 12:49 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Birthday Bash Photos

Hello List 

Here are some photos taken tonight at the Meteorite Men Birthday Bash

Hope this works, Enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arizonaviking/sets/72157625854587027/show/

Arizona Keith
Chandler, Arizona
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[meteorite-list] Live Streaming a Great success!

2011-02-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

I just looked at the stats on my website and found that we had 562
visits (from all over the world) to my live feed page over a 4 hour
period and up to 80 at one time!

What a blast!

Thanks to Jim and Wendy Wooddel for helping to make it possible!
Thanks also to Keith and Gary for the photos!

-- 
Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
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[meteorite-list] THE GREAT FIREBALL OF 1972

2011-02-05 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.Great show at the harvey's last night. Hey does anyone remember the 
great fireball of 1972.Did anyone ever see it? They said it was one of the 
greatest ever to be seen.
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Live Streaming a Great success!

2011-02-05 Thread Jan Bartels

Hi Ruben,

That sure was awesome!!
Now who needs to go to Tucson after this?

..That sounds really stupid I believe? right?
Anyway...it was great, thanks !!

Jan Bartels
Holland



- Original Message - 
From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Live Streaming a Great success!



Hi all,

I just looked at the stats on my website and found that we had 562
visits (from all over the world) to my live feed page over a 4 hour
period and up to 80 at one time!

What a blast!

Thanks to Jim and Wendy Wooddel for helping to make it possible!
Thanks also to Keith and Gary for the photos!

--
Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Full Circle With Correo

2011-02-05 Thread Larry Atkins

Great story Robert!

 I've always been a believer in what comes around goes around and there 
you have it, more proof!


Congrat's to Del!

 I've not been to Correo but the Jensens have told me what a tough hunt 
it is with  the houses and all. I'm not surprised though, Del's name 
has been popping up over the last couple years, quite a meteorite 
hunter from what I see.


Keep it up! We will have to hunt together sometime, I'll be in Az by 
Feb 8th for ~10 weeks of sunshine, meteorite hunting, and no snow 
shoveling or wood doggin'.



Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
 
IMCA # 1941
Ebay alienrockfarm
 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: scho...@mybluelight.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 12:52 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Full Circle With Correo


Hi List,

  I hope you will indulge me with regard to this email concerning a 
full-circle,

or pay-it-forward, moment I was so happy to be a small part of.

  Back in early December, I was contacted by a self-described amateur 
weekend
meteorite hunter named Del Waterbury. He explained that he had read a 
post I
made to the List in 2002 about the Correo strewnfield, and my August, 
2007
Meteorite magazine article, Let's Go, Correo!. He said that he had 
wanted to
hunt there, but was not having much luck in finding any helpful info 
concerning
the details of the strewnfield, such as size or orientation. He very 
politely

asked me if I would mind helping him.

  How could I refuse? Especially when I was in his place, 16 years ago, 
when I
contacted two veteran Correo hunters, Robert Haag and Steve Schoner, 
asking them
for help with the same questions. As they did for me, I happily shared 
anything
I knew about the site. Del graciously thanked me for my help and said 
he would

send me an email after the hunt with all the details of the result.

  Well, tonight I received a very nice email from Del. I was thrilled 
to see

that he actually was successful. In only one day of hunting, he found 2
fragments of Correo!  The first was a 5 grammer, and very close by, a 2 
gram
specimen. True to his word, Del sent me photos of his finds, along with 
his
appreciation for my help. That certainly made my day. And... he 
provided me the
opportunity to pay-it-forward... it being the kindness that I had 
been shown

all those years ago.

  Correo is not the same place it was 16 years ago. There were only a 
handful of
scattered house back then. A major section of the strewnfield is now 
occupied by
a small community! I had wished Del the best earlier, but deep down I 
felt the

odds were against him. But Del came thru. He went and he found!

  I am very humbled and thankful to Del for sharing the excitement of 
his finds,
and for giving me the chance to come full circle with Correo. And, 
thanks to

you, Steve and Robert, for starting this whole process to begin with. 

  Sincerely,
  Robert Woolard

         












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Re: [meteorite-list] Full Circle With Correo

2011-02-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi,

I have hunted with Del many times and he is very good at finding space
rocks!  Carbonaceous in Cali, as well as OC's in Arizona and NM. He is
hardly an amature...he is being modest.

So this does not surprise me at all as I know Robert is very cool and
always willing to share or help.  Both of you Rock in my book!

On 2/5/11, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote:
 Great story Robert!

   I've always been a believer in what comes around goes around and there
 you have it, more proof!

 Congrat's to Del!

   I've not been to Correo but the Jensens have told me what a tough hunt
 it is with  the houses and all. I'm not surprised though, Del's name
 has been popping up over the last couple years, quite a meteorite
 hunter from what I see.

 Keep it up! We will have to hunt together sometime, I'll be in Az by
 Feb 8th for ~10 weeks of sunshine, meteorite hunting, and no snow
 shoveling or wood doggin'.


 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins

 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm



 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: scho...@mybluelight.com
 Sent: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 12:52 am
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Full Circle With Correo


 Hi List,

   I hope you will indulge me with regard to this email concerning a
 full-circle,
 or pay-it-forward, moment I was so happy to be a small part of.

   Back in early December, I was contacted by a self-described amateur
 weekend
 meteorite hunter named Del Waterbury. He explained that he had read a
 post I
 made to the List in 2002 about the Correo strewnfield, and my August,
 2007
 Meteorite magazine article, Let's Go, Correo!. He said that he had
 wanted to
 hunt there, but was not having much luck in finding any helpful info
 concerning
 the details of the strewnfield, such as size or orientation. He very
 politely
 asked me if I would mind helping him.

   How could I refuse? Especially when I was in his place, 16 years ago,
 when I
 contacted two veteran Correo hunters, Robert Haag and Steve Schoner,
 asking them
 for help with the same questions. As they did for me, I happily shared
 anything
 I knew about the site. Del graciously thanked me for my help and said
 he would
 send me an email after the hunt with all the details of the result.

   Well, tonight I received a very nice email from Del. I was thrilled
 to see
 that he actually was successful. In only one day of hunting, he found 2
 fragments of Correo!  The first was a 5 grammer, and very close by, a 2
 gram
 specimen. True to his word, Del sent me photos of his finds, along with
 his
 appreciation for my help. That certainly made my day. And... he
 provided me the
 opportunity to pay-it-forward... it being the kindness that I had
 been shown
 all those years ago.

   Correo is not the same place it was 16 years ago. There were only a
 handful of
 scattered house back then. A major section of the strewnfield is now
 occupied by
 a small community! I had wished Del the best earlier, but deep down I
 felt the
 odds were against him. But Del came thru. He went and he found!

   I am very humbled and thankful to Del for sharing the excitement of
 his finds,
 and for giving me the chance to come full circle with Correo. And,
 thanks to
 you, Steve and Robert, for starting this whole process to begin with.

   Sincerely,
   Robert Woolard














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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay: Stunning Collection Pieces for Sale: LINUM, ALH76009, JUVINAS, MAUERKIRCHEN, LANCON, SHALKA, JELICA, WESTON...and more!

2011-02-05 Thread Peter Marmet
Hello All,

on ebay I'm selling some of my collection crown jewels.
They are ending in about one day. Please have a look:

http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=

- LINUM, Germany, fell 1854, 2.358(!) g

- ALH76009, Antarctica(!), 8.5(!) g

- JUVINAS, France, fell 1821, 1.65 g with stunning crust!

- MAUERKIRCHEN, Austria, fell 1768(!), 0.960 g

- LANCON, France, fell 1897, 2.44 g!

- SHALKA, India, fell 1850, 0.939 g

- WESTON, USA, fell 1807, 0.302 g

- ALLENDE, Mexico, fell 1969, 4.298 g, nice slice!

- ORGUEIL, France, fell 1864, 8 mg

- JELICA, Serbia, fell 1889, 0.9 g

- NWA 6292 (BRA), NWA 5731 (LL3.2), NWA 5239 (CV3).

http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=

Thank you,
Peter

Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747
Bern, Switzerland
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

2011-02-05 Thread cdtucson
Martin,
Here is the response I received from the seller on eBay;

   
Dear meteoritemax,

Hello Carl,

My proof is only the Grumman fellow's word, and the feeling of my friend the 
Planetary geologist. It is definatley rock, not resin. If you met the engineer 
before he dies, and saw the amount of NASA related stuff he had, and the fact 
the he had ne reason to lie, escpecially by tellin me to not tell any one where 
I got it from, tells me the story is real. Since I have no documentation, well, 
I doubt that it will sell. it is real, and if I could prove it, well, priceless 
really...thanks for the interest...JIM

Obviously, he is not going to convince anybody he has a real moon rock.
Martin, I ask questions of this list because of people like you that have way 
more experience than I have.
Normally I get really great info. Some of the time I get info that is less than 
great. So, I try to sort it out myself. 

In America possession is roughly nine-tenths of the law. ( One of my favorite 
people ever, John Lennon says nine-tenths of the law is nine-tenths of the 
problem)  We even have something called the statute of limitations which only 
recognizes violations of the law for seven years for certain things. . So, 
after that *technically* things revert back to legal again. 
I am not a lawyer so, I am not offering any legal advise. I am just saying that 
here in the United States we don't like to treat our citizens as they are 
sometimes treated in other countries.
For example some countries simply declare something a national treasure and 
*Nationalize it*  and it automatically becomes the property of the Government. 
In Mexico they do this for many many things from oil to banks, to gems and 
minerals and as bazaar as this sounds. They even *Nationalize* artists and 
their works of art. People who own original paintings by these artists loose 
ownership on the whim of the Government.
I would like to think that the US would continue to determine these matters by 
trial in court. Not some arbitrary decision made by  our lame Congress or some  
thug like the IRS barging in and taking what they want. I have full confidence 
in our judicial system so, am looking at them for this because my friend that 
has this example like the one Phil sites does not know what to do with theirs. 
And I would consider buying it if and only if I know it is legal to do so. 
Thanks as always for your posts . Again, I just want to know. Elton says he 
wrote NASA for the details so I'm sure he will let us know what he finds out. 
Best regards,
Carl



- flyin-junkie 

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: 
 Hi Carl,

That isn't the question, because:

In most states of laws,
the transfer of ownership can only happen, if a person acquires a thing from a 
person, who was the rightful owner before.
So it's not the question of import laws, if the sample of Honduras was stolen.
Or whether a sample can be authenticated to be from the Apollo missions.

Neither your strange manager, if his supposed Apollo piece is real, if he 
received it not officially from the government of the United States, even not 
if the president himself had given it to him, is an owner,
neither the ebay-clown is an owner, if an NASA-employee unofficially as he 
writes had given an Apollo sample to that other guy because he got a daughter. 
(Hey how many workers were occupied with the Apollo project and how many of 
them became father... I guess, we have to send a lot of astronauts more to the 
Moon, if they all should get a piece).

And come on, Carl,
None of us could even think about selling a REAL rock from Moon,
if we hadn't something better to state, than... yah a friend of mine got once 
something from another friend, who was once working there and there, and from 
this working place he unofficially took something, and now, I showed it to 
someone, who said, oh it's from Moon. And because I'm so modest, I ask not 10k$ 
but only 5k$ from you and ebay is the right place to offer it.
Good morning!

Ridiculous.

And btw. I guess there is no long-term-meteorite-dealer on this list, who 
hadn't received yet offers from various sides to buy authentic Apollo and 
Luna-material.

In these old movies from the 1930ies, the jerks sell always the Brooklyn bridge 
to stupid immigrants...

But quiet now,
I have to make the purchase of my lifetime now.

This meteorite containing iron might be from Diablo Crater in Arizona. 
http://www.meteorite.com/meteor_crater/
most likely contains Iron 92%, Nickel 7.1%, Cobalt .50%, Gallium 80 ppm,* 
Germanium 320ppm, Iridium 2ppm, Platinum 8ppm.results may vary or be 
none-existent item may contain unknown minerals
the meteorite has weird cracks which most likely took place outside the solar 
system

Yah if the seller says so, it must be the real McCoy,
He asks only $751,200.00 for that cool piece of 1 inch diameter.

Or shall I maybe take that first 

[meteorite-list] the met bash

2011-02-05 Thread steve arnold
Hi again all.I was amazed at how well rubin and the met guys did last.It was 
great to see this live,since I was not there.I have been to 7 tucson shows,and 
it's even better being there.But this was the next best thing.Congrats to all 
who put on a great show.31 lbs down and and as wife says,looking good.Have a 
great day and the rest of the show.
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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[meteorite-list] AD: NEW Nakhlite NWA 5790 !!!, MOAPA VALLEY (CM1 !), NOGOYA (CM2) and KAROONDA (CK4), very rare small fragments for sale

2011-02-05 Thread karmaka
Hello all

I have some auctions ending on EBAY tomorrow afternoon  
(Sunday at around 2.45 pm PST / 5.45 pm EST / 22.45 GMT/ 23.45 CET).

For sale are some affordable small fragments of some very rare meteorites.

Especially the new Nakhlite NWA 5790 and the CM1 MOAPA VALLEY 
are virtually impossible to get as small affordable fragments.

There is only very little material available.

For all those who can't be in Tucson right now it's a great occasion 
to acquire material of these very rare meteorites without paying much.

Have a look if you like.

[http://shop.ebay.com/karmaka/m.html]

 
NEW! Nakhlite NWA 5790 EXTREMELY rare MARTIAN Meteorite - almost impossible to 
get - ONLY A FEW MG AVAILABLE!

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Nakhlite-NWA-5790-EXTREMELY-RARE-Meteorite-MARTIAN-/320651411149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa8503ecd

 
MOAPA VALLEY - CM 1 - EXTREMELY RARE !! - Meteorite USA - ONE of only TWO CM1 
meteorites available to collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOAPA-VALLEY-CM-1-EXTREMELY-RARE-Meteorite-USA-/320651410670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa8503cee


KAROONDA (CK4) - VERY RARE Historic Fall - Meteorite - TYPE SPECIMEN of all CK 
chond.! - from the Museum of Victoria, Australia

http://cgi.ebay.com/KAROONDA-CK4-VERY-RARE-Historic-Fall-Meteorite-/320650549204?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa84317d4
 

NOGOYA (CM2) - VERY RARE Historic Fall 1879 - Meteorite

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOGOYA-CM2-VERY-RARE-Historic-Fall-1879-Meteorite-/320651411948?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa85041ec

Thank you

Have a nice weekend!
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[meteorite-list] FW: AD ebay auctions ending this evening

2011-02-05 Thread Warren Sansoucie




Hello List!

If anyone wants to look, I have a few items ending this evening.

http://stores.ebay.com/Resurrectio-Ad-Referendum?_rdc=1

Thanks,

Warren Sansoucie 
IMCA 3174
St. Louis MO  
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[meteorite-list] AD - Tucson Meteorite Auction and some offers

2011-02-05 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Friends, Collectors and Listees,


MICHAEL BLOOD AUCTION TONIGHT -

The annual Michael Blood Meteorite Auction is tonight, and I look
forward to watching it live on the web for the first time - a big
kudos goes out to Ruben for making this possible.  :)

For those of you who will be there, or will be absentee bidders,
please take a look at my auction lots - 22,23,24,25,26,27,69,70.

Note - the Riker box displays I am offering in the auction contain
larger specimens than what I usually sell in my store.  These displays
contain some of the bigger and nicer micros of these meteorites that I
have.

Also note the limited edition giclee that is a 36 inch wide map of
the Saharan Desert with all of the important locations and meteorites
labelled on it.  The retail price of this giclee is almost $300, but
the one in the auction has no reserve or minimum bid - so this is a
great chance to score one of these maps at a bargain price.


NEW MATERIAL AND METEORITES ON THE WAY -

In the next week, I am acquiring a ton of new material, including many
rare falls, rare types, and some Moldavite.  I will also have some
more UNWA stones and UNWA bulk lots to offer - I have been out of
stock on this stuff for a long time.  So keep on eye on my Twitter or
RSS feed to get the jump on these new specimens when I list them.


PRIVATE METEORITE MAILING LIST -

I also maintain a private mailing list for my friends and clients -
all of my new material is offered to my mailing list first.  Once they
buy up what they want, I offer the remainders to the general public.
If you would like to be on this mailing list, email me and let me
know.  This list is confidential, spam-free, and nobody else will see
your email address except me.  Mailing list members also get a
permanent 25% discount on everything in the store!


METEORITES FOR SALE -

Skull-shaped Campo del Cielo iron meteorite - 2.5kg weight with
interesting surface features and great aesthetics.  This specimen is
100% stable and has been decontaminated and stabilized by the Pat
Mulvany process - his iron meteorites are the most stable you will
ever see, and that is not sales hype.  Just ask anyone who has
purchased one.  All of my clients who purchased Mulvany irons have
been thrilled and amazed at how stable they are - even know rusters
like Campo, Nantan, and Dronino.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-iron-meteorite-huge-skull-shaped-25kg-mass


Big full-slice of NWA 6026, a rare carbonaceous CK5 meteorite.  This
slice has it all - crust, chondrules, CAI's, shock veins, and a lack
of oxidation (W1/2).  This is the last large slice of this meteorite
that I have, and the last one that will ever be available on the
market.  The TKW of this meteorite is low and all other specimens are
now sitting in collections.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6026-exotic-new-carbonaceous-chondrite-ck5-big-full-slice


Strange new diogenite NWA 6290 - one of the weirdest diogenites you
will ever see.  Words can't really describe it properly, so please see
the photos.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290-strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta-14g-slice


Trinitite Atom-Bomb Glass display - own a piece of history from the
day mankind shattered the atom at the Trinity test site - the very
first atomic test.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/limited-edition-trinitite-display-vintage-pop-sci-mushroom-cloud


Big 16g endcut of the superb meteorwrong, Mendota - This is one of the
most interesting meteorwrongs since Shirokovksy, with dense colorful
clasts and veins of metal.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mendota-famous-beautiful-meteorwrong-loaded-with-metal-clasts


Polished Moldavite for jewelry making. This piece has exceptional
color and clarity -

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/moldavite-tumble-polished-premium-grade-gem-424-carats


DON'T FORGET - use coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% off your
entire order.


Thanks for looking and have a great weekend!

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

2011-02-05 Thread fallingfusion
In the description, his Planetary Geologist buddy had supposedly offered 
$5000 for it, but he declined due to the risk associated with the transaction? 
Boy, that makes me want to bid on it. (As Borat says Nnno!!)

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:34:54 
To: cdtuc...@cox.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

Upon looking at this auction again, I am now suspecting that this sample might 
be the real thing.  That label appears to be a NASA control label specific to 
space materials, which in this case is the supposed moon rock.

My question now is this... There appears to be a small photo of the specimen in 
question on this control label. If so, that would further define this specimen 
as authentic.

Could this be a research specimen that somehow escaped government control?

Something to think about.

But all said, with the legal aspects of legit ownership, I would be reluctant 
to bid on it...

Steve Schoner 

-- Original Message --
From: cdtuc...@cox.net
To: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com, countde...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:51:48 -0500

Steve,
Where is the beef
Sure , we would all love to have what you have but , what is the difference 
between what you have and anybody else?
Say, I was the king of England and my good buddy the President of the USA gave 
me a genuine moon rock. And he did give away plenty.
I decide to sell it on EBay. 
Where is the law that says that is illegal?
And how does that differ from what you have?
Is it because you did not get caught buying yours? 
Why is it okay for you to buy moon material and not others?
Again, show us the beef? 
What exactly does the law state and how do you know this? Normally , when 
people make statements they want to  back them up with evidence? 
I believe you I just want to read it myself. And I'm quite sure you have piqued 
the interest of others as well.
Yes, I am home getting my frozen pipes replaced. Waiting for the B-bash 
tonight. 
Best regards,
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com wrote: 
 Yes, Count, I remember that day in December two years ago when I won it.  My 
 heart was beating fast as I watched the seconds go expecting this piece of 
 tape jumping from hundreds to thousands in the last seconds.
 
 2 seconds before closing I placed my bid...
 
 I could not believe it... I sniped it for $451.00!
 
 (BTW: The worst time to place items on Ebay is the Holidays, it is a buyer's 
 market and a sellers loss.)
 
 The Moon Dust tape and Documents of Authenticity from Spaceflori came on 
 Dec 18th, 2009.  I spent days after looking at this tiny piece of tape under 
 my microscope, amazed to see the spherical glass beads, green, orange, beige 
 glass beads, other lunar dust particles, and even a few fibers of beta cloth 
 from the glove that Neal Armstrong wore when he picked Magazine S from the 
 surface of the moon. 
 
 As for that piece of reputed Apollo moon rock on Ebay now... As I wrote 
 before... Even a piece reputed to be from the Apollo program can be 
 confiscated by NASA.  And the buyer should he or she win it, is not exempt 
 from such confiscation either.
 
 The seller is on dangerous legal ground.
 
 Steve Schoner
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net
 To: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: m...@miataylor.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 03:16:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
 
 Hi Steve and List,
 
 Thanks for posting the link to your very informative video. Congratulations 
 on what must be one of the all time best sniping incidents on EBay. You do 
 have the real deal.
 
 Listers might not know that the international auction house, Sothebys, 
 auctioned dust from a Russian unmanned lunar mission. In 1970 the Soviet 
 Union sent an automated sample-return mission to the moon and three fragments 
 collected on this mission, weighing just 200 milligrams, were sold by 
 Sotheby's Vice Chairman, David Redden, for $442.500.00. The sale was held in 
 1993, so in today's dollars we are probably talking near a million.
 
 You lucky dog.
 
 Count Deiro
 IMCA 3536
 
   
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com
 Sent: Feb 3, 2011 10:10 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
 
 As much as I know it is illegal to even present an item such as this rock on 
 Ebay as an authentic Apollo recovered moon rock.  Even if it is not, just to 
 state that it is is enough to have it 

Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

2011-02-05 Thread Steve Schoner
I think that with such a fragment a forensic inspection of it might reveal 
its true identity.  I am sure that true lunar Apollo samples will be 
significantly different from lunar meteorites.

I am told that the label might not be a control label, but a standard generic 
type NASA label.

But real or fake, because it was offered with supposed NASA atribution...  
Buyer beware.

There are legal ramifications with Apollo moon samples.

Steve



-- Original Message --
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
To: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com,
meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, cdtuc...@cox.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:25:53 +

In the description, his Planetary Geologist buddy had supposedly offered 
$5000 for it, but he declined due to the risk associated with the transaction? 
Boy, that makes me want to bid on it. (As Borat says Nnno!!)

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:34:54 
To: cdtuc...@cox.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

Upon looking at this auction again, I am now suspecting that this sample might 
be the real thing.  That label appears to be a NASA control label specific to 
space materials, which in this case is the supposed moon rock.

My question now is this... There appears to be a small photo of the specimen in 
question on this control label. If so, that would further define this specimen 
as authentic.

Could this be a research specimen that somehow escaped government control?

Something to think about.

But all said, with the legal aspects of legit ownership, I would be reluctant 
to bid on it...

Steve Schoner 

-- Original Message --
From: cdtuc...@cox.net
To: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com, countde...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:51:48 -0500

Steve,
Where is the beef
Sure , we would all love to have what you have but , what is the difference 
between what you have and anybody else?
Say, I was the king of England and my good buddy the President of the USA gave 
me a genuine moon rock. And he did give away plenty.
I decide to sell it on EBay. 
Where is the law that says that is illegal?
And how does that differ from what you have?
Is it because you did not get caught buying yours? 
Why is it okay for you to buy moon material and not others?
Again, show us the beef? 
What exactly does the law state and how do you know this? Normally , when 
people make statements they want to  back them up with evidence? 
I believe you I just want to read it myself. And I'm quite sure you have piqued 
the interest of others as well.
Yes, I am home getting my frozen pipes replaced. Waiting for the B-bash 
tonight. 
Best regards,
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com wrote: 
 Yes, Count, I remember that day in December two years ago when I won it.  My 
 heart was beating fast as I watched the seconds go expecting this piece of 
 tape jumping from hundreds to thousands in the last seconds.
 
 2 seconds before closing I placed my bid...
 
 I could not believe it... I sniped it for $451.00!
 
 (BTW: The worst time to place items on Ebay is the Holidays, it is a buyer's 
 market and a sellers loss.)
 
 The Moon Dust tape and Documents of Authenticity from Spaceflori came on 
 Dec 18th, 2009.  I spent days after looking at this tiny piece of tape under 
 my microscope, amazed to see the spherical glass beads, green, orange, beige 
 glass beads, other lunar dust particles, and even a few fibers of beta cloth 
 from the glove that Neal Armstrong wore when he picked Magazine S from the 
 surface of the moon. 
 
 As for that piece of reputed Apollo moon rock on Ebay now... As I wrote 
 before... Even a piece reputed to be from the Apollo program can be 
 confiscated by NASA.  And the buyer should he or she win it, is not exempt 
 from such confiscation either.
 
 The seller is on dangerous legal ground.
 
 Steve Schoner
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net
 To: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: m...@miataylor.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 03:16:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
 
 Hi Steve and List,
 
 Thanks for posting the link to your very informative video. Congratulations 
 on what must be one of the all time best sniping incidents on EBay. You do 
 have the real deal.
 
 Listers might not know that the international auction house, Sothebys, 
 auctioned dust from a Russian unmanned lunar mission. In 1970 

[meteorite-list] Attention Meteorite Collectors who use Facebook - viral spam app warning

2011-02-05 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Folks,

This is a heads-up for Facebook users.  There are some new viral-spam
applications going around.  These are variations on a previous similar
scam.  The app will claim to show you who visits your profile, like a
stat-tracker does on a personal website.  However, visitor data is
held in private by FB and nobody or no app can show you this data.
It's a complete scam. These apps have names like See Who Stalks You.

If you give the app permission to access your profile,  the app will
then spam all of your FB friends by posting a link to this garbage app
on your wall, thus encouraging others to fall for it.

I am posting this to Met-List because I noticed that 3 members of this
List have already been tricked by this app.

If you are a victim of these apps, simply block them permanently by
clicking on the Block this Application link on the app's main page.

In the future, keep this in mind - scammers use these apps to gain
access to your profile information, possibly to steal personal
information that can be used to hack into your email account or PayPal
account.  Often, a security question for your email or PP acount is
the name of your pet, mother's maiden name, etc.  Such information can
be found on some people's FB profiles.  That makes it easy for a
scammer to use the Lost Password trick on your accounts.  They will
answer the security question (thanks to the info they gained from your
FB wall) and then change your password - locking you out of your
account and then they will drain your PP account.  So just block these
apps immediately as soon as someone invites you.

Best regards,

MikeG


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[meteorite-list] AD: ENSISHEIM, Wold Cottage, Bonita Springs, Peekskill, Abee, SYLACAUGA, Orgueil, Fisher, New Concord much more ending on eBay!

2011-02-05 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers, 


I have some great historic meteorites ending soon on eBay. If you have been 
looking for those high end meteorites, look no further. I have meteorites from 
the 1400's all the way up to 2008, all with great historic pasts and scientific 
importance. If your looking for the first dated fall from 1492, or the greatest 
Hoax meteorite, which is also one of the rarest meteorites. But that's not all, 
I have many world class meteorites to offer with world class stories, from Mrs 
Hodges Sylacauga, L' Aigle, St. Louis, to Almahat Sitta aka 2008 TC3. A 
meteorite is a meteorite, but a meteorite with a history and legacy, will 
always add aura to your meteorite collection and value. Please take a look and 
if you have any questions please contact me and ill get back to you. 


Best of the Best 
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html 


Auction style


Ensisheim, Sylacauga, Orgueil meteorite KIT, rare items!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250767287603ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2952wt_931


ORGUEIL meteorite 28mg, very rare historic fall-1864!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260731214296ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2377wt_931


PEEKSKILL meteorite from the Lang Collection 1992 NY.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250767291249ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2506wt_931


WOLD COTTAGE rare meteorite 1795-1st classified from UK **JUST IN**
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ABEE 198mg meteorite-ONLY know EH4 impact-melt breccia.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250767512811ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2122wt_931


L'AIGLE 205mg Historic meteorite from France, 1803 rare
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260731210606ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_2200wt_931


BONITA SPRINGS found amoung skeletons in 1938 in FL USA
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250767511896ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_1937wt_931


NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260731413985ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_1875wt_1181


FISHER 1894 historic meteorite 1st fall from Minnesota.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260731414713ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_1625wt_970


Thank you 
Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
eBaystore 
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html 
















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Re: [meteorite-list] the met bash

2011-02-05 Thread Richard Montgomery

Welcome back Steve, again!

Richard Montgomery (goldierocks)


- Original Message - 
From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] the met bash


Hi again all.I was amazed at how well rubin and the met guys did last.It was
great to see this live,since I was not there.I have been to 7 tucson 
shows,and
it's even better being there.But this was the next best thing.Congrats to 
all

who put on a great show.31 lbs down and and as wife says,looking good.Have a
great day and the rest of the show.
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!
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[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

2011-02-05 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All,

First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I hope
you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last night at
the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by everyone
else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to Tucson again
this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our ground
software operational for our satellite launch in less than six
months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next time
our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)

I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me that
I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled and
(as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago) simultaneously
a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last night
to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share the
stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who I
understand also won a Harvey.

As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to share
with the List a little early birthday gift that I presented
Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his birthday
to announce publically:

MPC 72991 citation:

(132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
 Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is co-host of the popular Science Channel
series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on meteoritics,
paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites on four continents,
he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National Geographic, PBS, the
BBC and the History Channel.

- - - - -

Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
Eccentricity: 0.1440889
Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
Absolute magnitude: 14.4

Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning 1995-2010
Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
Discovery date : 2002 09 12
Discovery site : Palomar
Discoverer : Matson, R. 

The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3 orbital resonance
with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two Jovian orbits.
The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently there are
only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a percent of all
known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean albedo of
only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this albedo and
an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate size of
8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the size of
Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-) Assuming
a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of around
4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric tons!

Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet club!

Best wishes,
Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

2011-02-05 Thread Alexander Seidel
Wow, Geoff, what a present! Congrats!
And many thanks to Rob for his idea!!
Thumbs up, guys, and have a good time
in Tucson this weekend.

Alex
Berlin/Germany

..who wonders whether Ruben´s video stream
will work for me this night, or, better asked:
if I will make it waking up at 3.30 am local??

 

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:38:15 -0800
 Von: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

 Hi All,
 
 First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I hope
 you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last night at
 the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by everyone
 else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to Tucson again
 this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our ground
 software operational for our satellite launch in less than six
 months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next time
 our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)
 
 I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me that
 I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled and
 (as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago) simultaneously
 a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last night
 to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share the
 stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who I
 understand also won a Harvey.
 
 As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to share
 with the List a little early birthday gift that I presented
 Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his birthday
 to announce publically:
 
 MPC 72991 citation:
 
 (132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
  Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is co-host of the popular Science Channel
 series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on meteoritics,
 paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites on four continents,
 he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National Geographic, PBS,
 the
 BBC and the History Channel.
 
 - - - - -
 
 Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
 Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
 Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
 Eccentricity: 0.1440889
 Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
 Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
 Absolute magnitude: 14.4
 
 Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning 1995-2010
 Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
 Discovery date : 2002 09 12
 Discovery site : Palomar
 Discoverer : Matson, R. 
 
 The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3 orbital resonance
 with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two Jovian orbits.
 The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently there are
 only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a percent of all
 known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean albedo of
 only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this albedo and
 an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate size of
 8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the size of
 Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-) Assuming
 a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of around
 4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric tons!
 
 Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet club!
 
 Best wishes,
 Rob
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

2011-02-05 Thread Walter Branch

Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor
planet club!


Yes, indeed.  Congratulations.  Thats pretty cool.

A very exclusive club

-Walter



- Original Message - 
From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!



Hi All,

First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I hope
you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last night at
the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by everyone
else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to Tucson again
this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our ground
software operational for our satellite launch in less than six
months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next time
our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)

I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me that
I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled and
(as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago) simultaneously
a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last night
to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share the
stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who I
understand also won a Harvey.

As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to share
with the List a little early birthday gift that I presented
Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his birthday
to announce publically:

MPC 72991 citation:

(132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is co-host of the popular Science Channel
series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on meteoritics,
paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites on four continents,
he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National Geographic, PBS, 
the

BBC and the History Channel.

- - - - -

Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
Eccentricity: 0.1440889
Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
Absolute magnitude: 14.4

Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning 1995-2010
Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
Discovery date : 2002 09 12
Discovery site : Palomar
Discoverer : Matson, R.

The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3 orbital resonance
with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two Jovian orbits.
The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently there are
only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a percent of all
known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean albedo of
only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this albedo and
an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate size of
8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the size of
Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-) Assuming
a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of around
4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric tons!

Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet club!

Best wishes,
Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Attention Meteorite Collectors who use Facebook -viral spam app warning

2011-02-05 Thread Rob Holcomb

Hi MikeG,
I would like to add that blocking an app does not remove it from your 
profile nor does it stop the app from harvesting you and your friends 
personal information, it simply blocks it from posting on your wall. And if 
it's posted and you click block then it's already done it's damage.


You should also check the Application security area regularly and remove all 
apps that you don't use or recognize, go to Account  Privacy Settings  
Apps and Websites  Apps you use.  Facebook doesn't make it easy to check 
this, intentionally, but it is a good idea to purge the list of apps 
periodically. My volume of junk messages and emails goes way down after 
purging.


Have a great weekend,
Rob
http://www.rholcomb.com

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Facebook -viral spam app warning



Hi Folks,

This is a heads-up for Facebook users.  There are some new viral-spam
applications going around.  These are variations on a previous similar
scam.  The app will claim to show you who visits your profile, like a
stat-tracker does on a personal website.  However, visitor data is
held in private by FB and nobody or no app can show you this data.
It's a complete scam. These apps have names like See Who Stalks You.

If you give the app permission to access your profile,  the app will
then spam all of your FB friends by posting a link to this garbage app
on your wall, thus encouraging others to fall for it.

I am posting this to Met-List because I noticed that 3 members of this
List have already been tricked by this app.

If you are a victim of these apps, simply block them permanently by
clicking on the Block this Application link on the app's main page.

In the future, keep this in mind - scammers use these apps to gain
access to your profile information, possibly to steal personal
information that can be used to hack into your email account or PayPal
account.  Often, a security question for your email or PP acount is
the name of your pet, mother's maiden name, etc.  Such information can
be found on some people's FB profiles.  That makes it easy for a
scammer to use the Lost Password trick on your accounts.  They will
answer the security question (thanks to the info they gained from your
FB wall) and then change your password - locking you out of your
account and then they will drain your PP account.  So just block these
apps immediately as soon as someone invites you.

Best regards,

MikeG


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[meteorite-list] Gold Basin live feed?

2011-02-05 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello John, Ruben, and List,

John wrote:

Just linked up to Ruben's live feed and it's working great. This should set
 a new standard for technology with the meteorite community at the Tucson Show


Ruben, will you be live streaming John Blennert's
Gold Basin presentation at 18 hrs (2 am our time)?


Best wishes,

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

2011-02-05 Thread Richard Kowalski
Yep Rob, A good time was had by all last night. A lot of fun and yes, I was 
shocked by receiving a Harvey as well. Mine is the In my Own Orbit. Ha! No 
doubt! Congrats too on your Harvey.

You beat me to the naming. I just checked recently for the name Notkin and saw 
that he had a rock named for him already.

Congrats Geoff! Well earned!

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--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net wrote:

 From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 2:38 PM
 Hi All,
 
 First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I
 hope
 you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last
 night at
 the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by
 everyone
 else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to
 Tucson again
 this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our
 ground
 software operational for our satellite launch in less than
 six
 months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next
 time
 our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)
 
 I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me
 that
 I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled
 and
 (as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago)
 simultaneously
 a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last
 night
 to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share
 the
 stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who
 I
 understand also won a Harvey.
 
 As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to
 share
 with the List a little early birthday gift that I
 presented
 Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his
 birthday
 to announce publically:
 
 MPC 72991 citation:
 
 (132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
      Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is
 co-host of the popular Science Channel
 series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on
 meteoritics,
 paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites
 on four continents,
 he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National
 Geographic, PBS, the
 BBC and the History Channel.
 
 - - - - -
 
 Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
 Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
 Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
 Eccentricity: 0.1440889
 Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
 Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
 Absolute magnitude: 14.4
 
 Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning
 1995-2010
 Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
 Discovery date : 2002 09 12
 Discovery site : Palomar
 Discoverer : Matson, R. 
 
 The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3
 orbital resonance
 with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two
 Jovian orbits.
 The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently
 there are
 only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a
 percent of all
 known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean
 albedo of
 only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this
 albedo and
 an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate
 size of
 8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the
 size of
 Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-)
 Assuming
 a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of
 around
 4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric
 tons!
 
 Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet
 club!
 
 Best wishes,
 Rob
 
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[meteorite-list] Gold Basin live feed?

2011-02-05 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello All,

... and especially Arizona Keith!

No live feed from John Blennert's presentation so let's hope that
our Arizona Keith will be there to take a few pictures that we
are all looking forward to!

Best wishes from 02:05 hrs
late night / early morning
Germany,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Tucson pics updated w/ Birthday Bash

2011-02-05 Thread Gary Fujihara
While waiting for the auction webcast to begin, point your browser to 
http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Tucson2011.html for images of last night's 
Birthday Bash and other action in showrooms throughout Tucson.

Gary Fujihara
Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html  
(808) 640-9161

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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

2011-02-05 Thread Arlene Schlazer
Congrats to you and all the others who won a Harvey Award last nite.  And 
what an incredible birthday gift for Geoff!!!   After recognizing so many 
others all these years for their contributions to the meteorite world, its 
so nice to see him being rewarded for all he's given us..Very well 
deserved.now if we only knew what type of meteorite it would 
produce!  Congratulations Geoff!!!

Arlene Schlazer


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From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!



Hi All,

First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I hope
you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last night at
the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by everyone
else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to Tucson again
this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our ground
software operational for our satellite launch in less than six
months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next time
our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)

I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me that
I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled and
(as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago) simultaneously
a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last night
to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share the
stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who I
understand also won a Harvey.

As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to share
with the List a little early birthday gift that I presented
Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his birthday
to announce publically:

MPC 72991 citation:

(132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is co-host of the popular Science Channel
series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on meteoritics,
paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites on four continents,
he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National Geographic, PBS, 
the

BBC and the History Channel.

- - - - -

Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
Eccentricity: 0.1440889
Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
Absolute magnitude: 14.4

Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning 1995-2010
Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
Discovery date : 2002 09 12
Discovery site : Palomar
Discoverer : Matson, R.

The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3 orbital resonance
with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two Jovian orbits.
The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently there are
only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a percent of all
known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean albedo of
only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this albedo and
an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate size of
8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the size of
Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-) Assuming
a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of around
4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric tons!

Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet club!

Best wishes,
Rob

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[meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

2011-02-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
HI

We are now live but having internet troubleskeep your fingers crossed!

go here to see/hear and chat!
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/livevideofeed.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

2011-02-05 Thread Alexander Seidel
I could follow the auction video stream for some entertaining 1 1/2 hours, with 
some few interruptions only for technical reasons, from my site in Germany, 
early morning local time here. Nicely done, Ruben, thx a lot!

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:34:19 -0700
 Von: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 An: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

 HI
 
 We are now live but having internet troubleskeep your fingers crossed!
 
 go here to see/hear and chat!
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/livevideofeed.htm
 
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 Rock On!
 
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[meteorite-list] NWA Saharan Desert Meteorite Map - Blood Auction

2011-02-05 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi List and Anne Black,

For those of you at the Michael Blood auction, or following it on the
live feed, I want to correct a false statement made by Anne Black
about the NWA Saharan Desert meteorite map that was sold at the
auction.

In a move that was very petty, unprofessional and without class, Anne
Black said that the map had errors on it, in front of the entire room
of bidders.  Then she said that the placement of Libyan Desert Glass
on the map is wrong.  First of all, if that was true (it is not) that
would be one error, not error(s) plural.  Second of all, if she had
actually looked at the map closely, she would have seen that the area
labelled on the map for LDG is correct and it straddles the border of
Egypt and Libya in an area well-known for LDG finds.  This map was
looked over by a respected meteorite (and LDG) person who said the map
showed correct placement for all of the labelled points on the map.
This person has been on expeditions to find LDG and knows what he is
talking about.  And, I have studied the subject and read scores of
books on the subject and meteorites in general.  I didn't just throw
this map together and have the artist create it without fact-checking
the places on the map.

This statement about errors on the map was a cheap shot at me because
she does not like me.  And that is a very petty thing to do.

Anne -

Anne, you showed your true colors tonight.  But I am sure you will sit
back and act innocent and offended - that is fine and you might have
some people fooled, but I see your true face, and it is nothing like
the image you try to portray.

The next time you badmouth one of my items, make sure you have your
facts straight.

Yes, I am mad.  That giclee cost almost $100 to print alone and
shipping to Captain Blood was another $20.  Because you do have a lot
of people fooled, people tend to take your word as authoritative, and
I am sure your badmouthing of my item cooled the bidding.

Now, I will sit back and await the expected barrage of abuse from your
sycophants.  They might be fooled, but many others and myself are not.

I get asked a lot of questions by people asking where to find certain
meteorites that I do not have in stock (such as some rare falls) and
you can bet I will steer them in the opposite direction of your
website.  You see, I can be petty also when it is deserved.

I don't expect you to apologize or acknowledge your error, because I
am beneath you and you wouldn't dare admit that someone like me is
right and you are wrong.  So I guess I will just have to settle for
the satisfaction of calling you out in front of the List.

And one last thing, for the life of me, I cannot understand why
Michael Blood did not take map out of the mailing tube and show it to
the bidders.  How can someone bid on something they cannot see
first-hand and they only have a small low-res printed photo to see it.
 I was very disappointed at this.  The artist who made the map is a
successful professional artist who has done numerous gallery shows,
including a show at the world famous Dali Museum.  This is a limited
edition giclee, signed and numbered by the artist.  And it's a
stunning piece of functional art.  I have sold over 30 of these prints
in different sizes and every buyer has been very happy with it.  For
it to sell for a pittance is an insult to me and the artist.

Well, congratulations to whoever won it, because they got a real steal
on an ACCURATE map.

And for the inevitable calls for me to apologize for this post - stuff
it.  I am not apologizing for stating the truth.

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[meteorite-list] Excellent work Ruben, Thank You

2011-02-05 Thread Pat Brown

Hello to Ruben and the List, 

Thank you for the auction live webcast. It was very entertaining. 

Pat 
  
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[meteorite-list] Ruben, thanks for putting the live stream together. Can we have live auction bidding next year?

2011-02-05 Thread Brian Cox

Hi Ruben,

I want to thank you for working so hard on putting the live Blood auction 
together. It was great and made me feel like I was there in the room. It 
would be great if there was a way to work out live online bidding like they 
do at Heritage Auction house and some of the others. Sound and video were 
great and very entertaining. You did great work.


Thanks,

Brian Cox
IMCA# 6387 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Excellent work Ruben, Thank You

2011-02-05 Thread Michael Gilmer
Agreed - great work Ruben and thanks for doing this.  It was fun to
watch and very illuminating as well.  I think at least one person in
attendance forgot that this was being broadcast live on the web.

Best regards,

MikeG


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 Hello to Ruben and the List,

 Thank you for the auction live webcast. It was very entertaining.

 Pat
   
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[meteorite-list] Thank you Michael Blood for a great auction and I thank Ruben also. Can we have a LIVE auction next year?

2011-02-05 Thread Brian Cox

Hi Michael,

I want to thank you for a great auction and I'm very happy you worked with 
Ruben on this. It was great and made me feel like I was there in the room. 
It would be great if there was a way to work out live online bidding like 
they do at Heritage Auction house and some of the other auction houses.

Thanks,

Brian Cox
IMCA# 6387 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Excellent work Ruben, Thank You

2011-02-05 Thread Ed Deckert


Indeed!  A FANTASTIC job!  Thank you!

Ed

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meteoritem...@yahoo.com

Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 12:28 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Excellent work Ruben, Thank You




Hello to Ruben and the List,

Thank you for the auction live webcast. It was very entertaining.

Pat

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Re: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

2011-02-05 Thread Jeff Kuyken
I would like to say a huge thank you to Ruben and those who helped him! It 
was fantastic to be given a great view of the auction throughout the night! 
Awesome work!


Cheers,

Jeff


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To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 1:34 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming



HI

We are now live but having internet troubleskeep your fingers crossed!

go here to see/hear and chat!
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/livevideofeed.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you Michael Blood for a great auction and I thank Ruben also. Can we have a LIVE auction next year?

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Spratt

Is there a list of who won what?

Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] LIVE FEED

2011-02-05 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Jeff Kuyken kindly wrote:

I would like to say a huge thank you to Ruben and those who
 helped him!  It was fantastic to be given a great view of the
 auction throughout the night!


Hello Jeff and List,

I absolutely agree! Both the Birthday Bash and the Auction were a real blast!
That, together with Arizona Keith's and Gary Fujihara's photos, gave it a whole
new dimension as John Blennert already stated. What a pity we couldn't watch
the Gold Basin presentation as well.

Anyway, a big Thank You! to Ruben and all those who helped to make this 
possible!

Bernd (in Germany)


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