[meteorite-list] HOLBROOK FINDS

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Gessler
Really nice finds, Holbrook was my first ever find too. Salute to Regine and 
Ruben. I was thinking those would be just about the perfect size to be hit 
in the head with if my fantasy was to be hit by an incoming meteorite. 
(which it is) Nothing bigger though. Those are just right. Count Deiro's 
would be lights out!


Anyway way to go guys..

Paul Gessler 


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[meteorite-list] American Meteorite Museum and Quiz

2011-03-24 Thread valparint
I took a trip to northern Arizona about a week ago and visited Meteor Crater. I 
stopped by the American Meteorite Museum and took a few pictures, which I 
posted here:

http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/pas520/

Then, it was off the Meteor Crater. They've made a lot of improvements since I 
was last there. It's a very nice facility.

Here's the quiz - sometime around 2003 a small plane crashed at the bottom of 
the crater but it is now gone. What happened to it?

Paul Swartz
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[meteorite-list] Very Interesting Photo- Tektite Related

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Groetz
List-
   Check out this ice hail photo. It really substantiates the theories
behind tektite formation.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/photo/category/photo-of-the-day

  Have a good day.

Mike
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[meteorite-list] I'm looking for a link about micrometeorites

2011-03-24 Thread Francesco Moser
Hello!
Sometime ago someone post a link about micrometeorites and
false-micrometeorites.
In that page there were a lot of pictures about micrometeorites and man-made
microsferules.
I remember tons of microscope pictures about a lot of different alloy
microsferules form various industrial process!

Someone could re-send me this link? 
I cannot find it in my bookmarks :(

Thanks a lot !!!



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Re: [meteorite-list] I'm looking for a link about micrometeorites

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Francesco,

Here is a link with some SEM photos of the various micrometeorites.
I'm not sure if this is the link you are referring to.  :)

http://remf.dartmouth.edu/micrometeorites/

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 Hello!
 Sometime ago someone post a link about micrometeorites and
 false-micrometeorites.
 In that page there were a lot of pictures about micrometeorites and man-made
 microsferules.
 I remember tons of microscope pictures about a lot of different alloy
 microsferules form various industrial process!

 Someone could re-send me this link?
 I cannot find it in my bookmarks :(

 Thanks a lot !!!



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Re: [meteorite-list] Sedimentary Martian Meteorites ( a little gorgeous Ad).

2011-03-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Good Morning Carl,

I think, I'm very on topic.

I've got the impression that you speculate, that there must be sedimentary 
Martian meteorites laying all around
and that the only obstacle, that they are not recognized as such, would be that 
the researchers refuse to measure stones, which don't show properties, they 
know from known meteorites. Respectively that they would do so only, if they 
would get money for that.
And that you suggest, that we have therefore to change something in the 
existing system, which until now had brought the stones from the soil they're 
slumbering on into the Meteoritical Bulletin.

So I was giving you a hint, that the system was so far able to recognize 
meteorites as meteorites, also if they oppugn our all traditional viewing 
habits.
Decisive for a meteorite being recognized as a meteorite is not only that, what 
you feel to be the only obstacle, that a lab would refuse to analyze a stone,
at least as decisive is, that someone has the idea, to pick up such a stone, 
although it is not looking like meteorite in the field, because he thinks, 
despite that, it could be a meteorite.
And be aware, that no one in the field has a saw, a microscope, a microprobe at 
hand, neither with Blaine's magic machine you'll be able to identify such a 
stone being from Mars.
And second, after the stone is picked up, it has to survive the long chain of 
going through many hands, before it ends in the lab, without that any hand will 
throw it in the dustbin.

That this obviously works, therefore I gave you 3 examples,

Where about you say:

They actually do look like meteorites to me and you both.

For you maybe, for me they don't look at all like meteorites and I dare to 
guess, that 99.9% of the experts,
no matter whether scientist or private expert, wouldn't have picked up these 
stones in the field.

And the second thing is, one has to speculate about odds and probabilities, how 
present such sedimentary Martians are on Earth - especially if one like you 
wants to have hand-in changes in the system of meteoritics, that such stones 
could be recognized at all.

And there you have to juggle with the numbers we have.

Absolutely unsuspicious and unbiased, and there you will agree, are the 
observed falls.
1200 we have in history. No sedimentary stone was among them. But anyhow 4 
Martians.
Hence 0.3%.

Well. Currently the Bulletins have 52,524 entries/numbers of meteoritic finds.
98 entries are Martians.  0.2%  

That's the score list of 196 years.

Obviously it is in general devilishly difficult to find a Martian at all.
(as meteorites in general are not easy to locate).

Perhaps a little visualization...

Herb, Stefan...forgive me, the Austrians can be sometimes somewhat 
idiosyncratic people.

The athlete in the picture applies for the title: Austrian Giant.
In the right and in the left hand, he carries a little suitcase made of 
concrete.
Each of the suitcases weighs 130 kg. Concrete has a lower density than Martian 
rocks.
All Martian meteorites we have identified currently on Earth during the last 
200 years,
have a combined weight of 100kg.
So I hope that little comparison works.

Martians all in all so far we have a little suitcase full so far on Earth.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32845189@N06/4721533075/

(Keep that in mind, if you get one offered or if you see some on ebay and if a 
couple of 100 bucks a gram seem to you to be a horrendous price. Or make a 
game, to keep the kids on the backseat calm: Find something, which is as rare 
as Martian meteorites).

Let's go further.
Now these 98 entries represent 56 fall events, 56 different meteorites.

Consider furthermore, that science found out, that these 56 meteorites weren't 
hurled into space by 56 different impact events on Mars, but that the number 
shrinks even more, because you can subsume them to launch-pairings.

Now these are igneous Martian rocks, which - there you see no problem - are 
recognized and identified without problem in the course all meteorites go.

Now you can speculate - are sediments in the upper Martian crust prevalent or 
igneous rock?
There I'm no expert - (I believe to remember, that sediments were observed on 
Mars not so often..).

So all in all. We have a few spot test from the Red Planet in form of a handful 
Martian meteorites here on Earth. Igneous Martians we can recognize, they are 
found and recognized, but a find of such a Martian belongs to the quite most 
extraordinary rare events, which one can imagine.

Now you have to ask yourself - the process of finding a stone is always the 
same. 

Even IF we would know, how a sedimentary Martian would look like, even IF a 
sedimentary Martian would have a wonderful black fusion crust, even IF 
sedimentary Martian meteorites would be nearly as frequent or abundant like 
igneous Martian meteorites,
then it would be still an extremely hard nut to crack to find once any!

And there you have to see, what that would mean for your dissatisfaction.
What 

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 24, 2011

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_24_2011.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk.

I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me
know when doppler gives us something good.

On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,

 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-texas-green.html

 This put rocks on the ground!

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[meteorite-list] Great Met Display photos on the EOM

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi List,

I don't know who Mr. Michael Hofmann is, but I really like his
meteorite displays.  I was browsing through the recently uploaded
photos on the EOM, and ran across them today.

I really like displaying whole stones on a natural sand desert-like
surface.  Now I am just waiting to see someone tackle the task of
making a natural display that mimics a desert-pavement surface.

I cannot find a way to link to the individual photos, but if you go to
the EOM site and click on Latest Member Images and scroll down past
Mirko's beautiful specimens, you'll see the thumbnails for Mr.
Hofmann's displays.

Nice work Michael.  :)

Best regards,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Chris Peterson
From what I've seen, this was not a major fireball. It appears to be high 
and bright, with a short ground path. Its light curve doesn't look much like 
a major fragmenter, either. If some multiple station analysis shows up, I 
could change my opinion. But based on the single station evidence, this does 
not strike me as a likely candidate to produce meteorites.


Chris

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO,NE 
Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011




Dear List,

We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation:

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-texas-green.html

This put rocks on the ground!

Dirk Ross...Tokyo


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[meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Shawn Alan
Ruben and Listers,

As of right now the data at NCDC isnt available it to soon but but this 
afternoon or sooner they should have radar info for the time the meteor was 
sighted. :)

Shawn Alan 
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Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
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Thu Mar 24 11:06:43 EDT 2011 

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I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me 
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 Dear List, 

 

 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation: 

 

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-texas-green.html
  

 

 This put rocks on the ground! 

 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 24, 2011

2011-03-24 Thread Richard Kowalski
Another neat one Laurence.
Congrats

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[meteorite-list] MHC Magazine: UPDATE

2011-03-24 Thread valparint
Eric,

Thank you for the straight poop. I've been somewhat agitated that I haven't 
received what I've paid for but now that I know what's happening I will 
certainly hang in there with you. It's a great product.

Paul Swartz
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Re: [meteorite-list] American Meteorite Museum and Quiz

2011-03-24 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hi Paul.

From what I can tell the crash actually happened in 1964. Here is a report of 
the accident:

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=69872

I haven't noticed it on my visits, but supposedly part of the tail is still in 
the crater somewhere.

The actual NSTB report is much more dry and succinct:
http://www3.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=79450key=0

A MUCH more detailed and interesting account of the event can be found in Jim 
Tobin's Fragments, including pictures(!), in the September 2008 Meteorite 
Times

http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2008/september/Jims_Fragments.htm

I would assume that the majority of the airframe was either airlifted out, or 
packed out in pieces. Maybe Jim can tell us more about the final disposition.

Nice pics BTW.

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--- On Thu, 3/24/11, valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com wrote:

 From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] American Meteorite Museum and Quiz
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 5:02 AM
 I took a trip to northern Arizona
 about a week ago and visited Meteor Crater. I stopped by the
 American Meteorite Museum and took a few pictures, which I
 posted here:
 
 http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/pas520/
 
 Then, it was off the Meteor Crater. They've made a lot of
 improvements since I was last there. It's a very nice
 facility.
 
 Here's the quiz - sometime around 2003 a small plane
 crashed at the bottom of the crater but it is now gone. What
 happened to it?
 
 Paul Swartz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Japanese Tsunami relief effort auction is ending on Ebay . Sale Ad - proceeds to Japanese Red Cross

2011-03-24 Thread drtanuki
Sonny and List,  Thank you for your kindness!  I am sure that your helping will 
make a difference in several peoples lives in the disaster areas in Japan.  
Those people have been, and are, living in a hell. Please keep them in your 
thoughts and prayers.
 Best Always, Dirk...Tokyo


--- On Tue, 3/22/11, wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

 From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Japanese Tsunami relief effort auction is ending on 
 Ebay . Sale Ad - proceeds to Japanese Red Cross
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 10:19 PM
 Hi,
 
 I would like to remind everyone that my fundraiser on
 ebay  to benefit  Japan is ending today.  I
 have one Moapa Valley CM1 thin section and  one .7 gram
 piece up for grabs. All proceeds will be donated to the Red
 Cross of Japan to help with disaster relief efforts. Moapa
 Valley is one of only two CM1's  that  have been
 recovered outside of Antarctica. There are only 13 CM 1
 pieces recovered by Ansmet  in Antarctica with a total
 weight of 132.75 grams. Those  pieces will never be
 available to the private collector. This is a true
 opportunity to add a rare meteorite to your collection. Not
 to mention a chance to help the people of Japan who have
 gone through such a terrible disaster.
 
 Thanks,
 Sonny
 
 www.nevadameteorites.com
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130497937816#ht_500wt_1156
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130497940095#ht_500wt_1156
 
 
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[meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi All,

I don't see anything unusual in either the KFDR (Altus AFB, OK) or
the KTLX (Oklahoma City) radars. Here are the links to the data
if anyone else wants to try to find the bolide:

KFDR:
http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191242/

KTLX:
http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191346/

I'm checking the Dallas/Ft. Worth radar next... --Rob

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben
Garcia
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:07 AM
To: drtanuki
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Matson; Global Meteor
Observing Forum
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS,
CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk.

I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me
know when doppler gives us something good.

On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,

 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation:


http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-te
xas-green.html

 This put rocks on the ground!

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread drtanuki
Sighting reports and a visual of the sighting locations have been updated.  
Many witnesses!  Just need more good reports.  Dirk Ross...Tokyo


--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:

 From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
 To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing Forum 
 meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 4:53 AM
 Hi All,
 
 I don't see anything unusual in either the KFDR (Altus AFB,
 OK) or
 the KTLX (Oklahoma City) radars. Here are the links to the
 data
 if anyone else wants to try to find the bolide:
 
 KFDR:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191242/
 
 KTLX:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191346/
 
 I'm checking the Dallas/Ft. Worth radar next... --Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:07 AM
 To: drtanuki
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 Rob Matson; Global Meteor
 Observing Forum
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK,
 AR, MO, KS,
 CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
 
 Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk.
 
 I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and
 Marc? Let me
 know when doppler gives us something good.
 
 On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Dear List,
 
  We have a major green fireball event with
 fragmentation:
 
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-te
 xas-green.html
 
  This put rocks on the ground!
 
  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Hankey
Dirk,

Not even earth quakes, tsunamis or radioactive leaks can stop you from
breaking the latest meteor news -- impressive!

I have just published an update on the AMS site regarding this event.

http://tinyurl.com/6akxey9

The update includes a map of the plots which is linked to an
interactive visual fireball log viewer.

Best guess for potential landfall would be due west of Oklahoma City.

Of interest, there was at least one report of a delayed boom.

Keep on rockin.

Mike

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 Dear List,

 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-texas-green.html

 This put rocks on the ground!

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo


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[meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Rob and Listers,

 
Hi Rob I check those two radar locations and did a scan through the 
reflectivity radial ranges and saw nothing that would look like the meteors 
flight path from smoke/debris

I had also check Hastings, NE
 
The NOAA # is if you are using the toolkit is HAS002191110
 
I looked at the reflectivity radial ranges and I was unable to locate anything 
on the maps. I also heard people saw it in CO and UT. By chance was the 
direction from W to E or E to W I heard both, but it seems like more people saw 
it go from W to E. 
 
Another thing I would like to add is NASA's all sky fireball network had a 
video of a meteor that also co-insides with the time with green fire ball seen 
over NE, TX, AR, CO, AR.
 
If this video is also associated with the green fireball here is that data on 
that meteor and the video.
 

http://fireballs.ndc.nasa.gov/
 
 
 
Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
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[meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011Matson, Robert D. 
ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com 
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Hi All, 

I don't see anything unusual in either the KFDR (Altus AFB, OK) or 
the KTLX (Oklahoma City) radars. Here are the links to the data 
if anyone else wants to try to find the bolide: 

KFDR: 
http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191242/ 

KTLX: 
http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191346/ 

I'm checking the Dallas/Ft. Worth radar next... --Rob 

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Garcia 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:07 AM 
To: drtanuki 
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; Rob Matson; Global Meteor 
Observing Forum 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS, 
CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011 

Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk. 

I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me 
know when doppler gives us something good. 

On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtanuki at yahoo.com wrote: 

 Dear List, 

 

 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation: 

 

 

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-te 
xas-green.html 

 

 This put rocks on the ground! 

 

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo 






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Re: [meteorite-list] MHC Magazine: UPDATE

2011-03-24 Thread Rich Jolly
Eric,

I just reviewed the past issues and was thoroughly impressed with the
quality - wonderful work!   And, I voted with my wallet as well by
subscribing (knowing full well the issues).   Perhaps some other list
members haven't subscribed yet and wish to add their vote!   Hang in there!

Cheers.  Rich

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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:42 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] MHC Magazine: UPDATE

All subscribers have already been notified. I do not have to post this 
to the list, but this update is simply a courtesy to those here on-list 
who'd like to know what's going on. I know this is on many minds. Thanks 
for your patience, comments, questions and support. 
http://www.mhcmagazine.com/blog/mhc-magazine/

Regards,
Eric
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[meteorite-list] possible dioginite freebie part-slices

2011-03-24 Thread steve arnold
Good evening list.I hope all are fine out there.Hey possible good news on a 
possible new fall in the south regions of our country.I want to thank bob evans 
for cutting my possible dioginite.He did a great job.I have 5 small part-slices 
to givaway to any who chime in.Please remember to give me your address and also 
USA only on this.Postage is expensive and I have no job.But am pounding the 
streets very hard.Good eveving to all.
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] MHC Magazine: UPDATE

2011-03-24 Thread Meteorites USA
Hey Rich, AWESOME! Thanks for the vote of confidence, and the show of 
support. It's much appreciated.


Support from people like you make this magazine possible. Working hard 
on my end to make this work!


Regards,
Eric



On 3/24/2011 2:16 PM, Rich Jolly wrote:

Eric,

I just reviewed the past issues and was thoroughly impressed with the
quality - wonderful work!   And, I voted with my wallet as well by
subscribing (knowing full well the issues).   Perhaps some other list
members haven't subscribed yet and wish to add their vote!   Hang in there!

Cheers.  Rich

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USA
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Meteorite-list
Subject: [meteorite-list] MHC Magazine: UPDATE

All subscribers have already been notified. I do not have to post this
to the list, but this update is simply a courtesy to those here on-list
who'd like to know what's going on. I know this is on many minds. Thanks
for your patience, comments, questions and support.
http://www.mhcmagazine.com/blog/mhc-magazine/

Regards,
Eric
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[meteorite-list] NASA's Stardust: Good to the Last Drop

2011-03-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-094  

NASA's Stardust: Good to the Last Drop
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
March 23, 2011

On Thursday, March 24 at about 4 p.m. PDT (7 p.m. EDT), NASA's Stardust
spacecraft will perform a final burn with its main engines.

At first glance, the burn is something of an insignificant event. After
all, the venerable spacecraft has executed 40 major flight path
maneuvers since its 1999 launch, and between these main engines and the
reaction control system, its rocket motors have collectively fired more
than 2 million times. But the March 24 burn will be different from all
others. This burn will effectively end the life of NASA's most traveled
comet hunter.

We call it a 'burn to depletion,' and that is pretty much what we're
doing - firing our rockets until there is nothing left in the tank,
said Stardust-NExT project manager Tim Larson of NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. It's a unique way for an interplanetary
spacecraft to go out. Essentially, Stardust will be providing us useful
information to the very end.

Burn to depletion will answer the question about how much fuel Stardust
had left in its tank.

We'll take those data and compare them to what our estimates told us
was left, said Allan Cheuvront, Lockheed Martin Space Systems program
manager for Stardust-NExT. That will give us a better idea how valid
our fuel consumption models are and make our predictions even more
accurate for future missions.

Fuel consumption models are necessary because no one has invented an
entirely reliable fuel gauge for spacecraft. Until that day arrives,
mission planners can approximate fuel usage by looking at the history of
the vehicle's flight and how many times and for how long its rocket
motors have fired.

Stardust's burn to depletion is expected to impart valuable information,
because the spacecraft has essentially been running on borrowed time --
for some time. Launched on Feb. 7, 1999, Stardust had already flown past
an asteroid (Annefrank), flown past and collected particle samples from
a comet (Wild 2), and returned those particles to Earth in a sample
return capsule in January 2006 - and in so doing racked up 4.63 billion
kilometers (2.88 billion miles) on its odometer. NASA then re-tasked the
still-healthy spacecraft to perform a flyby of comet Tempel 1, a new,
low-cost mission that required another five years and 1.04 billion
kilometers (646 million miles). After all those milestones and all that
time logged on the spacecraft, the Stardust team knew the end was near.
They just didn't know exactly how close.

Prior to this final burn, Stardust will point its medium-gain antenna at
Earth - some 312 million kilometers (194 million miles) away. As there
is no tomorrow for Stardust, the spacecraft is expected to downlink
information on the burn as it happens. The command from the spacecraft
computer ordering the rockets to fire will be sent for 45 minutes, but
the burn is expected to last only between a couple of minutes to
somewhat above 10 minutes. It is estimated the burn could accelerate the
spacecraft anywhere from 2.5 to 35.2 meters per second (6 to 79 mph). 

What we think will happen is that when the fuel reaches a critically
low level, gaseous helium will enter the thruster chambers, said
Larson. The resulting thrust will be less than 10 percent of what was
expected. While Stardust will continue to command its rocket engines to
fire until the pre-planned firing time of 45 minutes has elapsed, the
burn is essentially over.

Twenty minutes after the engines run dry, the spacecraft's computer will
command its transmitters off. They actively shut off their radios to
preclude the remote chance that at some point down the road Stardust's
transmitter could turn on and broadcast on a frequency being used by
other operational spacecraft. Turning off the transmitter ensures that
there will be no unintended radio interference in the future.

Without fuel to power the spacecraft's attitude control system,
Stardust's solar panels will not remain pointed at the sun. When this
occurs, the spacecraft's batteries are expected to drain of power and
deplete within hours.

When we take into account all the possibilities for how long the burn
could be and then the possible post-burn trajectories, we project that
over the next 100 years, Stardust will not get any closer than 1.7
million miles of Earth's orbit, or within 13 million miles of Mars
orbit, said Larson. That is far enough from protected targets to meet
all of NASA's Planetary Protection directives. 

Some planetary spacecraft, like the Galileo mission to Jupiter, are
intentionally sent into the planet's atmosphere to make sure it is
destroyed in a controlled way. Others have their transmitters shut off
or just fade away, said Larson. I think this is a fitting end for
Stardust. It's going down swinging.

Stardust-NExT is a low-cost mission to expand the investigation of comet
Tempel 1 initiated by 

[meteorite-list] 'Lost' Miller Experiment Gives Pungent Clue to Origin of Life

2011-03-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2011/lost_exp.html

Lost Miller Experiment Gives Pungent Clue to Origin of Life
March 23, 2011

Goddard Release No. 11-23

Nancy Neal-Jones / Bill Steigerwald
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
301-286-0039 / 5017
nancy.n.jo...@nasa.gov 
william.a.steigerw...@nasa.gov 
 
GREENBELT, Md. -- The origin of life may have been smelly, according to
a recent, NASA-funded analysis of residue from a variant of classic
experiments performed by Dr. Stanley Miller in the 1950s.

One of the primary differences between this experiment and others
Miller performed is the use of hydrogen sulfide (H2S) gas to help
simulate the primordial atmosphere, said Eric Parker of the Georgia
Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Ga. Hydrogen sulfide gas is commonly
known as the awful smell released by rotten eggs. Parker is lead author
of a paper on this research appearing the week of March 21 in the
on-line Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences.

Much to our surprise, the yield of amino acids from Miller's hydrogen
sulfide experiment is a lot richer than that from any other experiment
he had ever conducted, said Professor Jeffrey Bada of the Scripps
Institution of Oceanography, University of California at San Diego, who
was a graduate student of Miller's and is the corresponding author on
the paper.

From 1953 to 1954, Stanley Miller, then a graduate student at the
University of Chicago, performed a series of experiments with colleague
Harold Urey using a system of closed flasks containing water and a
mixture of simple gases. At the time the gases used in the experiment
(hydrogen, methane, and ammonia) were thought to be common in Earth's
ancient atmosphere.

The gas was zapped with an electric spark. After running the experiment
for a few days, the water turned brown. When Miller analyzed the water,
he found it contained amino acids, which are the building blocks of
proteins -- life's toolkit -- used in everything from structures like
hair and nails to processes that speed up, facilitate, and regulate
chemical reactions. The spark provided energy for the gas molecules to
recombine into compounds such as hydrogen cyanide, aldehydes, and
ketones, which rained out into the water. There these compounds further
reacted in the presence of ammonia to produce amino acids.

Miller's experiment showed how simple molecules could be assembled into
the more complex molecules necessary for life by natural processes, like
lightning in Earth's ancient atmosphere.

After Miller's death in 2007, Bada discovered vials containing samples
from the original experiments. In 2008, Bada and his team, which
consisted of NASA and university researchers, analyzed these samples
with modern equipment to see if they could discover chemicals that could
not be detected with the techniques of the 1950s. The samples were
produced by a variant of Miller's classic design that introduced a jet
of steam to simulate conditions in the cloud from an erupting volcano.
In October 2008, the team reported
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/volcanic_life_origin.html
that they discovered 22 amino acids in the sample, 10 of which had never
been found in any other experiment like this.

In the new research, the team analyzed samples from another variant of
the experiment performed in 1958 in which Miller used carbon dioxide and
hydrogen sulfide gas in the mixture. It was lost for decades because,
for unknown reasons, Miller never reported his analysis of the results.
Stanley mentioned to several of us that he hated working with hydrogen
sulfide because it smelled so bad and tended to make him sick, says
Bada. Given that some of the compounds he made in the experiment smell
pretty bad, this experiment may be the basis for his reluctance to deal
with H2S in experiments.

The team discovered that the experiment created amino acids containing
sulfur, the first such synthesis from a simulated prebiotic environment,
according to Parker, and the one that produced them in the greatest
diversity and highest abundance.

The sulfur-containing amino acids we found include significant
biological ones like methionine, the product of the 'start codon' in the
genetic code, which tells a cell's machinery to begin translating the
design for a protein, said Dr. H. James Cleaves of the Carnegie
Institution of Washington, a co-author who performed some of the
analyses in collaboration with scientists in the Analytical Astrobiology
Laboratory at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

The results of this study may provide clues about the roles that
primordial volcanic plumes may have played in the formation of some of
Earth's first organic compounds, adds Parker. Volcanoes are a natural
source of atmospheric H2S. Lightning events are often observed to
coincide with volcanic eruptions. The use of H2S in this experiment,
along with the other gases Miller used, combined with the 

[meteorite-list] Phoenix Observes Ice and Fog Near Surface on Mars

2011-03-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-03/agu-hia031711.php

Public release date: 17-Mar-2011

Contact: Kathleen O'Neil
kon...@agu.org 
202-777-7524
American Geophysical Union 


AGU journal highlights -- March 17, 2011

[snip]

2. Martian weather report: ice and fog near surface

A pair of cameras mounted on the back of the Phoenix Mars Lander
captured how laser light, emitted by the Lander's light detection and
ranging (lidar) system, was scattered by water ice in the red planet's
thin atmosphere. Moores et al. used the technique over four nights in
2008 to give the first detailed profile of the ice water content in the
Martian near-surface atmosphere.

The authors find that the icy fog was thickest around 50 meters (164
feet) above the surface, with maximum concentration of 1.7 milligrams
per cubic meter (0.02 ounces per cubic foot). They also find that
the fog was not uniform but tended to decrease in thickness toward the
surface. As the Martian night wears on, the surface of the planet cools
below the frost point and water vapor in the atmosphere gets deposited
on the ground. As the atmosphere is mixed by turbulence, more water is
brought to lower altitudes, adding to the growing frost layer.

Ice crystals also form in the air and precipitate to the ground from
successively higher altitudes. The researchers estimate that by the time
the Sun started to rise in the morning, 2.5 micrograms (0.00088
ounces) of snow and frost would have coated the surface of Mars in the
northerly region around the Phoenix Lander.

Source:
/Geophysical Research Letters,/ doi:10.1029/2010GL046315, 2011
http://dx.doi.org/10.1029/2010GL046315

Title: Observations of near-surface fog at the Phoenix Mars landing site

Authors: John E. Moores, Léonce Komguem and James A. Whiteway: Centre
for Research in Earth and Space Science, York University, Toronto,
Ontario, Canada;

Mark T. Lemmon: Atmospheric Sciences Department Texas AM University,
College Station, Texas, USA;

Cameron Dickinson: MacDonald Dettwiler and Associates Space Missions,
Brampton, Ontario, Canada;

Frank Daerden: Division of Planetary Aeronomy, Belgian Institute for
Space Aeronomy, Brussels, Belgium.

[snip]

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Re: [meteorite-list] possible dioginite freebie part-slices

2011-03-24 Thread al mitt

Steve and all,

You mention a person in your post, known to have misrepresented specimens in 
the past. If your still dealing with this person then you (and others) are 
enabling him to continue mess up collections.


--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites


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From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:43 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] possible dioginite freebie part-slices


Good evening list.I hope all are fine out there.Hey possible good news on a
possible new fall in the south regions of our country.I want to thank bob 
evans
for cutting my possible dioginite.He did a great job.I have 5 small 
part-slices
to givaway to any who chime in.Please remember to give me your address and 
also

USA only on this.Postage is expensive and I have no job.But am pounding the
streets very hard.Good eveving to all.
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!
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[meteorite-list] Oklahoma Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi All,

I believe it DOES show up on the DFW radar in one scan, as well as
the Vance AFB radar in 3 separate scans. (Did not find it in the
Oklahoma City or Altus AFB radars.) The location is in perfect
agreement with the terminus as it appears in the Oklahoma City
All-Sky camera. (Took me a while to correctly orient myself with
that image; to save others some time, the brightest star in the
scene is Sirius. Other bright stars visible include Betelgeuse,
Rigel, Aldebaran and Capella.) Bolide flight direction was
WNW to ESE, as triangulated from the Oklahoma City Sentinel
camera, and Thomas Ashcraft's Albuquerque camera. (I'm still
trying to make sense of the Hawley, TX, camera -- it doesn't
appear to be oriented with north exactly at the bottom.)

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: drtanuki [mailto:drtan...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:02 PM
To: Matson, Robert D.
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

Sighting reports and a visual of the sighting locations have been
updated.  Many witnesses!  Just need more good reports.  Dirk
Ross...Tokyo


--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:

 From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
 To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com, drtanuki 
 drtan...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing 
 Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 4:53 AM
 Hi All,
 
 I don't see anything unusual in either the KFDR (Altus AFB,
 OK) or
 the KTLX (Oklahoma City) radars. Here are the links to the data if 
 anyone else wants to try to find the bolide:
 
 KFDR:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191242/
 
 KTLX:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191346/
 
 I'm checking the Dallas/Ft. Worth radar next... --Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:07 AM
 To: drtanuki
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 Rob Matson; Global Meteor
 Observing Forum
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, 
 KS, CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
 
 Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk.
 
 I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me 
 know when doppler gives us something good.
 
 On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Dear List,
 
  We have a major green fireball event with
 fragmentation:
 
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-
 te
 xas-green.html
 
  This put rocks on the ground!
 
  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Oklahoma Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread GeoZay
...Bolide flight direction was
WNW to  ESE, as triangulated from the Oklahoma City Sentinel
camera, and Thomas  Ashcraft's Albuquerque camera. (I'm still
trying to make sense of the Hawley,  TX, camera -- it doesn't
appear to be oriented with north exactly at the  bottom.)

There's a camera in Hawley, Texas? I can't believe  it...That is the town I 
went to high school at...When I was there(1962-64), the  population was 
estimated to be 500. Don't know what it is now...probably not  much of a 
change. Thrilled to hear the old town's name come up again. 
George  Zay  

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[meteorite-list] possible dioginite freebies

2011-03-24 Thread steve arnold
Hi again list.All 5 freebies are spoken for.I have 5 larger slices all with 
crust, (49.6), ( 42.8), (32.2),(19.8) and (17.6) grams that all have fabulous 
black crust.I will put on ebay.The main mass of this stone is now a endcut with 
beautiful ryglamypts and weighs 152 grams.Thanks again and I'll get them out 
this weekend.
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] TX/OK Fireball ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011

2011-03-24 Thread meteoriteguy.com
If it was heading east you might check little rock as well
Michael Farmer

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On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com 
wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I don't see anything unusual in either the KFDR (Altus AFB, OK) or
 the KTLX (Oklahoma City) radars. Here are the links to the data
 if anyone else wants to try to find the bolide:
 
 KFDR:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191242/
 
 KTLX:
 http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002191346/
 
 I'm checking the Dallas/Ft. Worth radar next... --Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:07 AM
 To: drtanuki
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Matson; Global Meteor
 Observing Forum
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breaking News - Major TX, OK, AR, MO, KS,
 CO, NE Green Fireball Meteor ~9:21CDT 23MAR2011
 
 Thanks so much for the service you provide Dirk.
 
 I am ready to roll is there a specific area yet, Rob and Marc? Let me
 know when doppler gives us something good.
 
 On 3/24/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 We have a major green fireball event with fragmentation:
 
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-major-te
 xas-green.html
 
 This put rocks on the ground!
 
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived

2011-03-24 Thread Richard Kowalski
The February 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine just arrived in my mailbox. Looks 
like an interesting issue.

I get the nagging feeling everyone else got theirs many weeks ago though.

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived

2011-03-24 Thread meteoritefinder
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the post. I know what you mean, as my copy is yet to arrive. Your
news gives me hope that mine will show up any day now!
Best wishes,
Robert Woolard 

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On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The February 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine just arrived in my mailbox. 
 Looks like an interesting issue.
 
 I get the nagging feeling everyone else got theirs many weeks ago though.
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived

2011-03-24 Thread David Pensenstadler
I received my copy yesterday.

Dave

--- On Thu, 3/24/11, meteoritefin...@yahoo.com meteoritefin...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 From: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived
 To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:36 PM
 Hi Richard,
 Thanks for the post. I know what you mean, as my copy is
 yet to arrive. Your    news gives me hope that
 mine will show up any day now!
 Best wishes,
 Robert Woolard 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  The February 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine just
 arrived in my mailbox. Looks like an interesting issue.
  
  I get the nagging feeling everyone else got theirs
 many weeks ago though.
  
  --
  Richard Kowalski
  Full Moon Photography
  IMCA #1081
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived

2011-03-24 Thread Richard Kowalski
Thanks Dave.

For everyone's information I have received a number of private messages saying 
that various people around the country have gotten theirs today or within the 
past day or two.

Guess I was mistaken about hearing some had received them weeks ago. Apologies 
for any confusion I may have caused.

Cheers

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Thu, 3/24/11, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of Meteorite just arrived
 To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com, meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 6:53 PM
 I received my copy yesterday.
 
 Dave
 
 --- On Thu, 3/24/11, meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
 meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] February issue of
 Meteorite just arrived
  To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
  Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:36 PM
  Hi Richard,
  Thanks for the post. I know what you mean, as my copy
 is
  yet to arrive. Your    news gives me hope that
  mine will show up any day now!
  Best wishes,
  Robert Woolard 
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   The February 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine
 just
  arrived in my mailbox. Looks like an interesting
 issue.
   
   I get the nagging feeling everyone else got
 theirs
  many weeks ago though.
   
   --
   Richard Kowalski
   Full Moon Photography
   IMCA #1081
   
   
   
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[meteorite-list] Meteor Crater Plane Crash

2011-03-24 Thread James Tobin

Dear List,
I just reread the article from 2008 in Meteorite Times and I don't have a 
lot of additional information to add. The actually crash information from 
the government reports is in the previous article from 2003 I think it was.


But, as to what happened to the rest of the plane. Some was indeed removed 
from the crater and salvaged, but most of the remains were put down the 
shafts in the crater center which are fenced off now. Just the couple pieces 
a few feet long are all that remain. They can be found along the western 
edge of the crater near the bottom of the talus. As I mentioned in the 
article you can see them in binoculars or even in a camera with telephoto 
lens from the visitor center deck. And at the right time of the morning the 
sunlight coming over the edge of the crater rim will gleam off the fragments 
for a while. Makes a great photo when the bright shiny sparkle shows well.


Best regards, Jim


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