[meteorite-list] Test

2011-03-29 Thread Count Deiro
Test.

Count Deiro
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[meteorite-list] More historic falls

2011-03-29 Thread Shawn Alan
Mark,

Liking the website, I always enjoy the histories and stories that historic 
meteorites have to offer to the meteorite collection community. These historic 
falls help mold and guide meteorites collecting and science the way it is 
today. Enjoy to see more from this website and other historic meteorite 
website. Long live history.

Shaw Alan
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[meteorite-list] More historic falls
Mark's Meteorites mark at meteorites.cc 
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Evening all, 

I've started puling some pages together about the stories of some of our 
historic falls, including photos and documentary texts. It only has 20 or so 
entries at the moment, I'll add as I go along. 

Lots of photos! 

http://historicfalls.com/ 

Mark 





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[meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread wahlperry

Hi List,

It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few 
months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent 
Oklahoma event. I was wondering if the absence of a sonic boom has 
anything to do with it.
Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a major meteorite 
producing event? Could there still be a few meteorites on the ground 
with no sonic boom? With Buzzard Coulee, Mifflin, Ash Creek these 
events all produced meteorites and sonic booms were heard by the 
locals. Does anyone know if there were sonic booms associated with the 
Park Forest and Whetstone events?


Thanks,
Sonny


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Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what exactly are th...

2011-03-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
The actual term commonly found in the scientific literature is potted
butt.  It refers to a small specimen embedded in some kind of supporting
medium, usually epoxy, acrylic, or the like, prior to sample processing.
These samples then may be sliced for thin section preparation or other
purposes, or, for tiny samples, just ground down to expose the sample
surface.  If one wishes to do microscopic examination of the sample
remaining in a potted butt, the surface (sample plus supporting medium) is
commonly polished.  This is what Cascadia is calling a polished butt.

Jeff

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 exactly are th...
 
 My guess would be that it's a polished endcut.
 
 Jim K
 
 
 In a message dated 3/28/2011 3:54:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
 meteoritem...@gmail.com writes:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I have seen several  references to polished butts in the Met
 Bulletin.  For example, from  this recent entry (NWA 6580) approved
 yesterday -
 
 Type specimens  available at Cascadia include 1 piece originally 20.0
 g, from which one  polished thin section and one polished butt were
 made. Thompson holds the  main mass.
 
 I did the usual Google Search (polished butt) to find out  what this
 was, and you don't want to know what the results of that search  were.
 Let's just say, that is has nothing to do with meteorites or  thin
 sections.
 
 So I have to ask the List - what is a polished  butt?
 
 Best regards,
 
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 29, 2011

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_29_2011.html

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[meteorite-list] Test

2011-03-29 Thread monv6

Test: Delete




Regards

André Bufé

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[meteorite-list] Test2

2011-03-29 Thread André Bufé

Test 2: Delete please


Regards

André Bufé 


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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day March 29, 2011

2011-03-29 Thread jim_brady611
Wow ,what a beautiful Sikhotay Aleen--stunning exterior and gorgeous 
shape.
Thanks for sharing Michael and Philippe

Jim

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Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what exactly are th...

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Hupe
One only needs to watch an episode of Beavis and Butthead to appreciate 
the use of 'butt' or 'Butte'!! Light humor at its best! :/


Best Regards,
Greg


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-Original Message- 
From: Count Deiro

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:20 PM
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Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what 
exactly are th...


I see no connontation of toilet humour, or scatological inference in the use 
of the word butt. This word has been in use for centuries in the Anglo 
Saxon tongue and dialects... see...(noun)Rifle Butt...the end of the 
shoulder stock of firearm. The (noun)Butt End...the end of lengths of rope, 
lumber and metal... and the phrase and word...(verb)Abutting and 
(noun)Abutment.


A useful, descriptive, word that should be used with impunity. And I would 
see its appropriate use to described the remaining piece of a meteorite that 
has been reduced in size to a fraction of it's mass by cutting.


Regards...and no charge,

Count Deiro
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exactly are th...


Being an x-smoker, I conjured up visions of cigarette butts. Couldn't 
imagine

why anyone would polish one.

Anita





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Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:35:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what 
exactly

are th...

Hi List,

I agree, the word core is much better than polished butt.  :)

Thanks for the explanation.  I had a hunch that it was related to
thin-sections, but Google wouldn't give me anything useful or
non-offensive.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 3/28/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote:

No toilet humor here.
It is a chunk of meteorite encased in epoxy, polished, and from which
thin-sections are cut.
I prefer to call them cores.
Less possibility of misunderstanding.

Anne M. Black
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In a message dated 3/28/2011 2:59:26 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
jimsk...@aol.com writes:
My guess would be that it's a polished endcut.

Jim K


In a message dated 3/28/2011 3:54:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
meteoritem...@gmail.com writes:
Hi Folks,

I have seen several  references to polished butts in the Met
Bulletin.  For example, from  this recent entry (NWA 6580) approved
yesterday -

Type specimens  available at Cascadia include 1 piece originally 20.0
g, from which one  polished thin section and one polished butt were
made. Thompson holds the  main mass.

I did the usual Google Search (polished butt) to find out  what this
was, and you don't want to know what the results of that search  were.
Let's just say, that is has nothing to do with meteorites or  thin
sections.

So I have to ask the List - what is a polished  butt?

Best regards,

MikeG





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[meteorite-list] Lunar and Mars

2011-03-29 Thread Dave Myers
Good after noon Everyone!

Is there any Hardness data for each of the different Lunar and Mars meteorites 
and even for all the different typs of achondrites,

HED,Eucrites, Aubrites ect.


Thanks for any info.

Dave


  
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[meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started
wondering. What is the smallest complete meteorite?

Here's mine
http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurrent=met006.jpg

This one has got to be in the running...

This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

-- 
Rock On!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Ruben and List,

That is an awesome little Holbrook.  I have a Chergach pea that is
only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea.

I'm not sure if a spheroid counts as a meteorite, but I have a vial
full of CD spheroids and some of them are much smaller than a poppy
seed.

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG

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On 3/29/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started
 wondering. What is the smallest complete meteorite?

 Here's mine
 http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurrent=met006.jpg

 This one has got to be in the running...

 This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
 don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

 --
 Rock On!

 Ruben Garcia

 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread MEM
I believe there was a .3 gram Canadian find on a snow bank.  It was only 
noticed 
by virtue of  the contrast and if I recall the finder was a 
technician/scientist 
in the astronomy/space program field(???) walking out of his work to go home.  
I 
don't know the name or where-abouts, I only recall reading the story.  This 
would so far as I know be the smallest find/fall single stone class ever 
documented.

Elton




- Original Message 
 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:58:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 
 Hi Ruben and List,
 
 That is an awesome little Holbrook.  I have a  Chergach pea that is
 only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea.
 
 I'm  not sure if a spheroid counts as a meteorite, but I have a vial
 full of CD  spheroids and some of them are much smaller than a poppy
 seed.
 
 Best  regards and happy huntings,
 
 MikeG
 
 -- 
 --
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 Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
 ---
 
 
 
 On  3/29/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all,
 
  After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I  started
  wondering. What is the smallest complete  meteorite?
 
  Here's mine
  
http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurrent=met006.jpg

 
   This one has got to be in the running...
 
  This tiny individual  plus two more (all about the same size) combined
  don't even weigh a  tenth of a gram on my scale.
 
  --
  Rock On!
 
   Ruben Garcia
 
  Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
  Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
  Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Spratt

Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31, 1965.
Two small fragments about one gram total.

Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.

Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite fall.

Chris Spratt
Victoria BC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Kashuba
List,

Five years ago Michel Franco  Fred Beroud ran a contest for smallest
oriented meteorite.  Irons and stones were judged separately.  They were
kind enough to leave the results posted.

- John


http://www.caillou-noir.com/Contestjuly2006.htm



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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Jim Wooddell
I think Larry Atkins holds that record???

Jim


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started
 wondering. What is the smallest complete meteorite?

 Here's mine
 http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurrent=met006.jpg

 This one has got to be in the running...

 This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
 don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

 --
 Rock On!

 Ruben Garcia

 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
Of course, there is a continuum of meteorite sizes down through
micrometeorites to dust, all of which have been collected on Earth.  The
smallest named meteorite found on Earth may be Yamato 8333, at 10 mg.  There
are perhaps a dozen more, all Antarctic, below 100 mg.

In Rubin and Grossman (2010), we assert that micrometeorites are meteorites,
and we set the lower size limit for micrometeorites at 10 micrometers.  Such
a particle, if chondritic, would weigh a few nanograms.  So I would
therefore assert that the smallest collected meteorite weighs ~1 ng.  

The word complete is the difficult part of this question.  I don't know
what it means.

Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-
 list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MEM
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: Michael Gilmer; Ruben Garcia
 Cc: Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 
 I believe there was a .3 gram Canadian find on a snow bank.  It was only
 noticed
 by virtue of  the contrast and if I recall the finder was a
 technician/scientist
 in the astronomy/space program field(???) walking out of his work to go
 home.  I
 don't know the name or where-abouts, I only recall reading the story.
 This
 would so far as I know be the smallest find/fall single stone class ever
 documented.
 
 Elton
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
  To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
  Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:58:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 
  Hi Ruben and List,
 
  That is an awesome little Holbrook.  I have a  Chergach pea that is
  only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea.
 
  I'm  not sure if a spheroid counts as a meteorite, but I have a vial
  full of CD  spheroids and some of them are much smaller than a poppy
  seed.
 
  Best  regards and happy huntings,
 
  MikeG
 
  --
  --
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  Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
  Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
  News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
  Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
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 meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
  --
 -
 
 
 
  On  3/29/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
  
   After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I  started
   wondering. What is the smallest complete  meteorite?
  
   Here's mine
  
 http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurr
 ent=met006.jpg
 
  
This one has got to be in the running...
  
   This tiny individual  plus two more (all about the same size)
 combined
   don't even weigh a  tenth of a gram on my scale.
  
   --
   Rock On!
  
Ruben Garcia
  
   Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
   Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
   Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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[meteorite-list] AD - Check It Out

2011-03-29 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

I have several thousand dollars of material ending at auction today.  All were 
started at just 99 cents with no reserve.  Many of the items are still at the 
opening bid price of just 99 cents.  This may be a great opportunity to pick up 
a planetary or very rare specimen at an unheard of low price.

Please take a look if you can find the time.


Link to all auctions:
http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html


Thank  you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


Best  Regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Catterton
I picked up the smallest complete (I consider complete to mean fully crusted) 
individual of Chergach I have ever seen.
Its fully crusted, oriented and has a roll over lip.
It weighs in at 0.14 grams.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5004-4.jpg

Hope everyone is doing well.

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote:

 From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 To: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:13 PM
 Of course, there is a continuum of
 meteorite sizes down through
 micrometeorites to dust, all of which have been collected
 on Earth.  The
 smallest named meteorite found on Earth may be Yamato 8333,
 at 10 mg.  There
 are perhaps a dozen more, all Antarctic, below 100 mg.
 
 In Rubin and Grossman (2010), we assert that
 micrometeorites are meteorites,
 and we set the lower size limit for micrometeorites at 10
 micrometers.  Such
 a particle, if chondritic, would weigh a few
 nanograms.  So I would
 therefore assert that the smallest collected meteorite
 weighs ~1 ng.  
 
 The word complete is the difficult part of this
 question.  I don't know
 what it means.
 
 Jeff
 
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-
  list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of MEM
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:22 PM
  To: Michael Gilmer; Ruben Garcia
  Cc: Meteorite List
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete
 Meteorite?
  
  I believe there was a .3 gram Canadian find on a snow
 bank.  It was only
  noticed
  by virtue of  the contrast and if I recall the
 finder was a
  technician/scientist
  in the astronomy/space program field(???) walking out
 of his work to go
  home.  I
  don't know the name or where-abouts, I only recall
 reading the story.
  This
  would so far as I know be the smallest find/fall
 single stone class ever
  documented.
  
  Elton
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
   From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
   To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
   Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
   Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:58:45 PM
   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete
 Meteorite?
  
   Hi Ruben and List,
  
   That is an awesome little Holbrook.  I have
 a  Chergach pea that is
   only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea.
  
   I'm  not sure if a spheroid counts as a
 meteorite, but I have a vial
   full of CD  spheroids and some of them are
 much smaller than a poppy
   seed.
  
   Best  regards and happy huntings,
  
   MikeG
  
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   On  3/29/11, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
     Hi all,
   
After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I
 found - I  started
wondering. What is the smallest
 complete  meteorite?
   
Here's mine
   
  http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurr
  ent=met006.jpg
  
   
     This one has got to be in the
 running...
   
This tiny individual  plus two more
 (all about the same size)
  combined
don't even weigh a  tenth of a gram on
 my scale.
   
--
Rock On!
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread meteoriteguy.com
I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th gram.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:

 Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31, 1965.
 Two small fragments about one gram total.
 
 Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
 Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.
 
 Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite fall.
 
 Chris Spratt
 Victoria BC
 (Via my iPhone)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi List,

My two smallest complete meteorites are Chergach peas.  One weighs
436mg (but has a chip in the crust) and the other is 787mg and is 100%
crusted.

I'd post photos, but both of camera batteries are dead, so I'll post
some photos of them later.  :)

Mike Farmer - those Bensours sound like BB's instead of peas.  :)

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG

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On 3/29/11, meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
 I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th gram.
 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:

 Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31, 1965.
 Two small fragments about one gram total.

 Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
 Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.

 Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite fall.

 Chris Spratt
 Victoria BC
 (Via my iPhone)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Witt
Sonny,

A good question. I can't speak to the Wheststone event, but with Park Forest 
there were sonic booms reported by many in the area.

Best,
Steve


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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

 From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 8:34 AM
 Hi List,
 
 It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in
 the past few months but no material being found on the
 ground, as in the recent Oklahoma event. I was wondering if
 the absence of a sonic boom has anything to do with it.
 Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a
 major meteorite producing event? Could there still be a few
 meteorites on the ground with no sonic boom? With Buzzard
 Coulee, Mifflin, Ash Creek these events all produced
 meteorites and sonic booms were heard by the locals. Does
 anyone know if there were sonic booms associated with the
 Park Forest and Whetstone events?
 
 Thanks,
 Sonny
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Sonny, Steve, and List,

Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by many in the area

Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and Nancy
Ryan - Tribune staff reporters) - March 27, 2003, 1:20 PM CST:

... Garza said he was in bed when he heard his
 dog barking and what sounded like *thunder*.

We all heard a *sound* about two minutes after. It was like a *sonic boom*.


Best wishes from the happy owner of five gorgeous Park Forest
meteorites, all of which were kindly given to me by Steve Witt
and are, of course, still in my collection where they will stay
for good! Steve, thank you once again for these beauties!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Catterton
I think it would be an awesome time for us all to post a picture or two of 
small sub gram complete fusion crusted stones we have in our collection.
Would be very neat to see some of what everyone has!

Here is another of my sub gram complete crusted stones.

Mifflin .90g
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Mifflin90g.jpg

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
 To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com
 Cc: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 4:14 PM
 Hi List,
 
 My two smallest complete meteorites are Chergach
 peas.  One weighs
 436mg (but has a chip in the crust) and the other is 787mg
 and is 100%
 crusted.
 
 I'd post photos, but both of camera batteries are dead, so
 I'll post
 some photos of them later.  :)
 
 Mike Farmer - those Bensours sound like BB's instead of
 peas.  :)
 
 Best regards and happy huntings,
 
 MikeG
 
 --
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 Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
 ---
 
 
 
 On 3/29/11, meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com
 wrote:
  I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th
 gram.
  Michael Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com
 wrote:
 
  Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31,
 1965.
  Two small fragments about one gram total.
 
  Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
  Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.
 
  Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite
 fall.
 
  Chris Spratt
  Victoria BC
  (Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] When is an Asteroid Not an Asteroid?

2011-03-29 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-100  

When is an Asteroid Not an Asteroid?
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
March 29, 2011

On March 29, 1807, German astronomer Heinrich Wilhelm Olbers spotted
Vesta as a pinprick of light in the sky. Two hundred and four years
later, as NASA's Dawn spacecraft prepares to begin orbiting this
intriguing world, scientists now know how special this world is, even if
there has been some debate on how to classify it.

Vesta is most commonly called an asteroid because it lies in the
orbiting rubble patch known as the main asteroid belt between Mars and
Jupiter. But the vast majority of objects in the main belt are
lightweights, 100-kilometers-wide (about 60-miles wide) or smaller,
compared with Vesta, which is about 530 kilometers (330 miles) across on
average. In fact, numerous bits of Vesta ejected by collisions with
other objects have been identified in the main belt.

I don't think Vesta should be called an asteroid, said Tom McCord, a
Dawn co-investigator based at the Bear Fight Institute, Winthrop, Wash.
Not only is Vesta so much larger, but it's an evolved object, unlike
most things we call asteroids.

The layered structure of Vesta (core, mantle and crust) is the key trait
that makes Vesta more like planets such as Earth, Venus and Mars than
the other asteroids, McCord said. Like the planets, Vesta had sufficient
radioactive material inside when it coalesced, releasing heat that
melted rock and enabled lighter layers to float to the outside.
Scientists call this process differentiation.

McCord and colleagues were the first to discover that Vesta was likely
differentiated when special detectors on their telescopes in 1972 picked
up the signature of basalt. That meant that the body had to have melted
at one time.

Officially, Vesta is a minor planet -- a body that orbits the sun but
is not a proper planet or comet. But there are more than 540,000 minor
planets in our solar system, so the label doesn't give Vesta much
distinction. Dwarf planets -- which include Dawn's second destination,
Ceres -- are another category, but Vesta doesn't qualify as one of
those. For one thing, Vesta isn't quite large enough.

Dawn scientists prefer to think of Vesta as a protoplanet because it is
a dense, layered body that orbits the sun and began in the same fashion
as Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, but somehow never fully developed. In
the swinging early history of the solar system, objects became planets
by merging with other Vesta-sized objects. But Vesta never found a
partner during the big dance, and the critical time passed. It may have
had to do with the nearby presence of Jupiter, the neighborhood's
gravitational superpower, disturbing the orbits of objects and hogging
the dance partners.

Other space rocks have collided with Vesta and knocked off bits of it.
Those became debris in the asteroid belt known as Vestoids, and even
hundreds of meteorites that have ended up on Earth. But Vesta never
collided with something of sufficient size to disrupt it, and it
remained intact. As a result, Vesta is a time capsule from that earlier era.

This gritty little protoplanet has survived bombardment in the asteroid
belt for over 4.5 billion years, making its surface possibly the oldest
planetary surface in the solar system, said Christopher Russell, Dawn's
principal investigator, based at UCLA. Studying Vesta will enable us to
write a much better history of the solar system's turbulent youth.

Dawn's scientists and engineers have designed a master plan to
investigate these special features of Vesta. When Dawn arrives at Vesta
in July, the south pole will be in full sunlight, giving scientists a
clear view of a huge crater at the south pole. That crater may reveal
the layer cake of materials inside Vesta that will tell us how the body
evolved after formation. The orbit design allows Dawn to map new terrain
as the seasons progress over its 12-month visit. The spacecraft will
make many measurements, including high-resolution data on surface
composition, topography and texture. The spacecraft will also measure
the tug of Vesta's gravity to learn more about its internal structure.

Dawn's ion thrusters are gently carrying us toward Vesta, and the
spacecraft is getting ready for its big year of exploration, said Marc
Rayman, Dawn's chief engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
Pasadena, Calif. We have designed our mission to get the most out of
this opportunity to reveal the exciting secrets of this uncharted,
exotic world.

The Dawn mission to Vesta and Ceres is managed by the Jet Propulsion
Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in
Pasadena, for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The Dawn
mission is part of the Discovery Program managed by NASA's Marshall
Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. UCLA is responsible for overall
Dawn mission science. Orbital Sciences Corporation of Dulles, Va.,
designed and built the Dawn spacecraft. The 

[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale!

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Catterton
HI to all, hope everyone is doing good. 
I am clearing out some material and am offering a nice sale - 

Lunar Thin sections - $150.00
Tatahouine thin sections - $80.00
NWA 6292 thin sections... paired with NWA 5400 - $150.00
NWA  CO3 thin sections - $100.00
Thuathe $6 per gram
Tatahouine $12 per gram and up (depending on fragment size)
Camel Donga $16 per gram
Sikhote Alin individuals, very nice features $3 per gram
NWA 1465 $8 per gram
NWA 869 $1.50 per gram

Pics on request. Thanks for looking.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Richard Kowalski
I'd be very interested to know if people beyond the heavy end of these falls 
heard the sonic boom?

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:

 From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:03 PM
 Hello Sonny, Steve, and List,
 
 Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by
 many in the area
 
 Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and
 Nancy
 Ryan - Tribune staff reporters) - March 27, 2003, 1:20 PM
 CST:
 
 ... Garza said he was in bed when he heard his
  dog barking and what sounded like *thunder*.
 
 We all heard a *sound* about two minutes after. It was
 like a *sonic boom*.
 
 
 Best wishes from the happy owner of five gorgeous Park
 Forest
 meteorites, all of which were kindly given to me by Steve
 Witt
 and are, of course, still in my collection where they will
 stay
 for good! Steve, thank you once again for these beauties!
 
 Bernd
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Meteorites USA
Curious... I know there are many variables involved, and it probably 
varies with the conditions under which each event occurs, but I've read 
that some people have heard sonic booms (as low boom/rumbles) up to 50 
miles away or more.


Couldn't one figure out that distance by calculating altitude of any 
given bolide and air pressure/temp during the time of the event, (since 
it affects the sound waves at different elevations) to determine how far 
from the epicenter someone could here the sonic boom?


I'm seriously curious about this.

Regards,
Eric


On 3/29/2011 3:30 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

I'd be very interested to know if people beyond the heavy end of these falls 
heard the sonic boom?

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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de  wrote:

   

From: Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:03 PM
Hello Sonny, Steve, and List,

Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by
many in the area

Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and
Nancy
Ryan - Tribune staff reporters) - March 27, 2003, 1:20 PM
CST:

... Garza said he was in bed when he heard his
  dog barking and what sounded like *thunder*.

We all heard a *sound* about two minutes after. It was
like a *sonic boom*.


Best wishes from the happy owner of five gorgeous Park
Forest
meteorites, all of which were kindly given to me by Steve
Witt
and are, of course, still in my collection where they will
stay
for good! Steve, thank you once again for these beauties!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale!

2011-03-29 Thread tett

Greg,

What can you tell me about your thin sections?

I am interested in your lunars and NWA 6292.

Cheers!

Mike Tettenborn

On 29/03/2011 6:10 PM, Greg Catterton wrote:

HI to all, hope everyone is doing good.
I am clearing out some material and am offering a nice sale -

Lunar Thin sections - $150.00
Tatahouine thin sections - $80.00
NWA 6292 thin sections... paired with NWA 5400 - $150.00
NWA  CO3 thin sections - $100.00
Thuathe $6 per gram
Tatahouine $12 per gram and up (depending on fragment size)
Camel Donga $16 per gram
Sikhote Alin individuals, very nice features $3 per gram
NWA 1465 $8 per gram
NWA 869 $1.50 per gram

Pics on request. Thanks for looking.

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[meteorite-list] Tucson Ring Questions

2011-03-29 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List,

I vaguely remember seeing a schematic somewhere many years ago of how a
sample of the Tucson Ring was sectioned into pieces. Does anyone remember
this or know where I can find it? Also, I am interested in knowing where,
exactly, samples were actually removed from the ring. I have an old woodcut
from 1855 that shows the ring in its original state and I notice there is a
nodular mass inside the ring that is not present on the current mass. Is
this removed portion the source of all the small specimens in collections
today?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay

I'd be very interested to know if  people beyond the heavy end of these 
falls heard the sonic  boom?

Does anybody know of a fireball fall and recovery where  there were NO 
sonic booms?
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread wahlperry

Hi All,

Thanks for the replies. It sounds like a sonic boom my be a determining 
factor in recovering meteorites and which fireballs to chase.


Sonny


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom


Curious... I know there are many variables involved, and it probably 
varies with the conditions under which each event occurs, but I've read 
that some people have heard sonic booms (as low boom/rumbles) up to 50 
miles away or more.Couldn't one figure out that distance by calculating 
altitude of any given bolide and air pressure/temp during the time of 
the event, (since it affects the sound waves at different elevations) 
to determine how far from the epicenter someone could here the sonic 
boom?I'm seriously curious about this.Regards,EricOn 3/29/2011 3:30 PM, 
Richard Kowalski wrote: I'd be very interested to know if people 
beyond the heavy end of these falls heard the sonic boom? -- Richard 
Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 3/29/11, 
Bernd V. Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de  wrote: From: Bernd V. 
Paulibernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball 
question / sonic boom To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: 
Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:03 PM Hello Sonny, Steve, and List, 
Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by many in 
the area Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom 
and Nancy Ryan - Tribune staff reporters) - March 27, 2003, 1:20 
PM CST: ... Garza said he was in bed when he heard his   dog 
barking and what sounded like *thunder*. We all heard a *sound* 
about two minutes after. It was like a *sonic boom*. Best 
wishes from the happy owner of five gorgeous Park Forest 
meteorites, all of which were kindly given to me by Steve Witt and 
are, of course, still in my collection where they will stay for 
good! Steve, thank you once again for these beauties! Bernd 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay

Thanks for the replies. It sounds  like a sonic boom my be a determining 
factor in recovering meteorites and  which fireballs to chase.


Yep...that's what I've been saying  for yearsIf no booms...save 
yourself the wear and tear. 
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Cressy
All,

There are several falls where no sonic boom was noticed.  Speaking of US falls, 
the last two that come to mind are Berthoud, CO and New Orleans, LA.  Others 
that I can readily recall are Salem, OR and Athens, AL.  Reports from the 
latter 
two specifically state there were no explosions or booms.

Cheers,

Frank




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I'd be very interested to know if  people beyond the heavy end of these 
falls heard the sonic  boom?

Does anybody know of a fireball fall and recovery where  there were NO 
sonic booms?
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay


There are several falls where no  sonic boom was noticed.  Speaking of US 
falls, 
the last two that come  to mind are Berthoud, CO and New Orleans, LA.  
Others 
that I can  readily recall are Salem, OR and Athens, AL.  Reports from the 
latter  
two specifically state there were no explosions or  booms

Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable meteorites  recovered from 
falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were some for  those 
above, but there probably weren't people in the right places to hear it.  
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread Stuart McDaniel

Well ain't that just cute!! :-)



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From: Greg Catterton

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:36 PM
To: meteoriteguy.com ; Michael Gilmer
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

I think it would be an awesome time for us all to post a picture or two of 
small sub gram complete fusion crusted stones we have in our collection.

Would be very neat to see some of what everyone has!

Here is another of my sub gram complete crusted stones.

Mifflin .90g
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Mifflin90g.jpg

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com
Cc: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com, 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 4:14 PM
Hi List,

My two smallest complete meteorites are Chergach
peas.  One weighs
436mg (but has a chip in the crust) and the other is 787mg
and is 100%
crusted.

I'd post photos, but both of camera batteries are dead, so
I'll post
some photos of them later.  :)

Mike Farmer - those Bensours sound like BB's instead of
peas.  :)

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG

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wrote:
 I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th
gram.
 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com
wrote:

 Revelstoke BC  - Type: CI fell March 31,
1965.
 Two small fragments about one gram total.

 Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967.
 Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg.

 Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite
fall.

 Chris Spratt
 Victoria BC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Robert Woolard
 From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
 
 Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable
 meteorites  recovered from 
 falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were
 some for  those 
 above, but there probably weren't people in the right
 places to hear it.  
 GeoZay  
  **

So,

  Like the old question goes: 
 
     If a meteorite falls and makes a sonic boom, but nobody is there to hear 
it, does it still make a sound?  ;-)

   Best wishes,
   Robert Woolard 





  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Gary Fujihara
or ... if a meteor produces a sonic boom, but nobody is there to hear it, does 
it still drop meteorites?  ;^)

gary

On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Robert Woolard wrote:

 From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
 
 Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable
 meteorites  recovered from 
 falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were
 some for  those 
 above, but there probably weren't people in the right
 places to hear it.  
 GeoZay  
   **
 
 So,
 
   Like the old question goes: 
 
  If a meteorite falls and makes a sonic boom, but nobody is there to hear 
 it, does it still make a sound?  ;-)
 
Best wishes,
Robert Woolard 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Sonic Boom

2011-03-29 Thread wahlperry

Hi All,

I had a chance to talk to Skip Wilson about the Portales Fall. The 
occupants of two of the nearby residences (about a half mile apart) 
sitting directly under the main break up did not hear anything. One of 
the residents happened to be working outside when the meteorite broke 
apart. Interestingly enough the Portales residents who were situated 
directly behind and in front of the break up heard two distinct sonic 
booms.


Sonny












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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Ruben and List
You guys have come with some interesting small fries, very impressive. I
thought I might chime in here with a little midget, not a record
breaker, unless my scales are lying to me. But this little cutie weighs
in at 0.3 grams (maybe, maybe less). I think this is a seller's scale
;-) 

A very small, oriented individual, 100% crusted, with what I think are
flow lines and iridescence and on the reverse a very bubbly roll over
lip. Personally, I think it's fantastic, but that's just my personal
views.

Oops! Forgot. Found on site by a good friend of mine, Buzzard Coulee

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_46992.jpg
 
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_47052.jpg

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125

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Garcia
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:54 AM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?


Hi all,

After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started wondering.
What is the smallest complete meteorite?

Here's mine
http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurre
nt=met006.jpg

This one has got to be in the running...

This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Stuart McDaniel

Yep..the Geico man proved it!!



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom


From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom



Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable
meteorites  recovered from
falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were
some for  those
above, but there probably weren't people in the right
places to hear it.
GeoZay

 **

So,

 Like the old question goes:

If a meteorite falls and makes a sonic boom, but nobody is there to 
hear it, does it still make a sound?  ;-)


  Best wishes,
  Robert Woolard






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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread John.L.Cabassi
Sorry for the double post, trying to fix the broken links

Cheers
John

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:07 PM
To: 'Ruben Garcia'; 'Meteorite List'
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?


G'Day Ruben and List
You guys have come with some interesting small fries, very impressive. I
thought I might chime in here with a little midget, not a record
breaker, unless my scales are lying to me. But this little cutie weighs
in at 0.3 grams (maybe, maybe less). I think this is a seller's scale
;-) 

A very small, oriented individual, 100% crusted, with what I think are
flow lines and iridescence and on the reverse a very bubbly roll over
lip. Personally, I think it's fantastic, but that's just my personal
views.

Oops! Forgot. Found on site by a good friend of mine, Buzzard Coulee

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_46992.jpg
 
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_47052.jpg

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben
Garcia
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:54 AM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?


Hi all,

After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started wondering.
What is the smallest complete meteorite?

Here's mine
http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurre
nt=met006.jpg

This one has got to be in the running...

This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

-- 
Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?

2011-03-29 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day List
Anybody have any suggestions to these broken links?  I try but they keep
getting split up. Is it the List? Or am I doing something wrong?

The links do work if you copy and paste them in your browser. And also
mention Meteorite, just in case my butt gets chewed 



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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:07 PM
To: 'Ruben Garcia'; 'Meteorite List'
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?


G'Day Ruben and List
You guys have come with some interesting small fries, very impressive. I
thought I might chime in here with a little midget, not a record
breaker, unless my scales are lying to me. But this little cutie weighs
in at 0.3 grams (maybe, maybe less). I think this is a seller's scale
;-) 

A very small, oriented individual, 100% crusted, with what I think are
flow lines and iridescence and on the reverse a very bubbly roll over
lip. Personally, I think it's fantastic, but that's just my personal
views.

Oops! Forgot. Found on site by a good friend of mine, Buzzard Coulee

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_46992.jpg
 
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Rocks%20-n-%20Gems/D
SC_47052.jpg

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben
Garcia
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:54 AM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?


Hi all,

After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I found - I started wondering.
What is the smallest complete meteorite?

Here's mine
http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=viewcurre
nt=met006.jpg

This one has got to be in the running...

This tiny individual plus two more (all about the same size) combined
don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on my scale.

-- 
Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sonic Boom

2011-03-29 Thread fallingfusion
Hello Sonny and Listmembers,

Interesting. Perhaps the sound waves travel around the epicenter (anything 
located directly beneath) as they move towards the ground. I imagine circular 
rings moving expanding in an outward direction as they travel to the Earths 
surface. The higher the altitude of breakup, the larger the rings will be when 
they touch down... and the further away one must be from the center to 
actually hear the sonic booms. This is just a guess.
Anyone with more knowledge care to elaborate on this hypothesis?

Ryan

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Sonic Boom

Hi All,

I had a chance to talk to Skip Wilson about the Portales Fall. The 
occupants of two of the nearby residences (about a half mile apart) 
sitting directly under the main break up did not hear anything. One of 
the residents happened to be working outside when the meteorite broke 
apart. Interestingly enough the Portales residents who were situated 
directly behind and in front of the break up heard two distinct sonic 
booms.

Sonny












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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Marc Fries
Something to consider...  If all events with sonic booms generate meteorites, 
then there are meteorites on the ground in Louisiana/Mississippi from the big 
fireball there a couple of months back.  Here's Jake Schaefer's page on that 
event again...

http://3dradar.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/southern-ms-fall-1122011-at-0250-utc/

Cheers,
Marc Fries


On Mar 29, 2011, at 5:11 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote:

 
 
 There are several falls where no  sonic boom was noticed.  Speaking of US 
 falls, 
 the last two that come  to mind are Berthoud, CO and New Orleans, LA.  
 Others 
 that I can  readily recall are Salem, OR and Athens, AL.  Reports from the 
 latter  
 two specifically state there were no explosions or  booms
 
 Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable meteorites  recovered from 
 falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were some for  those 
 above, but there probably weren't people in the right places to hear it.  
 GeoZay  
 
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[meteorite-list] In situ photos of you and your finds

2011-03-29 Thread Regine Petersen
Hi list,

I'm looking for images from your photo album, in particular: In situ photos of 
you posing with a meteorite you found (small or big, it doesn't matter)

If you want one of yours to be considered for a book feel free to send them 
(best would be in a manageable but printable size, 300 dpi at 10 x 15 cm (4 x 
6) or similar). No fancy images necessary, a snapshot style is preferred. It 
would be fun to display them all side by side!

Please email off list.
Thanks,
Regine
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[meteorite-list] GREAT PHOTOS (EoM)

2011-03-29 Thread John Lutzon

Russ Finney,

I'm not sure of who i'm more jealous of--YOU--for being so close to all of 
those beauties or THE--Smithsonian: US National Museum (USNM) for not 
choosing my house to store them in, instead of some musty old museum.


I'm still very much upset but in either case--GREAT PHOTOS!!

John
IMCA# 1896 


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Re: [meteorite-list] In situ photos of you and your finds

2011-03-29 Thread Patrick Wiggins
How's this?

http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/METEOR01.HTML 

Grins,

patrick


On 29 Mar 2011, at 21:49, Regine Petersen wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I'm looking for images from your photo album, in particular: In situ photos 
 of you posing with a meteorite you found (small or big, it doesn't matter)
 
 If you want one of yours to be considered for a book feel free to send them 
 (best would be in a manageable but printable size, 300 dpi at 10 x 15 cm (4 x 
 6) or similar). No fancy images necessary, a snapshot style is preferred. It 
 would be fun to display them all side by side!
 
 Please email off list.
 Thanks,
 Regine
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
I think most large fireballs do not produce meteorites. Most meteorites are 
the product of rather ordinary meteors, which survive because they are slow 
and shallow and slow down while still very high, don't fragment, and produce 
single individuals. Of course, the vast majority of these are never found, 
and those that are have no associated fireball. When there are big 
fireballs- the sort that get meteorite hunters salivating- the situation is 
different. Most big fireballs probably don't produce meteorites. Those that 
do, however, do so because they start off with enough mass that they can 
afford to lose 95% of it and still have something get low enough to hit 
dense air at a low enough speed to avoid complete destruction. That height 
is below about 30 km, which happens to be about the height where sonic booms 
can be produced and reach the ground. So the presence of a sonic boom with a 
fireball is a useful indicator that meteorites might be produced. The 
absence of one, however, probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that 
they were not, since a meteor can still end (without complete ablation) high 
enough that no sonic boom will reach the ground.


Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:34 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom



Hi List,

It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few 
months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent 
Oklahoma event. I was wondering if the absence of a sonic boom has 
anything to do with it.
Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a major meteorite 
producing event? Could there still be a few meteorites on the ground with 
no sonic boom? With Buzzard Coulee, Mifflin, Ash Creek these events all 
produced meteorites and sonic booms were heard by the locals. Does anyone 
know if there were sonic booms associated with the Park Forest and 
Whetstone events?


Thanks,
Sonny


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
The 
absence of one, however,  probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that 
they were not, since a  meteor can still end (without complete ablation) 
high 
enough that no sonic  boom will reach the ground.


Wouldn't these(meteorites) that  are high enuf that no sonic boom will 
reach the ground end up being rather small  meteorites? This because a small 
meteorite will be slowed down rather quickly  higher up. The larger meteorites 
having more momentum to carry it on down to the  lower atmosphere will still 
have a velocity fast enuf to produce the big thunder  like sonics? 
GeoZay  

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 30, 2011

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_30_2011.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Meteorites USA
George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of 
sound is about 760 MPH.


What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer 
incandescent?


Regards,
Eric


On 3/29/2011 10:12 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote:

The
   

absence of one, however,  probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that
they were not, since a  meteor can still end (without complete ablation)
high
enough that no sonic  boom will reach the ground.


Wouldn't these(meteorites) that  are high enuf that no sonic boom will
reach the ground end up being rather small  meteorites? This because a small
meteorite will be slowed down rather quickly  higher up. The larger meteorites
having more momentum to carry it on down to the  lower atmosphere will still
have a velocity fast enuf to produce the big thunder  like sonics?
GeoZay

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
The vast majority of meteorites retard while they are still far too high for 
sonic booms to reach the ground. The big, impressive fireballs that are more 
massive and reach lower heights are the exceptions. The meteoroids that slow 
down while still high are more likely to produce single meteorites; those 
that have enough mass to reach low altitudes still traveling at high speed 
tend to fragment and produce strewn fields.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom



The

absence of one, however,  probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that
they were not, since a  meteor can still end (without complete ablation)
high
enough that no sonic  boom will reach the ground.


Wouldn't these(meteorites) that  are high enuf that no sonic boom will
reach the ground end up being rather small  meteorites? This because a 
small
meteorite will be slowed down rather quickly  higher up. The larger 
meteorites
having more momentum to carry it on down to the  lower atmosphere will 
still

have a velocity fast enuf to produce the big thunder  like sonics?
GeoZay


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
Ablation ceases at 3-4 km/s (about Mach 10), and this is about where the 
meteoroid becomes invisible. For a typical meteorite, it will rapidly lose 
this remaining velocity and enter nearly vertical dark flight.


Chris

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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom


George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of 
sound is about 760 MPH.


What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer 
incandescent?


Regards,
Eric


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay




George jut brought up a  good point and I have a question. The speed of 
sound is about 760  MPH.

What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer  
incandescent?

I believe its in the neighborhood of 7,000 mph.  If its a small meteoroid, 
it will extinguish way too high for a sonic boom to  reach the ground. 
GeoZay  

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