[meteorite-list] Draconid meteor shower - any reports yet?
Bob inquired: I was wondering if any list members from Europe or N. Africa were successful in seeing the Draconid meteor shower (storm) this evening? Hi All, I saw one that even flared at 22:25 CEDST. It was bright (bluish-white) with a short and stubby luminous trail. At 22:45 CEDST, there was another, not as bright as no. 1 but a longer trail. Same color and no flares. Then, unfortunately, we were once again clouded out where I live in the Mannheim / Heidelberg area here in Germany :-( There was a report last night that numerous Draconids (Giacobinids) were observed near Cologne. I think the report stated there were about 15 Draconids within 20 minutes. Best Sunday wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Draconid meteor shower - any reports yet?
I could just spot a handful of them (northwestern Spain), one VERY big, but the Moon was too brigth. Best regards, Leo From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:08:57 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Draconid meteor shower - any reports yet? Bob inquired: I was wondering if any list members from Europe or N. Africa were successful in seeing the Draconid meteor shower (storm) this evening? Hi All, I saw one that even flared at 22:25 CEDST. It was bright (bluish-white) with a short and stubby luminous trail. At 22:45 CEDST, there was another, not as bright as no. 1 but a longer trail. Same color and no flares. Then, unfortunately, we were once again clouded out where I live in the Mannheim / Heidelberg area here in Germany :-( There was a report last night that numerous Draconids (Giacobinids) were observed near Cologne. I think the report stated there were about 15 Draconids within 20 minutes. Best Sunday wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Seymchan http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Alain Carion is in the background and the article mentioned he authenticated it...real deal. Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: karmaka karm...@email.de Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4543 - Release Date: 10/07/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Hi Mike, Hopefully this new fall will not be as dangerous to chase as Thika was! :) remember the stories about the Britanny meteor and possible meteorites (which have still not been found, btw)? Private meteorite hunters are unfortunately not welcome in France these days... :-( Here is another article (with a stock photo of an iron meteorite (not the real one, I guess)) http://www.france24.com/fr/20111009-mme-comette-trouve-une-meteorite-le-toit-son-pavillon http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.france24.com%2Ffr%2F20111009-mme-comette-trouve-une-meteorite-le-toit-son-pavillon Around 100 grams in fragments of a chondrite have been found, the biggest weighs 88 grams. Best wishes Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:24:35 An: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Rob and List, This is good news. The world is short on falls this year, as compared to the statistical average over the previous 10 years. Hopefully this new fall will not be as dangerous to chase as Thika was! :) Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: Alain Carion is in the background and the article mentioned he authenticated it...real deal. Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: karmaka karm...@email.de Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4543 - Release Date: 10/07/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
I just landed in Paris. Struck out at the draconids in greece due to clouds and rain. Maybe I can redeem myself here. Wife is not gonna be happy about this... On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:01 PM, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote: Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canada Daytime Meteor 9OCT2011
Dear List, Just posted from reader: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/10/ottawa-ontario-canada-daytime-meteor.html Have a great day. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mysterious meteorite in Beijing, China
Mysterious meteorite in Beijing, China? Was there another meteorite fall on June 16 (or 27 ?) 2011, 8.00 pm or was it found somewhere? It weighs 4936 g and seems to be 'special': 1 one of its surface showing yellow and silver or white gold metallic minerals, metal melting point and the obvious massive class, not an ordinary chondrite stone 2. the surface through its coin-sized internal damage we can see that show green meteorite, meteorites do not generally gray, indicating its special ingredients 3. third is the color of their skin with black and brown, and dark and different from ordinary meteorites possible witness report from a Mr. Zhang: Mr Zhang said, according to this year, June 27 8:00 pm, he was walking to the ground, suddenly the sky came the same as the roar of landing aircraft, there are things sped to hit the ground at a height of a man splashes soil, feeling like a bomb landed about 10 minutes later, he boldly and watch as more than a stone in the ground, touched the warm feeling well, next to a few scattered fragments, so he will have collected rocks and debris. http://culture.people.com.cn/GB/22219/15830083.html translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=desl=zh-CNtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fculture.people.com.cn%2FGB%2F22219%2F15830083.html http://travel.gmw.cn/2011-10/09/content_2752408.htm translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CNtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel.gmw.cn%2F2011-10%2F09%2Fcontent_2752408.htm Best wishes Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
My guess is that it is an H Chondrite judging from the nearly immediate oxidation. It displays rust almost as quickly as Peekskill. Adam - Original Message - From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Green Fireballs and NEOs Part 1
Part 1 The significance of Green Fireballs (double posted but not cross posted) Long time list members of the meteorobs list are aware of the concentration of reported fireballs this past spring and of “green” fireballs-- there has been much discussion. This two part post is to address the possible significance and relationship of green fireballs and Near Earth Objects(NEOs) especially Earth-crossing bodies. Be it remembered that all meteoroids entering our atmosphere are/were in Earth-crossing orbits and represent the closest of the close of NEOs! The meteorite chasers community may take interest as the mix of successive colors of a meteor my provide clues as to the meteorite dropping potential of a particular event. There is a documented higher flux of both fireballs and meteorite falls in early spring( citation later) The purpose of meteor observation traditionally has been to document meteor flux from cometary sources and identify new showers to identify the existence of long period comets. Thinking wholly within a particular box, the long standing focus has been to take snapshots of meteor flux with not much statistical evaluation of the bulk data. I surmise someone, somewhere, someday, might eventually correlate this data to comets past and present, to whatever ends that research might tell us of recent comet populations and their orbits in the inner solar system. Virtually no effort is going on in the meteor observer community to identify asteroid-ally derived debris streams as the low density/frequency of observations places any potential pattern there may be into the category “sporadic”. Couple this with lock box thinking that “such a thing could not exist” and no one may ever undertake such an attempt to make annual correlations. More on that in part two. A minuscule portion of observational effort has been capturing meteor spectral emissions. Without a spectrometer, fireball colors are not easy to reliably categorize beyond basic color sequences as only the spectrometer and camera can record them with specificity. We should all realize how difficult it is to even capture a fireball on camera and how even more rare it is to capture the spectral emissions of a meteor through an even smaller aperture. In fact, most “color discussions”, have favored the “subjective perception of the observer paradigm and not the specific atomic sources of the light emissions. When color is noted, it is largely taken as a “whole” rather than collection of specific emission lines of light viewed through a spectrometer and that is just the way the eye perceives color--by blending multiple wavelengths into a single hue. When we mix enough wavelengths together we will always favor the white fireball when describing a meteor--unless there is a specific overriding hue. Well frequently there is such a natural bias and frequently it is green. What vignette examples we do have of meteor spectra do not seem to have been methodically worked into a sound scientific theory regarding the significance of meteoritical light. Better late than never. For clarity a quick review of the spectral sources might be in order: I find at least three sources of light in a meteor’s flare and two of those overlap. 1) The spectral emission lines of the constituent elements/molecules of the meteoroid proper when they change phase into gas/plasma. 2) The excited state of the atmospheric gases/dust which the meteoroid acts upon-- mainly 5-6 species: N2, O2, O3,NO, N and O but at high velocity expands to at least 19 species of atoms/molecules including CO2, argon, H2O and so forth.( NOTE: this has implications for a different typical color of a meteor when viewed from the surface of Mars) 3) The change in chemical composition as existing molecules are disassociated and new molecules form in a flash( pun intended) owing to recombination which may form species such as (CN)2 ,CO, Fe2O, FeC, Mg2O etc. not normally seen in the auroral spectra. The atoms/molecules from a meteoroid emit light because they are heated in an induced plasma stream when entering the atmosphere; they incandesce as well as chemically oxidize, emitting a more complicated assembly of spectral lines; loosely conceptualized such as the way that different compounds in fireworks provides for different colors. The atoms/molecules of the atmosphere are ionized in the super-hot bow wave ahead of the meteoroid, causing them to emit photons of certain specific wavelengths, depending on what elements are present --and what compounds reform in the furnace of entry as a mist of melted meteoroid enters the slip stream. Color saturation/intensity is also a function of density for the various atoms/molecules. Nitrogen will tend to dominate over oxygen which will dominate over CO2 owing to bulk percentages in the makeup of the atmosphere. We will tend to see colors
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Great news, safe place. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 8:01 AM, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote: Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Here you can see a TV report (France 3, Paris edition of this evening) in which you can see the fragments, A. Carion and the proud owner of the meteorite: http://info.francetelevisions.fr/video-info/index-fr.php?id-categorie=JOURNAUX_LES_EDITIONS_REGIONALES_PARIS_ILE_DE_FRANCE_1920 Choose this edition: J/T 19/20 Paris Ile-de-France du 09/10/2011 It starts after 55 seconds running time. Enjoy! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 21:49:17 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Yes, Adam, it is an H chondrite. Alain Carion confirmed this in the TV report Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 22:08:25 An: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? My guess is that it is an H Chondrite judging from the nearly immediate oxidation. It displays rust almost as quickly as Peekskill. Adam - Original Message - From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Greg Hupé Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:14 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... Hello All, Here is a sneak peek to a new meteorite I will be making available real soon: http://www.lunarrock.com/SneakPeek4u.jpg Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
Greg: While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Preferred orientation?! ;-) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
One more hint: Go with the flow... ;-) Greg Greg: While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Preferred orientation?! ;-) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
And there is another online article on the fall: http://www.mediapart.fr/article/offert/50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=frtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediapart.fr%2Farticle%2Foffert%2F50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 Bonne nuit Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:28:43 An: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
Hmmm ... If you look at it carefully, can you find a north*site? -Original Message- From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 5:36 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... Greg: While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Preferred orientation?! ;-) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
G'Day List Interesting. The first thing that came to my mind when I saw that teaser image was Acapulcoite. And I know it's not the first North American Lunar because I have that but I'm keeping it quiet ;-)) Sheesh! I give up. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 4:05 PM To: Bernd V. Pauli; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... One more hint: Go with the flow... ;-) Greg Greg: While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Preferred orientation?! ;-) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Interior pictures of recent find 169.g
Hi All, As requested here are some interior pictures of the new find. Let me know what you all think it might be. http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/2011_169g_find.html Thanks, Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 1923 1966 Catalogue of Meteorites, British Museum
Hi List, I've listed copies of the 1923 and 1966 Catalogue of Meteorites for sale at auction. The 1923 copy was given to The Royal Ontario Museum Library by The Trustees of The British Museum. The 1966 copy is from the Hunt Library at the Carnegie Mellon Institute of Technology. Starting bids are $1 each. http://www.ebay.com/sch/crystalcoastgems/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p3686 Thanks! John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
