Re: [meteorite-list] more fireballs 14-17OCT2011

2011-10-18 Thread Shawn Alan
Dirk and Listers

Thats a lot of meteor sightings. I wonder if some of them coinside with the 
Epsilon-Geminids meteor shower? The shower started on the 14th of this month 
and the peak will be today and ends around the 27th. Let hope for some 
meteorites :)


Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
eBaystore 
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[meteorite-list] more fireballs 14-17OCT2011
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Mon Oct 17 17:31:06 EDT 2011 

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Soest, Germany Fireball Meteor 16OCT2011 

Dear List, Fireballs/Meteors 14-17OCT2011: 

Emporia, VA, USA Large Yellow Meteor 17OCT2011 

Enfield, Nova Scotia, Canada Bright Meteor 16OCT2011 

Beirut, Lebanon Meteor? 16OCT2011 

Vancouver, Washington, USA Meteor 16OCT2011 

Haverfordwest, South Wales UK Meteor Fireball 15OCT2011 

Albany, Auckland, New Zealand Meteor Green-Blue Meteor 16OCT2011 

California / Nevada/ Utah Meteor 14OCT2011 

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ 

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo 




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[meteorite-list] [AD] HOW, Ghubara, Gao, Zaklodzie

2011-10-18 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-10-18 Thread valparint
NWA 6693

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Comet May Have Missed Earth By A FewHundredKilometres in 1883?

2011-10-18 Thread Matthias Bärmann


 I just gave up drinking beer and burned my will---no need for such 
trivia at

 this point.


I just began drinking wine. Red wine.

This comet reminds me of an old zen koan: Where have you been before your 
parents were born?


But, who knows ... perhaps the impact did happen in fact. And that's what 
we're living now :-)



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From: John Lutzon j...@hc.fdn.com

To: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Comet May Have Missed Earth By A 
FewHundredKilometres in 1883?



Hi Ron,

Thank you again for all of your posts---very informative.

I just gave up drinking beer and burned my will---no need for such trivia at
this point.

Does anyone have any data on this Pons-Brooks and/or are there any calcs.
on its possible return to our backyard?

Well, maybe one more beer while i wait for the flash.

John.

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Comet May Have Missed Earth By A Few
HundredKilometres in 1883?




http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27264/

Billion Tonne Comet May Have Missed Earth By A Few Hundred
Kilometres in 1883

Technology Review
October 17, 2011

A re-analysis of historical observations suggest Earth narrowly avoided
an extinction event just over a hundred years ago

On 12th and 13th August 1883, an astronomer at a small observatory in
Zacatecas in Mexico made an extraordinary observation. José Bonilla
counted some 450 objects, each surrounded by a kind of mist, passing
across the face of the Sun.

Bonilla published his account of this event in a French journal called
L'Astronomie in 1886. Unable to account for the phenomenon, the editor
of the journal suggested, rather incredulously, that it must have been
caused by birds, insects or dust passing front of the Bonilla's
telescope. (Since then, others have adopted Bonilla's observations as
the first evidence of UFOs.)

Today, Hector Manterola at the National Autonomous University of Mexico
in Mexico City, and a couple of pals, give a different interpretation.
They think that Bonilla must have been seeing fragments of a comet that
had recently broken up. This explains the 'misty' appearance of the
pieces and why they were so close together.

But there's much more that Manterola and co have deduced. They point out
that nobody else on the planet seems to have seen this comet passing in
front of the Sun, even though the nearest observatories in those days
were just a few hundred kilometres away.

That can be explained using parallax. If the fragments were close to
Earth, parallax would have ensured that they would not have been in line
with the Sun even for observers nearby. And since Mexico is at the same
latitude as the Sahara, northern India and south-east Asia, it's not
hard to imagine that nobody else was looking.

Manterola and pals have used this to place limits on how close the
fragments must have been: between 600 km and 8000 km of Earth. That's
just a hair's breadth.

What's more, Manterola and co estimate that these objects must have
ranged in size from 50 to 800 metres across and that the parent comet
must originally have tipped the scales at a billion tonnes or more,
that's huge, approaching the size of Halley's comet.

That's an eye opening re-examination of the data. Astronomers have seen
a number of other comets fragment. The image above shows the
Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 comet which broke apart as it re-entered the
inner Solar System in 2006. There's no reason why such fragments
couldn't pass close by Earth.

One puzzle is why nobody else saw this comet. It must have been
particularly dull to have escaped observation before and after its close
approach. However, Manterola and co suggest that it may have been a
comet called Pons-Brooks seen that same year by American astronomers.

Manterola and co end their paper by spelling out just how close Earth
may have come to catastrophe that day. They point out that Bonilla
observed these objects for about three and a half hours over two days.
This implies an average of 131 objects per hour and a total of 3275
objects in the time between observations.

Each fragment was at least as big as the one thought to have hit
Tunguska. Manterola and co end with this: So if they had collided with
Earth we would have had 3275 Tunguska events in two days, probably an
extinction event.

A sobering thought.

Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1110.2798 http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2798:
Interpretation Of The Observations Made In 1883 In Zacatecas (Mexico): A
Fragmented Comet That Nearly Hits The Earth

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Re: [meteorite-list] more fireballs 14-17OCT2011

2011-10-18 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Olaf Gabel has located video of the Soest, Germany fireball event!
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/10/soest-germany-fireball-meteor-16oct2011.html

Olaf,  Great job!  Thank you for your kind checking  your allsky camera data.  
Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo



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[meteorite-list] Soest, Germany obsevation of German fireball

2011-10-18 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Track goes right through the handle of the Big Dipper. So termination
was
NNW of Soest, Germany, about 8 degrees above azimuth 345. Assuming a
termination altitude of 20 km (very uncertain!), that puts the range at
around 140 km. With luck, this stayed over land and didn't end up in the
North Sea. Towns that are roughly this distance from Soest along that
azimuth are Lastrup, Lindern, Molbergen, Vrees, Rastdorf, Hilkenbrook
and Saterland. Looks like lots of farmland -- perfect for meteorite
recovery!  --Rob

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
drtanuki
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:21 PM
To: Olaf Gabel; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] more fireballs 14-17OCT2011

Dear List, Olaf Gabel has located video of the Soest, Germany fireball
event!
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/10/soest-germany-fireball
-meteor-16oct2011.html

Olaf,  Great job!  Thank you for your kind checking  your allsky camera
data.  Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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Re: [meteorite-list] Soest, Germany obsevation of German fireball

2011-10-18 Thread drtanuki
Thank you Rob for your kind analysis!  Way to go Olaf!  Hunters going to 
Germany for Munich going on a meteorite hunt as well?

--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:

 From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 Subject: Soest, Germany obsevation of German fireball
 To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com, Olaf Gabel 
 rockho...@chief-impactor.de, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 5:15 AM
 Track goes right through the handle
 of the Big Dipper. So termination
 was
 NNW of Soest, Germany, about 8 degrees above azimuth 345.
 Assuming a
 termination altitude of 20 km (very uncertain!), that puts
 the range at
 around 140 km. With luck, this stayed over land and didn't
 end up in the
 North Sea. Towns that are roughly this distance from Soest
 along that
 azimuth are Lastrup, Lindern, Molbergen, Vrees, Rastdorf,
 Hilkenbrook
 and Saterland. Looks like lots of farmland -- perfect for
 meteorite
 recovery!  --Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
 On Behalf Of
 drtanuki
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:21 PM
 To: Olaf Gabel; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] more fireballs 14-17OCT2011
 
 Dear List, Olaf Gabel has located video of the Soest,
 Germany fireball
 event!
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/10/soest-germany-fireball
 -meteor-16oct2011.html
 
 Olaf,  Great job!  Thank you for your kind
 checking  your allsky camera
 data.  Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Meet the Man Who Wants to Mine the Moon

2011-10-18 Thread Paul H.
Meet the Man Who Wants to Mine the Moon
by Jeremy A. Kaplan, FoxNews, October 18, 2011
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/18/meet-man-who-wants-to-mine-moon/

Maybe he can bring home some moonrocks for 
collectors, while engaging in his lunar mining?

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meet the Man Who Wants to Mine the Moon

2011-10-18 Thread Matthias Bärmann


Maybe, Paul, maybe. Wouldn't make him a special friend of dealers,
specialized on planetary material. The price for Moon and Mars would drop
like a stone.

But in times you can ask for the genom copyright of plants and animals,
why not privatize the moon, Mr.Jain, for mining?

Here in Germany we've such an old fashioned sentimental volkslied like Der
Mond ist aufgegangen (the moon has raised). Why not add: Sponsored by: 
Moon Express/Naveen Jain?


I like?

...

Best,
Matthias


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meet the Man Who Wants to Mine the Moon



Meet the Man Who Wants to Mine the Moon
by Jeremy A. Kaplan, FoxNews, October 18, 2011
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/18/meet-man-who-wants-to-mine-moon/

Maybe he can bring home some moonrocks for
collectors, while engaging in his lunar mining?

Yours,

Paul H.

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[meteorite-list] new meteorite supload to my web-site

2011-10-18 Thread Francesco Moser
Hello!
I have done a little refresh of my web-site and I have also upload some new
meteorites:
This is the first time that they are offered on the market!

NWA5813 - L4
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/Chondrite/NWA5813.ht
m

NWA5860 - L6
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/Chondrite/NWA5860.ht
m

NWA6677 - IMB
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/NWA6677%20IMB/NWA667
7.htm

NWA6679 - LL5
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/NWA6679%20LL5/NWA667
9.htm

NWA6684 - L3.6-6
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/NWA6684%20L3.6-6/NWA
6684.htm

NWA6691 - LL5
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/NWA6691%20LL5/NWA669
1.htm

NWA6692 - LL5
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/NWA6692%20LL5/NWA669
2.htm


If you are interested, please take a look!

Thanks a lot!

Francesco Moser
IMCA #1510

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[meteorite-list] over 25, 000 Carolina Bays measured with precision LiDAR -- probable ejecta sheet from 41 Ka impact on Saginaw Bay, MI, USA, Michael E Davias: Rich Murray 2011.10.17

2011-10-18 Thread Rich Murray
over 25,000 Carolina Bays measured with precision LiDAR -- probable
ejecta sheet from 41 Ka impact on Saginaw Bay, MI, USA, Michael  E
Davias: Rich Murray 2011.10.17
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/10/over-25000-carolina-bays-measured-with.html


[ Rich Murray:  after following their work for 3 years, I am impressed
by the impressive evolution in presentation and interpretation of
precise and very beautiful evidence, so I am quoting from their vast
site to provide an introduction. ]


Michael E. Davias, Stamford, CTmich...@cintos.org  917-751-8861
Jeanette L. Gilbride, NCSU, Raleigh, NC 27695

http://www.Cintos.org\

We presented a poster at the 2011 GSA Annual Meeting in Minneapolis.
The poster content, seen below, is also available as a PDF for download.

http://cintos.org/graphics/GSA_2011/GSA-2011_Poster_192776_Davias-HQ.pdf

I presented a TALK on the Survey and its use of LiDAR  Google Earth.

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2011AM/finalprogram/abstract_192576.htm

A PDF of the deck [ very detailed slide show ] is available HERE.

http://cintos.org/graphics/GSA_2011/Davias_GSA2011_Presentation_165-9_HQ.pdf

2011 GSA Annual Meeting in Minneapolis (9–12 October 2011)
Paper No. 165-9 
Presentation Time: 10:35 AM-10:50 AM
LIDAR DIGITAL ELEVATION MAPS EMPLOYED IN CAROLINA BAY SURVEY
DAVIAS, Michael, Stamford, CT 06907, mich...@cintos.org
and GILBRIDE, Jeanette L., North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 27695

Aerial photographs of Carolina bays taken in the 1930’s sparked
research into their geomorphology, but revealed only part of their
unique planforms.
Digital Elevation Maps (DEMs), using LiDAR-derived data, accentuate
the visual presentation of these shallow basins.
To support a geospatial survey of Carolina bay landforms in the
continental US, 400,000 km2 of hsv-shaded DEMs were created as
KML-JPEG tile sets for visualization on a virtual globe.
A majority of these DEMs were generated with LiDAR data, while the
remainder represents USGA 1/3 arc second data. We demonstrate the tile
generation process and their integration into Google Earth for open
public access over the Internet.
While the generic Carolina bay planform is considered oval, we
document regional variations.
Using a small set of empirically derived planform shapes, we created
Google Earth overlay elements to support the manual capture of
individual Carolina bay shapes and orientations.
The resulting overlay data element for each measured bay is extracted
from Google Earth and programmatically processed to generate metrics
such as geographic location, elevation, surface area and inferred
orientation.
When visualized in LiDAR, we document the robustness of a single
planform shape across hundreds or thousands of basins within
geographically large areas.
We maintain that utilizing a virtual globe facility for data captures
and extraction results in more reliable data sets compared to
processes that reference flat map projections.
This is especially true when capturing the geospatial shape and
orientation of the bays, which can be skewed and distorted in the
projection process.
Using the process described, we have measured over 25,000 distinct
Carolina bays, and have assembled their individual characteristics
into a geographic information database.
We examine the Google Fusion geospatial visualization facility,
through which the database has been made publically accessible.
Preliminary findings from the survey are briefly discussed, such as
how bay surface area, eccentricity and orientation vary within and
across ~700 .25 deg x .25 deg grid elements.


We presented a poster at the 2011 Southeastern Section GSA Meeting in
Wilmington.
The poster content, seen below, is also available as a PDF for download.

http://www.cintos.org/graphics/GSA_2011/Poster%20SE-GSA%202011%20184903.pdf


2010 GSA  Abstract 176738 Oct 31 Denver, slide show

http://www.cintos.org/LiDAR_images/page5/page5.html


http://www.cintos.org/LiDAR/index.html

Graphic shows the impact site and triangulation from ~200 bay fields.

The Saginaw Impact Manifold

Evaluating The Carolina Bays As Surface Features In A Distal Ejecta Blanket:
Geophysical Flow Analysis Predicts Bay Orientations,
Enables Triangulation To A Causal Impact Site

Abstract

We present a novel approach to the genesis of the Carolina bays,
proposing that those enigmatic landforms are depositional features
within a 1 to 10 meter-thick blanket of hydrated ejecta associated
with a cosmic impact into the Wisconsinan ice shield during the latter
part of the Pleistocene era, ~40,000 years ago.

The ellipsoidal bays exhibit an inferred orientation, facilitating
the use of a triangulation network to identify the associated
terrestrial impact crater.

 Attempts by others to triangulate bay orientations to a causal crater
may have failed because the ballistic physics and fluid mechanics
aspects of an ejecta distribution were not considered.

An analytical model was heuristically developed to generate ejecta

Re: [meteorite-list] new meteorite supload to my web-site

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Spratt

Nothing there.

Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] Alex' Berlin picnic basket (TBA)

2011-10-18 Thread MexicoDoug

Alex, and fellow friends of carbonaceous delicacies,

So astounding and special a piece - I can't resist to comment without 
delay on the great home you've found for the otherworldly Mexican 
transplant in your Berlin picnic basket, because I am very hungry in 
this moment after a very difficult working day that is not yet 
concluded until 4:00 AM perhaps.


The Italian parsley reminded me a lot of the pungent fragrance of fresh 
coriander leaves, a.k.a. cilantro in Mexico and on occasion referred to 
as culantro ;-) by our conquistador's home country.


Please invite me to the party to make him feel at home if I bring a 
hastily placed raw woolen poncho, some fiery dried chili anchos and 
locally grown pecans, to complete your awe-inspiring visitor's 
nostalgic feast!  After such a long journey from a distant and cooler 
realm, he must recall, that fateful Jovian night accompanied by a 
gibbous Moon on his tail - that he first discovered these flavors upon 
coming to rest.


Thanks for this early special!
Doug

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Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia Group Hunt Report Posted

2011-10-18 Thread Erik Fisler
Thanks for sharing Jim. That iceberg is a pretty one! Congrats on all your 
finds. Wish my professors would cut me a break so I could go out and hunt.
[Erik]

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote:

 Hi All!
 
 I posted my hunt report on the Franconia Birthday Hunt on my webpage below 
 under recent findings.
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Jim
 
 
 
 Jim Wooddell
 https://k7wfr.us
 
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