Re: [meteorite-list] New Website Up and Running
Jason, very nice site indeed! I too have just recently completed a very simple site dealing with meteorites and am sometimes confused with you on the list by others (not sure how that could happen) but wanted to share my site as well. Mine is more of a personal site sharing what I love to do in my spare time. With the key word being spare; having three children, all in different hobbies and sports keeps me busy enough, not to mention being a middle school biology teacher. Please check out my site and provide any and all feedback as it is still a work in progress... Here is the link: www.meteorseeker.com Jason Snyder Amateur Meteorite Hunter (but really nobody important) On Oct 29, 2011, at 3:20 PM, jason utas wrote: Hello All, I've spent the past several months working on a website in my spare time. Unfortunately, it's not as educational as I would have liked yet because I simply haven't had the time to improve the general pages. But there's a reasonable assortment of meteorites for sale, and I did my best with the photos, some of which are pretty cool (you might check out the page for the lunar NWA 6470). I tried to include a little more information and research than is usually put into such things, and turned up some cool facts and stories about some of the specimens being offered. The URL is: www.fallsandfinds.com You'll also find some pieces of new and unusual meteorites as well as pieces of some meteorites not available anywhere else. For those of you waiting for a piece of the recent house-hitter from Poland, I was able to obtain a few grams of Soltmany fragments from a friend who literally drove all night to get to the place of the fall shortly after it occurred. I wasn't really sure what to charge for them since no one else seems to have any for sale, so I compared to a few other recent European falls of similar TKW's. I hope you enjoy the site and pictures and hope to hear from y'all; if you've got some suggestions, I'd love to hear them. I'll be uploading some collection photos soon -- the site is definitely still under construction, so please stay tuned for updates. Thanks, Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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[meteorite-list] test
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[meteorite-list] AD Chondrite and Achondrites
Hi to all . I have some meteorites complet and nice specimens of chondrites and achondrites for sale . if interested feel free to contact me offlist. Best Regards __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hard to Polish Meteorites - Any Ideas? (diamond grit sandpaper?)
Dear List, Sorry, it took so long to get back to you on this. I just got back from a grueling Mojave Desert meteorite hunt which I will get into later. Thank you for the compliments. There is no real secret to good meteorite preparation. I learned the hard way just like anybody else. I found that with time and experience the end product will become better. My experience comes from preparing over 20,000 terrestrial rocks, over 35,000 meteorite specimens and in excess of 10,000 hours on the equipment. Although I have lapidary saws ranging from 4 to 24, I find that my 8 saw is used the most. There is no particular saw blade supplier I like the best and have tried just about every brand available. I avoid cheap Chinese made blades and polishing disks at all costs having had one shatter on me. This brings up an important issue. Always wear safety goggles and use the plexiglass glass shields that come with the equipment. On larger cuts, I find that older well-maintained machines like a Highlands Park do a much better job and are built to last a lifetime. Hydraulic feeds are the best followed by gravity, then worm gear and finally freehand. I freehand a lot of the smaller pieces using a rail and clamp system because I like to feel the work and know when the blade is beginning to bind. That way, if I run into a large piece of metal, I can slow it down. The secret to a good finish is to use every grit until you reach the desired polish. It is important to clean the equipment between grit changes. When approaching the final polish, I continually rotate the piece manually as it is being ground so that there are no swirl marks left by the polishing unit. Do not waste your time with a automatic gravity feed polisher as it will take 8 hours whereas the same task can be completed by manually holding the piece in less than a half hour including grit changes. Wear a mask when polishing as the vapor coming off of the polisher is not good to breath. Finally, I mostly use distilled water as a coolant but will use kerosene or mineral oil if a situation calls for it. Some meteorites have water soluble minerals in them like E-Chondrites and Aubrites. I never dry polish other than metal meteorites because I do not care for the dust which you can taste for days sometimes once it imbeds itself in your sinuses . Gotta go, I hope this is helpful. Kind Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another personal web site with meteorites
I too have just recently completed a very simple site dealing with meteorites and wanted to share my site as well. Mine is more of a personal site sharing what I love to do in my spare time. With the key word being spare; having three children, all in different hobbies and sports keeps me busy enough, not to mention being a middle school biology teacher. Please check out my site and provide any and all feedback as it is still a work in progress... Here is the link: www.meteorseeker.com Jason Snyder Amateur Meteorite Hunter (but really nobody important) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] First men on Moon, Carancas AD.
List, Please check out my ebay listings for an original autographed photo of the first moon walkers. Armstrong, Aldrin and collins at the lowest price ever . Also a nice Carancas fragment. http://www.ebay.com/sch/meteoritemax/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=25_trksid=p3984 Thanks. Carl Meteoritemax Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD
Mark, Doug, All. This chicken or egg question does have an obvious answer because it sounds rather logical whether you are a believer in evolution or not. In fact this same obvious answer could be used to explain away a few million similar questions ( other odd things) if you think about it. It is a particularly good answer if you are involved in the very circular argument as evolution. Because it reinforces the argument itself but , in order to be fact in science proof is required. Otherwise it is but a great theory. I am not arguing against evolution per se. Just saying that sometimes it takes more than a good explanation to make things so. As in all circular arguments there are too many possibly wrong assumptions made to begin with so, it is easy to believe the rest. A one degree navigation error at the beginning of a journey can lead to a huge mistake. If for example for whatever reason you believe that meteorites seeded the Earth with life you might lean towards the belief that all odd things came from different meteorites. Oh and there is the god theory as well. Yet another species of a very different circular argument? Why must all scientific theories agree with previous theories? None of us was around back then so it's not like anyone can prove us wrong! Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp collecting This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting. Carl Meteoritemax Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc wrote: I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one: What came first. The chicken or the egg? Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before hens :) Mark Crawford On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Sterling, Okay. I have some real questions for you. What came first. The chicken or the egg? Seriously! Also, Even if your statements are true. Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive? And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already here? Thanks, Carl Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One. There is NO missing link between Ape and Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub, not a tree. Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens of so-called species. If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is it from ALL of them? For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis? Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes. Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of the Missing Link is one. Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary except for good judgment. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing link. Science knows it will have to do better than that. Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in trees as I recall. Kirk. - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD On NWA 6077 / NWA 5400: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158 It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy the missing link between Ape and Man. Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: John
[meteorite-list] First men on Moon, Carancas AD.
List, Please check out my ebay listings for an original autographed photo of the first moon walkers. Armstrong, Aldrin and collins at the lowest price ever . Also a nice Carancas fragment. http://www.ebay.com/sch/meteoritemax/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=25_trksid=p3984 Thanks. Carl Meteoritemax Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD
I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one: What came first. The chicken or the egg? Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before hens :) Mark Crawford On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Sterling, Okay. I have some real questions for you. What came first. The chicken or the egg? Seriously! Also, Even if your statements are true. Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive? And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already here? Thanks, Carl Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One. There is NO missing link between Ape and Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub, not a tree. Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens of so-called species. If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is it from ALL of them? For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis? Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes. Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of the Missing Link is one. Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary except for good judgment. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing link. Science knows it will have to do better than that. Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in trees as I recall. Kirk. - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD On NWA 6077 / NWA 5400: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158 It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy the missing link between Ape and Man. Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD Dear Meteorite List members, All auctions started @ .99 cents. All winning bidders will receive the New Outer Space Rocks 2012 magnetic meteorite calendar. One per person. All non-auction meteorites 10% OFF FREE SHIPPING. Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com HIGHLIGHTS of auctions include many new and exciting rare meteorite types professionally presented with provenance: NWA 6868 (5.3g Part Slice) Introducing a gorgeous Provisionally classified LL6 Breccia meteorite. Recrystallized, mostly poikiloblastic clasts containing rare relict chondrule fragments in a matrix of related debris. The presence of some recognizable RP chondrule fragments in NWA 6868 makes it a Type 6 - otherwise it would be an LL metachondrite. The necessary precautions were taken while cutting to ensure you have a nice stable specimen, this slice is polished on one side with no unsightly saw marks.( http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6868-LL6-Chondrite-Breccia-Meteorite-5-3g-PS-/380378898246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5890595f46 ) NWA 6284 (8.9g Part Slice) Introducing a new Officially classified L5 meteorite with some distinct chondrules. Olivine (Fa24.7-25.1), orthopyroxene (Fs20.4-21.2Wo4.2-1.9). clinopyroxene (Fs7.5-7.8Wo46.6-43.8), sodic plagioclase, chromite, altered kamacite and troilite.This is a beautiful specimen from a very fresh meteorite with a weathering level of only 1/2 and a very modest Total known weight of only 1021g This is a gorgeous part slice with wide surface area
Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual inclusion in Muonionalusta slice
I have cut muonio and Nantan with same feature, it is terrestrial replacement of triolite nodule. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Mirko that did cross my mind tooperhaps Mike can tell us if that was possible as he knew the piece before cuttingwas the inclusion exposed enough at thge surface for that to have happened? On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Mike, that looks really unusual and interesting. But I can see no chondrules. I think there was a hole in the iron (rendered troilite - similar Mundrabilla). In this hole, then sand and sediment has been deposited. After the cutting of the iron, it looks like an inclusion. But this is only a guess. Best regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) Von: Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Gesendet: 8:47 Samstag, 29.Oktober 2011 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Unusual inclusion in Muonionalusta slice Hello everyone I have been cutting irons for years and never really noticed an inclusion like this in an iron before. It is a Muonionalusta slice and reminds me of a stone meteoritethe inclusion that is. Most of the time an inclusion is a single color. like a trolite. This one seems to have inclusions in the inclusion? Maybe they are common and I just never noticed before? Insight would be appreciated. Thanks for your input. http://www.meteoritefinder.com/catalog/inclusion.htm -- Mike Miller 3835 E Nicole Ave Kingman Az 86409 www.meteoritefinder.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test 2 - Delete
I have problems sending mails, only to met -list. David __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin...
Hello list, A few weeks ago I bought a NWA869 thin section from an eBay seller. The seller is not Mirko Graul (excellent thin section seller, excellent person, my favorite thin section provider) nor any known thin section seller of this list, OK ? When received it looked darker than usual and after measuring thickness it was 100 micrometers instead of 30. I just contacted the seller to prevent it from selling more thin sections like this and having problems with costumers, but in a educational and collaborative way, as I think he was new in thin sections and did not know about the problem. The thin section was really cheap, so I keep it, no problem. Ok, well, my help claim is because I want to grind that thin section to 30 micrometers and I think the best way is to do it the same way as I did when I grind my telescope mirror, using a second glass as a grinding tool. Any suggestions? Do I use carborundum 2000 or Aluminium Oxide? Thank you. David Allepuz Corbera de Llobregat Catalonia -SPAIN www.meteorits.cat www.cazameteoritos.es __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD
H Old post, same question http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg97258 .html Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark's Meteorites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:56 AM To: cdtuc...@cox.net Cc: Sterling K. Webb; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one: What came first. The chicken or the egg? Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before hens :) Mark Crawford On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Sterling, Okay. I have some real questions for you. What came first. The chicken or the egg? Seriously! Also, Even if your statements are true. Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive? And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already here? Thanks, Carl Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One. There is NO missing link between Ape and Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub, not a tree. Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens of so-called species. If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is it from ALL of them? For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis? Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes. Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of the Missing Link is one. Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary except for good judgment. Sterling K. Webb - -- - Original Message - From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing link. Science knows it will have to do better than that. Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in trees as I recall. Kirk. - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD On NWA 6077 / NWA 5400: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158 It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy the missing link between Ape and Man. Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD Dear Meteorite List members, All auctions started @ .99 cents. All winning bidders will receive the New Outer Space Rocks 2012 magnetic meteorite calendar. One per person. All non-auction meteorites 10% OFF FREE SHIPPING. Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com HIGHLIGHTS of auctions include many new and exciting rare meteorite types professionally presented with provenance: NWA 6868 (5.3g Part Slice) Introducing a gorgeous Provisionally classified LL6 Breccia meteorite. Recrystallized, mostly poikiloblastic clasts containing rare relict chondrule fragments in a matrix of related debris. The presence of some recognizable RP chondrule fragments in NWA 6868 makes it a Type 6 - otherwise it would be an LL metachondrite. The necessary precautions were taken while cutting to ensure you have a nice stable specimen, this slice is polished on one side with no unsightly saw marks.( http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6868-LL6-Chondrite-Breccia-Meteorite-5-3g-PS
[meteorite-list] AD: MAUERKIRCHEN 1768 - VERY RARE Historic European Fall (20 Nov. 1768)
Dear list members I have an auction for collectors of rare historic meteorites ending on EBAY in TWO HOURS. For sale is a very nice and affordable fragment of a very hard to get historic meteorite from the 18th Century: Have a look if you like. http://shop.ebay.com/karmaka/m.html MAUERKIRCHEN 1768 Fall (BAVARIA/AUSTRIA) !! - VERY RARE witnessed historic fall (November 20, 1768) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAUERKIRCHEN-1768-VERY-RARE-Historic-Meteorite-Fall-/320783355728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ab02d8f50 MAUERKIRCHEN has a low distribution in collections worldwide and is very rarely offered.MAUERKIRCHEN is one of very few meteorite falls from the 18th century still preserved today. In a letter to Ernst Chladni 'Hofrath' [councilor] Mr. Blumenbach wrote the following about the Mauerkirchen fall: In the evening, after 4 pm, of November 20, 1768, in the presence of a noticable dark sky in the Occident, several honest people, who have been questioned under oath, heard an unusual roar and a forceful bang in the air. It was similar to a thunder and shooting ofcannons. In the middle of this turmoil a stone fell from the air onto the field of the mercenary Georg Bart. It was confirmed by the authorities that this stone, making a hole of 2.5 feet [~ 75 cm] depth, was 6 inches [~15 cm] wide and weighed 38 Bavarian pounds. It is of soft matter so that it can be crumbled with the fingers. The color is bluish, mixed up with some white paste. On top of this it is covered with black bark. (translated from 'Annalen der Physik', Vol. 15, pages 316-317, published in 1803) old picture: http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/test/mauerkirchen2.JPG The meteorite comes with a copy of the ID card of the very well-known and respected dealer I acquired this fragment from. Have a very nice Sunday ! Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger specimens in ASU collection.
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Re: [meteorite-list] H. H. Nininger specimens in ASU collection.
Hi Listers, Which meteorite specimen numbers, in the Arizona State University Meteorite Collection, are H. H. Nininger Meteorites? Please send a PM if anyone can help. Davio Ribeca __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD
Carl wrote: Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp collecting This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting. Hi Carl ;-), Are your suggesting that chicken arrived on meteorites, along with its chickenfeed? If I were to adopt your form of arguing (which I am not), Perhaps chondrules are just fossilized chicken poop? Rutherford had to be a real pompous ass to say something like that --- but even if he probably was, you have misinterpreted his meaning. He would consider nearly the entire field of meteoritics stamp collecting, and I speaking for myself thoroughly enjoy stamp collecting as well as chemistry (Chemistry was his real stamp collecting target if you understood the context of the original quote). To generalize a theory like evolution as circular ignores the reality of how every domesticated animal and vegetable got on the dinner plate or farm! It is not only testable; it is applied and practical, though not gospel in a scientific sense. Evolution has been demonstrated and is robustly testable, unlike some of the other questions you try to compare with it by analogizing. You are suggesting that we are begging the question, but the analogy you use itself attempts to make an inaccurate caricature of the scientific method. The use of the Rutherford attributed quote is baloney in its fullest extent - an appeal to a non-existent authority and caricature to the extreme to the efforts of others who are using the scientific method productively. I.e., Some topologists really can tell the their coffee mug from their donut! Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: cdtucson cdtuc...@cox.net To: Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc Cc: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:03 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD Mark, Doug, All. This chicken or egg question does have an obvious answer because it sounds rather logical whether you are a believer in evolution or not. In fact this same obvious answer could be used to explain away a few million similar questions ( other odd things) if you think about it. It is a particularly good answer if you are involved in the very circular argument as evolution. Because it reinforces the argument itself but , in order to be fact in science proof is required. Otherwise it is but a great theory. I am not arguing against evolution per se. Just saying that sometimes it takes more than a good explanation to make things so. As in all circular arguments there are too many possibly wrong assumptions made to begin with so, it is easy to believe the rest. A one degree navigation error at the beginning of a journey can lead to a huge mistake. If for example for whatever reason you believe that meteorites seeded the Earth with life you might lean towards the belief that all odd things came from different meteorites. Oh and there is the god theory as well. Yet another species of a very different circular argument? Why must all scientific theories agree with previous theories? None of us was around back then so it's not like anyone can prove us wrong! Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp collecting This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting. Carl Meteoritemax Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc wrote: I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one: What came first. The chicken or the egg? Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before hens :) Mark Crawford On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Sterling, Okay. I have some real questions for you. What came first. The chicken or the egg? Seriously! Also, Even if your statements are true. Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive? And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already here? Thanks, Carl Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One. There is NO missing link between Ape and Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub, not a tree. Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens of so-called species. If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is it from ALL of them? For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is H. sap.
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin...
As a ebay seller of thin sections I thought that I would respond to this. I should point out that it wasnt me that David bought his thin section from, I dont know who he bought them from, dont know anything about his thin section and am in no way commenting on any other seller when I write this. It should be pointed out that in order to be a Thin Section it does not have to be 30 microns. Thin Sections are extensively used by various scientific and commercial organizations for various purposes and in particular mining and petroleum companies make great use of thin sections. Depending on what you are trying to do different thickness's might be most useful. For meteorite classification purposes it must be 30 microns as the light will be different from what it is supposed to be if it is some other thickness (All of my own thin sections are 30 microns). There are other standard thicknesses and 100 microns I believe is the most common (And possibly cheapest to make). 50 and 200 micron thickness thin sections are also standard thicknesses (But meteorite people rarely would want one this thickness). We on this list are most familiar with 30 microns because thats the thickness thats needed for meteorite classifications. If you were working as a geologists with a petroleum company you might be more familiar with 100 micron thin sections. I suspect that the thin section David bought was made to a different standard than for what you usually need for meteorites. It would be odd to be exactly another standard thickness if it was just a poor job. (For example if it was say 85 microns I would probably say that it was a poor job as probably nobody would ever make a thin section that thickness no matter what the planned use was) I would also like to comment on the price of thin sections. You will notice that my meteorite thin sections are priced cheaper than most other sellers (Started on ebay as low as $29.95). When I left Canada 7 years ago I left a container of stuff in storage which I only got earlier this year. Since it was all paid for more than half a decade ago I am selling off a lot of it with no regard to my cost or replacement value. My thin sections fall in this catagory. I cant replace thin sections and make money at $29.95. I will not get into a slugging match by saying mine are better than other people and you should pay more for mine because of that but if you do see thin sections cheaper than what I currently have listed I would be suspicion and ask questions before I buy. Its possible that somebody in a country where labour is cheaper can make them cheaper than me (Although I would love to know if anybody does find a place) Questions that you should ask are: (1) Thickness. Are they 30 micrions, 100 micron or some other thickness (I am assuming that the seller would know this) (2) Are they Polished? Unpolished thin setions can easily be made for under $20. It costs as much to polish them as it does to cut them. Both have their uses but polished ones are twice as expensive (And needed if you want to get the meteorite classified). (3) Do they have a cover slip? If you will carbon coat them and put them in a microprobe (Needed if you buy one of my Thin scetion kits on ebay and send it for classification) you DO NOT want a cover slip. If you are just using them with a standard microscope and showing them in schools you might want the cover slip so it wont get scratched. Hope this helps somebody Sincerely DEAN (AMUNRE on ebay) http://stores.ebay.com/The-AmunRe-Museum/_i.html?_nkw=thin+sectionsubmit=Search_sid=1598024 --- On Sun, 30/10/11, David Allepuz dalle...@telefonica.net wrote: From: David Allepuz dalle...@telefonica.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin... To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Received: Sunday, 30 October, 2011, 12:46 PM Hello list, A few weeks ago I bought a NWA869 thin section from an eBay seller. The seller is not Mirko Graul (excellent thin section seller, excellent person, my favorite thin section provider) nor any known thin section seller of this list, OK ? When received it looked darker than usual and after measuring thickness it was 100 micrometers instead of 30. I just contacted the seller to prevent it from selling more thin sections like this and having problems with costumers, but in a educational and collaborative way, as I think he was new in thin sections and did not know about the problem. The thin section was really cheap, so I keep it, no problem. Ok, well, my help claim is because I want to grind that thin section to 30 micrometers and I think the best way is to do it the same way as I did when I grind my telescope mirror, using a second glass as a grinding tool. Any suggestions? Do I use carborundum 2000 or Aluminium Oxide? Thank you. David Allepuz Corbera de Llobregat Catalonia -SPAIN www.meteorits.cat www.cazameteoritos.es
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Re: [meteorite-list] H. H. Nininger specimens in ASU collection.
Hi Davio, There are a lot of specimens in the ASU Collection that were Nininger's. He sold the other 2/3's of his main collection to ASU and it was the basis of their collection from which they have expanded. A total of 684 Nininger specimens were listed by ASU after purchase. I'd hate to type those out, though it would be a nice group to have a catalog listing of. I'd suggest looking at the resources on the ASU and see if they have such a catalog. If not they may have a listing they could provide for you if you were to ask them. Good luck and all my best to you! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Davio L. Ribeca dav...@comcast.net To: MET-LIST - Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] H. H. Nininger specimens in ASU collection. Hi Listers, Which meteorite specimen numbers, in the Arizona State University Meteorite Collection, are H. H. Nininger Meteorites? Please send a PM if anyone can help. Davio Ribeca __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin...
think the best way is to do it the same way as I did when I grind my telescope mirror, using a second glass as a grinding tool Any suggestions? Hola David I've never ground a meteorite TS myself, but a while back I was in our local geology department watching the technicans make a bunch of them. It was basically on a massive slow rotating flat lap that had a huge motor and the plate might as well be glass I suppose though you've got to wonder if it will wear evenly which must be the trick to finishing off a decent thin section. Anyway, like telescope grinding it takes a long time but unlike telescope grinding there is no naturally corrective spherical effect to save you to get your first approximated curve (or in this case flat). He just took the appropriate grits and he did nice figure eights if recall with the wrist, and invited me to participate. But it got boring pretty quickly so the memory is foggy ;-) Atentos saludos and say hi to Esmeralda for me! (you're one of the three Iberian Cazameteorito buddies - aren't you?) Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:05 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin... As a ebay seller of thin sections I thought that I would respond to this. I should point out that it wasnt me that David bought his thin section from, I dont know who he bought them from, dont know anything about his thin section and am in no way commenting on any other seller when I write this. It should be pointed out that in order to be a Thin Section it does not have to be 30 microns. Thin Sections are extensively used by various scientific and commercial organizations for various purposes and in particular mining and petroleum companies make great use of thin sections. Depending on what you are trying to do different thickness's might be most useful. For meteorite classification purposes it must be 30 microns as the light will be different from what it is supposed to be if it is some other thickness (All of my own thin sections are 30 microns). There are other standard thicknesses and 100 microns I believe is the most common (And possibly cheapest to make). 50 and 200 micron thickness thin sections are also standard thicknesses (But meteorite people rarely would want one this thickness). We on this list are most familiar with 30 microns because thats the thickness thats needed for meteorite classifications. If you were working as a geologists with a petroleum company you might be more familiar with 100 micron thin sections. I suspect that the thin section David bought was made to a different standard than for what you usually need for meteorites. It would be odd to be exactly another standard thickness if it was just a poor job. (For example if it was say 85 microns I would probably say that it was a poor job as probably nobody would ever make a thin section that thickness no matter what the planned use was) I would also like to comment on the price of thin sections. You will notice that my meteorite thin sections are priced cheaper than most other sellers (Started on ebay as low as $29.95). When I left Canada 7 years ago I left a container of stuff in storage which I only got earlier this year. Since it was all paid for more than half a decade ago I am selling off a lot of it with no regard to my cost or replacement value. My thin sections fall in this catagory. I cant replace thin sections and make money at $29.95. I will not get into a slugging match by saying mine are better than other people and you should pay more for mine because of that but if you do see thin sections cheaper than what I currently have listed I would be suspicion and ask questions before I buy. Its possible that somebody in a country where labour is cheaper can make them cheaper than me (Although I would love to know if anybody does find a place) Questions that you should ask are: (1) Thickness. Are they 30 micrions, 100 micron or some other thickness (I am assuming that the seller would know this) (2) Are they Polished? Unpolished thin setions can easily be made for under $20. It costs as much to polish them as it does to cut them. Both have their uses but polished ones are twice as expensive (And needed if you want to get the meteorite classified). (3) Do they have a cover slip? If you will carbon coat them and put them in a microprobe (Needed if you buy one of my Thin scetion kits on ebay and send it for classification) you DO NOT want a cover slip. If you are just using them with a standard microscope and showing them in schools you might want the cover slip so it wont get scratched. Hope this helps somebody Sincerely DEAN (AMUNRE on ebay) http://stores.ebay.com/The-AmunRe-Museum/_i.html?_nkw=thin+sectionsubmit=Search_sid=1598024 --- On Sun, 30/10/11, David Allepuz dalle...@telefonica.net
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin...
PS--- Looks like Richard Hill has all the answers you asked: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~rhill/fossil/thnsect.html kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: dallepuz dalle...@telefonica.net; Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 7:52 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin... think the best way is to do it the same way as I did when I grind my telescope mirror, using a second glass as a grinding tool Any suggestions? Hola David I've never ground a meteorite TS myself, but a while back I was in our local geology department watching the technicans make a bunch of them. It was basically on a massive slow rotating flat lap that had a huge motor and the plate might as well be glass I suppose though you've got to wonder if it will wear evenly which must be the trick to finishing off a decent thin section. Anyway, like telescope grinding it takes a long time but unlike telescope grinding there is no naturally corrective spherical effect to save you to get your first approximated curve (or in this case flat). He just took the appropriate grits and he did nice figure eights if recall with the wrist, and invited me to participate. But it got boring pretty quickly so the memory is foggy ;-) Atentos saludos and say hi to Esmeralda for me! (you're one of the three Iberian Cazameteorito buddies - aren't you?) Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 6:05 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section not so thin... As a ebay seller of thin sections I thought that I would respond to this. I should point out that it wasnt me that David bought his thin section from, I dont know who he bought them from, dont know anything about his thin section and am in no way commenting on any other seller when I write this. It should be pointed out that in order to be a Thin Section it does not have to be 30 microns. Thin Sections are extensively used by various scientific and commercial organizations for various purposes and in particular mining and petroleum companies make great use of thin sections. Depending on what you are trying to do different thickness's might be most useful. For meteorite classification purposes it must be 30 microns as the light will be different from what it is supposed to be if it is some other thickness (All of my own thin sections are 30 microns). There are other standard thicknesses and 100 microns I believe is the most common (And possibly cheapest to make). 50 and 200 micron thickness thin sections are also standard thicknesses (But meteorite people rarely would want one this thickness). We on this list are most familiar with 30 microns because thats the thickness thats needed for meteorite classifications. If you were working as a geologists with a petroleum company you might be more familiar with 100 micron thin sections. I suspect that the thin section David bought was made to a different standard than for what you usually need for meteorites. It would be odd to be exactly another standard thickness if it was just a poor job. (For example if it was say 85 microns I would probably say that it was a poor job as probably nobody would ever make a thin section that thickness no matter what the planned use was) I would also like to comment on the price of thin sections. You will notice that my meteorite thin sections are priced cheaper than most other sellers (Started on ebay as low as $29.95). When I left Canada 7 years ago I left a container of stuff in storage which I only got earlier this year. Since it was all paid for more than half a decade ago I am selling off a lot of it with no regard to my cost or replacement value. My thin sections fall in this catagory. I cant replace thin sections and make money at $29.95. I will not get into a slugging match by saying mine are better than other people and you should pay more for mine because of that but if you do see thin sections cheaper than what I currently have listed I would be suspicion and ask questions before I buy. Its possible that somebody in a country where labour is cheaper can make them cheaper than me (Although I would love to know if anybody does find a place) Questions that you should ask are: (1) Thickness. Are they 30 micrions, 100 micron or some other thickness (I am assuming that the seller would know this) (2) Are they Polished? Unpolished thin setions can easily be made for under $20. It costs as much to polish them as it does to cut them. Both have their uses but polished ones are twice as expensive (And needed if you want to get the meteorite classified). (3) Do they have a cover slip? If you will carbon coat them and put them in a microprobe (Needed if you buy one of my Thin scetion kits on ebay and send it for classification) you DO NOT want a cover slip. If you are just using them with a
[meteorite-list] Way off topic! Campo Witch and Canyon Man Halloween Fun
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[meteorite-list] OT: Brings new meaning to I got a rock...
Charlie Brown would make out well at your house: the one kid who'd get a rock for his costume! I'd take a Yelland over a Snickers bar any day... :-) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:44 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Way off topic! Campo Witch and Canyon ManHalloween Fun Hi List, For those of you who enjoy Halloween, here is a link for you! Sonny Georgia http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Canyon_man.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
