[meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera

2011-11-03 Thread Steve Schoner


I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the valuable data
that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's detected tell 
us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should the United States 
ever return and complete what we should have done decades ago. And in a way it 
does relate to our quest of and classification of lunar meteorites, without 
that data that they brought back, comparisons and identifications of lunar 
meteorites would be harder than they are now.

The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man to set 
foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for having and wanting 
to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been destroyed on the Moon.

All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items from the 
LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's approval at 
the time of the mission.

So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to auction it 
in his now 80 years of life.

NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that duress he
surrendered the camera.

This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of Freedom,  And
the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for treating him 
so.

So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for public action 
to rectify this disgrace.

First see this one as background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

Then my video with a call for action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to their 
loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia. 

And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have such 
artifacts.

I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was given to 
me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I won in an Ebay 
auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being bought,sold and 
auctioned are in the same category, no records of transfer.

It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets my trust 
in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if there are things 
more important than improving our economy and doing some good for all.

Steve

P.S. Hope I have not taxed anyone with my long OT post.


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera

2011-11-03 Thread John Lutzon

Hello Steve, All

Dr. Mitchell lives about 10 miles from me. I for one will be contacting our
local reps on his behalf.

The Zag arrived just fine.

John

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I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the valuable
data
that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's detected
tell us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should the
United States ever return and complete what we should have done decades
ago. And in a way it does relate to our quest of and classification of
lunar meteorites, without that data that they brought back, comparisons
and identifications of lunar meteorites would be harder than they are now.

The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man to
set foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for having
and wanting to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been destroyed
on the Moon.

All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items from
the LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's
approval at the time of the mission.

So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to
auction it in his now 80 years of life.

NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that
duress he
surrendered the camera.

This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of
Freedom,  And
the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for treating
him so.

So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for public
action to rectify this disgrace.

First see this one as background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

Then my video with a call for action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to
their loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia.

And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have such
artifacts.

I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was
given to me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I won in
an Ebay auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being
bought,sold and auctioned are in the same category, no records of
transfer.

It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets my
trust in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if there
are things more important than improving our economy and doing some good
for all.

Steve

P.S. Hope I have not taxed anyone with my long OT post.


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-11-03 Thread valparint
Gao Guenie

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (Gao-Guenie)

2011-11-03 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp

Hitchhiking chondrules :-)

Beautiful, breathtaking, stunning!

Thanks, Paul and Gary, for sharing this Gao-Guenie
vehicle on wheels with the Meteorite Community!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-11-03 Thread John Lutzon

ummm, suddenly, i have the urge for sauteed mushrooms for breakfast.

Super pic, thanks.

John
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Gao Guenie

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-11-03 Thread David R Childs

It's a pobble! (Edward Lear)
Great Pic.
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera

2011-11-03 Thread David R Childs

Shame on Nasa. To do this to a great man is a travesty.
I have left my comment on YouTube.

David R Childs
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:22 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera





I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the valuable 
data

that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's detected 
tell us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should the 
United States ever return and complete what we should have done decades 
ago. And in a way it does relate to our quest of and classification of 
lunar meteorites, without that data that they brought back, comparisons 
and identifications of lunar meteorites would be harder than they are now.


The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man to 
set foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for having 
and wanting to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been destroyed 
on the Moon.


All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items from 
the LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's 
approval at the time of the mission.


So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to 
auction it in his now 80 years of life.


NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that 
duress he

surrendered the camera.

This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of 
Freedom,  And
the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for treating 
him so.


So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for public 
action to rectify this disgrace.


First see this one as background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

Then my video with a call for action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to 
their loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia.


And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have such 
artifacts.


I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was 
given to me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I won in 
an Ebay auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being 
bought,sold and auctioned are in the same category, no records of 
transfer.


It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets my 
trust in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if there 
are things more important than improving our economy and doing some good 
for all.


Steve

P.S. Hope I have not taxed anyone with my long OT post.


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera

2011-11-03 Thread MexicoDoug
Shame, Shame, Shame.  Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave, 
being a champion of alloidal ownership of (real) property.  The 
Bavarians had it right when they established (1813) _Nullum crimen, 
nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali_ and luckily internationally 
this is the precedent applied.  So Mitchell should have given it away 
to a foreign collector and he would have been in the clear.


Besides the obvious connection to space traveling merchandise, this is 
of concern to all US collectors for understanding what the government 
can and can't regulate ex-post facto.


Administrative Agencies such as NASA have the ability to distort 
retroactively the interpretation of the law, such as the present case 
with abandoned property - the camera - (vs. eminent domain for real 
property); The US Supreme Court, in setting a landmark precedent ruled 
in 1928:


...The power to require readjustments for the past is drastic. [It may 
reasonably exist in cases where the particular rate has been approved 
by the Commission after full hearing;] it ought not to be extended so 
as to permit unreasonably harsh action without very plain words


BRIMSTONE R.  CANAL CO. v. UNITED STATES et. al., 276 US 104 (1928); 
276 US 104

No. 240 Argued Oct. 10, 11, 1927; Decided Feb. 20, 1928.

Kindest wishes
Doug




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Shame on Nasa. To do this to a great man is a travesty.
I have left my comment on YouTube.

David R Childs
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC 
Camera






I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the 

valuable

data
that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's 

detected
tell us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should 

the
United States ever return and complete what we should have done 

decades
ago. And in a way it does relate to our quest of and classification 

of
lunar meteorites, without that data that they brought back, 

comparisons
and identifications of lunar meteorites would be harder than they are 

now.


The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man 

to
set foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for 

having
and wanting to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been 

destroyed

on the Moon.

All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items 

from

the LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's
approval at the time of the mission.

So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to
auction it in his now 80 years of life.

NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that
duress he
surrendered the camera.

This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of
Freedom,  And
the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for 

treating

him so.

So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for 

public

action to rectify this disgrace.

First see this one as background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

Then my video with a call for action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to
their loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia.

And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have 

such

artifacts.

I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was
given to me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I 

won in

an Ebay auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being
bought,sold and auctioned are in the same category, no records of
transfer.

It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets 

my
trust in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if 

there
are things more important than improving our economy and doing some 

good

for all.

Steve

P.S. Hope I have not taxed anyone with my long OT post.


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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - November 2, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
November 2, 2011

o Lava Flow Constricted between Topographic Obstacles   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_020580_2035

  This constriction seems to have disrupted the flow and produced a 
  platy-ridged surface on the down-flow side of the constriction point.

o Brain-Coral Texture on Crater Floor   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_023649_1360

  This crater floor has a hummocky texture (brain-coral-like), and 
  curved structures, possibly from glacial-like flow.

o Gullies with Varied Shapes on a Crater Wall   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_023665_1410

  A couple of gullies in this image are unusual because a segment in the 
  middle becomes wider than the upslope segment, and then narrows again 
downslope.

o The Eastern Floor of Aram Chaos   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_024266_1830

  The interplay between the dunes, eroded landforms and the various other 
  light and dark-toned materials provides clues to the relative ages of the 
  geologic processes and the nature of the materials.


All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Dawn Journal - October 31, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_10_31_11.asp

Dawn Journal
Dr. Marc Rayman
October 31, 2011

Dear Dawnderfuls,

Dawn has completed another wonderfully successful phase of its
exploration of Vesta, studying it in unprecedented detail during the
past month. From the time of its discovery more than two centuries ago
until just a few months ago, this protoplanet appeared as hardly more
than a fuzzy blob, an indistinct fleck in the sky. Now Dawn has mapped
it with exquisite clarity, revealing a fascinatingly complex alien world.

The high altitude mapping orbit (HAMO) includes the most intensive and
thorough imaging of the entire year Dawn will reside at Vesta.
Spectacular as the results from survey orbit were, the observations from 
HAMO are significantly better. From four times closer to the surface, 
Dawn's sensors provided much better views
of the extraordinary surface of craters large and small, tremendous
mountains, valleys, towering cliffs, ridges, smooth and flat regions,
gently rolling plains, systems of extensive troughs, many clusters of
smaller grooves, immense landslides, enormous boulders, materials that
are unusually bright and others that are unusually dark (sometimes
adjacent to each other), and myriad other dramatic and intriguing
features. There is no reason to try to capture in words what visual
creatures like humans can best appreciate in pictures. To see the sites,
which literally are out of this world, either go to Vesta or go here
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imageoftheday/archives.asp.

Circling the colossus 680 kilometers (420 miles) beneath it in HAMO, the
probe has spent most of its time over the illuminated side taking
pictures and other scientific measurements and most of the time over the
dark side beaming its precious findings back to eager Earthlings.

Dawn revolves in a polar orbit around Vesta, passing above the north
pole, then traveling over the day side to the south pole, and then
soaring north over the night side. Each circuit takes 12.3 hours.
Meanwhile, Vesta completes a rotation on its axis every 5.3 hours.
Mission planners choreographed this beautiful cosmic pas de deux by
choosing the orbital parameters so that in 10 orbits, nearly every part
of the lit surface would come within the camera's field of view.
(Because it is northern hemisphere winter on that world, a region around
the north pole is hidden in the deep dark of night. Its appearance in
Dawn's pictures will have to wait for HAMO2.) A set of 10 orbits is known 
to Dawn team members (and now to you) as a mapping cycle.

Although the HAMO phase was extremely complex, it was executed almost
flawlessly, following remarkably well the intricate plan worked out in
great detail last year.  It consisted
of six mapping cycles, and they were conducted in order of their overall
importance. In the first cycle, Dawn aimed its camera straight down and
took pictures with all of the instrument's color filters.
In addition to showing the startling
diversity of exotic features, the color images provide scientists some
information about the composition of the surface materials, which
display an impressive variation on this mysterious protoplanet. Cycle 1
yielded more than 2500 photos of Vesta, nearly as many as were acquired
in the entire survey orbit phase. These
observations were deemed so important that not only were they first, but
cycle 6 was designed to acquire nearly the same data. This strategy was
formulated so that if problems precluded the successful mapping in cycle
1, there would be a second chance without requiring the small and busy
operations team to make new plans. As it turned out, there were only
minor glitches that interfered with some of the pictures in cycle 1, but
the losses were not important. Nevertheless, cycle 6 did fill in most of
the missing views.

Cycles 2 through 5 were devoted to acquiring images needed to develop a
topographical map. Instead of flying over the sunlit side with its
camera pointed straight down, the spacecraft looked at an angle. Each
direction was chosen to provide scientists the best combination of
perspective and illumination to build up a three dimensional picture of
the surface. Knowing the elevations of different features and the angles
of slopes is essential to understanding the geological processes that
shaped them.

In cycle 2, the camera constantly was directed at the terrain ahead and
a little to the left of the point directly below the spacecraft. Cycle
3, in contrast, looked back and slightly to the left. Cycle 4 pointed
straight ahead but by a smaller angle than in cycle 2. Cycle 5 did not
look forward or backwards; it only observed the surface to the right.
With the extensive stereo coverage in each of these 10-orbit mapping
cycles, most of the terrain now has been photographed from enough
different directions that the detailed shape of the alien landscape can
be determined.

The HAMO observations constitute the most comprehensive visible mapping

[meteorite-list] NPP/MSL update - November 3, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke


Nov. 3, 2011

George H. Diller
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
george.h.dil...@nasa.gov

STATUS REPORT: ELV-110311

EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLE STATUS REPORT

Spacecraft: NPP (NPOESS Preparatory Project)
Launch Vehicle: Delta II 7920
Launch Site: Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.
Launch Pad: Space Launch Complex 2
Launch Date: Oct. 28, 2011
Launch Time: 2:48:01.828 a.m. PDT 
Orbital Altitude: 512 miles 

At Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., the liftoff of the Delta II 
rocket carrying NASA's NPP spacecraft occurred at 2:48:01.828 a.m. 
PDT. Spacecraft separation from the second stage of the rocket 
occurred 58 minutes after launch at 3:46 a.m. The spacecraft's solar 
arrays successfully deployed 67 minutes after liftoff and immediately 
began supplying power to the 4,994-pound satellite. Then, at 4:26 
a.m. PDT, the deployment sequence began for the six CubeSat research 
satellites from four universities as elements of the Educational 
Launch of Nanosatellite (ELaNa) missions.

NPP represents a critical first step in building the next-generation 
of Earth-observing satellites. NPP will carry the first of the new 
sensors developed for this satellite fleet, now known as the Joint 
Polar Satellite System (JPSS), to be launched in 2016. NPP is the 
bridge between NASA's Earth Observing System (EOS) satellites and the 
forthcoming series of JPSS satellites. The mission will test key 
technologies and instruments for the JPSS missions. 


Spacecraft: Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity)
Launch Vehicle: Atlas V-541 (AV-028)
Launch Site: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla.
Launch Pad: Space Launch Complex 41
Launch Date: Nov. 25, 2011
Launch Time: 10:25 a.m. EST 

The Mars Science Laboratory was moved from NASA Kennedy Space Center's 
Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility (PHSF) to Space Launch Complex 
41 during the early morning of Nov. 3 and hoisted atop the Atlas V. 
MSL was hoisted atop the payload transporter in the PHSF on Nov. 2 
after being integrated into the Atlas V rocket payload fairing.

Curiosity has 10 science instruments to search for evidence about 
whether Mars has had environments favorable for microbial life, 
including chemical ingredients for life. The unique rover will use a 
laser to look inside rocks and release the gasses so that its 
spectrometer can analyze and send the data back to Earth. 

Previous status reports are available at:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/status/index.html 

-end-

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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: October 26 - November 01, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE:  On the Lookout for Light-Toned Material - 
sols 2757-2763, October 26 - November 01, 2011:

The seasonal plan for Opportunity is to winter over on the north end of
Cape York on the rim of Endeavour crater where northerly tilts are
favorable for solar array energy production.

As such, the project has been driving the rover towards the north end of
the cape with a route along the west side that creates opportunities for
science along the way. The science team is on the lookout for veins of
light-toned material and has found some.

On Sol 2758 (Oct. 27, 2011), Opportunity traveled north/northwest about
180 feet (55 meters) heading toward a geologic contact that borders Cape
York on the west. The next drive on Sol 2760 (Oct. 29, 2011), moved the
rover roughly north to the contact. Imagery from the end of the Sol 2760
drive showed these light-toned veins the science team was searching for,
one just a few feet (meters) in front of the rover. On Sol 2763 (Nov. 1,
2011), Opportunity bumped 12 feet (3.7 meters) placing this light-toned
vein, called Homestake within reach of the rover's robotic arm. The
plan ahead is to collect some Microscopic Imager (MI) images of the vein
and place the Alpha Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS) on the vein
itself for an overnight integration.

As of Sol 2763 (Nov. 1, 2011), solar array energy production was 304
watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.752 and a solar array
dust factor of 0.494.

Total odometry is 21.25 miles (34,199.25 meters, or 34.20 kilometers).
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[meteorite-list] EPOXI Mission Status Report - October 20, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://epoxi.umd.edu/1mission/status.shtml

EPOXI Mission Status Report
Michael A'Hearn
October 20, 2011

The spacecraft went through a cool-down period at the end of
September to optimize the capabilities of the near-IR spectrometer and
to carry out a Trajectory Correction Maneuver (TCM). This maneuver
changed our target point based on our improved knowledge of the position
of the comet relative to the spacecraft. We think that the new target
point will be within 100-200 km of the desired flyby point (which is 700
km from the nucleus). We expect our next and final TCM to be on October
27. We have a contingency plan for a TCM on November 2 in case the
previous TCM does not perform as expected.

We have been receiving Hartley 2 data from a variety of other spacecraft
and collaborators. The WISE mission released data acquired in May.
Those data will be useful in understanding the onset of activity by the comet 
as it approaches the sun in its orbit. Weaver et al. released
Hubble Space Telescope images acquired on September 25. The HST images
are particularly valuable because they allowed us to confirm that the
cometary nucleus is separable from the coma. Eventually, we will be able
to separate the nucleus from the coma within our own data. For now, HST
has a huge advantage over our own cameras in this respect due to the
much larger aperture of HST coupled with the fact that Earth and HST
were much closer to the comet than was our spacecraft. These data are
consistent with earlier determinations of the size of the nucleus.

We have also been receiving widespread reports of jets in the coma of
the comet. The first such report was from Matthew Knight and colleagues
http://www.lowell.edu/rsch/content/comets/hartley2/hartley2.html at
Lowell Observatory who found jets in the gas (the unstable radical CN)
but not in the dust during an August observing run . Since then, we have
had more recent reports of jets from both professional and amateur
observers.

Since the Deep Impact spacecraft has its cameras dedicated to monitoring
Hartley 2 during this phase of the mission, we now have an advantage
over other observatories and telescopes because we have nearly
continuous coverage (16 out of every 24 hours). We too see fluctuations
and jet-like structures in our data that are presumed to be due to
variations in the release of dust and gas as the nucleus rotates. More
excitingly, we have discovered a new cometary phenomenon!
In September, outgassing from CN, as
detected by the MRI, increased slowly by a factor of 5 and then slowly
decreased while the dust showed no dramatic change. This activity took
place over the course of 16 days. We are unaware of any other instances
of this type of activity in any other comets and it is very different
from the dust outbursts observed with the same instrument at Tempel 1.
(Reported in CBET 2512
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/cbet/RecentCBETs.html, which requires
a subscription to view.)

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[meteorite-list] EPOXI Mission Status Report - November 1, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://epoxi.umd.edu/1mission/status.shtml

EPOXI Mission Status Report
Michael A'Hern
November 1, 2011

As we approach the anniversary of the EPOXI flyby of Hartley 2,
it is time to look at what we have learned about comets from this
mission. In the first week of October, a special session of the annual
DPS meeting http://meetings.copernicus.org/epsc-dps2011/, jointly held
with the European Planetary Science Congress, highlighted recent mission
results in an all-day session
http://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EPSC-DPS2011/session/8405. Key
results from EPOXI included:

* new evidence that the two lobes of Hartley 2 are different in
  composition,
* separation of the icy grains from the refractory grains
  quantitatively improved statistics on the motion of the large
  chunks in the coma,
* the correlation of surface ice with topography on the nucleus,
* an analysis of spectra showing that the thermal inertia of the
  nucleus is very small (highest surface temperature at noon rather
  than in the afternoon).

The results for the abundances of carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon
dioxide (CO_2 ) relative to water mesh nicely with results from the
Akari satellite on these abundances in other comets and the results on
deuterium in Hartley 2 suggest that the origin of comets needs to be
rethought.

Meanwhile, NASA has decided that there will be a senior review of all
operating planetary exploration missions. That will likely include a
review of the status of the Deep Impact Flyby spacecraft to determine
whether an additional extended mission should be approved. Decisions
will not occur until early 2012.

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[meteorite-list] AD: El Hammami 6,055 grams

2011-11-03 Thread Bill
Hello list,

I have a fresh 6,055 gram fragment of El Hammami H5 with crust for
sale from M Casper.  Before I cut this up and sell the slices, I
wanted to offer the whole fragment for sale.  I have seen this
material offered at $1.90/g and higher on some web sites.  I am taking
offers on this piece - I will consider offers of at least 50
cents/gram.

email me off-list if you are interested in pictures or would like to
make a serious offer.

Thanks,
-Bill
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[meteorite-list] AD: El Hammami 6,055 grams

2011-11-03 Thread Steve Schoner
Bill wrote:

[meteorite-list] AD: El Hammami 6,055 grams
Bill dreadrock.net at gmail.com
Thu Nov 3 14:14:47 EDT 2011

Hello list,

I have a fresh 6,055 gram fragment of El Hammami H5 with crust for
sale from M Casper.  Before I cut this up and sell the slices, I
wanted to offer the whole fragment for sale.  I have seen this
material offered at $1.90/g and higher on some web sites.  I am taking
offers on this piece - I will consider offers of at least 50
cents/gram.

email me off-list if you are interested in pictures or would like to
make a serious offer.

Thanks,
-Bill 

BTW: I for one can say, that this is a VERY under-rated meteorite. I am in the 
process of finishing four petrographic slides of EL Hammami and even in the 
final stages of prep with my petrographic scope I can see amazing structures.

This meteorite in thin section will not disappoint anyone.

It is a great witnessed fall.

Steve Schoner
IMCA Member Emeritus #4470
http://www.petroslid4es.com



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Re: [meteorite-list] EPOXI Mission Status Report - October 20, 2011

2011-11-03 Thread Elizabeth Warner
Ummm, hi Ron, you have the date wrong for this update... this is from 20 
Oct 2010 (not 2011)!!  We got pretty busy and weren't able to get any PI 
updates for a long time until the most recent one which we posted 
yesterday...


Clear Skies!
Elizabeth
EPOXI webmaster
warne...@astro.umd.edu
301-405-6555

On 11/3/2011 2:07 PM, Ron Baalke wrote:


http://epoxi.umd.edu/1mission/status.shtml

EPOXI Mission Status Report
Michael A'Hearn
October 20, 2011

The spacecraft went through a cool-down period at the end of
September to optimize the capabilities of the near-IR spectrometer and
to carry out a Trajectory Correction Maneuver (TCM). This maneuver

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[meteorite-list] Not just one cause for Ice Age die-off

2011-11-03 Thread Paul H.
Climate change linked to Ice-Age animal extinctions
by Wendy Koch, USA TODAY, Nov. 3, 2011
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2011/11/climate-change-extinction-ice-age-mammals/1?csp=34news

Climate Change Drove Extinction of Ice Age Mammals, 
Study Says, Bloombergm November 03, 2011
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-03/climate-change-drove-extinction-of-ice-age-mammals-study-says.html

Study: Not just one cause for Ice Age die-off
By Dan Vergano, November 3, 2011 
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/8588809-418/study-not-just-one-cause-for-ice-age-die-off.html

The paper is:

Lorenzen, E. D., D. Nogués-Bravo, L. Orlando, et al., 2011, 
Species-specific responses of Late Quaternary megafauna to 
climate and humans. Nature. Published online 02 November 2011
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10574.html

Yours,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Astronaut Ed Mitchell surrenders DAC Camera

2011-11-03 Thread Michael Mulgrew
I assume this means that the US government has solved every other
problem facing its citizens.  Udder ridiculousness.

Don't tread on me,
Michael in so. Cal.


On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com wrote:


 I know that this is off topic, but not really considering all the valuable 
 data
 that those brave Apollo Astronauts brought back for science.

 And even today the rocks are being studied and the radionuclide's detected 
 tell us the age and also the resources that we might obtain should the United 
 States ever return and complete what we should have done decades ago. And in 
 a way it does relate to our quest of and classification of lunar meteorites, 
 without that data that they brought back, comparisons and identifications of 
 lunar meteorites would be harder than they are now.

 The issue that bothers me is the fact that Dr. Ed Mitchell, sixth man to set 
 foot on the Moon was sued by the United States Goverment for having and 
 wanting to sell a DAC Camera that would otherwise have been destroyed on the 
 Moon.

 All Apollo Lunar Astronauts were given the incentive to retain items from the 
 LM if they met weight requirements as per the Mission Commander's approval at 
 the time of the mission.

 So for four decades he held on to this camera... Till he decided to auction 
 it in his now 80 years of life.

 NASA and our Government then sued him for possession.  And under that duress 
 he
 surrendered the camera.

 This is a travesty, done to a great man, recipient of the Medal of Freedom,  
 And
 the lawsuit is a disgrace,,, Shame on NASA and our Government for treating 
 him so.

 So with that in mind I posted a video on Youtube with a call for public 
 action to rectify this disgrace.

 First see this one as background:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttkWVERGVs

 Then my video with a call for action:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3DtuH_-5s

 Legal actions by our Government for seizure of such artifacts, due to their 
 loss of records affects all that have Apollo memorabilia.

 And of the over 1000 members of this list there may be some that have such 
 artifacts.

 I have two Apollo artifacts that have no record of transfer.  One was given 
 to me by a personal friend Eugene Shoemaker, and the other I won in an Ebay 
 auction.  Most true Apollo Mission artifacts that are being bought,sold and 
 auctioned are in the same category, no records of transfer.

 It is events like this lawsuit against Ed Mitchell that really upsets my 
 trust in our Government, which seems to be out of control... As if there are 
 things more important than improving our economy and doing some good for all.

 Steve

 P.S. Hope I have not taxed anyone with my long OT post.

 
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[meteorite-list] JPL Documentary Series is Ready to Launch on KCET

2011-11-03 Thread Ron Baalke


JPL News release: 2011-339
 
Nov. 3, 2011

JPL Documentary Series is Ready to Launch on KCET 

A documentary series about NASA'?s Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
collectively called Beginnings of the Space Age, will air on KCET
TV over three weeks, with the first program airing tonight, Nov. 3. The
schedule is as follows (all times PT):

--The American Rocketeer on Nov. 3 at 9 p.m. and Nov. 5 at 10 p.m.
--Explorer 1 on Nov. 10 at 9 p.m. and Nov. 12 at 10 p.m.
--Destination Moon on Nov. 17 at 9 p.m. and Nov. 19 at 10 p.m.

The first film in the series, The American Rocketeer, played to a
near-full house at the California Institute of Technology's Beckman
Auditorium on Oct. 25, and now the three-part series chronicling the
early history of JPL will air for other Southern California residents to
enjoy.

The American Rocketeer tells the fascinating story of Frank
Malina, who led a group of Caltech students and rocket enthusiasts in
the first rocket tests 75 years ago, on the site that is now JPL.
Explorer 1 reveals the background behind the development and launch of
the first successful U.S. satellite, designed and built by JPL.
Destination Moon documents JPL's ambitious plan to beat the Soviet
Union in robotic space exploration by reaching not only for the moon,
but also the inner planets.

All three episodes in the series were produced, written and directed by
Blaine Baggett, JPL's director of communications and education. For
information about the history of JPL and the 75-year anniversary, visit:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/rocketeer/ .

More information about JPL, which Caltech manages for NASA, is online
at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov .

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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA

2011-11-03 Thread Michael Blood
This is my final statement re the earlier post
About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself:
Those interested see below:

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html





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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA

2011-11-03 Thread Darryl Pitt

Hi, 

The apology is appreciated.  

Thank you. 

Darryl



On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Michael Blood wrote:

 This is my final statement re the earlier post
 About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself:
 Those interested see below:
 
 http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html
 
 --
 “It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.”
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA

2011-11-03 Thread Ed Deckert

Michael,

It takes a big man to come out and publicly admit in great detail that he 
that made mistakes, as well as making an apology not only to Darryl, but to 
those in the IMCA and the Met List who may have been offended as well.


You are indeed a man of character for coming out and taking full 
responsibility for your mistakes.  I applaud your honesty and humility.  My 
faith in you is firm, and I hope that others will feel the same way.


I also hope that Darryl will accept your apology as it was offered most 
sincerely.  I hope that the two of you can be friends once again, and not 
just for the duration of a beer in Tucson.


Best Regards,
Ed Deckert
IMCA #8911


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA


This is my final statement re the earlier post
About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself:
Those interested see below:

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html





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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA

2011-11-03 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Michael, Darryl and Ed.
I agree. I wish this happened more often. We have enough anger and
hostility in this world without adding to it. No one is perfect, but we
can try and overcome our shortcomings.

My hat is off to all of you. Friends need to be cherished. Enough said
and let's get back to what we love, meteorites.

Cheers
John Cabassi
IMCA # 2125

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Deckert
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:28 PM
To: Michael Blood; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA


Michael,

It takes a big man to come out and publicly admit in great detail that
he 
that made mistakes, as well as making an apology not only to Darryl, but
to 
those in the IMCA and the Met List who may have been offended as well.

You are indeed a man of character for coming out and taking full 
responsibility for your mistakes.  I applaud your honesty and humility.
My 
faith in you is firm, and I hope that others will feel the same way.

I also hope that Darryl will accept your apology as it was offered most 
sincerely.  I hope that the two of you can be friends once again, and
not 
just for the duration of a beer in Tucson.

Best Regards,
Ed Deckert
IMCA #8911


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA


This is my final statement re the earlier post
About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself:
Those interested see below:

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html





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[meteorite-list] Asteroid Flyby

2011-11-03 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/as-asteroid-flies-by-scientists-will-stare/2011/11/02/gIQA8FTngM_story.html


As asteroid flies by, scientists will stare
 a.. Text Size
 b.. Print
 c.. E-mail
 d.. Reprints
By Brian Vastag, Thursday, November 3, 2:35 PM
An asteroid the size of an aircraft carrier will zoom past Earth on Tuesday 
just inside the orbit of the moon.


The space rock poses no danger, as its nearest approach will be a 
comfortable 202,000 miles distant. But the event marks the closest flyby of 
an asteroid this large since 1976, according to NASA.


83

Comments

 a.. Weigh In
 b.. Corrections?


inShare
Asteroid 2005 YU55 has a name only a scientist could love. They're also 
loving the chance to stare at the nearly round, slowly spinning chunk of 
space debris as it flies by at some 30,000 mph.


It will be scanned and probed and scanned some more, said Marina Brozovic, 
an asteroid researcher at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.


Starting Friday, Brozovic will ping the approaching asteroid with radar from 
giant dishes at Goldstone, Calif. She wants to map every crater and boulder 
while refining estimates of the asteroid's path, which swings inside the 
orbit of Venus and then out near Mars, crossing Earth's orbit.


Meanwhile, telescopes in Arizona and Hawaii will analyze light reflected 
from the asteroid to determine more precisely what it's made of. Already 
scientists know it's darker than charcoal, because it's a C-type asteroid, 
heavy with carbon and silicate minerals. Astronomers will also look for 
signs of water.


Similar asteroids that have plunged to Earth - called carbonaceous 
chondrites - hold within them amino acids and other building blocks of life.


These are the objects that probably seeded the early Earth with 
carbon-based materials and water that allowed life to form, said Don 
Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near Earth Object Program, which tracks space 
objects that veer close to our planet.


Since a humble start at a single telescope in the 1980s, NASA's $5 
million-per-year asteroid-tracking program has matured to the point where 
the agency said in September that it has detected more than 90 percent of 
planet killer asteroids, those bigger than one kilometer in diameter. None 
will hit Earth in the foreseeable future, the agency has said.


The tracking program detects hundreds of smaller space rocks each year, 
closely watching their orbits. So far, none of those pose a threat either.


In the past, giant asteroids have crashed into Earth and devastated life. 
The most famous, at least seven miles wide, blasted a crater in the Yucatan 
Peninsulasome 65 million years ago, triggering a cataclysm that probably 
wiped out the dinosaurs.


If a space rock the size of 2005 YU55 ever hit Earth, it would explode like 
500 nuclear bombs, trigger a 7.0 magnitude earthquake and, if it splashed 
down in the ocean, generate a 70-foot tsunami, said Purdue University's Jay 
Melosh.


Already, scientists have determined this asteroid poses no threat for the 
next century or so.


Still, they're treating the flyby as a drill, a chance to refine their 
tracking skills. Said asteroid hunter Richard Binzel of MIT: If one were 
ever found on an incoming trajectory, we'll want to apply all the techniques 
we are learning now.




Phil Whitmer

Joshua Tree Earth  Space Museum

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Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA

2011-11-03 Thread MexicoDoug

will allow me to buy him a beer in Tucson.

Well done!

Or maybe give him a T-Shirt printed, Cap'n sold me a hunk of the Moon 
and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.


Michael, I hope Darryl accepts your thoughtful reply and wish both of 
you the best of luck in continuing your long positive history.  Both of 
you have played very important and admirable roles in the small but 
growing meteorite world and we all, large and small, need to stick 
together to meet some of the challenges.


Wouldn't it be great if one of those amazing Macovich type pieces or 
two auctioned under a friendly arrangement in the upcoming Michael 
Blood's Tucson People's Auction?  Perfect timing ... when does the 
catalog come out, can you beileve we're already in November? Other list 
the list starts Tucson buzzing in August... Seems like a win-win 
solution for everyone, listmembers, you and Darryl.  A beer after this 
one seems less filling; ...something that tastes great? of course if 
Darryl is game.


Kindest wishes
Doug

When life gives you lemons, sell them on eBay. (humor)




-Original Message-
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA


This is my final statement re the earlier post
About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself:
Those interested see below:

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html





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