Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Happy Birthday Mike! How about smashing pumpkins. Jim K In a message dated 11/11/2011 7:19:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, meteoritem...@gmail.com writes: Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
I like this idea. Happy Birthday Mike! gary On Nov 11, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Hey Mike, All I can think of is if you can get some bread and cheese and hit it with your meteorite from your roof, you'd have a hammer and cheese sandwich. Sorry, Carl2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Birthday Bash Sale - 25% OFF Everything - also New Campo and Diablo Small Irons
Greetings Ladies, Gentlemen, and Children of all Ages! Today is my birthday and to celebrate, I am offering a 25% off discount on everything in the store. Use coupon code birthday at checkout - if the coupon code or checkout gives you any problems, email me at - meteoritem...@gmail.com. This coupon expires monday. I have some new stabilized irons from Pat Mulvany. These have been professionally stabilized using Pat's process and are guaranteed not to rust under normal conditions. If any of Pat's specimens begin to rust, he will stabilize them for free - don't expect that to happen though because I have sold scores of Pat's irons to buyers around the world and every single one is as completely stable as the day it finished the process. In the near future, I will be offering stabilized and etched slices of Canyon Diablo and Campo del Cielo. Pat does a wicked etch with nitol and these slices are gorgeous. I'll make an announcement when they are ready. These will be available only from Galactic Stone Ironworks. To get an idea of what to expect with these etch jobs, take a look at the small etched Gibeon endcut linked below. It sparkles like tiny diamonds. Without further ado, here are the new specimens and highlights for this week - Etched Gibeon endcut (SOLD) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/gibeon-iron-meteorite--etched-stabilized-endcut-341g Pallasovka pallasite slice (SOLD) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/pallasovka-pallasite--thick-stabilized-slice-w-transparent-olivine-409g Canyon Diablo iron meteorite - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-stabilized-iron-meteorite-137g Canyon Diablo iron meteorite - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorite-stabilized-137g Canyon Diablo oxide iron - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorite-stabilized-oxide-127g Canyon Diablo oxide iron - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorite-stabilized-oxide-357g Canyon Diablo oxide iron - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorite-stabilized-oxide-142g-1 Canyon Diablo oxide iron - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorite-stabilized-oxide-142g Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-206g Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-261g Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-211g Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-220g Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-204g-1 Campo del Cielo Mini Meteorites Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo--collection-lot-of-mini-iron-meteorites-204g Breja (171mg part slice w/crust) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/breja-new-moroccan-meteorite-fall-may-2010-taouz-1 El Hammami (H5 chondrite, Mauritania) - 4.4g polished crusted slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/el-hammami-early-saharan-h5-meteorite-mauritania-1997-micro-1 Moon Rock Display (Dhofar 1084 lunar meteorite) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/moon-rock-exclusive-retro-art-lunar-meteorite-display Moon Rock Display (NEA 001 lunar meteorite) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/moon-rock-exclusive-retro-lunar-meteorite-display-dhofar-1084 NWA 515 (L6 chondrite, Morocco) - 7.4g polished crusted slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-515-early-saharan-l6-chondrite-from-morocco-2000-1 NWA 2932 (mesosiderite) - 7.29g polished nugget - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-2932-saharan-mesosiderite-low-tkw-polished-stone-97g NWA 6080 (LL4 chondrite, Morocco) - 11g polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6080-beautiful-ll4-chondrite-with-clasts-micromount-1 NWA 6284 (L5 chondrite, Morocco) - 12g polished slice with large prominent chondrule - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6284-fresh-l5-chondrite-loaded-w-clasts-inclusions-micromount- Unclassified Meteorites (lots and individuals) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/nwa-unclassified Carbonado Diamonds (impact diamonds) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/carbonado-black-diamond-ancient-impact-artifact Indochinite Necklace (sterling silver, polished tektite) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/indochinite-tektite-in-sterling-silver-necklace-and-pendant-9 Indochinite Teardrops - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/indochinite-tektite-curious-black-ancient-impact-glass Kentland Crater (shattercones) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/kentland-crater-indiana--shattercone-impactite Ries impactite (impact breccia, Ries crater) - 49g slice -
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Happy Birthday Mike!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:43 AM To: Michael Gilmer Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! I like this idea. Happy Birthday Mike! gary On Nov 11, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
The cheeseburger idea made me think of SNL... Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger! No fries, chips. Four chip! No Coke. Pepsi. Four Pepsi! Ed - Original Message - From: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; robbyhoov...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Happy Birthday Mike! I'd like to suggest you smash a platter of McDonalds Cheeseburgers... I would ask that I be able to acquire a fragment of your Mc hammer afterwards though :-) Have a good weekend everyone and Happy Veteran's Day(day late I know) to my fellow Marines and all who have and do serve our great country. Ooh- rah!! Brandon D. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robby, Doug, and List, So far we have - Tomato (or tomato filled with egg) Dominoes Birthday cake Pinata Car stereo Keep them coming! Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/11/11, robbyhoov...@yahoo.com robbyhoov...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi mike, As a car stereo installer by trade. I would love to see a car radio destroyed by a meteorite. Robby Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Hi Mike, All; Mike if you still are going through with this, when you videorecord it, please be sure to get and note the highest framerate possible so we can check the velocity and perhaps extrapolate back to it's parent mass, and see how well you measure up the the Galileo legend ;-) ~l~ De las estrellas del cielo quisiera bajarte dos; una para saludarte y otra para decirte adiós. ~l~ (Principal Happy Birthday Song in Mexico) translated: ~l~ And of the stars in the sky, I'd wish to make two fall for you; one to greet you and another to tell you farewell. ~l~ Farewell ! Doug -Original Message- From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com To: jl j...@hc.fdn.com; meteoritemike meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2011 1:25 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Does anyone have a mortgage that is about to be paid off? If mine were closer to completion, I'd be happy to let you smash it! Best! Tracy Latimer From: j...@hc.fdn.com To: meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:33:13 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! I'm 57 going on 15 so i'll entertain you. First off, Happy Birthday to you and remembering all veterans to others. How 'bout a tomato or a hollowed out tomato with an egg placed in it? J - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Regolith is mostly powdered rock and pebbles from the parent body that may or may not be compacted at the surface. So why should the reflectance spectra from Lutetia's regolith be totally dismissed? Are you dismissing Spectroscopy of asteroids altogether? If the paint derived from the parent body, then analysis of the paint could possibly tell us something about the parent body itself. Yes? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Spectrum match trumps Albedo discrepancy ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Big bolid over the south of Sweden 11-11-11 1800 hours local time
Dear List, A big bolid was reported by the Swedish press. Time 1800 PM Location: Southern Sweden Direction: South West Does anyone have skycam recordings or more observations/information? The link ( in swedish) http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/stor-rymdsten-lyste-upp-himlen-over-sverige http://www.ufo.se/blogg/15855 (both links are in swedish so please use google translate) Thank you in advance for all the information we can get. Jan van Hoffen IMCA#8245 www.meteoritshopen.se __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
I remember, reading a meteorite book years ago - long before NWA meteorites became available - showing a photograph of an approx. 500g weathered ordinary chondrite meteorite, in situ, in Australia. A size, at that time completely unattainable for a collector like me. A great treasure. . I would suggest to gently toss the stone onto a huge cushion, so that no harm will be done, and enjoy and appreciate your rare treasure from space. Have a nice birthday! Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Michael Gilmer Verzonden: zaterdag 12 november 2011 2:19 Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Hi Mike, So you say you are smashed after a few shots on your birthday and decided to talk about meteorites... This sounds like a really good info-commercial, This is your brain on rock! :) Happy B-Day! P.S. Turn your stove off, your eggs might get fried in the morning! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:19 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Hey Benjamin Spectroscopy is one of many tools in the toolbox which unfortunately is not a good toolbox until you can scoop up a sample and look at it. This looks like you are responding to me since I mentioned paint in my reply of the difficulty of interpreting convoulted spectra made of billions of years of dust and collisions. But I'm not really sure because I called it speculation; so whoever you are talking about dismissing it, maybe they can speak up. An astronomer doing chemical spectras has a light path through earth's atmosphere, across space beyond Timbuctu to arrive at a sample that hasn't been cleaned for a few billion years and has been subjected to all varieties of meteoritical, asteroidal, cosmic particle, as well as the normal alteration processes. Then he has a collection of meteorites which is probably far from complete, but he is lucky if by chance one of them fairly matches after he does his best to cheat by starting with the meteorite fresh cut spectrum assuming it is his best match and working his way backwards doing what he can along the way to lower this peak or raise that one and then when all the dust is cleared :-), he just shows his spectrum of the asteroid and his spectrum of the meteorite after his series of manipulations and says Eureka, I've found it! The down side is minimal, the astronomer doesn't even get much of an academic spanking and speculation is healthy and fun. If he happens to be clever and lucky though, the upside is it really is a match and he goes down as the guy who discovered the composition of an asteroid or asteroid class. In the case of Lutetia, a closer view from Rosetta was significant becuase it eliminated many erroneous conclusions from other spectra of it that had been taken from Earth distance and it confirmed there are no organic materials, and water is scarce. Basically, after gravitational measurements, a different tool than spectroscopic ones is added, and it shows Lutetia is heave for its size does the idea it has a lot of metal start sounding good. But to say it is an E-meteorite class instead, for example of a Bencubbinite or perhaps one of the many types of millions of asteroids that we have not seen specimens from ... it's a real concrete jungle out there ... So, speculative is the correct word to use. And after reviewing the limitations of the spectroscopy, let's paint the town with it. Most interesting to me was the very large crater found. Now, luckily the Spectrum of Lutetia is rather unique. I the case of Vesta, the scale fell in favore of it being understood as the HED source after a chain of Vestoids was found spanning Vesta's orbit to a Kirkwood gap. In the case of Lutetia, let's see if the 10 million kilometers it needs to span have any baby Parisians along a path in an analolgous manner...Very inteesting, but ... not stupid! Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2011 3:32 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia Regolith is mostly powdered rock and pebbles from the parent body that may or may not be compacted at the surface. So why should the reflectance spectra from Lutetia's regolith be totally dismissed? Are you dismissing Spectroscopy of asteroids altogether? If the paint derived from the parent body, then analysis of the paint could possibly tell us something about the parent body itself. Yes? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Benjamin, The regolith (dust) on the moon is pretty think as evidenced by the depth of the moon walkers foot prints as seen in photos. So, Tell me. Does that dust composition match the rocks on the Moon or not? Or is it a mixture of impactors and native rocks? That answer should hint at the truth about spectroscopy shouldn't it? Carl meteoritemax Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: Regolith is mostly powdered rock and pebbles from the parent body that may or may not be compacted at the surface. So why should the reflectance spectra from Lutetia's regolith be totally dismissed? Are you dismissing Spectroscopy of asteroids altogether? If the paint derived from the parent body, then analysis of the paint could possibly tell us something about the parent body itself. Yes? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Hi Larry and all, Without knowing what research has been done studying Lutetia, if memory serves me right, don't they take into account the regolith on the surface of an asteroid and adjust the spectra so it more closely matches clean meteorite specimens that we have? Thought this may have not been done yet and why the discrepancy on the reflective composition on the asteroid is low. I figure that Larry would have a better bead on the subject than I but wanted to add another log on the fire. Best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia Hi Michael: The only thing that I would disagree with in the article has to do with where Lutetia formed. It has a fairly low inclination and low eccentricity (for a main belt asteroid), so I doubt there is any way that it could have formed in the inner part of the Solar System and found its way into the main belt. I think it formed there to begin with. Also, I think that the albedo of Lutetia is a little low compared to enstatite chondrites, so this might also be of concern when comparing Lutetia to enstatites. Larry Cool, now we know where all of our enstantite meteorites likely come from. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: 21 Lutetia is an enstatite! http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-11/e-la11.php __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 40g Park Forest Meteorite Recovered in Chicago Heights
This is the only PF I know of that was recovered in Chicago Heights Illinois. The location where it was found seems to be outside of the strewnfield. If that's the case it's a hammer that hit a vehicle and was transported there. Whatever the case may be, the history of it's recovery is most interesting. I'll be taking offers for 2 weeks. Best offer owns it. The link below shows exactly where it was found. I'll post a link to complete photos of the meteorite as soon as the sun comes out. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/40gPF2515ChicagoRd.jpg Thanks, Bill Kieskowski Hazel Crest IL __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
MikeG, I suggest you target the bottle and the remains, if there are any, that inspired this post. Consider a roofers harness if you get up on the roof. Unless you are well practiced throwing meteorites at objects from your roof, you might be up there a long time which will increase the possibility of a slip. Be careful, Bill From: j...@hc.fdn.com To: meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:33:13 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! I'm 57 going on 15 so i'll entertain you. First off, Happy Birthday to you and remembering all veterans to others. How 'bout a tomato or a hollowed out tomato with an egg placed in it? J - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Benjamin and Doug: It has been a few years since I have done any spectroscopy of asteroids. Also, I have not seen the Rosetta spectral results to be able to judge what they are proposing. However, even as of a year ago, there was uncertainty with respect to the spectral classification of Lutetia. Originally, it fell into what was in the Tholen classification as EMP. These asteroids have a slightly reddish spectral slope and no other distinguishable features. The ambiguity in the class has to do with the albedo and with that, I think Lutetia was classified as an M (moderate albedo). I just found the article that will be coming out in Icarus and the spectral match does look very good. They do compare Lutetia with multiple enstatite meteorites as well as other candidate meteorites and the match is fairly good. I have not looked at the paper in detail, so I do not know if there is spectral variation seen across the surface. You would expect this for a thin coating on the surface. I must admit that I was skeptical of the results based on the new releases, but I am less so given the Icarus paper. Larry Hey Benjamin Spectroscopy is one of many tools in the toolbox which unfortunately is not a good toolbox until you can scoop up a sample and look at it. This looks like you are responding to me since I mentioned paint in my reply of the difficulty of interpreting convoulted spectra made of billions of years of dust and collisions. But I'm not really sure because I called it speculation; so whoever you are talking about dismissing it, maybe they can speak up. An astronomer doing chemical spectras has a light path through earth's atmosphere, across space beyond Timbuctu to arrive at a sample that hasn't been cleaned for a few billion years and has been subjected to all varieties of meteoritical, asteroidal, cosmic particle, as well as the normal alteration processes. Then he has a collection of meteorites which is probably far from complete, but he is lucky if by chance one of them fairly matches after he does his best to cheat by starting with the meteorite fresh cut spectrum assuming it is his best match and working his way backwards doing what he can along the way to lower this peak or raise that one and then when all the dust is cleared :-), he just shows his spectrum of the asteroid and his spectrum of the meteorite after his series of manipulations and says Eureka, I've found it! The down side is minimal, the astronomer doesn't even get much of an academic spanking and speculation is healthy and fun. If he happens to be clever and lucky though, the upside is it really is a match and he goes down as the guy who discovered the composition of an asteroid or asteroid class. In the case of Lutetia, a closer view from Rosetta was significant becuase it eliminated many erroneous conclusions from other spectra of it that had been taken from Earth distance and it confirmed there are no organic materials, and water is scarce. Basically, after gravitational measurements, a different tool than spectroscopic ones is added, and it shows Lutetia is heave for its size does the idea it has a lot of metal start sounding good. But to say it is an E-meteorite class instead, for example of a Bencubbinite or perhaps one of the many types of millions of asteroids that we have not seen specimens from ... it's a real concrete jungle out there ... So, speculative is the correct word to use. And after reviewing the limitations of the spectroscopy, let's paint the town with it. Most interesting to me was the very large crater found. Now, luckily the Spectrum of Lutetia is rather unique. I the case of Vesta, the scale fell in favore of it being understood as the HED source after a chain of Vestoids was found spanning Vesta's orbit to a Kirkwood gap. In the case of Lutetia, let's see if the 10 million kilometers it needs to span have any baby Parisians along a path in an analolgous manner...Very inteesting, but ... not stupid! Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2011 3:32 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia Regolith is mostly powdered rock and pebbles from the parent body that may or may not be compacted at the surface. So why should the reflectance spectra from Lutetia's regolith be totally dismissed? Are you dismissing Spectroscopy of asteroids altogether? If the paint derived from the parent body, then analysis of the paint could possibly tell us something about the parent body itself. Yes? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Well put, good reply, Ron! Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:58:53 +0100 Von: Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl An: \'Michael Gilmer\' meteoritem...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! I remember, reading a meteorite book years ago - long before NWA meteorites became available - showing a photograph of an approx. 500g weathered ordinary chondrite meteorite, in situ, in Australia. A size, at that time completely unattainable for a collector like me. A great treasure. . I would suggest to gently toss the stone onto a huge cushion, so that no harm will be done, and enjoy and appreciate your rare treasure from space. Have a nice birthday! Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Michael Gilmer Verzonden: zaterdag 12 november 2011 2:19 Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
Great post Rob. Nicely said. Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2011 8:59 AM To: 'Michael Gilmer'; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! I remember, reading a meteorite book years ago - long before NWA meteorites became available - showing a photograph of an approx. 500g weathered ordinary chondrite meteorite, in situ, in Australia. A size, at that time completely unattainable for a collector like me. A great treasure. . I would suggest to gently toss the stone onto a huge cushion, so that no harm will be done, and enjoy and appreciate your rare treasure from space. Have a nice birthday! Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Michael Gilmer Verzonden: zaterdag 12 november 2011 2:19 Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Doug, By your own argument, it would be a speculative assumption to consider that Lutetia is not an E-class meteorite, and that it's spectroscopy doesn't reflect in some way it's general composition. Like you say, without a direct sample of Lutetia, no one can be absolutely certain. On this I agree. But for me, all signs are pointing towards --- enstatite. If I were to place a bet, that's what I would be betting on. In the case of Vesta, it was predicted that it was the source for HED's through Spectroscopy long before the chain of Vestoids was found spanning along Vesta's orbit. Granted, Spectroscopy of asteroids from Earth is probably not as accurate as from a space probe in a close flyby. But that's one of the reasons why it's nice that we have Dawn and Rosetta now. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
Oops, I meant to say Impactor.. Yes, regolith is a mixture of Impactor* material and native PB rock. I can only say, from what I've read about Lunar regolith breccia meteorites, is that they are usually composed of 10%(at most) or less of impactor material, and the remaining majority is native material from the parent body. But Dr. Korotev(or Dr. Irving, et. al.) would be the expert to ask. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mis-Conception Junction (casual similarities to Brenham)
See About: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com All best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:35 PM To: d...@fallingrocks.com Cc: Michael Farmer; Dick Lipke; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: Mis-Conception Junction (casual similarities to Brenham) Hi Dave and List, Thanks for the explanation. I guess the casual resemblance to Brenham is just another good quality that makes Conception Junction interesting. It's definitely a beautiful pallasite. Does anyone have a photo of a back-lit specimen with translucent olivines they can share with the List? Are there any green olivines found in Conception Junction? Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/11/11, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote: Mike G wrote: I have only seen photos, but if I was presented with a slice of each in a blind taste test, I would be at a loss to tell one from the other. Actually, you wouldn't. What's missing is scale, and the Conception Junction crystals are substantially smaller than Brenham (or just about any other known pallasite, for that matter). We ran some comparisons, and I think the average Brenham crystal diameter was about 7.5 mm compared to only 4.5 mm for Conception Junction. It's strikingly obvious when you see it in person, and there are actually quite a good number of other aesthetic distinctions as well. Then there are the comparative analyses Dr. Wasson conducted, which are to some extent detailed in the monograph and are beyond conclusive in terms of dilenating Conception Junction's uniqueness from Brenham -- or any other known pallasite. All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:22 PM To: d...@fallingrocks.com Cc: Michael Farmer; Dick Lipke; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: Mis-Conception Junction (casual similarities to Brenham) Hi Dave and List, The title of your post gave me a good chuckle - quite punny and definitely appropriate. Nobody would blame Dr. Korotev for that mess of an article. Although, I think this entire affair can be laid to rest if some billionaire (or lotto winner) would simply step forward and take one for the team - I have a part-slice of El Hammami that I am willing to sell for several million dollars, thus setting the precedent required to make the article accurate. While we are on the subject of this new pallasite, I'd like to bring up a question that was briefly touched upon in the past - the visual similarity between Conception Junction and Brenham. I realize that the analysis has been done and these two meteorites are not the same. However, is there some chance that the two finds may be casually related in some way? To the eye, based on visual appearances alone, Brenham and Conception Junction do look similar. Now, I may be speaking from ignorance, since I have never seen a specimen of Conception Junction in person. I have only seen photos, but if I was presented with a slice of each in a blind taste test, I would be at a loss to tell one from the other. Is there any possibility that these two meteorites might share the same parent body, or be launch-paired in some way? Are there any similarities in cosmic ray exposure data, terrestrial age, oxygen isotope (or any other compositional data) for these meteorites? Best regards, MikeG -- -- -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone -- -- - On 11/11/11, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote: Michael All, As indicated before, we're as disappointed in the sensationalism that hit the wire with this article as anyone, as if any of us knew about it prior, it obviously could have been prevented. Diana Lutz, the WUSTL writer of the first article that started the mess, however, actually wrote a nice article for the most part. I've spoken with her at length, and she not only corrected the gross error in value -- she deleted value references entirely, which is quite uncommon in journalism today. Her mistake,
Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia
By your own argument, it would be a speculative assumption to consider that Lutetia is not an E-class meteorite Hi Benjamin; I'm glad you read and understood the point I was making. Correct: it is speculative to say what it is or to say what is isn't, within a range that fits the noisy spectral data, in the absence of more convincing evidence. We'll just have to wait. If you have an opinion without having to fully support the conclusion that's honorable, respectable and probably fun to get in vicariously on the action if it turns out true ... as long as we put it in the column of testable ideas. There is no slam dunk here either way. Insufficient information. Lot's of things sound great and then fizzle out. Others don't. Let's see the article that Larry apparently previewed and maybe that will be more convincing. Then connect the dots to see how this material could be transported to Earth and the possibilities of especially that 45 km crater imaged being a source of earth bound material, in case it is not only a recognizeable meteorite class composition, but also one we actually have in our collections. But that is wishful thinking for now. At the moment assumptions or bets might be fun but I prefer betting on Blackjack-21 or meteorite hunting where I can at least break my butt doing something to improve my odds instead of watching the all-star science teams from the bleachers ... but I will root for them! It will be great if we can add Lutetia to the Pantheon of Parent Bodies, but that will require a successful study like Binzel's or a sample return mission. On the basis of size of the asteroid and its many craters, maybe it be Abee... That would a nice coincidence as of all the meteorites on the planet I just got Abee as a gift from a friend on the day this hit the press. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2011 9:18 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lutetia Doug, By your own argument, it would be a speculative assumption to consider that Lutetia is not an E-class meteorite, and that it's spectroscopy doesn't reflect in some way it's general composition. Like you say, without a direct sample of Lutetia, no one can be absolutely certain. On this I agree. But for me, all signs are pointing towards --- enstatite. If I were to place a bet, that's what I would be betting on. In the case of Vesta, it was predicted that it was the source for HED's through Spectroscopy long before the chain of Vestoids was found spanning along Vesta's orbit. Granted, Spectroscopy of asteroids from Earth is probably not as accurate as from a space probe in a close flyby. But that's one of the reasons why it's nice that we have Dawn and Rosetta now. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TV Stars on Ebay
Hey List, I just put up a could of TV Stars on Ebay, meteorites that were found on one of our Meteorite Men episodes. Check them out here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/stevearnoldmeteorites/m.html?_adv=1_dmd=1_in_kw=1; _ipg=50_sop=1_rdc=1 Thanks for your consideration, Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2012 Dates
Hello all Anyone know which weekend the show will cover next year? Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite smashing
Michael, How about throwing it an old globe. You could get the feeling of a meteorite smashing into the earth. Maybe you would even get a strewn field. Linda Barany lbar...@sbcglobal.net Bitdefender 2012 This page is being scanned Please wait while this page is being scanned. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
