[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Dakhleh Glass http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy 125th Harvey
Hi Mike, Since it is Harvey's BD, people might want to read more about him here: http://www.meteorite.com/nininger/ Best to all! --AL Mitterling Quoting Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com: Hi All Yes it is HH Niningers birthday today Jan 17th. He would have been 125! -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD two big Pultusk for sale
Dear List Members, a friend of mine ask me to announce that he have 2 larger Pultusk pieces for sale. Pultusk is well known Polish historical fall. Specimens was found in 2011 (in summer time), and carefully cleaned (non chemical method). Specimens have 950g and 523g (oriented shape). Here is couple of photos (also in situ photos) and video showing shape. Pultusk 950g : https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Pultusk950g?authkey=Gv1sRgCM2Ih9iou7TK_wE and second, oriented one 523g : https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Pultusk523g?authkey=Gv1sRgCJiumIz7rZCsmgE Pieces have in situ photos, and GPS coordinates (so they are well documented). All question please send to me at : illae...@gmail.com With best regards Tomasz Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Managing Editor www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
I guess this means that the Smithsonian, AMNH (New York) and Natural History Museum (London) curators don't recognize rarity and value. Perhaps it's something else. The fact of the matter is that large institutional collections are, in general, rather lacking in NWAs, Libyan, and Omani meteorites. This is reflected in the scientific literature. Although there are some institutional collections with a lot of hot desert meteorites, I doubt your statement that the collections in institutions will soon be dominated by hot desert meteorites. Jeff On 1/17/2012 10:42 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Most museums and institutions who recognize rarity and value now integrate world-class NWA specimens into their collections. The Royal Ontario Museum comes to mind who has an amazing collection. I think the ratio will favor hot-desert finds soon. Their beauty rarity and value cannot be ignored. A meteorite has no control where it lands. A meteorite is a still a meteorite once a meteoroid touches the Earth. We are fortunate that the Sahara desert preserves them well. Kind Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Mars Meteorite, Main Mass?????
THAT, is a detail that I can agree on!!! Thee have been some really great pieces posted here and on Facebook recently. Greg Hupe's video was particularly nice. Jim. http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, If yours is not the largest, it's just a detail because yours is pretty great!!! On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:40 AM, Jim Strope wrote: SEEING is believing. I haven't SEEN any of the rumors. Not even photos. Details ? What's that supposed to mean? I made NO claims, only speculation, since this is the largest CONFIRMED specimen...so far. Jim Strope 421 4th Street Glen Dale, WV. 26038 Sent from my iPad On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, Wow and congratulations!! Probably not the main massheard there were one or two that are larger---but that's just a detail. Best / d, On Jan 17, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Just a few more of the Tissint Meteorites that we have. I wonder if the big one is the Main Mass? http://meteoriteguy.com/Martians Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone
Enjoy the picture! Makes for a really nice 8x10 for the wall!! http://k7wfr.us/J22.jpg Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Hello List I feel we have discussed this particular topic before on the list - and at some length. In common with the Smithsonian, the AMNH and the Natural History Museum London (and many other museums) we at the National Museums Scotland do appreciate rarity and value, but like our colleagues at these museums, we cannot purchase material from certain localities including those mentioned by Jeff. I also agree with Jeff that I cannot see collections at these institutions becoming dominated by this material in the near future. Hope to see you all at Tucson this year. I will be exhibiting at the Convention centre (Minerals from Bisbee, Arizona). Come and have a look if you can. Best Wishes Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Grossman Sent: 18 January 2012 13:02 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material I guess this means that the Smithsonian, AMNH (New York) and Natural History Museum (London) curators don't recognize rarity and value. Perhaps it's something else. The fact of the matter is that large institutional collections are, in general, rather lacking in NWAs, Libyan, and Omani meteorites. This is reflected in the scientific literature. Although there are some institutional collections with a lot of hot desert meteorites, I doubt your statement that the collections in institutions will soon be dominated by hot desert meteorites. Jeff On 1/17/2012 10:42 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Most museums and institutions who recognize rarity and value now integrate world-class NWA specimens into their collections. The Royal Ontario Museum comes to mind who has an amazing collection. I think the ratio will favor hot-desert finds soon. Their beauty rarity and value cannot be ignored. A meteorite has no control where it lands. A meteorite is a still a meteorite once a meteoroid touches the Earth. We are fortunate that the Sahara desert preserves them well. Kind Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Fascinating Mummies - mummies as you've never seen them before. National Museum of Scotland, 11 Feb-27 May. www.nms.ac.uk/mummies National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
They might ask what were we thinking but sure will be glad we saved them! Cheers Steve --- On Wed, 1/18/12, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 3:28 PM Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone
Hi Kim, This is really cool. I saw it yesterday at ASU as I arrived while Laurence was studying the specimen. Pretty amazing that the heat rim is so pronounced. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Enjoy the picture! Makes for a really nice 8x10 for the wall!! http://k7wfr.us/J22.jpg Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone
Hi Ruben and all! Pretty good for a UAW! It's an awesome sample! I had a glossy 8x10 made of it last night and bought a frame. It's now hanging in my computer room. That would look nice in your room at Tucson! Wal-Mart has a sale going on their canvas prints. I was going to have a few of those made today but I just learned all their machines at the store here are out of service. The distortion of the bands tend to make it not look flat, but it really is! One of the better examples I've ever seen for both heat and distortion. I'd like to see a better exampleif there is one!! The research continues! Who's Kim? ;) Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone Hi Kim, This is really cool. I saw it yesterday at ASU as I arrived while Laurence was studying the specimen. Pretty amazing that the heat rim is so pronounced. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Enjoy the picture! Makes for a really nice 8x10 for the wall!! http://k7wfr.us/J22.jpg Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone
you can get paper that looks like canvas at staples. then print it with a Kodak printer. cheers Steve Dunklee --- On Wed, 1/18/12, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: From: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 4:05 PM Hi Ruben and all! Pretty good for a UAW! It's an awesome sample! I had a glossy 8x10 made of it last night and bought a frame. It's now hanging in my computer room. That would look nice in your room at Tucson! Wal-Mart has a sale going on their canvas prints. I was going to have a few of those made today but I just learned all their machines at the store here are out of service. The distortion of the bands tend to make it not look flat, but it really is! One of the better examples I've ever seen for both heat and distortion. I'd like to see a better exampleif there is one!! The research continues! Who's Kim? ;) Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Distorted Neumann Bands . Heat effected zone Hi Kim, This is really cool. I saw it yesterday at ASU as I arrived while Laurence was studying the specimen. Pretty amazing that the heat rim is so pronounced. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Enjoy the picture! Makes for a really nice 8x10 for the wall!! http://k7wfr.us/J22.jpg Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Mars Meteorite, Main Mass?????
Heard lots of things, seeing is believing. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, Wow and congratulations!! Probably not the main massheard there were one or two that are larger---but that's just a detail. Best / d, On Jan 17, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Just a few more of the Tissint Meteorites that we have. I wonder if the big one is the Main Mass? http://meteoriteguy.com/Martians Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen Gear
FYI http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/9476636.Police_hunt_gang_who_stole___400_000_of_metal_detectors_from_lorry_in_Bradford/ Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Holey Iron -Has 6 Natural Holes
Just cleaned this 2 kilo iron today.. Has anyone ever seen a small-ish iron with more natural hoes than this? http://www.mrmeteorite.com/holeymeteorite.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holey Iron -Has 6 Natural Holes
Natural hoes? They do it for the money, naturally. ;-) Very cool iron, Ruben! Bob L -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:42 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Holey Iron -Has 6 Natural Holes Just cleaned this 2 kilo iron today.. Has anyone ever seen a small-ish iron with more natural hoes than this? http://www.mrmeteorite.com/holeymeteorite.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4751 - Release Date: 01/18/12 __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Adam, List, 100 years from now, we'll be de-orbiting asteroids and moving them into HEO (high Earth Orbit) to chew them up as a resource. 300 years from now, we be in the Zone, dismantling them there, surveying, sampling, coring, lasering... Contaminating. Every REALLY fresh meteorite currently found on Earth now should be curated en vacuo and handled in a reasonably sterile lab manner for the next half-millennium. Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. Of course, not going to happen... unless a university does it with select specimens. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
Sweet stone Mike! Sent from Gary's iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:09 AM, ROCKS FROM SPACE rockma...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
Wow! It must have taken a handsome chunk of change to acquire this piece -- I should think a couple digits followed by four zeroes! -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
Hopefully less than a Bugatti Veyron! :-) -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:31 PM To: Matson, Robert D. Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. It was more than a new Ferrari! __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holey Iron -Has 6 Natural Holes
too many vesicles that must not be a meteorite lol! --- On Wed, 1/18/12, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Holey Iron -Has 6 Natural Holes To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 6:42 PM Just cleaned this 2 kilo iron today.. Has anyone ever seen a small-ish iron with more natural hoes than this? http://www.mrmeteorite.com/holeymeteorite.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Heat affected zone?
Sorry if this seems an elementary question. Are heat affected zones in meteorites caused during atmospheric entry/ablation? Does this stone appear to have a heat affected zone? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2546227454530set=a.2546225014469.2117331.1219094173 Regards, Eric __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
Not in my collection, already in major private collection. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Sweet stone Mike! Sent from Gary's iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:09 AM, ROCKS FROM SPACE rockma...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
It was more than a new Ferrari! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Wow! It must have taken a handsome chunk of change to acquire this piece -- I should think a couple digits followed by four zeroes! -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Hey Sterling and Adam Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. If we buy a Golden Age Passport now, can we get a Grandfather clause both to visit and to collect a daily BLM-sized 25 pounds plus one large piece up to 250 pounds per year? BTW, it seems coins found on US managed public lands over 100 years old are now in the illegal to remove column. Golden Age Passport: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_Passport Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Jan 18, 2012 2:59 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Adam, List, 100 years from now, we'll be de-orbiting asteroids and moving them into HEO (high Earth Orbit) to chew them up as a resource. 300 years from now, we be in the Zone, dismantling them there, surveying, sampling, coring, lasering... Contaminating. Every REALLY fresh meteorite currently found on Earth now should be curated en vacuo and handled in a reasonably sterile lab manner for the next half-millennium. Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. Of course, not going to happen... unless a university does it with select specimens. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson College Rodeo - February 4th
Hello all, Late January and the entire month of February are very busy days in Tucson. I don't have to mention all of the various gem and mineral shows that have during that time, but besides these shows, we also host the Accenture Match Play Championship and other events as well as two rodeos. The big one, The Tucson Rodeo, is a professional rodeo and attracts large crowds. The smaller one, the Tucson College Rodeo is hosted by the University of Arizona Rodeo Team. My wife and I try to attend both rodeos each year, but we have been struck by how good some of these college students are. In some events, the kids and animals have provided much better performances and more exciting rides than the professionals do. We actually like this rodeo better in many ways! Most years these rodeos occur well after the gem mineral shows end but this year, due to some changes in the Grand Canyon Region scheduling, this year's college rodeo is not only happening before the professional rodeo (usually it is the weekend after the big one ends), but the college rodeo is happening during the shows. I thought some on this list who have never attended a rodeo, or come from countries where they do not have rodeos, might be interested in attending. The rodeo occurs on February 4th, which is a Saturday, and is the same day as the Blood Auction. The main performance begins at 2pm but Slack begins at 8am. (Slack is when there are more contestants than can be fit into the normally scheduled performance.) The events at this rodeo are the same you'll see at most any rodeo; Saddle Bareback Bronc Riding Steer Wrestling Tie Down Team Roping Barrel Racing Breakaway Roping Goat Tying and of course everyone's favorite Bull Riding! (Sorry, no Mutton Busting) The rodeo is free as is the parking. It takes place at the Tucson Rodeo Grounds. Here is a map: http://tinyurl.com/7gtsvu7 Note the parking lots are accessed from S 3rd Ave. The other gates will probably be closed. Again, this is a free rodeo and the parking is free also. There are usually one or two food vendors on site during the events too. I hope some of you coming to Tucson in a few weeks can take a few hours and come down and enjoy the rodeo! -- Richard A. Kowalski Senior Research Specialist Catalina Sky Survey Lunar Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, Arizona __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
Awesome stone, Stunning! Thanks for posting, Michael... and Thanks for sharing, Mike!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Mars Meteorite, Main Mass?????
Holy Sky Rock, Batman! http://www.diogenite.com/HolySkyRocksBatman.mp3 http://www.diogenite.com/HolyKUFOsBatman.mp3 http://www.diogenite.com/HolyAstonomyBatman.mp3 The thickly ablated but notably bat-winged edges of this incredible specimen gives an idea of the total mass that fell Kindest wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Cc: meteorite central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net Sent: Wed, Jan 18, 2012 11:31 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Mars Meteorite, Main Mass? Heard lots of things, seeing is believing. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, Wow and congratulations!! Probably not the main massheard there were one or two that are larger---but that's just a detail. Best / d, On Jan 17, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Just a few more of the Tissint Meteorites that we have. I wonder if the big one is the Main Mass? http://meteoriteguy.com/Martians Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - January 18, 2012
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES January 18, 2012 o Many Fantastically Colorful Gullies in a Fresh Impact Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_024927_1445 This is an especially pristine crater so the slopes may be particularly steep and unstable. o Gullies in Bamberg Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_024951_2200 These gullies are of particular interest since there appears to be very little material accumulated on the floor here, unlike other craters with gullies. o Tongue-Shaped Flow Below a Scarp in Phlegra Montes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_024958_2150 The source of the material and how it was deposited here remains unclear: debris flow, landslides, or a flow of ice-rich material? o The Floor of Beer Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_025136_1650 This crater was named after German astronomer Wilhelm Beer. It is an ancient crater more than 100 kilometers across, located south of Meridiani Planum. All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heat affected zone?
e...@meteoritesusa.com skrev 2012-01-18 20:23: Sorry if this seems an elementary question. Are heat affected zones in meteorites caused during atmospheric entry/ablation? Yes, it is heating from the molten surface that is conducted into the meteorite. The depth is depending on temperature, time and heat conduction of the meteorite. Does this stone appear to have a heat affected zone? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2546227454530set=a.2546225014469.2117331.1219094173 No, to me it looks like a weathering zone. Rocks have a higher insulating factor than irons so the heated zone is a lot thinner. Weathering will depend on the porosity of the stone and can penetrate quite deep under the surface creating a colored zone. In iron meteorites the zone could be easily spotted as the Widmanstätten pattern is destroyed by heat. Regards, Eric Regards, Göran __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
If I were to tell my non-meteorite friends that someone (well, most of us, especially me!) would actually have that shiney rock than a Ferrari, they'd laugh and would never understand. I wouldn't blink at the opportunity. Mike, congrats on having your priorities in line. I spent the day realizing that I would trade my entire collection for a stellar crusted piece of Tissint. (Well, I may have to keep a few!) Unfortunately, I've made the decision to forego the expense to visit Tucson...fortunately, it is to aquire such a specimen Serious! Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. It was more than a new Ferrari! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Wow! It must have taken a handsome chunk of change to acquire this piece -- I should think a couple digits followed by four zeroes! -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson College Rodeo - February 4th
Richard K...when is the Accenture? My friend Nick might be playing...crap, now I'm rethinking my re-thinking. -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Richard A. Kowalski kowal...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson College Rodeo - February 4th Hello all, Late January and the entire month of February are very busy days in Tucson. I don't have to mention all of the various gem and mineral shows that have during that time, but besides these shows, we also host the Accenture Match Play Championship and other events as well as two rodeos. The big one, The Tucson Rodeo, is a professional rodeo and attracts large crowds. The smaller one, the Tucson College Rodeo is hosted by the University of Arizona Rodeo Team. My wife and I try to attend both rodeos each year, but we have been struck by how good some of these college students are. In some events, the kids and animals have provided much better performances and more exciting rides than the professionals do. We actually like this rodeo better in many ways! Most years these rodeos occur well after the gem mineral shows end but this year, due to some changes in the Grand Canyon Region scheduling, this year's college rodeo is not only happening before the professional rodeo (usually it is the weekend after the big one ends), but the college rodeo is happening during the shows. I thought some on this list who have never attended a rodeo, or come from countries where they do not have rodeos, might be interested in attending. The rodeo occurs on February 4th, which is a Saturday, and is the same day as the Blood Auction. The main performance begins at 2pm but Slack begins at 8am. (Slack is when there are more contestants than can be fit into the normally scheduled performance.) The events at this rodeo are the same you'll see at most any rodeo; Saddle Bareback Bronc Riding Steer Wrestling Tie Down Team Roping Barrel Racing Breakaway Roping Goat Tying and of course everyone's favorite Bull Riding! (Sorry, no Mutton Busting) The rodeo is free as is the parking. It takes place at the Tucson Rodeo Grounds. Here is a map: http://tinyurl.com/7gtsvu7 Note the parking lots are accessed from S 3rd Ave. The other gates will probably be closed. Again, this is a free rodeo and the parking is free also. There are usually one or two food vendors on site during the events too. I hope some of you coming to Tucson in a few weeks can take a few hours and come down and enjoy the rodeo! -- Richard A. Kowalski Senior Research Specialist Catalina Sky Survey Lunar Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, Arizona __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
I wonder if it's a good idea to buy parent body real estate hehe Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:20 PM, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: Hey Sterling and Adam Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. If we buy a Golden Age Passport now, can we get a Grandfather clause both to visit and to collect a daily BLM-sized 25 pounds plus one large piece up to 250 pounds per year? BTW, it seems coins found on US managed public lands over 100 years old are now in the illegal to remove column. Golden Age Passport: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_Passport Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Jan 18, 2012 2:59 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Adam, List, 100 years from now, we'll be de-orbiting asteroids and moving them into HEO (high Earth Orbit) to chew them up as a resource. 300 years from now, we be in the Zone, dismantling them there, surveying, sampling, coring, lasering... Contaminating. Every REALLY fresh meteorite currently found on Earth now should be curated en vacuo and handled in a reasonably sterile lab manner for the next half-millennium. Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. Of course, not going to happen... unless a university does it with select specimens. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson College Rodeo - February 4th
On 1/18/2012 5:21 PM, Richard Montgomery wrote: Richard K...when is the Accenture? My friend Nick might be playing...crap, now I'm rethinking my re-thinking. -Richard Montgomery Looks like it begins a few days after the gem shows end. http://www.visittucson.org/visitor/golf/matchplay/ Richard __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANS METEORITE
Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Hi Peter, Glad you are managing to get the Tucson...sad I can't make it too this year and share the experiencethe greatest show there is...I'm sure you will have a great time there...I'm very envious. Graham On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Peter Davidson p.david...@nms.ac.uk wrote: Hello List I feel we have discussed this particular topic before on the list - and at some length. In common with the Smithsonian, the AMNH and the Natural History Museum London (and many other museums) we at the National Museums Scotland do appreciate rarity and value, but like our colleagues at these museums, we cannot purchase material from certain localities including those mentioned by Jeff. I also agree with Jeff that I cannot see collections at these institutions becoming dominated by this material in the near future. Hope to see you all at Tucson this year. I will be exhibiting at the Convention centre (Minerals from Bisbee, Arizona). Come and have a look if you can. Best Wishes Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Grossman Sent: 18 January 2012 13:02 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material I guess this means that the Smithsonian, AMNH (New York) and Natural History Museum (London) curators don't recognize rarity and value. Perhaps it's something else. The fact of the matter is that large institutional collections are, in general, rather lacking in NWAs, Libyan, and Omani meteorites. This is reflected in the scientific literature. Although there are some institutional collections with a lot of hot desert meteorites, I doubt your statement that the collections in institutions will soon be dominated by hot desert meteorites. Jeff On 1/17/2012 10:42 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Most museums and institutions who recognize rarity and value now integrate world-class NWA specimens into their collections. The Royal Ontario Museum comes to mind who has an amazing collection. I think the ratio will favor hot-desert finds soon. Their beauty rarity and value cannot be ignored. A meteorite has no control where it lands. A meteorite is a still a meteorite once a meteoroid touches the Earth. We are fortunate that the Sahara desert preserves them well. Kind Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Fascinating Mummies - mummies as you've never seen them before. National Museum of Scotland, 11 Feb-27 May. www.nms.ac.uk/mummies National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bilanga(ADIO) trade for Bassikounou(H5)
Evening list, I have two really nice Bilanga specimens I'm looking to trade for a nice 100g+ Bassikounou individual. One is a 1.8g fresh encut and is really nice with tiny shock veins. The other is a 2.4g fragment with a neat shape. Bilanga was a witnessed fall at 10:30 am on October 27, 1999 in the Village of Bilanga Yanga, Burkina Faso, Africa and is classified as a rare Diogenite Achondrite. Email me off list if interested and I'll send pictures of each. Regards, Brandon D IMCA #9312 __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
G'Day Michael, Michael and whoever has now and List What an incredible day. That post by Jim Wooddell blew me away and then just to up the ante. Michael J. posts one of the most amazing images of an awesome Martian. I know you replied Michael F. that it's not yours anymore, but it reminded me of one other meteorite that I don't have which I have always wanted because of the jet black, glassy fusion crust, Puerto Lapice. Thank you very much for such a delightful day of images. Cheers Humbly, John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE
I thought St Robert Quebec was also a recorded fall .The 12th I believethat would be 14 then Regards Simon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Frank Cressy Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:13 PM To: John.L.Cabassi; Shawn Alan; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
Hello All If you like, take a look at this link which provides a graph of the 13 meteorite. http://flic.kr/p/bf9EYZ Shawn IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net To: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn, Frank and List Wow. Definitely pays to be educated. I appreciate everyone's input and I truly appreciate it. I stand corrected and now I'm researching where I went wrong. Thank you everyone. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:51 PM To: Frank Cressy; John.L.Cabassi; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE Hello All If you like, take a look at this link which provides a graph of the 13 meteorite. http://flic.kr/p/bf9EYZ Shawn IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net To: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass
