[meteorite-list] 14JUN2012 meteor video now posted
Dear List, 240+ reports now! The meteor shows clear fragmentation... rocks!!!? A video of the meteor is now posted from the 14JUN2012 event: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-ontario.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Cat Mountain Contributed by: Bob King http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 14JUN2012 meteor video now posted
Wow, that was pretty impressive. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: = Dear List, 240+ reports now! The meteor shows clear fragmentation... rocks!!!? A video of the meteor is now posted from the 14JUN2012 event: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-ontario.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: H metachondrite
Hello List i have an H metachondrite weigh 2970g for sale confirmed by Dr Tony Irving if anyone interested plz feel free to contacte me best regards -- Rachid Chaoui IMCA # 4157 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The term hammer fall
Hi Jim and List, No need to apologize. This discussion has been (for some) : a) interesting b) fun c) horribly redundant d) cruel to horses e) epic f) none of the above A key point to remember, when considering the virtues of the term hammer fall or the merit of this discussion is : the hammerheads on this list were minding their own business, when it was strongly suggested that were are scammers who are trying to confuse innocent collectors and swindle them out of their money by engaging in marketing. We (or I) weren't going around in public proselytizing the usage of the term and encouraging others to use it. We were not engaging in any campaign to promote hammerheadery or launching salvos against those that do not use the term. I simply defended myself (and a small handful of others) from negative allegations regarding the way in which we choose to enjoy our common hobby. Mike Farmer is suggesting I am retarded. I'm used to that and wear it as a badge of honor when one of the world's best meteorite hunters takes time out of this day to single me out as mentally deficient. As for everyone else, I will only say this - there are a few of us (although I only speak for myself here), who didn't want our participation in this hobby needlessly nit-picked, so we avoided joining IMNPA. Of course, my membership in the IMNPA was shelved because I have 5% Swahili and 2% Beatnik in my bloodline, but that is another story... Jim has said it best I think - Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. I asked a specimen of Park Forest today if it feels more important because it is arbitrarily labeled a hammer fall by a small percentage of dealers and collectors. It hasn't answered me yet. When it does finally answer me, I'm not sure I will understand it because I'm not educated or knowledgeable enough. I will forward the answer, when I receive it, to the IMNPA for decryption and interpretation. Hopefully then this poor horse can be laid to rest. In the meantime, there is an episode of Jersey Shore on TV today that I am going to watch. It is a new episode where Snooki and J-Wow debate the merits of orientation feature terminology as it pertains to meteorites. I'm definitely going to TIVO this one. :) Best regards and happy collecting, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- On 6/15/12, James Masny sciflye...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to continue the torture of the horse. I have purchased many different falls and finds from hunters/dealers that contribute to this fine list. Not that my opinion as a small collector matters to the masses, but for me, the term hammer fall is irrelevant. If I want a rock that hit a particular something, I buy a hammer stone of a fall. If not, I buy a spacerock that appeals both aesthetically and scientifically to me.. Arguing over the semantics could continue indefinitely. Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. Just my two cents Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO Asteroid 2012 LZ1 Fear Mongering andProfiteering 14/15JUN2012
Amazing---since others have come MUCH closer previously. Kirk - Original Message - From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NEO Asteroid 2012 LZ1 Fear Mongering andProfiteering 14/15JUN2012 Dear List, Internet rumors are out of control concerning 2012 LZ1 hitting Earth. I have had several hundreds of people searching my website for info concerning this asteroid passing. NEO Asteroid 2012 LZ1 Fear Mongering on Internet NEO asteroid 2012 LZ1 is NOT going to hit the Earth... http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/neo-asteroid-2012-lz1-fear-mongering.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The term hammer fall
Thanks Mike! Good for a chuckle this morning!! Kirk - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: James Masny sciflye...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The term hammer fall Hi Jim and List, No need to apologize. This discussion has been (for some) : a) interesting b) fun c) horribly redundant d) cruel to horses e) epic f) none of the above A key point to remember, when considering the virtues of the term hammer fall or the merit of this discussion is : the hammerheads on this list were minding their own business, when it was strongly suggested that were are scammers who are trying to confuse innocent collectors and swindle them out of their money by engaging in marketing. We (or I) weren't going around in public proselytizing the usage of the term and encouraging others to use it. We were not engaging in any campaign to promote hammerheadery or launching salvos against those that do not use the term. I simply defended myself (and a small handful of others) from negative allegations regarding the way in which we choose to enjoy our common hobby. Mike Farmer is suggesting I am retarded. I'm used to that and wear it as a badge of honor when one of the world's best meteorite hunters takes time out of this day to single me out as mentally deficient. As for everyone else, I will only say this - there are a few of us (although I only speak for myself here), who didn't want our participation in this hobby needlessly nit-picked, so we avoided joining IMNPA. Of course, my membership in the IMNPA was shelved because I have 5% Swahili and 2% Beatnik in my bloodline, but that is another story... Jim has said it best I think - Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. I asked a specimen of Park Forest today if it feels more important because it is arbitrarily labeled a hammer fall by a small percentage of dealers and collectors. It hasn't answered me yet. When it does finally answer me, I'm not sure I will understand it because I'm not educated or knowledgeable enough. I will forward the answer, when I receive it, to the IMNPA for decryption and interpretation. Hopefully then this poor horse can be laid to rest. In the meantime, there is an episode of Jersey Shore on TV today that I am going to watch. It is a new episode where Snooki and J-Wow debate the merits of orientation feature terminology as it pertains to meteorites. I'm definitely going to TIVO this one. :) Best regards and happy collecting, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- On 6/15/12, James Masny sciflye...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to continue the torture of the horse. I have purchased many different falls and finds from hunters/dealers that contribute to this fine list. Not that my opinion as a small collector matters to the masses, but for me, the term hammer fall is irrelevant. If I want a rock that hit a particular something, I buy a hammer stone of a fall. If not, I buy a spacerock that appeals both aesthetically and scientifically to me.. Arguing over the semantics could continue indefinitely. Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. Just my two cents Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteowrongs on ebay
Hi Werner and List, I asked myself the same question. However, I do own a couple kilos of these same specimens. Why? Because I was hoping the seller made a mistake and some of the stones might actually be meteorites. I windowed several of them and all of them are indeed wrongs. Now I have a big box of meteorwrongs that look like desert-varnished, weathered, unclassified chondrites. I've sold a few of them as meteorwrongs, but I wouldn't pay to have a crate of them freighted to me from overseas. My guess is, he bought a big load of meteorites and this is the flotsam that was mixed in, and now he is trying to get back some of his investment by offering them as wrongs? Best regards, MikeG PS - some of them are very convincing at first-glance. -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- On 6/14/12, WS Schroer schr...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello listees, first up, I'm not the seller of the rocks in this listing: http://tinyurl.com/7ahpvh3 I wonder why someone paid the freight for a bunch of rocks from Morocco ? (There's another smaller lot.) And I also wonder why anybody would want to buy these rocks. Could it be that they are part of a large consignment bought by a meteorite dealer and just the rubbish that came with a ton of real meteorites ? I hope they will not turn into real meteorites and end up in people's collection. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Met Bull Updated - Over 1000 new Antarctic approvals
Hi Bulletin Watchers, 1034 new approvals today. All are from Japan's Antarctic program. Most are the usual assortment of tiny paired OC fragments, but there are a few interesting ones hiding in the mix. Link - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2Asfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=2pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=1 Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: June 11-15, 2012
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES June 11-15, 2012 o Olympus Mons (11 June 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5912 o Landslide (12 June 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5913 o Daedalia Planum (13 June 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5914 o Daedalia Planum (14 June 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5915 o Ascraeus Mons (15 June 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5916 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Releases Workshop Data and Findings on Asteroid 2011 AG5
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news175.html Dwayne Brown Headquarters, WashingtonJune 15, 2012 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov RELEASE: 12-189 NASA RELEASES WORKSHOP DATA AND FINDINGS ON ASTEROID 2011 AG5 WASHINGTON -- Researchers anticipate that asteroid 2011 AG5, discovered in January 2011, will fly safely past and not impact Earth in 2040. Current findings and analysis data were reported at a May 29 workshop at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., attended by scientists and engineers from around the world. Discussions focused on observations of potentially hazardous asteroids (PHAs). Observations to date indicate there is a slight chance that AG5 could impact Earth in 2040. Attendees expressed confidence that in the next four years, analysis of space and ground-based observations will show the likelihood of 2011 AG5 missing Earth to be greater than 99 percent. Measuring approximately 460 feet (140 meters) in size, the space rock was discovered by the NASA-supported Catalina Sky Survey operated by the University of Arizona in Tucson. Several observatories monitored 2011 AG5 for nine months before it moved too far away and grew too faint to see. While there is general consensus there is only a very small chance that we could be dealing with a real impact scenario for this object, we will still be watchful and ready to take further action if additional observations indicate it is warranted, said Lindley Johnson, program executive for the Near-Earth Object (NEO) Observation Program at NASA Headquarters in Washington. Several years ago another asteroid, named Apophis, was thought to pose a similar impact threat in 2036. Additional observations taken from 2005 through 2008 enabled NASA scientists to refine their understanding of the asteroid's path, which showed a significantly reduced likelihood of a hazardous encounter. Any time we're able to observe an asteroid and obtain new location data, we're able to refine our calculations of the asteroid's future path, said Don Yeomans, manager of NASA's NEO Program Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif. When few observations exist, our initial orbit calculation will include a wider swath to account for uncertainties. With more data points, the knowledge of the potential positions of the asteroid improves and the swath becomes smaller -- typically eliminating the risk of an impact. Observations of 2011 AG5 have been limited to date because of its present location beyond the orbit of Mars and in the daytime sky on the other side of the sun. In fall 2013, conditions will improve to allow space- and ground-based telescopes to better track the asteroid's path. At that time, 2011 AG5 will be 91 million miles (147 million kilometers) from Earth but favorably located for observations in the late evening sky. The level of hazard will gain even more clarity in 2023, when the asteroid is approximately 1.1 million miles (1.8 million kilometers) from Earth. If 2011 AG5 passes through a 227-mile-wide (365-kilometer) region in space called a keyhole in early February 2023, Earth's gravitational pull could influence the object's orbital path just enough to bring it back for an impact on February 5, 2040. If the asteroid misses the keyhole, an impact in 2040 will not occur. Given our current understanding of this asteroid's orbit, there is only a very remote chance of this keyhole passage even occurring, said Johnson. Although scientists widely expect it to be a safe flyby, they acknowledge the slight chance that computed odds could rise as a result of observations to be taken from 2013 to 2016. According to the experts at the workshop, even if the odds do increase, there is still ample time to plan and carry out at least one of several viable missions to change the asteroid's course. PHAs are a subset of the larger group of near-Earth asteroids. They have the closest orbits to Earth's, coming within 5 million miles (about 8 million kilometers). They are large enough to enter Earth's atmosphere intact and cause damage on at least a local scale. Damage from an asteroid the size of 2011 AG5 could cover a region at least a hundred miles wide. NASA established the NEO Program in 1998 to coordinate the agency's efforts to detect, track and characterize Earth-approaching NEOs and comets larger than 1 kilometer in size. The program now also searches for NEOs as small as object 2011 AG5. NASA supports NEO observation, tracking and analysis activities worldwide. Activities are coordinated through the NEO Program Office at JPL. To read the workshop report and findings, visit: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ For information about NASA asteroid missions and activities, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/asteroids -end- The following documents are available with this release: * JPL Report on 2011 AG5
Re: [meteorite-list] Linseed/Flaxseed Oil
Ok, thank you William. I knew about the auto ignition properties of this oil, on rags or brushes. My question doesn't seem to interest my dear fellow listers Anyway Great weekend to all Michael B. -- From: William Bagwell rb...@tds.net Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:53 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Linseed/Flaxseed Oil Apologies to those who already know this. The old warning about oily rags catching fire is true, just that petroleum oil is very unlikely to do this so most people ignore the warnings. Natural oils are more likely to do this, with Linseed/Flaxseed topping the list. Not only can it catch fire, it *will* catch fire if left wadded up. Sorry, I have no clue about using it on meteorites. Be great on wooden handled magnet sticks. -- William On Thursday 14 June 2012, Michael Bross wrote: Hi everyone By sheer coincidence I met someone advising to use Linseed/Flaxseed oil to protect and finish an antique wood furniture. (from my 100 years old grandma, btw) He also uses that oil to protect and nourish very old coins or other old, oxidized artifacts he founds. Has anyone used that oil for meteorites ? I am thinking about potentially high rusting meteorites... And... what are the outcomes ? Thanks for any feedback Michael B. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMNPA
Hi Mike and all, Mike, please decode the acronym IMNPA Thanks, Michael On 6/15/12 6:49 AM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim and List, No need to apologize. This discussion has been (for some) : a) interesting b) fun c) horribly redundant d) cruel to horses e) epic f) none of the above A key point to remember, when considering the virtues of the term hammer fall or the merit of this discussion is : the hammerheads on this list were minding their own business, when it was strongly suggested that were are scammers who are trying to confuse innocent collectors and swindle them out of their money by engaging in marketing. We (or I) weren't going around in public proselytizing the usage of the term and encouraging others to use it. We were not engaging in any campaign to promote hammerheadery or launching salvos against those that do not use the term. I simply defended myself (and a small handful of others) from negative allegations regarding the way in which we choose to enjoy our common hobby. Mike Farmer is suggesting I am retarded. I'm used to that and wear it as a badge of honor when one of the world's best meteorite hunters takes time out of this day to single me out as mentally deficient. As for everyone else, I will only say this - there are a few of us (although I only speak for myself here), who didn't want our participation in this hobby needlessly nit-picked, so we avoided joining IMNPA. Of course, my membership in the IMNPA was shelved because I have 5% Swahili and 2% Beatnik in my bloodline, but that is another story... Jim has said it best I think - Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. I asked a specimen of Park Forest today if it feels more important because it is arbitrarily labeled a hammer fall by a small percentage of dealers and collectors. It hasn't answered me yet. When it does finally answer me, I'm not sure I will understand it because I'm not educated or knowledgeable enough. I will forward the answer, when I receive it, to the IMNPA for decryption and interpretation. Hopefully then this poor horse can be laid to rest. In the meantime, there is an episode of Jersey Shore on TV today that I am going to watch. It is a new episode where Snooki and J-Wow debate the merits of orientation feature terminology as it pertains to meteorites. I'm definitely going to TIVO this one. :) Best regards and happy collecting, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sort of OT (except for Brix!): North Las Vegas bobcat
Hi Rob, I was working that night when the incident occurred. Georgia heard Brix barking and a large cat screaming. Georgia shined a light in the direction and saw the fight. During the fight she thought she had seen a second set of eyes on the block wall as Brix was on the ground with the other animal.The Department of Wildlife officer thought the fur that was found on the wall and kennel looked like it may possibly be a bobcat but the large covered scant piles did not match a bobcat scant.The officer's only explanation regarding the large scant piles could possibly be from a bobcat that was eating dog food form one of the neighbors yards. I'm still not sure what kind of animal it was. The cat was a little shorter than Brix by 8-10 and not as long but stocky. The animal hung around also for around 15-20 minutes from start to finish. For me, the news story was disturbingly ignorant about bobcats on many levels, and it is a shame that the slant seemed designed to stoke the irrational fears that some people have about them. Yes I feel the same way. I have seen many bobcats in the field and they act just like a house cat curious and slow moving. Also my thoughts would be to leave the cat alone and let it live.The animal has been around for at lest six months and has never caused any problems before and I really doubt it will come back. I have also closed the gate to the kennel to keep Brix from area just in case it does come back. Sonny -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 11:37 am Subject: Sort of OT (except for Brix!): North Las Vegas bobcat Hi Sonny, Glad to hear Brix is fine! Is your neighborhood sure the interloper was a bobcat? No way would a bobcat ~intentionally~ go up against a German Shepherd, or any comparably-sized dog. They are quite shy of humans and large dogs; a Brix-bobcat encounter pretty much requires the cat to accidentally enter the yard not knowing a dog is present. In such cases, I should think the cat would be quite lucky to survive the encounter. For me, the news story was disturbingly ignorant about bobcats on many levels, and it is a shame that the slant seemed designed to stoke the irrational fears that some people have about them. Yes, if you have a Maltese in your backyard, a bobcat might have it for lunch. But more likely a coyote would get to it first. In my neighborhood when there is a bobcat sighting, the police come out and educate the homeowners that they are natural, not a danger, and not to be concerned about them. Yes, they will go after small animals if given the opportunity, but coyotes are far more aggressive ... and far more numerous. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMNPA
Bingo. LOL. Officially, it's the IMNPA Local #222. Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- On 6/15/12, PAUL KURIMSKY kd...@flash.net wrote: Just a guess, International Meteorite Nit Pickers Association? LOL --- Paul Kurimsky kd...@flash.net --- On Fri, 6/15/12, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMNPA To: Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, James Masny sciflye...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 12:55 PM Hi Mike and all, Mike, please decode the acronym IMNPA Thanks, Michael On 6/15/12 6:49 AM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim and List, No need to apologize. This discussion has been (for some) : a) interesting b) fun c) horribly redundant d) cruel to horses e) epic f) none of the above A key point to remember, when considering the virtues of the term hammer fall or the merit of this discussion is : the hammerheads on this list were minding their own business, when it was strongly suggested that were are scammers who are trying to confuse innocent collectors and swindle them out of their money by engaging in marketing. We (or I) weren't going around in public proselytizing the usage of the term and encouraging others to use it. We were not engaging in any campaign to promote hammerheadery or launching salvos against those that do not use the term. I simply defended myself (and a small handful of others) from negative allegations regarding the way in which we choose to enjoy our common hobby. Mike Farmer is suggesting I am retarded. I'm used to that and wear it as a badge of honor when one of the world's best meteorite hunters takes time out of this day to single me out as mentally deficient. As for everyone else, I will only say this - there are a few of us (although I only speak for myself here), who didn't want our participation in this hobby needlessly nit-picked, so we avoided joining IMNPA. Of course, my membership in the IMNPA was shelved because I have 5% Swahili and 2% Beatnik in my bloodline, but that is another story... Jim has said it best I think - Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter. I asked a specimen of Park Forest today if it feels more important because it is arbitrarily labeled a hammer fall by a small percentage of dealers and collectors. It hasn't answered me yet. When it does finally answer me, I'm not sure I will understand it because I'm not educated or knowledgeable enough. I will forward the answer, when I receive it, to the IMNPA for decryption and interpretation. Hopefully then this poor horse can be laid to rest. In the meantime, there is an episode of Jersey Shore on TV today that I am going to watch. It is a new episode where Snooki and J-Wow debate the merits of orientation feature terminology as it pertains to meteorites. I'm definitely going to TIVO this one. :) Best regards and happy collecting, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 14 June 2012 northern Michigan meteor
Hi All, Using Google Streetview, I was able to determine that the video was taken from northbound highway 131 just before exit 84A (Wealthy St.) heading toward Grand Rapids. Approximate coordinates of 42.95343N, 85.67195W. Since the driver is heading NNE, the meteor was far to the northeast on a very flat, right-to-left trajectory. This would put the fall somewhere in very northern Michigan -- assuming it didn't end up in Lake Huron or Lake Michigan. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of drtanuki Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 14JUN2012 meteor video now posted Dear List, 240+ reports now! The meteor shows clear fragmentation... rocks!!!? A video of the meteor is now posted from the 14JUN2012 event: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/breaking-news-mbiq-dete cts-ontario.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] England, UK Meteor ~23:30 BST 15JUN2012 w/ fragmentation
Dear List, Yet another! 15-20 reports already. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/england-uk-meteor-15jun2012.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill meteorite fall caricature drawing I WANT TO DRAW A CAT FOR YOU :))))))))))
Hello Listers I want to draw a cat for you... Well I didnt draw the cat, but Steve did, and this is what I had him draw for the meteorite community Shawn GIFTED a cat to Meteorite Community. He wanted a meteorite crashing to the ground in a mountain town, and turning cats into meteorite zombies! NASA is looking for the meteorites too! http://iwanttodrawacatforyou.com/?p=11267 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ontario Meteor over 200 reports
Dear List, Just curious... This meteor fireball passed at approx 22:00 hrs on 6/14/12. There was also a near-earth astroid 2012LZ1 (nearly a city block wide) that was supposed to pass by at approx 23:00 hrs on 6/14/12. Could this have been a co-traveler (stragler) with the 2012LZ1 main mass? Any relation? Anybody know? Jonathan - Original Message - From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ontario Meteor over 200 reports Dear List, This event was seen by hundreds. Breaking News -MBIQ Detects Ontario, Canada Meteor Fireball 14JUN2012 Breaking Meteor News - MBIQ Detects Ontario, Canada Meteor Fireball ~21:54 14JUN2012 http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
