Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Met with Petrus Jenniskens tonight in Novato at the at the original find site in order to re-examine the "N01" stone (which had been returned to the finders). This was my first opportunity to examine this stone. I had my small microscope with me and I took some snap-shots down the eye-piece (see below). I will not comment on these images, preferring instead to honor Peter's request to "keep tuned" and allow him to make the first (second?third?) announcement. But I do want to thank the Rivera Family for inviting Peter and myself for dinner tonight. The food and wine were delicious, and the conversation was enthusiastic and jubilant (and not just because the Giants won game 1 of the World Series). A photo of Luis Rivera appears on the front page of today's local newspaper (Novato Advance): http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Meteorite-Discovered-in-Novato-Yard-175158691.html http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-60.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-63.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-68.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-72.jpg Images courtesy of Bob Verish. --- On Wed, 10/24/12, karmaka wrote: > From: karmaka > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is > Just a Rock > To: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" , > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:14 PM > Hold on and keep tuned ! > > " 2012, October 23 - There are more developments today. An > apology may have been too hssty. We are waiting for > confirmation of the new insight. Keep tuned." > http://cams.seti.org/ > > Let's quote Phil: > > "This is turning into a mystery wrapped inside an enigma." > ;-) > > Martin > > > > Von: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" > An: > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato > Meteorite is Just a Rock > Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:39:12 +0200 > > Shawn, > > I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite > either. Has it been > examined by an expert? > > Phil Whitmer > Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum > > > Hello Listers > > Just found this, might be interesting for others that are > hunting for > meteorites in Novato area. > > "After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last > Wednesday evening, > scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for > pieces of the meteor > that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. > On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute > who reported over > the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found > after it hit the > roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected > meteorite discovered > there is actually a natural rock. > Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his > NASA Ames Research > Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the > University of > California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by > something during the > fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the > meteorite remains > elusive. > After an examination using a petrographic microscope > Monday, Jenniskens was > able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. > He wrote Tuesday, "I sincerely thought it was, based on > what appeared to me > was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust > was a product of > weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry." > The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a > magnet, according to > information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific > and education > organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other > foundations and > research groups" > > source: > > http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock > > The sample that was first found looks like the second > sample that was found. > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse > @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails > haben. > http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Hold on and keep tuned ! " 2012, October 23 - There are more developments today. An appology may have been too hssty. We are waiting for confirmation of the new insight. Keep tuned." http://cams.seti.org/ Let's quote Phil: "This is turning into a mystery wrapped inside an enigma." ;-) Martin Von: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" An: Betreff: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:39:12 +0200 Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. "After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, "I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry." The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups" source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay ad - Novato - Mill Valley, CA Meteorite Ordinary Chondrite slice 6.6 grams
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[meteorite-list] Error of meteoric proportions: Meteorite is just an Earth rock
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[meteorite-list] AD : Ebay Auction Martian NWA6963, Lodranite NWA 3341, NWA 753 - Munich Show
Hello List, Here is some Ebay Auction ending in few days. You will find martian, Lodranite, Rumuruti, Eucrites and more nice meteorites. stores.ebay.com/SAHARA-NAYZAK-METEORITES/AUCTIONS For the Munich Show, I will be at the Hall A5, Stand Number A5.119. You are welcome to visit us and see our nice meteorites. All the best Mohammed HMANI I.M.C.A #0153 www.sahara-nayzak.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Ebay Auction Martian NWA6963, Lodranite NWA 3341, NWA 753 - Munich Show
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[meteorite-list] a possible huge fall in the south of Morocco
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[meteorite-list] Picture of the first Novato meteorite slice
I had the meteorite looked at by Mike Martinez in Lathrop this morning and we did three slices. Unfortunately his blade wasn't long enough to make a clean cut. But it's good enough. http://briencook.com/Novato_2012-10-22/Novatoslice.JPG -Brien ___ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Budha statue analysis
Hi List, I had meant to comment on this when Martin posted his most recent links calling into question the media-accepted story of the statue. I am not an expert in Tibetan culture, but I do study and practice Tibetan Buddhism. My first gut instinct on seeing the statue was that it was a genuine period item, but not created by Tibetan or Eastern craftsman. It looked, to me, like an European or Western interpretation of Eastern motifs. Upon reading the report pointing out the discrepancies in the statue and it's provenance, it seems apparent that the stated origin is dubious. Nobody is challenging the meteoritic origin. The statue appears to be genuine iron meteorite. Everything else is up for debate. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 10/24/12, E.P. Grondine wrote: > Hi all - > > http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/recently-discovered-meteorite-buddha-with-swastika-likely-a-fake-a-862919.html > > Now the question is who made it and why. > > E.P. > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Budha statue analysis
Hi all - http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/recently-discovered-meteorite-buddha-with-swastika-likely-a-fake-a-862919.html Now the question is who made it and why. E.P. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Well, the first four letters of Novato are Nova, which is the Met Bull designation for meteorites of uncertain origin. ;) It's also Spanish for "No Go", literally. So is Novato the real deal, or is it a bust? Outside of the initial hammer-wrong and Brien's report, we aren't hearing reports from anyone else. Has anyone else found a specimen or confirmed Brien's stone? Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 10/24/12, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: > Shawn, > > I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been > examined by an expert? > > Phil Whitmer > Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum > > > Hello Listers > > Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for > meteorites in Novato area. > > "After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, > scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor > that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. > On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over > the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the > roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered > there is actually a natural rock. > Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research > > Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of > California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the > fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains > elusive. > After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was > > able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. > He wrote Tuesday, "I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me > > was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of > > weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry." > The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to > information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education > organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and > research groups" > > source: > http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock > > The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was > found. > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. "After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, "I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry." The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups" source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 5667 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. "After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, "I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry." The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups" source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
