[meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Hi List, This is more of a OMG, did you see the prices message, although it is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers. For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane price increase: https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95 (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to $19.95 (over 50%!). Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for some places seem to have gone up 125%! Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping suggestions, feel free to chime in. -Yinan Wang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Donations to Museums
John I have not heard from Rob about this. If this is recognised, then I am happy to consider putting in an offer. Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Pict Sent: 25 January 2013 15:46 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Donations to Museums Thankyou very much Shawn. Hope there are plans for display in Chambers St. Did anything ever come of the following story I am wondering. Was it part of the 1830 fall or did it turn out to be a new find or an m.w.? http://news.stv.tv/tayside/193361-meteorite-rocks-believed-to-be-worth-1m-f ound-in-potato-field/ Regards, John On 25/01/2013 13:51, Peter Davidson p.david...@nms.ac.uk wrote: Dear List Members I would like to bring to the attention of the list, news of a wonderful piece of generosity. Mr Shawn A Rinoehl (who signs off as Shawn Alan) of Brooklyn, NYC has very kindly donated a fragment of the High Possil meteorite which fell near Glasgow, Scotland in April 1804. This piece of L6 Chondrite may not have the status of a Martian or Carbonaceous Chondrite, but to me it is of vital importance. This now means that we have in our collection, fragments of three of the four known Scottish meteorites. The only one missing now is the Perth fall (LL5 Ordinary Chondrite, May 1830). I have of course thanked Shawn off list and asked his permission to make my gratitude and his generosity much more public through the MetList. Thank you Shawn Have a great weekend everyone Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January - 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard
To my meteorite friends who live in Tucson or familiar with the place: This is my first time to attending the show, and I had made the plan to drive by myself from the TUS international airport to the hotel I booked and drive to those show places. In that condition, I need to purchase a monthly phonecard or a pay-in-advance phonecard to provide an internet access for my Iphone, so that I can use the google map thru the phone and get my way easily. Could anyone tell me where is the nearest place to purchase the phonecard around the TUS international airport, and how much it will cost for a monthly card with 1G internet flow rate? Any replies or suggestions will be appreciated, many thanks! Bryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard
To my meteorite friends who live in Tucson or familiar with the place: This is my first time to attending the show, and I had made the plan to drive by myself from the TUS international airport to the hotel I booked and drive to those show places. In that condition, I need to purchase a monthly phonecard or a pay-in-advance phonecard to provide an internet access for my Iphone, so that I can use the google map thru the phone and get my way easily. Could anyone tell me where is the nearest place to purchase the phonecard around the TUS international airport, and how much it will cost for a monthly card with 1G internet flow rate? Any replies or suggestions will be appreciated, many thanks! Bryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
This is typical of USPS and Government in general. Give absolutely no warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last possible second. There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act. As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases. I remember 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is now exactly double at $5.60. How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years? The government should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a drunken gambler. At least the gambler is spending his own money. Most of us are forced to live within our means! I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price hike. We go through this once or twice a year. Happy Shipping, Adam - Original Message - From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Hi List, This is more of a OMG, did you see the prices message, although it is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers. For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane price increase: https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95 (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to $19.95 (over 50%!). Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for some places seem to have gone up 125%! Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping suggestions, feel free to chime in. -Yinan Wang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard
Hi there, I cannot help you with the following but I hope to meet you as I go to China often. All the best, Darryl On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:22 AM, 博方 李 wrote: To my meteorite friends who live in Tucson or familiar with the place: This is my first time to attending the show, and I had made the plan to drive by myself from the TUS international airport to the hotel I booked and drive to those show places. In that condition, I need to purchase a monthly phonecard or a pay-in-advance phonecard to provide an internet access for my Iphone, so that I can use the google map thru the phone and get my way easily. Could anyone tell me where is the nearest place to purchase the phonecard around the TUS international airport, and how much it will cost for a monthly card with 1G internet flow rate? Any replies or suggestions will be appreciated, many thanks! Bryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week. It still sucks though. Gripe +1. This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors. A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays. Now I wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer. This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage. There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far. I'll replace the occasional damaged one when the situation arises, so it's worth it to keep the overall costs down a bit. The international increase is the worst part. I ship a lot of First Class International packages to places like Canada and the UK. Some of these could be shipped for $4 or less. Heck, a small bubble mailer to Canada often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same package to Hawaii or Alaska. I guess that has changed now. It's bad enough the customs short form now requires 10 minutes of standing in line for each package, and now this. Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not that long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or quality of service paid for has not. It's the same as most consumer goods or services over the last decade - less for more. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is typical of USPS and Government in general. Give absolutely no warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last possible second. There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act. As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases. I remember 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is now exactly double at $5.60. How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years? The government should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a drunken gambler. At least the gambler is spending his own money. Most of us are forced to live within our means! I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price hike. We go through this once or twice a year. Happy Shipping, Adam - Original Message - From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Hi List, This is more of a OMG, did you see the prices message, although it is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers. For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane price increase: https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95 (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to $19.95 (over 50%!). Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for some places seem to have gone up 125%! Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping suggestions, feel free to chime in. -Yinan Wang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard
Actuallymhmm You can just pick up a map when you rent a car. Old school. Hopefully others can be of assistance. Best / d On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: Hi there, I cannot help you with the following but I hope to meet you as I go to China often. All the best, Darryl On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:22 AM, 博方 李 wrote: To my meteorite friends who live in Tucson or familiar with the place: This is my first time to attending the show, and I had made the plan to drive by myself from the TUS international airport to the hotel I booked and drive to those show places. In that condition, I need to purchase a monthly phonecard or a pay-in-advance phonecard to provide an internet access for my Iphone, so that I can use the google map thru the phone and get my way easily. Could anyone tell me where is the nearest place to purchase the phonecard around the TUS international airport, and how much it will cost for a monthly card with 1G internet flow rate? Any replies or suggestions will be appreciated, many thanks! Bryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] British Museum
Extreme long shot but hey, that's what meteorites are all about. Turns out I have a 4 to 6 hour window tomorrow (Tuesday from 2pm on) to visit the British Museum Meteorite collection. So, anyone want to join me? Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Another one of the reasons I'm cutting back on my meteorite and mineral purchases from the U.S. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
I just got hammered with the price increases this morning. I shipped a medium flat rate box. On Saturday it would have cost $47.95 (the rate I charged my customer, actually that Ebay charged them) for $45 worth of merchandise. Today cost $59.95. So I ate the $12 additional cost. My 5 oz box to Germany on Saturday would have cost ~$5 today $12.75! So be prepared when you go to the USPS for some significant price increases especially for international. Mike Jensen On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week. It still sucks though. Gripe +1. This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors. A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays. Now I wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer. This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage. There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far. I'll replace the occasional damaged one when the situation arises, so it's worth it to keep the overall costs down a bit. The international increase is the worst part. I ship a lot of First Class International packages to places like Canada and the UK. Some of these could be shipped for $4 or less. Heck, a small bubble mailer to Canada often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same package to Hawaii or Alaska. I guess that has changed now. It's bad enough the customs short form now requires 10 minutes of standing in line for each package, and now this. Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not that long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or quality of service paid for has not. It's the same as most consumer goods or services over the last decade - less for more. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is typical of USPS and Government in general. Give absolutely no warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last possible second. There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act. As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases. I remember 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is now exactly double at $5.60. How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years? The government should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a drunken gambler. At least the gambler is spending his own money. Most of us are forced to live within our means! I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price hike. We go through this once or twice a year. Happy Shipping, Adam - Original Message - From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Hi List, This is more of a OMG, did you see the prices message, although it is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers. For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane price increase: https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95 (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to $19.95 (over 50%!). Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for some places seem to have gone up 125%! Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping suggestions, feel free to chime in. -Yinan Wang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Adam and all! Have you seen this? http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-paper-capitalism-out-marxisim-in-2013-1?google_editors_picks=true Jim On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment walking on that and that road.. Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny: At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone. Hence it was a zero-information. And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report where you are. Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road, Becauuse he comes, when he comes. All other information is irrelevant. Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption could be risen, if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it? Alas, Children, we survived these old times, without problems. On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today. Today we suffered horrible deformations. Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me, and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing, which would have taken easily 3 weeks. Skol Martin PS: Iiiieeek! German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in Germany buying stamps is VAT-free. Always those communists (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm typing this posting... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12 An: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week. It still sucks though. Gripe +1. This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors. A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays. Now I wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer. This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage. There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far. I'll replace the occasional damaged one when the situation arises, so it's worth it to keep the overall costs down a bit. The international increase is the worst part. I ship a lot of First Class International packages to places like Canada and the UK. Some of these could be shipped for $4 or less. Heck, a small bubble mailer to Canada often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same package to Hawaii or Alaska. I guess that has changed now. It's bad enough the customs short form now requires 10 minutes of standing in line for each package, and now this. Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not that long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or quality of service paid for has not. It's the same as most consumer goods or services over the last decade - less for more. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is typical of USPS and Government in general. Give absolutely no warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last possible second. There are going to be a lot of shocked
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
(PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) I am all for peace, not war but I refuse to stick my head in the sand and ignore what is happening. Sure housing and electronics are cheap but virtually none of friends around here has been able to hang onto their homes. It is like I live in a ghost town having over half the people pack up and move into cheap rentals. Perhaps if the U.S. Post office embraced technology, they could lower their rates. Instead, I am forced to wait for a clerk who cannot type and keep up with all of the poorly thought out changes. There is barley enough room to write in addresses on their new customs form and their online software will not even run on every browser! I was forced to purchase a very expensive Zebra direct-thermal printer for postage and their international software doesn't work. This is what happens when entities become too large to communicate with their own staff or really care about their customers. I am beginning to believe that robots could do a better job. At least they do not show up to work with a category 5 hangover and complain about being underpaid. Happy Shipping, Adam - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment walking on that and that road.. Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny: At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone. Hence it was a zero-information. And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report where you are. Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road, Becauuse he comes, when he comes. All other information is irrelevant. Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption could be risen, if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it? Alas, Children, we survived these old times, without problems. On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today. Today we suffered horrible deformations. Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me, and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing, which would have taken easily 3 weeks. Skol Martin PS: Iiiieeek! German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in Germany buying stamps is VAT-free. Always those communists (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm typing this posting... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12 An: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week. It still sucks though. Gripe +1. This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors. A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays. Now I wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer. This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage. There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far. I'll
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Hi Martin and List, Oh I do remember the good old days. When important people carried beepers and they were still dime payphones on every corner. I could fuel my gashog Camaro at 83 cents a gallon and a pack of Marlboros was $1.75. A movie ticket was $3. Minimum wage was $3.35 an hour at my first job. The internet didn't yet exist and I downloaded software from dial-up BBS's at 300 baud. It would take all night, sometimes 8-10 hours, just to download a game that took up two floppy disks. One hiccup of line noise and the whole thing had to be scrapped and re-downloaded. Rotary phone in the kitchen that had a long coiled cord that could be stretched halfway across the house and through two doorways was usually my internet connection. The handset would be unplugged and the cord plugged into the modem. How many people remember the old IRC's? International Reply Coupons. These were once standard fare when making small purchases from overseas vendors - typically used when requesting a catalog to be mailed out. An ever-dwindling number of dealers still use snail mail to send out offerings, but it's a practice that is dying out. I still appreciate it though and love receiving them. And yes, yes, and yes - I want one of those Meteorite Super Trump card decks before they are all gone. Send me a PayPal invoice. :) Now, if this was 1986, I'd press Send and this email would take about 10 minutes to send, line by line. LOL. And it wasn't called email then, it was simply a message. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment walking on that and that road.. Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny: At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone. Hence it was a zero-information. And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report where you are. Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road, Becauuse he comes, when he comes. All other information is irrelevant. Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption could be risen, if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it? Alas, Children, we survived these old times, without problems. On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today. Today we suffered horrible deformations. Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me, and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing, which would have taken easily 3 weeks. Skol Martin PS: Iiiieeek! German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in Germany buying stamps is VAT-free. Always those communists (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm typing this posting... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12 An: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Betreff: Re:
Re: [meteorite-list] Nwa 7034
Alan, Agee and Listers I have been reading what everyone has been saying and find it interesting the lexicon that has been used in the past and today in the meteoritic world. In the 1800's the use of thunder-stone, lightning stones, auralite was a house hold name for stones falling from the sky. I think it wasnt till the mid 1800's that meteorite was the word that would denote all stones that fell from the heavens, and to this day, meteorite has made it through time, unlike the other names because I think technology has allowed us to dismiss how meteorites were formed. I do agree Alan, names and terms will be used till we find no use for them. Just think in 100 years from now when we have the means to mine from Mars and or live on Mars, will meteorites be the thing of the past from that planet? But I also do feel we need names, categories to distinguish one type of meteorite from another and feel that will help categorize them as such allow allow scientist and collectors a like to differentiate meteorites and where they come from. Lastly, the naming of NWA 7034.. What about Nilelite? The Nile river and NWA 7034 ( highest amount of water). Also we could just keep it at NWA 7034 Martian (basaltic breccia) which would be in accordance with ALH 84001 Martian (OPX) An orthopyroxene-rich martian meteorite. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ From: Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu To: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu; meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nwa 7034 The bottom line in all of this is that meteorite group names will last only as long as they're useful. The literature of the past is littered with group names such as grahamites and others I've forgotten because they fell out of use. Similarly, the term SNC is not used much these days although the individual group names survive. If scientisits no longer find it useful to use the term shergottite, then it will gradually fall out of use. If folks invent new names and no one uses them, then it doesn't really matter. An interesting analogy is that there are some unpopular models for chondrule formation, for example, (say gamma-ray bursts) that no one uses and thus don't pollute the literature. Alan Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845 Slichter Hall 603 Charles Young Dr. E Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567 phone: 310-825-3202 e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nwa 7034 Hi Jeff, Of course the comparison between chondrite groups and martian types is not perfect. The different martian types are not from different parent bodies, but we still don't know where they come from on Mars, and won't for a long time, not until we know the geology of Mars better. So for a large body like a planet, and given our fragmentary knowledge of Mars, different regions are more or less equivalent to different parent bodies. Describing martians with generic lithologic names that were developed for Earth geology is useful, but for example we don't hesitate to use the term mid-ocean ridge basalts (MORB) for Earth's most abundant rock type, which will never be found on Mars. The same is true for Mars because of a different planetary evolution. We are already doing this based on rover data, the term Gusev basalt is one example. SNC's plus ALH 84001 and NWA 7034 are, each type, glimpses of diversity of Mars' unique geology. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:06:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nwa 7034 There are two reasons why we can't get rid of carbonaceous chondrite group names. First, unlike Martian meteorites, we don't know where C chondrites came from. We can't point to a single asteroid as the source for any of them, let alone all of them. So the group names are still serving their basic purpose of ordering the chaos. Second, the only language we have to describe the rocks known as chondrites is by their group names. They can't be described with standard rock nomenclature. So this is not a fair comparison. I didn't say Martian meteorite names were not useful. I said they were archaic, historical artifacts. Jeff On 1/26/2013 11:38 PM, Carl Agee wrote: Hi Jeff and
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
At this point I'd be happy to for them get rid of Saturday delivery as long as international rates stayed sane so it wouldn't affect my international sales... -Yinan On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) I am all for peace, not war but I refuse to stick my head in the sand and ignore what is happening. Sure housing and electronics are cheap but virtually none of friends around here has been able to hang onto their homes. It is like I live in a ghost town having over half the people pack up and move into cheap rentals. Perhaps if the U.S. Post office embraced technology, they could lower their rates. Instead, I am forced to wait for a clerk who cannot type and keep up with all of the poorly thought out changes. There is barley enough room to write in addresses on their new customs form and their online software will not even run on every browser! I was forced to purchase a very expensive Zebra direct-thermal printer for postage and their international software doesn't work. This is what happens when entities become too large to communicate with their own staff or really care about their customers. I am beginning to believe that robots could do a better job. At least they do not show up to work with a category 5 hangover and complain about being underpaid. Happy Shipping, Adam - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment walking on that and that road.. Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny: At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone. Hence it was a zero-information. And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report where you are. Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road, Becauuse he comes, when he comes. All other information is irrelevant. Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption could be risen, if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it? Alas, Children, we survived these old times, without problems. On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today. Today we suffered horrible deformations. Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me, and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing, which would have taken easily 3 weeks. Skol Martin PS: Iiiieeek! German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in Germany buying stamps is VAT-free. Always those communists (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the states-budget again ;-) PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm typing this posting... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12 An: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week. It still sucks though. Gripe +1. This is just another cost that dealers will have
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
True Mike! Here you have a view of my office, just before I switched from Sinclair ZX 81 to a Commodore 64. http://kuerzer.de/homeoffice1983 * Btw. do you know also this sudden and strange feeling, when you're watching else excellent thrillers from the 1970s and early eighties, when then it comes unavoidably to a scene playing in the police department? The desks! They are empty! Only a lamp, sometimes a typewriter - some paper.. and such strange wooden sticks...hm so called pencils, one or two black phones with dial plates. A metal filing cabinet in the corner. A water dispenser. Wastepaper basket. City map on the wall with pins. Coatrack. Uh how could they live and work then? And what shall the children think? I guess for them it's the same feeling, like when we had watched Buster Keaton, Fats Arbuckle, Ben Turpin movies... Gosh are w ld, Mike! And now I'll calculate your bill, Guess with what for an instrument? With a Casio fx-100. What a quality! It works still perfectly after 30 years. That's what I call true sustainability! Best! Martin *huh, nice recovery, look at the model in the centre, Ah now we know, where the architects took the ideas for the Burj Khalifa from!! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 18:35 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Hi Martin and List, Oh I do remember the good old days. When important people carried beepers and they were still dime payphones on every corner. I could fuel my gashog Camaro at 83 cents a gallon and a pack of Marlboros was $1.75. A movie ticket was $3. Minimum wage was $3.35 an hour at my first job. The internet didn't yet exist and I downloaded software from dial-up BBS's at 300 baud. It would take all night, sometimes 8-10 hours, just to download a game that took up two floppy disks. One hiccup of line noise and the whole thing had to be scrapped and re-downloaded. Rotary phone in the kitchen that had a long coiled cord that could be stretched halfway across the house and through two doorways was usually my internet connection. The handset would be unplugged and the cord plugged into the modem. How many people remember the old IRC's? International Reply Coupons. These were once standard fare when making small purchases from overseas vendors - typically used when requesting a catalog to be mailed out. An ever-dwindling number of dealers still use snail mail to send out offerings, but it's a practice that is dying out. I still appreciate it though and love receiving them. And yes, yes, and yes - I want one of those Meteorite Super Trump card decks before they are all gone. Send me a PayPal invoice. :) Now, if this was 1986, I'd press Send and this email would take about 10 minutes to send, line by line. LOL. And it wasn't called email then, it was simply a message. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment walking on that and that road.. Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny: At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone. Hence it was a zero-information. And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report where you are. Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether he's in the supermarket, on
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Hi Martin, Adam and All, I'm 75 and I remember my first paying job, after the $83.00 a month the regular Army paid me in 1955, was $1.35 an hour installing the new roof top aluminum TV antennas. Telephone switch boards, with live operators, were still in use with as many a six subscribers on one line. Some parts of Las Vegas went to a two letter prefix followed by four numbers in 1959. DUdley and EVergreen were the first. I had a cradle, rotary dial, phone till the 1960's. All long distance calls were placed through a live operator who had to talk to a live operator on the other end. There were no international calls for private citizens, everything was done by telegraph. A telegram was still the fastest and surest way to send a message, and they were delivered by hand until the late 1950's. Nearly 90% of Nevada had no telephone service except for a few local switchboards until 1960. A lot of small towns in Central Nevada were sorry to see the PONY EXPRESS shut down :0) In 1968, I had to communicate with workers in the field and couldn't afford a legal two way radio system, and the components were huge! So, I rigged a 2000 watt bi-linear amplifier to a 16 channel 5 watt Midland CB radio and 100' tall antenna. All illegal as hell, and when I transmitted, anyone listening to one of Las Vegas' three TV channels got stepped on. The Gehimestaatspolezei raided me one AM and convinced me to get an Amateur radio license and dismantle the rig. My first Motorola portable phone weighed eight pounds, had a shoulder strap, and was just to big to lug around, so up until the middle 1980's, I rented a repeater on a mountain overlooking the valley and used a UHF base station and hand helds. Now, I can bounce live feeds worldwide off the Moon, or any number of satellites...who would have thunk? On subject, stamps in 1962 were 1 cent for post cards and 3 cents for letters...five cents for Airmail. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 28, 2013 9:35 AM To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Hi Martin and List, Oh I do remember the good old days. When important people carried beepers and they were still dime payphones on every corner. I could fuel my gashog Camaro at 83 cents a gallon and a pack of Marlboros was $1.75. A movie ticket was $3. Minimum wage was $3.35 an hour at my first job. The internet didn't yet exist and I downloaded software from dial-up BBS's at 300 baud. It would take all night, sometimes 8-10 hours, just to download a game that took up two floppy disks. One hiccup of line noise and the whole thing had to be scrapped and re-downloaded. Rotary phone in the kitchen that had a long coiled cord that could be stretched halfway across the house and through two doorways was usually my internet connection. The handset would be unplugged and the cord plugged into the modem. How many people remember the old IRC's? International Reply Coupons. These were once standard fare when making small purchases from overseas vendors - typically used when requesting a catalog to be mailed out. An ever-dwindling number of dealers still use snail mail to send out offerings, but it's a practice that is dying out. I still appreciate it though and love receiving them. And yes, yes, and yes - I want one of those Meteorite Super Trump card decks before they are all gone. Send me a PayPal invoice. :) Now, if this was 1986, I'd press Send and this email would take about 10 minutes to send, line by line. LOL. And it wasn't called email then, it was simply a message. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 1/28/13, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to hectograph them (cool, my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore). Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters. ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s. If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps! Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones? These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm? And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when
[meteorite-list] [meteorite_sale] extremely cheap Martian NWA 7397
Hi everyone, my first Pre-Tucson bargain offer, this one is a killer deal! I have acquired some of the Martian Shergottite NWA 7397 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=nwa+7397sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=55749 This is a gorgeous green shergottite with large crystals. Many fragments have been found, but I got to see a lot last night and select out ONLY fusion crusted pieces, all with very fresh fusion crust. The pieces without crust are not very nice, and I took EVERY piece with crust. As a show special, and to celebrate Mars, I offering a blowout lowest price possible of $300 per gram:) pieces from .10 to ~6 grams. hurry, very little to go around unless you dont like crust. Michael Farmer email or call me 520 730 4754 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Adam, The USPS has not directly received tax payer dollars since the 1980s. Their poor finances do not necessarily reflect poor government spending. Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
They are still under federal control and are poorly managed. They treat customers like crap by making them wait in long lines, cannot produce shipping software that works under all circumstances, should fire their IT department for producing a half-baked product, should teach their clerks how to type and inform their clients when they are going to be gouged with price increases. What is the postal service doing issuing passports if they are not directly controlled by the government? Try waiting in line for 1 hour while the single clerk is issuing somebody a passport, ridiculous service! Other than that, I find the clerks to be somewhat friendly when they are not overwhelmed. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! Adam, The USPS has not directly received tax payer dollars since the 1980s. Their poor finances do not necessarily reflect poor government spending. Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Record Setting Asteroid Flyby (Asteroid 2012 DA14)
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/28jan_2012da/ Record Setting Asteroid Flyby NASA Science News Jan. 28, 2013: Talk about a close shave. On Feb. 15th an asteroid about half the size of a football field will fly past Earth only 17,200 miles above our planet's surface. There's no danger of a collision, but the space rock, designated 2012 DA14, has NASA's attention. This is a record-setting close approach, says Don Yeomans of NASA's Near Earth Object Program at JPL. Since regular sky surveys began in the 1990s, we've never seen an object this big get so close to Earth. Earth's neighborhood is littered with asteroids of all shapes and sizes, ranging from fragments smaller than beach balls to mountainous rocks many kilometers wide. Many of these objects hail from the asteroid belt, while others may be corpses of long-dead, burnt out comets. NASA's Near-Earth Object Program helps find and keep track of them, especially the ones that come close to our planet. 2012 DA14 is a fairly typical near-Earth asteroid. It measures some 50 meters wide, neither very large nor very small, and is probably made of stone, as opposed to metal or ice. Yeomans estimates that an asteroid like 2012 DA14 flies past Earth, on average, every 40 years, yet actually strikes our planet only every 1200 years or so. The impact of a 50-meter asteroid is not cataclysmic--unless you happen to be underneath it. Yeomans points out that a similar-sized object formed the mile wide Meteor Crater in Arizona when it struck about 50,000 years ago. That asteroid was made of iron, he says, which made it an especially potent impactor. Also, in 1908, something about the size of 2012 DA14 exploded in the atmosphere above Siberia, leveling hundreds of square miles of forest. Researchers are still studying the Tunguska Event for clues to the impacting object. 2012 DA14 will definitely not hit Earth, emphasizes Yeomans. The orbit of the asteroid is known well enough to rule out an impact. Even so, it will come interestingly close. NASA radars will be monitoring the space rock as it approaches Earth closer than many man-made satellites. Yeomans says the asteroid will thread the gap between low-Earth orbit, where the ISS and many Earth observation satellites are located, and the higher belt of geosynchronous satellites, which provide weather data and telecommunications. The odds of an impact with a satellite are extremely remote, he says. Almost nothing orbits where DA14 will pass the Earth. NASA's Goldstone radar in the Mojave Desert is scheduled to ping 2012 DA14 almost every day from Feb. 16th through 20th. The echoes will not only pinpoint the orbit of the asteroid, allowing researchers to better predict future encounters, but also reveal physical characteristics such as size, spin, and reflectivity. A key outcome of the observing campaign will be a 3D radar map showing the space rock from all sides. During the hours around closest approach, the asteroid will brighten until it resembles a star of 8th magnitude. Theoretically, that's an easy target for backyard telescopes. The problem, points out Yeomans, is speed. The asteroid will be racing across the sky, moving almost a full degree (or twice the width of a full Moon) every minute. That's going to be hard to track. Only the most experienced amateur astronomers are likely to succeed. Those who do might experience a tiny chill when they look at their images. That really was a close shave. For more information about 2012 DA and other asteroids of interest, visit NASA's Near-Earth Object Program web site: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov Author: Dr. Tony Phillips Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips Credit: Science@NASA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another loss
Sorry to hear that Stevenot a good 2 years for the family. Condolences. We had a similar situation a few years backvery sad...but makes you realize that you have to make the most of every day you are given in this life. Graham On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 PM, steve arnold chicagosteve1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list. This Tucson show is going to be a little darker for me. My wife's other brother died today of a heart attack. He was 57. He leaves behind 2 teenage boys and a wife. Last year I lost my brother and 2 years ago she lost her oldest brother. I guess we ran out of brothers. I look orward to seeing friends in Tucson. Have a great day all. Mine is a little dark right now. -- Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Martin, So distinguished looking! I'm sure your current PC is orders of magnitude better than a Commodore 64. I hope your office has kept pace. cheers Paul Swartz IMCA 5204 Here you have a view of my office, just before I switched from Sinclair ZX 81 to a Commodore 64. http://kuerzer.de/homeoffice1983 * __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another loss
Prayers for you and your family Steve. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:14 PM, steve arnold chicagosteve1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list. This Tucson show is going to be a little darker for me. My wife's other brother died today of a heart attack. He was 57. He leaves behind 2 teenage boys and a wife. Last year I lost my brother and 2 years ago she lost her oldest brother. I guess we ran out of brothers. I look orward to seeing friends in Tucson. Have a great day all. Mine is a little dark right now. -- Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Record Setting Asteroid Flyby (Asteroid 2012 DA14)
Thanks for the heads-up! If you're in Asia, you might be able to catch it for a short flare to Mag 7ish with decent binoculars. Consult a good piece of planetarium software for a skymap because there will be significant parallax and it'll be bookin' across our view. No realistic shot at imaging it for us amateurs in the Northern Hemisphere at Mag 24-22. --- Jodie Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:08:00 PM, you wrote: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/28jan_2012da/ Record Setting Asteroid Flyby NASA Science News Jan. 28, 2013: Talk about a close shave. On Feb. 15th an asteroid about half the size of a football field will fly past Earth only 17,200 miles above our planet's surface. There's no danger of a collision, but the space rock, designated 2012 DA14, has NASA's attention. This is a record-setting close approach, says Don Yeomans of NASA's Near Earth Object Program at JPL. Since regular sky surveys began in the 1990s, we've never seen an object this big get so close to Earth. Earth's neighborhood is littered with asteroids of all shapes and sizes, ranging from fragments smaller than beach balls to mountainous rocks many kilometers wide. Many of these objects hail from the asteroid belt, while others may be corpses of long-dead, burnt out comets. NASA's Near-Earth Object Program helps find and keep track of them, especially the ones that come close to our planet. 2012 DA14 is a fairly typical near-Earth asteroid. It measures some 50 meters wide, neither very large nor very small, and is probably made of stone, as opposed to metal or ice. Yeomans estimates that an asteroid like 2012 DA14 flies past Earth, on average, every 40 years, yet actually strikes our planet only every 1200 years or so. The impact of a 50-meter asteroid is not cataclysmic--unless you happen to be underneath it. Yeomans points out that a similar-sized object formed the mile wide Meteor Crater in Arizona when it struck about 50,000 years ago. That asteroid was made of iron, he says, which made it an especially potent impactor. Also, in 1908, something about the size of 2012 DA14 exploded in the atmosphere above Siberia, leveling hundreds of square miles of forest. Researchers are still studying the Tunguska Event for clues to the impacting object. 2012 DA14 will definitely not hit Earth, emphasizes Yeomans. The orbit of the asteroid is known well enough to rule out an impact. Even so, it will come interestingly close. NASA radars will be monitoring the space rock as it approaches Earth closer than many man-made satellites. Yeomans says the asteroid will thread the gap between low-Earth orbit, where the ISS and many Earth observation satellites are located, and the higher belt of geosynchronous satellites, which provide weather data and telecommunications. The odds of an impact with a satellite are extremely remote, he says. Almost nothing orbits where DA14 will pass the Earth. NASA's Goldstone radar in the Mojave Desert is scheduled to ping 2012 DA14 almost every day from Feb. 16th through 20th. The echoes will not only pinpoint the orbit of the asteroid, allowing researchers to better predict future encounters, but also reveal physical characteristics such as size, spin, and reflectivity. A key outcome of the observing campaign will be a 3D radar map showing the space rock from all sides. During the hours around closest approach, the asteroid will brighten until it resembles a star of 8th magnitude. Theoretically, that's an easy target for backyard telescopes. The problem, points out Yeomans, is speed. The asteroid will be racing across the sky, moving almost a full degree (or twice the width of a full Moon) every minute. That's going to be hard to track. Only the most experienced amateur astronomers are likely to succeed. Those who do might experience a tiny chill when they look at their images. That really was a close shave. For more information about 2012 DA and other asteroids of interest, visit NASA's Near-Earth Object Program web site: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov Author: Dr. Tony Phillips Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips Credit: Science@NASA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Best regards, Jodiemailto:spacero...@spaceballoon.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Curiosity Maneuver Prepares for Drilling
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-036 Curiosity Maneuver Prepares for Drilling Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 28, 2013 Mars Science Laboratory Mission Status Report PASADENA, Calif. - NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has placed its drill onto a series of four locations on a Martian rock and pressed down on it with the rover's arm, in preparation for using the drill in coming days. The rover carried out this pre-load testing on Mars yesterday (Jan. 27). The tests enable engineers to check whether the amount of force applied to the hardware matches predictions for what would result from the commanded motions. The next step is an overnight pre-load test, to gain assurance that the large temperature change from day to night at the rover's location does not add excessively to stress on the arm while it is pressing on the drill. At Curiosity's work site in Gale Crater, air temperature plunges from about 32 degrees Fahrenheit (zero degrees Celsius) in the afternoon to minus 85 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 65 degrees Celsius) overnight. Over this temperature swing, this large rover's arm, chassis and mobility system grow and shrink by about a tenth of an inch (about 2.4 millimeters), a little more than the thickness of a U.S. quarter-dollar coin. The rover team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., sent the rover commands yesterday to begin the overnight pre-load test today (Monday). We don't plan on leaving the drill in a rock overnight once we start drilling, but in case that happens, it is important to know what to expect in terms of stress on the hardware, said JPL's Daniel Limonadi, the lead systems engineer for Curiosity's surface sampling and science system. This test is done at lower pre-load values than we plan to use during drilling, to let us learn about the temperature effects without putting the hardware at risk. Remaining preparatory steps will take at least the rest of this week. Some of these steps are hardware checks. Others will evaluate characteristics of the rock material at the selected drilling site on a patch of flat, veined rock called John Klein. Limonadi said, We are proceeding with caution in the approach to Curiosity's first drilling. This is challenging. It will be the first time any robot has drilled into a rock to collect a sample on Mars. An activity called the drill-on-rock checkout will use the hammering action of Curiosity's drill briefly, without rotation of the drill bit, for assurance that the back-and-forth percussion mechanism and associated control system are properly tuned for hitting a rock. A subsequent activity called mini-drill is designed to produce a small ring of tailings -- powder resulting from drilling -- on the surface of the rock while penetrating less than eight-tenths of an inch (2 centimeters). This activity will not go deep enough to push rock powder into the drill's sample-gathering chamber. Limonadi said, The purpose is to see whether the tailings are behaving the way we expect. Do they look like dry powder? That's what we want to confirm. The rover team's activities this week are affected by the difference between Mars time and Earth time. To compensate for this, the team develops commands based on rover activities from two sols earlier. So, for example, the mini-drill activity cannot occur sooner than two sols after the drill-on-rock checkout. Each Martian sol lasts about 40 minutes longer than a 24-hour Earth day. By mid-February, the afternoon at Gale Crater, when Curiosity transmits information about results from the sol, will again be falling early enough in the California day for the rover team to plan each sol based on the previous sol's results. NASA's Mars Science Laboratory Project is using Curiosity to assess whether areas inside Gale Crater ever offered a habitable environment for microbes. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. More information about Curiosity is online at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/msl , http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/ . You can follow the mission on Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity and on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity . Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2013-036 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD?SALE) Tucson invite
Hello everyone almost time to head for Tucson again, for the fortunate ones anyway. I know not everyone will be able to attend but many of you will and I hope to see you there. I will be at the Ramada room 131 and will muster every cool and interesting meteorite I can bring. The last couple years people would come to my room and say dang I paid way more than that for my pieceOr darn your piece is way nicer than the one I bought So all I am saying is if you are looking for something don't make your final decision til you stop by and see what we have and at what price, my guess is you will be pleasantly surprised. Quality and value is what we have for sale in room 131 Ramada. Now just a few things that might interest you now.Or may have missed in the past. We have numbered Odessa specimens from the university of New Mexico collection, Numbered specimens of Norton County from the university of New Mexico collection, Some of the nicest specimens of Bondoc you will find anywhere from the ASU collection and acquired by Ninenger. We have a few slices of Sacramento Wash 002, a rare Arizona meteorite. Also some killer Seymchan very translucent pallasite slices. You can find them here or contact me and I will give you a link to exactly what you are looking for. Thanks and look forward to seeing all of you in Tucson. http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritefinder?_rdc=1 Here is the website some of the larger pieces http://www.meteoritefinder.com/meteorites-for-sale.htm Any and all input is appreciated thanks again. -- Mike Miller Kingman Az 86409 www.meteoritefinder.com EBay ID flattoprocks http://www.ebay.com/sch/flattoprocks/m.html?item=330705933783viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT_trksid=p4340.l2562 IMCA #2232 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD?SALE) Tucson invite
Thank you Mike for the kind reminder. There are boxes piled up all over my living-room, tomorrow morning the huge white Suburban is getting loaded, and I am driving out of Denver (where it is snowing right now!). I expect to be in warm sunny Tucson late afternoon on Wednesday. A couple days to set up everything, and I will be ready to see all of you by Saturday. And I have so much to show you!! in addition to my normal inventory and thin-sections, there is that old collection that I bought recently, lots of extremely rare pieces there, ever heard of Osseo, Bridgewater, Cacaria (was used as an anvil), Forsyth County, Orange River, or Okahandja. And this is just to name a few. Lots of them have been sold already, but there is still plenty to choose from. As you might have heard, Dorothy Norton finished recently the book Richard was working on when he left us so abruptly. The book is called “What’s so Mysterious about Meteorites?”, it will be available in my room during the show, and Dorothy has gracioulsy accepted to be there Saturday afternoon from about 2 to 4, February 9 to sign her book. Please do come meet her. Just Remember: Hotel Tucson City-Center (ex Innsuites), at Ste Marie's and Granada. Room 322, upstairs, just south of the swimming pool, from 10am to 6pm (or a bit later) everyday. See you all very soon. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 6:22 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD?SALE) Tucson invite Hello everyone almost time to head for Tucson again, for the fortunate ones anyway. I know not everyone will be able to attend but many of you will and I hope to see you there. I will be at the Ramada room 131 and will muster every cool and interesting meteorite I can bring. The last couple years people would come to my room and say dang I paid way more than that for my pieceOr darn your piece is way nicer than the one I bought So all I am saying is if you are looking for something don't make your final decision til you stop by and see what we have and at what price, my guess is you will be pleasantly surprised. Quality and value is what we have for sale in room 131 Ramada. Now just a few things that might interest you now.Or may have missed in the past. We have numbered Odessa specimens from the university of New Mexico collection, Numbered specimens of Norton County from the university of New Mexico collection, Some of the nicest specimens of Bondoc you will find anywhere from the ASU collection and acquired by Ninenger. We have a few slices of Sacramento Wash 002, a rare Arizona meteorite. Also some killer Seymchan very translucent pallasite slices. You can find them here or contact me and I will give you a link to exactly what you are looking for. Thanks and look forward to seeing all of you in Tucson. http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritefinder?_rdc=1 Here is the website some of the larger pieces http://www.meteoritefinder.com/meteorites-for-sale.htm Any and all input is appreciated thanks again. -- Mike Miller Kingman Az 86409 www.meteoritefinder.com EBay ID flattoprocks http://www.ebay.com/sch/flattoprocks/m.html?item=330705933783viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT_trksid=p4340.l2562 IMCA #2232 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard
Bryan on my phone which isnt an iphone I am able download maps to my phone and when I dont have service or when I am on the subway I can look on the map that is saved to my phone see where i need to go, but I doesnt let me type in location but who knows. Is there a feature like that with Iphone? Alll you have to so is download all the maps before you come to Tuscon, also you can get wi fi your pretty much in bizzness. Shawn Alan - Original Message - From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: 博方 李 bryanli...@yahoo.com.cn Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson show internet access phonecard Actuallymhmm You can just pick up a map when you rent a car. Old school. Hopefully others can be of assistance. Best / d On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: Hi there, I cannot help you with the following but I hope to meet you as I go to China often. All the best, Darryl On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:22 AM, 博方 李 wrote: To my meteorite friends who live in Tucson or familiar with the place: This is my first time to attending the show, and I had made the plan to drive by myself from the TUS international airport to the hotel I booked and drive to those show places. In that condition, I need to purchase a monthly phonecard or a pay-in-advance phonecard to provide an internet access for my Iphone, so that I can use the google map thru the phone and get my way easily. Could anyone tell me where is the nearest place to purchase the phonecard around the TUS international airport, and how much it will cost for a monthly card with 1G internet flow rate? Any replies or suggestions will be appreciated, many thanks! Bryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your fresh white Kleenex, baby. The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me. Fred Hall Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
Boo Hoo, poor everybody! Are you OK, Fred? - Original Message - From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your fresh white Kleenex, baby. The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me. Fred Hall Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!
These 40 to 120% international postal rate increases and the new Affordable Health Care Act taxes will leave less money for generous and thoughtful people to donate to more worthy causes! Fred, I recall purchasing a printing press from you that cost over $500.00 to ship a few years ago. It would probably cost $1,500.00 to ship it today. This would represent $1,000.00 to could go to pay for your kids education. Enough rant from me, the cost will be passed onto the poor collector who in turn will have less to donate to more important causes than a postal service who seems to forget what service means. Adam - Original Message - From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase! All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your fresh white Kleenex, baby. The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me. Fred Hall Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government spending money they do not have. That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China. Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like gold and silver. perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve. Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy a new fall. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ad : nice 93 gr nwa 6963 for sale
hello all i have this little beauty for sale its 93 gr nwa6963 has crust from 5 side and none on top. http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ email for more info and price aziz h imca 6220 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] COSMOS 1484 deorbit seen on radar!
Howdy all Last night an old, 2500 kg (~5500 lb!) Soviet satellite fell from orbit over the eastern US. The resulting fireball traced a path from Ohio all the way to Georgia, on a north-to-south and slightly westerly path. Eyewitnesses reported the event over a similarly large area. ...and man oh man does it ever show up on radar! The satellite broke up into dozens or hundreds of small, angular metallic fragments which reflect radar pulses extremely well. Weather radar shows the signatures of falling debris from central Ohio into Georgia. http://www.galacticanalytics.com/cosmos-1484-deorbit-28-jan-2013-0228-utc/ It would be very difficult for us to accurately model the dark flight of these fragments, as we don't know either their density or aerodynamic properties. But it is entirely likely that pieces will be found somewhere along the path of the satellite. Also, an eyewitness in Georgia reported sonic booms associated with the falling object. This indicates that a large (very large?) body or bodies may have landed in the vicinity of Atlanta. Cheers, Marc Fries, Rob Matson, Jake Schaefer and Jeff Fries Galactic Analytics LLC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 7397 correction
[Posting on behalf of Dave Gheesling, who is traveling...] A Tucson dealer recently posted an email to the list and on Facebook an offering of small specimens of NWA 7397. However, backplate.net owns the entire mass of NWA 7397—a single specimen covered with fusion crust that weighed 2130 grams prior to being cut. To date backplate.net has not sold or exchanged any material. A recent find of smaller, putatively paired stones has been made, and while a pairing seems probable, to the best of our knowledge none of that material has been formally classified and confirmed. Regardless, such material cannot be marketed as NWA 7397. See www.backplate.net for images of NWA 7397. Post-Tucson we will post a small number of extraordinary complete slices available for sale—as well as a number of stellar partial slices that will be priced competitively to the small incomplete stones that are purportedly from the same event. Look forward to seeing everyone in Tucson soon... All the best, Dave [C/O Sean Murray] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Zagami Contributed by: Paul Swartz http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
