[meteorite-list] Johnstown Diogenite or similar materials
Hello, I am looking for Johnstown Diogenite or similar materials whose orthopyroxene may contain GP zone. GP zone is a kind of exsolved precipitates that only have one or several units. It was found in lunar meteorites and plutonic rocks (such as Webster-Addie alpine ultramafic rock). GP zone will be found in rocks or meteorites with a very slow cooling history. I could not find GP zones in Tatahouine diogenite, but perhaps diogenites are good candidate contains GP zone. I want to look at the GP zone using STEM. If you have good samples, please email me the detail and price. I need fragments or thin sections. I need to make [001] cross sections of orthopyroxene for STEM observations. References Nord 1980 The Composition, Structure, and Stability of Guinier-Preston Zones in Lunar and Terrestrial Orthopyroxene. Phys. Chem. Minerals 6, 109 128. Langenhorst et al., 2006 On the nature of Guinier-Preston zones in meteoritic and lunar orthopyroxene. Lunar and Planetary Science XXXVII. Best Wishes, Hiromi Konishi Dept of Geology, Niigata University __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: LAR 06319 (shergottite) Contributed by: AMN http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?
Yes it is. A very famous meteorite that shows great slickensides is Zag actually. Have all a great day! Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Anne Black Envoyé : mardi 21 mai 2013 23:03 À : jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Does this help Jim? http://www.impactika.com/CH-126slick.jpg To me, slickensides look almost like streaks, and yes, shiny. Like my cat scratched it! ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 2:08 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Welp, I just need to see one up close. But in the mean time here is a paper on the subject that may be of interest... http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1966Metic...3...31D Jim On 5/21/2013 10:26 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Jim, there are shock veins and slickensides. They are not the same thing. They are result of shock but not melting like the full melt veins are. I have hundreds of pieces with slickensides. I am traveling so I can't show photos. Perhaps later. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net wrote: Hi Jim Baxter, And, that is what I am not seeing. I'am going to be a very hard sell on the term slickensides until I see something that scientifically supports it and why it is there. Do the threads actually appear and are they threads?? In my mind, the coming apart part would not create a slickenside (cool state) where as the coming together with great pressure and time would. Just thinking out loud, not qualified to say one way or the other! I also see where this appearance is shown lower in topography in it's area which, to me, would be odd for slickenside. Cheers! Jim Wooddell On 5/21/2013 9:18 AM, Jim Baxter wrote: Slickensides are polished surfaces caused by lateral movement along a fault plane. In hand specimens they feel rough when you rub your finger in one direction and smooth when you rub it in the other. Not sure that test would be feasible on the size specimens most of us own. In theory if the fault planes represent planes of weakness along which breaks occur then you could be seeing both things - slickensides that formed by lateral movement along the shock plane when the stone fractured. Jim Baxter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3162/6344 - Release Date: 05/21/13 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?
I've also seen them in the Ochansk meteorite. Thanks, Derek. Meteoriteshow meteorites...@free.fr wrote: Yes it is. A very famous meteorite that shows great slickensides is Zag actually. Have all a great day! Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Anne Black Envoyé : mardi 21 mai 2013 23:03 À : jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Does this help Jim? http://www.impactika.com/CH-126slick.jpg To me, slickensides look almost like streaks, and yes, shiny. Like my cat scratched it! ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 2:08 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Welp, I just need to see one up close. But in the mean time here is a paper on the subject that may be of interest... http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1966Metic...3...31D Jim On 5/21/2013 10:26 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Jim, there are shock veins and slickensides. They are not the same thing. They are result of shock but not melting like the full melt veins are. I have hundreds of pieces with slickensides. I am traveling so I can't show photos. Perhaps later. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net wrote: Hi Jim Baxter, And, that is what I am not seeing. I'am going to be a very hard sell on the term slickensides until I see something that scientifically supports it and why it is there. Do the threads actually appear and are they threads?? In my mind, the coming apart part would not create a slickenside (cool state) where as the coming together with great pressure and time would. Just thinking out loud, not qualified to say one way or the other! I also see where this appearance is shown lower in topography in it's area which, to me, would be odd for slickenside. Cheers! Jim Wooddell On 5/21/2013 9:18 AM, Jim Baxter wrote: Slickensides are polished surfaces caused by lateral movement along a fault plane. In hand specimens they feel rough when you rub your finger in one direction and smooth when you rub it in the other. Not sure that test would be feasible on the size specimens most of us own. In theory if the fault planes represent planes of weakness along which breaks occur then you could be seeing both things - slickensides that formed by lateral movement along the shock plane when the stone fractured. Jim Baxter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3162/6344 - Release Date: 05/21/13 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?
Good morning all! Can anyone explain to me how slickensides are created in bonded matrix in space in only minute areas of a large body? Thanks! Jim Wooddell __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?
Since the reference to slickensides has been a topic recently, I thought some would be interested in this nice example I just found being offered on eBay. It shows the feature very well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-FIREBALL-NEWEST-FALL-SLICKENSIDE-FRAGMENT-CHELYABINSK-METEORITE-22-5-GM-/190831604603?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6e73337b Mal IMCA#6819 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This is in direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article, Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged piece of the Moon is the most coveted of all. This still holds true today. I think most people, not only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple times more Martian meteorite material available by weight than Lunar material. Adam From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
Lunar is still king and always will be. Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG pieces while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami. Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one Martian breccia. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This is in direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article, Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged piece of the Moon is the most coveted of all. This still holds true today. I think most people, not only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple times more Martian meteorite material available by weight than Lunar material. Adam From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?
I'm not so sure this picture shows slickensides...if you look closely at the picture there are veins of melt running from the black areaI think it is just a break through one of the large melt pockets that are evident in Chelyabinsk.it does have the look of a slickenside but they are just paper thin black melt sheets scored in one direction and would not have thicker melt veins coming from them. Graham On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Malvin Bishop Jr magbi...@lowcountry.com wrote: Since the reference to slickensides has been a topic recently, I thought some would be interested in this nice example I just found being offered on eBay. It shows the feature very well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-FIREBALL-NEWEST-FALL-SLICKENSIDE-FRAGMENT-CHELYABINSK-METEORITE-22-5-GM-/190831604603?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6e73337b Mal IMCA#6819 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less - in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite? Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian has increased. Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM Lunar is still king and always will be. Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG pieces while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami. Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one Martian breccia. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This is in direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article, Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged piece of the Moon is the most coveted of all. This still holds true today. I think most people, not only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple times more Martian meteorite material available by weight than Lunar material. Adam From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
It is very simple. There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian which has always been the case. Collectors would be happy with a single gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next. Lunar breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection instead of a single token piece. The least expensive Lunaites of all time came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it lost most of its value. The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar meteorites so most have tripled in price. NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites. During this depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its value while Martian offerings are still off peak. A Martian fall for $300.00/gram is a bargain. On the other hand, a Lunar fall could run into the tens of thousands per gram if we were ever lucky enough to witness one. I have dealt more Martian and Lunar material than most dealers and see that they both make good investments if purchased properly. The entire collectables market sector has been down the last six years and meteorites have retained most of their long-term value unless emotional buying was in play. Ask any Moroccan what excites them more, a new Martian or a Lunar find? They know they can get way more any lunar meteorite than Martian so the answer will always be the same. Lunar is king. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less - in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite? Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian has increased. Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM Lunar is still king and always will be. Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG pieces while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami. Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one Martian breccia. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This is in direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article, Mining for Meteorites, 1999 which claims a dislodged piece of the Moon is the most coveted of all. This still holds true today. I think most people, not only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple times more Martian meteorite material available by weight than Lunar material. Adam From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list
[meteorite-list] AD:imilchil iron for sale
Hi list We have imilchil iron for sale at a competitive price We are wholesellers,so order of less than 500gr is not accepted. Photos and pricing on request. Best regards Said __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
Hi boyz, maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful? I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers. It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011. You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in, to use the Price guide) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6912.0 The lines read as follows: Meteorite Name - Type today - average price/g (lowest-highest) - number of offerers. *=fall (then) Let me search the Martians DaG 476 SHER 1733$/g ( 457 - 3712 )13 DaG 489 SHER 1014$/g (550 - 1600) 7 DaG 670 SHER715$/g (512 -1024) 2 DaG 735 SHER 704$/g (704 ) 1 Dho 019 SHER 1536$/g ( 512 - 2560) 1 Los Angeles 001 SHER5184$/g(3200 - 7168) 2 Shergotty* SHER 6400$/g( 6400)1 Zagami* SHER 1823.44$/g ( 576 -10666) 12 Nakhla*Nakhlit 3653$/g(1960 - 5760) 4 Lafayette Nakhlit 44965$/g (29482-64000) 2 Governador Valadares Nakhlit 46163$/g (25078-8) 3 Chassigny* Chassignite 87751$/g (51200-126720) 3 And the Lunars: Calcalong Creek LUN-M 273485$/g (98970-448000) 1 (damals LUN-A) DaG 262 LUN-A49400$/g(38234-64000)3 DaG 400 LUN-A24415$/g (12800-32000) 8 And that was it. Main reason for the difference there between Martians and Moonies, I assume, is a relatively simple and unromantic one. Zagami had a pretty large tkw. And it took until into the second half of the 1980s until it was fully established, that the shergottites most probably stem from planet Mars. Before, and I still remember it from the annual Munich shows, you could read on the Zagami-labels as type: anomalous Eucrite. And as eucrite one simply couldn't ask such exorbitant prices. On the other hand, when the suspicion of the Martian origin became stalwart, it simply would have been not possible to multiple the former price within 1-3 years with a factor of 500x . Enjoy using the old Price Guide, is always nice to see for me, that the old laborious work from then, is still sometimes good for something today. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 20:55 An: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction It is very simple. There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian which has always been the case. Collectors would be happy with a single gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next. Lunar breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection instead of a single token piece. The least expensive Lunaites of all time came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it lost most of its value. The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar meteorites so most have tripled in price. NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites. During this depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its value while Martian offerings are still off peak. A Martian fall for $300.00/gram is a bargain. On the other hand, a Lunar fall could run into the tens of thousands per gram if we were ever lucky enough to witness one. I have dealt more Martian and Lunar material than most dealers and see that they both make good investments if purchased properly. The entire collectables market sector has been down the last six years and meteorites have retained most of their long-term value unless emotional buying was in play. Ask any Moroccan what excites them more, a new Martian or a Lunar find? They know they can get way more any lunar meteorite than Martian so the answer will always be the same. Lunar is king. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less - in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite? Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian has increased. Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king? Greg Catterton
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
Oops, forgot a shergottite: Sayh al Uhaymir 005 SHER 930.56$/g (930.56 )1 Best, Ma -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 00:39 An: 'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com' Betreff: AW: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction Hi boyz, maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful? I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers. It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011. You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in, to use the Price guide) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6912.0 The lines read as follows: Meteorite Name - Type today - average price/g (lowest-highest) - number of offerers. *=fall (then) Let me search the Martians DaG 476 SHER 1733$/g ( 457 - 3712 )13 DaG 489 SHER 1014$/g (550 - 1600) 7 DaG 670 SHER715$/g (512 -1024) 2 DaG 735 SHER 704$/g (704 ) 1 Dho 019 SHER 1536$/g ( 512 - 2560) 1 Los Angeles 001 SHER5184$/g(3200 - 7168) 2 Shergotty* SHER 6400$/g( 6400)1 Zagami* SHER 1823.44$/g ( 576 -10666) 12 Nakhla*Nakhlit 3653$/g(1960 - 5760) 4 Lafayette Nakhlit 44965$/g (29482-64000) 2 Governador Valadares Nakhlit 46163$/g (25078-8) 3 Chassigny* Chassignite 87751$/g (51200-126720) 3 And the Lunars: Calcalong Creek LUN-M 273485$/g (98970-448000) 1 (damals LUN-A) DaG 262 LUN-A49400$/g(38234-64000)3 DaG 400 LUN-A24415$/g (12800-32000) 8 And that was it. Main reason for the difference there between Martians and Moonies, I assume, is a relatively simple and unromantic one. Zagami had a pretty large tkw. And it took until into the second half of the 1980s until it was fully established, that the shergottites most probably stem from planet Mars. Before, and I still remember it from the annual Munich shows, you could read on the Zagami-labels as type: anomalous Eucrite. And as eucrite one simply couldn't ask such exorbitant prices. On the other hand, when the suspicion of the Martian origin became stalwart, it simply would have been not possible to multiple the former price within 1-3 years with a factor of 500x . Enjoy using the old Price Guide, is always nice to see for me, that the old laborious work from then, is still sometimes good for something today. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 20:55 An: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction It is very simple. There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian which has always been the case. Collectors would be happy with a single gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next. Lunar breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection instead of a single token piece. The least expensive Lunaites of all time came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it lost most of its value. The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar meteorites so most have tripled in price. NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites. During this depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its value while Martian offerings are still off peak. A Martian fall for $300.00/gram is a bargain. On the other hand, a Lunar fall could run into the tens of thousands per gram if we were ever lucky enough to witness one. I have dealt more Martian and Lunar material than most dealers and see that they both make good investments if purchased properly. The entire collectables market sector has been down the last six years and meteorites have retained most of their long-term value unless emotional buying was in play. Ask any Moroccan what excites them more, a new Martian or a Lunar find? They know they can get way more any lunar meteorite than Martian so the answer will always be the same. Lunar is king. Adam - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it
[meteorite-list] Watching For Hazards: ESA Opens Asteroid Centre
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Operations/Space_Situational_Awareness/Watching_for_hazards_ESA_opens_asteroid_centre Watching for hazards: ESA opens asteroid centre European Space Agency 22 May 2013 ESA today inaugurated a new hub that will strengthen Europe's contribution to the global hunt for asteroids and other hazardous natural objects that may strike Earth. Near-Earth Objects, or NEOs, are asteroids or comets with sizes ranging from metres to tens of kilometres that orbit the Sun and whose orbits come close to that of Earth. There are over 600 000 asteroids known in our Solar System, and almost 10 000 of them are NEOs. Dramatic proof that some of these could strike Earth came on 15 February, when an unknown object thought to be 17-20 m in diameter exploded high above Chelyabinsk, Russia, with 20-30 times the energy of the Hiroshima atomic bomb. The resulting shock wave caused widespread damage and injuries, making it the largest known natural object to have entered the atmosphere since the 1908 Tunguska event. The NEO Coordination Centre will serve as the central access point to a network of European NEO data sources and information providers being established under ESA's Space Situational Awareness (SSA) Programme. This is the second centre to be opened under SSA leadership after the Space Weather Coordination Centre that opened in Brussels last month. Located at ESRIN, ESA's centre for Earth observation, the centre was formally inaugurated today by Thomas Reiter, ESA Director of Human Spaceflight and Operations, together with Augusto Cramarossa, Italian Delegate to the ESA Council, and Claudio Portelli, Italian Delegate to the SSA Programme, both of ASI, the Italian space agency. The event was hosted by Volker Liebig, ESA Director of Earth Observation Programmes and Head of the ESRIN Establishment. Europe's first operational NEO centre The new centre will support experts in the field by federating new and existing European assets, systems and sensors into a future NEO system. It will support the integration and initial operation of ESA's NEO information distribution network. The Centre is also the focus point for scientific studies needed to improve NEO warning services and provide near-realtime data to European and international customers, including scientific bodies, international organisations and decision-makers. Multiple centres of European NEO expertise Of the 14 ESA Member States participating in SSA, nine are supporting NEO activities, including Belgium, the Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Luxembourg, Poland, Romania and Switzerland in addition to Italy. I am pleased to see strong support for the NEO segment of ESA's SSA Programme by Italian industry and academia, said Claudio Portelli, Italy's representative to the programme from ASI. Enhancing Europe's contribution to international NEO discovery efforts is only possible through the coordinated efforts of multiple centres of European expertise. Networking today's NEO infrastructure The NEO-CC itself is a dedicated control room where operators monitor and continuously update observations from professional and amateur teams across Europe. It provides an interface to the Minor Planet Center, the global clearing house for NEO observations operated by the International Astronomical Union at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in the US. The Centre is networked with the EARN Near-Earth Asteroids database developed by the DLR German Aerospace Center in Berlin and the NEODyS Near-Earth Objects Dynamic Site database operated by Space Dynamics Services S.r.l. at the University of Pisa. This last activity is supported by ESA and the Institute for Space Astrophysics and Planetology (IAPS), an institute of the Italian National Institute for Astrophysics (INAF). The Centre also incorporates the IAPS/INAF 'Spaceguard Central Node Priority List', a listing of discovered objects whose orbits merit further confirmation. Industrial cooperation The Centre was established and built by an industrial team led by Telespazio S.p.A. Ten European industrial partners and organisations from Italy, Spain and Germany are participating in the Centre's development and operation. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Chelyabinsk Slices - IMB and pure Impact Melt
Dear List Members, i have some new slices of Chelyabinsk on ebay. Many different slices. Some slices are pure impact melt and also impact melt breccia or the ordinary LL5 material. Here are the Link to my ebay store with the new listed pieces: http://stores.ebay.com/Mirko-Graul-Meteorite/_i.html?rt=nc_sid=18192829_sticky=1_trksid=p4634.c0.m14_sop=10_sc=1 Best regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Robert, The meteorite goes by the name Xining and can be found on eBay. Just one of the many that China appears to not (want to) publish. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Somebody please poke the Chinese with a pointed stick and get them back on task. This fall and the Zunhua fall need to be published and made official. Best regards, MikeG PS - poke GSI with a stick also and get them busy on Katol. On 5/22/13, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert, The meteorite goes by the name Xining and can be found on eBay. Just one of the many that China appears to not (want to) publish. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
Hello Everyone, I would agree Martin, about the Moon being more romantic compared to the Red planet, were people think of green little men LOL. But when it comes to Lunar samples, all I need is one, just the best looking sample that represents what a lunar meteorite would look like. I would say Dag 400, Dag 262 , NWA 500 and a couple other Lunar samples are key meteorite that have an ideal representation of what a Lunar meteorite look s like. But, there are other samples that are just as good, but at what cost!! But what I can say is, you better watch out when we find the first Lunar meteorite in USA or the first Lunar meteorite fall. That meteorite will be untouchable price, depending on how much is found or recovered. I am just hoping it will happen while I am still young or before I die lol. But again I probably couldn't afford it and would have to wait till I was about to die to buy some. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/imca1633ny?_rdc=1 http://meteoritefalls.com/ From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction Hi boyz, maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful? I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers. It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011. You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in, to use the Price guide) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6912.0 The lines read as follows: Meteorite Name - Type today - average price/g (lowest-highest) - number of offerers. *=fall (then) Let me search the Martians DaG 476 SHER 1733$/g ( 457 - 3712 ) 13 DaG 489 SHER 1014$/g (550 - 1600) 7 DaG 670 SHER 715$/g (512 -1024) 2 DaG 735 SHER 704$/g ( 704 ) 1 Dho 019 SHER 1536$/g ( 512 - 2560) 1 Los Angeles 001 SHER 5184$/g (3200 - 7168) 2 Shergotty* SHER 6400$/g ( 6400 ) 1 Zagami* SHER 1823.44$/g ( 576 -10666) 12 Nakhla* Nakhlit 3653$/g (1960 - 5760) 4 Lafayette Nakhlit 44965$/g (29482-64000) 2 Governador Valadares Nakhlit 46163$/g (25078-8) 3 Chassigny* Chassignite 87751$/g (51200-126720) 3 And the Lunars: Calcalong Creek LUN-M 273485$/g (98970-448000) 1 (damals LUN-A) DaG 262 LUN-A 49400$/g (38234-64000) 3 DaG 400 LUN-A 24415$/g (12800-32000) 8 And that was it. Main reason for the difference there between Martians and Moonies, I assume, is a relatively simple and unromantic one. Zagami had a pretty large tkw. And it took until into the second half of the 1980s until it was fully established, that the shergottites most probably stem from planet Mars. Before, and I still remember it from the annual Munich shows, you could read on the Zagami-labels as type: anomalous Eucrite. And as eucrite one simply couldn't ask such exorbitant prices. On the other hand, when the suspicion of the Martian origin became stalwart, it simply would have been not possible to multiple the former price within 1-3 years with a factor of 500x . Enjoy using the old Price Guide, is always nice to see for me, that the old laborious work from then, is still sometimes good for something today. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 20:55 An: Adam Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction It is very simple. There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian which has always been the case. Collectors would be happy with a single gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next. Lunar breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection instead of a single token piece. The least expensive Lunaites of all time came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it lost most of its value. The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar meteorites so most have tripled in price. NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites. During this depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its value while Martian offerings are still off peak. A Martian fall for $300.00/gram is a bargain. On the other hand, a Lunar fall could
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Not to mention this obvious fact a lot of people are overlooking about Katol Katol is not a meteorite yet. It has not been published or recognized by MetSoc. Even if there is a law against exporting meteorites from India (which I doubt), it would not apply to Katol, yet. Until it's approved, it's a rock. On 5/22/13, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
And by the way it was the 1st anniversary of the fall yesterday. Sami Makki On 23-May-2013, at 8:09, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Historic Price Trend of Mars v Moon Mets revealed (ad)
Buenos noches a todos: Honored list-member Martin has offered for our review a dealer price list he put together back in 2000 to help list members compare the subsequent price DEPRECIATION of Mars v Lunar specimens. The price drop is dramatic. But not unexpected to some. List contributor Darryl Pitt predicted to me in the first years of this century that the price of Lunar meteorites could fall to around $500 per gram. At the time it took a check written for US$oogoogle/gm to purchase the first DaG from the Zeitschels, a bargain compared to Bob's Calcalong Creek, yours for a check of $ with many zeros and commas after the '1'. Now Darryl's price seems prescient. And why not? The moon just again got blasted by an impactor (http://www.space.com/21248-moon-meteor-impact-lunar-risks.html) which might even have sent some more NWA our way, and of course the Moon is much closer to us than Mars. And the Moon has a lesser escape velocity than Mars. Do the math. Or check out the data. OK, actually, we collectors haven't yet decided a winner in this popularity contest, because keyword here is 'depends'. There are no historic Lunar falls. Mars 'wins' that category. I'll even suggest that some collectors find the 'Moon in June' more 'romantic' than 'Mars at War'. And vice versa, but I'm (Marsrox) biased. Having prepared and offered for sale a meteorite price list since 2005, I congratulate Martin for his work, it is a list difficult to compile and logically format. I apologize to Martin for some skepticism though about the validity of his list, since I wonder how rigorous his methodology was. I see many instances of price 'ranges' where his list shows only one dealer offering a specimen. 'Ranges' suggests at least two samples :) And one must also subjectively decide when an offer price is so high or so low or the specimen so small as to be discarded as statistically irrelevant. While not proclaiming myself to be the Gottfried Achenwall of statistical discipline, if anyone not yet owning a copy of my The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013 would like to verify Mars and Lunar meteorite price trends back to 2005, a methodology I've honed since 1995 to calculate the value of my own holdings, please deposit $10 in Paypal at mars...@gmail.com and I'll send a copy of my color-illustrated 13 -page report as an Adobe pdf email attachment before the Earth rotates once again. For this edition I am reporting on the prices of 241 meteorites, nearly triple the number first surveyed in 2005. If it's for sale by at least two dealers, I have looked at it for inclusion. The most historic and/or rare meteorites show price quotes even if only one dealer has it on offer if I feel his specimen and its price are legitimate. If you’re wondering what exceptional insights I might have about collecting meteorites, well, I wrote the book on it. I am the author of “The Art of Collecting Meteorites” (Bookmasters, 232 pages - for your copy please visit www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com. The book is also available as an eBook at a vastly reduced price on Amazon (Kindle) and Barnes and Noble (Nook). I wanted to promote the best of hobbies, review the history of meteorites using a bright light, offer curating tips, and explain current business trends to help you save money. With contributions by O. R. Norton, David New, Robert Haag, Bernd Pauli, Dean Bessey, Jim Hartman, Norbert Classen and Dr. Jeff Grossman, help and inspiration from Darryl Pitt and Joel Schiff, editing, art and lay-up by Geoff Notkin, “The Art of Collecting Meteorites” has become, “…a must for every meteorite collector’s bookshelf.” - Astronomy magazine. From Nine Degrees North... Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica mars...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
yes, in honor of that I will have something very special to offer in a couple of days:). Katol is a great meteorite, and a very fun trip. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Me Teor m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com wrote: And by the way it was the 1st anniversary of the fall yesterday. Sami Makki On 23-May-2013, at 8:09, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
