Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

2013-12-23 Thread Michel FRANCO
Hi list

  This year, the only PR-6 meteorite website is 
 the Meteoritical Society.  Meteorite Market and MeteorCrater.com were 
 both demoted to PR-5.

This tends to prove that Science is taking over Business in meteorite, at
last, hopefully!
Best regards

Michel Franco
IMCA 3869
Met Soc Member.


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I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point.  PageRank is not really a
priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. 
Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th.

it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration
+ it's possible that sites are right on a borderline.

PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in
their search results.  I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for sale
(the results can be seen in the image link below).  The second column from
the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate
with the search rankings.  This is the way PR has been behaving for years.

http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg

Happy Webmastering!

Paul




On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:
 Greetings Meteorite Dealers,

 Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for 
 Meteorite Dealer Websites.  If you missed it, I will briefly summarize 
 what it was.  I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I 
 could find - 89 of them.  I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of 
 those websites.  Finally, I gave some details about what Google 
 Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers.  I also 
 gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR.

 In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some 
 changes and Google has changed it's PR formula.  Both of these things 
 are normal and inevitable.  Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to 
 combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results.
 In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, 
 and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this 
 keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes.

 Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have 
 taken a hit from Google.  Apparently, Google does not think much of 
 meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a 
 reduction in PR.  Why?  I have no idea, other than the fact that it 
 obviously has something to do with the change in formula.

 I charged money for the last report.  I am not going to charge for 
 this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first.
 Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to 
 clearly benefit the buyer.  While the advice in my first report was 
 valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, 
 so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is 
 still good to consider.)

 So, let us cut to the chase.  Listed first is the Google PR for all of 
 the websites in the original 2010 report.  Following that is a list of 
 the current PR for those same websites as of 2013.  Lastly, I will add 
 some comments.

 First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized)

 meteoritemarket.com - 6
 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6
 meteorcrater.com - 6
 aerolite.org - 5
 meteorites.asu.edu - 5
 meteorite.com - 5
 meteorite-times.com - 5
 meteoritecentral.com - 5
 meteorlab.com - 5
 meteoritemen.com - 5
 nyrockman.com - 5
 imca.cc - 5
 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4
 bimsociety.org - 4
 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4
 galactic-stone.com - 4
 impactika.com - 4
 kansasmeteorite.com - 4
 meteoritesplus.com - 4
 meteoriteman.com - 4
 meteorites.com.au - 4
 meteorites.com - 4
 meteorites.tv - 4
 meteoritehunter.com - 4
 meteorite.fr - 4
 meteoriteguy.com - 4
 meteoritestudies.com - 4
 meteorman.org - 4
 meteoritelab.com - 4
 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4
 mhmeteorites.com - 4
 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4
 minresco.com - 4
 mr-meteorite.net - 4
 planetbrey.com - 4
 spacerocksuk.com - 4
 schoolersinc.com - 4
 sv-meteorites.com - 4
 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3
 carionmineraux.com - 3
 catchafallingstar.com - 3
 chladnis-heirs.com - 3
 fallingrocks.com - 3
 fernlea.tripod.com - 3
 haberer-meteorite.de - 3
 illinoismeteorites.com - 3
 jensenmeteorites.com - 3
 lunarrock.com - 3
 macovich.com - 3
 marmet-meteorites.com - 3
 meteoritecollector.org - 3
 meteoris.de - 3
 meteorite-lab.de - 3
 meteorite-shop.com - 3
 meteoritesusa.com - 3
 meteorite-mirko.de - 3
 meteorite-identification.com - 3
 meteoritelabels.com - 3
 meteoritefinder.com - 3
 meteoritica.com - 3
 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3
 nevadameteorites.com - 3
 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

2013-12-23 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Paul is absolutely right. 

And one other thing that some may not be aware of is that you will be ranked
differently depending on which country you are searching from and which
Google you are using. I get very different results with different
combinations of these.

Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Harris
Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 6:11 PM
To: meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point.  PageRank is not 
really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. 
Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th.

it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to 
recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline.

PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings 
in their search results.  I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for 
sale (the results can be seen in the image link below).  The second 
column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do 
NOT correlate with the search rankings.  This is the way PR has been 
behaving for years.

http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg

Happy Webmastering!

Paul




On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:
 Greetings Meteorite Dealers,

 Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for
 Meteorite Dealer Websites.  If you missed it, I will briefly summarize
 what it was.  I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I
 could find - 89 of them.  I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of
 those websites.  Finally, I gave some details about what Google
 Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers.  I also
 gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR.

 In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some
 changes and Google has changed it's PR formula.  Both of these things
 are normal and inevitable.  Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to
 combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results.
 In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak,
 and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this
 keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes.

 Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have
 taken a hit from Google.  Apparently, Google does not think much of
 meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a
 reduction in PR.  Why?  I have no idea, other than the fact that it
 obviously has something to do with the change in formula.

 I charged money for the last report.  I am not going to charge for
 this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first.
 Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to
 clearly benefit the buyer.  While the advice in my first report was
 valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason,
 so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is
 still good to consider.)

 So, let us cut to the chase.  Listed first is the Google PR for all of
 the websites in the original 2010 report.  Following that is a list of
 the current PR for those same websites as of 2013.  Lastly, I will add
 some comments.

 First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized)

 meteoritemarket.com - 6
 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6
 meteorcrater.com - 6
 aerolite.org - 5
 meteorites.asu.edu - 5
 meteorite.com - 5
 meteorite-times.com - 5
 meteoritecentral.com - 5
 meteorlab.com - 5
 meteoritemen.com - 5
 nyrockman.com - 5
 imca.cc - 5
 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4
 bimsociety.org - 4
 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4
 galactic-stone.com - 4
 impactika.com - 4
 kansasmeteorite.com - 4
 meteoritesplus.com - 4
 meteoriteman.com - 4
 meteorites.com.au - 4
 meteorites.com - 4
 meteorites.tv - 4
 meteoritehunter.com - 4
 meteorite.fr - 4
 meteoriteguy.com - 4
 meteoritestudies.com - 4
 meteorman.org - 4
 meteoritelab.com - 4
 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4
 mhmeteorites.com - 4
 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4
 minresco.com - 4
 mr-meteorite.net - 4
 planetbrey.com - 4
 spacerocksuk.com - 4
 schoolersinc.com - 4
 sv-meteorites.com - 4
 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3
 carionmineraux.com - 3
 catchafallingstar.com - 3
 chladnis-heirs.com - 3
 fallingrocks.com - 3
 fernlea.tripod.com - 3
 haberer-meteorite.de - 3
 illinoismeteorites.com - 3
 jensenmeteorites.com - 3
 lunarrock.com - 3
 macovich.com - 3
 marmet-meteorites.com - 3
 meteoritecollector.org - 3
 meteoris.de - 3
 meteorite-lab.de - 3
 meteorite-shop.com - 3
 meteoritesusa.com - 3
 meteorite-mirko.de - 3
 meteorite-identification.com - 3
 meteoritelabels.com - 3
 meteoritefinder.com - 3
 meteoritica.com - 3
 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3
 nevadameteorites.com - 3
 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3

Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

2013-12-23 Thread Jim Wooddell

Hi all!

I no longer have any commercial interest in websites, so this Google PR 
ranking means absolutely nothing to mebasically could careless.
It would be silly of me, by nature, to think I needed any of this for 
any purchase anywhere on the internet.  I don't need it and never needed 
it for my
businesses.   Google Analytics data is good to see how your business 
efforts attract interest in a web site but it is so easy to cheat (and 
you are only cheating yourself)
it's often worthless information and is not necessarily tied to your 
bottom line.


So the only people this helps, with small hobby businesses in mind, are 
very few.  And, I doubt that these rankings, that the vast majority of
people could careless about, did much of anything to seriously improve a 
bottom line in such a business.   I suppose if you are a numbers geek, 
you could some
how tie your bottom link to various PR rankings, but I serious doubt the 
majority of you have done this.I'd guess it is very much a waste of 
your time.


In regards to a business, I think Ruben had a great idea with one of the 
largest followings, if not the largest

followings of all time.  Am I wrong?
The point being that he was out there sharing his adventures and was 
actually active in the community, helping people, sharing
his knowledge, etc.  I've never been anywhere with him that I did not 
see him help someone in regards to meteorites.  I will however

agree cameras are like magnets to him!  LOL!
I am not much of a buyer but he did what it took to be in my absolute 
top rating, regardless of what someone else thinks is a good PR rating.


If you want true PR and you want to grow your business, then do what it 
takes and forget about these silly big boy numbers games. Get out there 
and be part of a
larger community, because most of you are not known any better than the 
up and coming Moroccan dealers that sooner or later will get their PR 
act together

and kick your butt!Living in a 'click' will not grow your business.

Just my 2 cents.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

Jim Wooddell


On 12/23/2013 3:54 AM, Jeff Kuyken wrote:

Paul is absolutely right.

And one other thing that some may not be aware of is that you will be ranked
differently depending on which country you are searching from and which
Google you are using. I get very different results with different
combinations of these.

Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Harris
Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 6:11 PM
To: meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point.  PageRank is not
really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year.
Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th.

it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to
recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline.

PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings
in their search results.  I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for
sale (the results can be seen in the image link below).  The second
column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do
NOT correlate with the search rankings.  This is the way PR has been
behaving for years.

http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg

Happy Webmastering!

Paul




On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:

Greetings Meteorite Dealers,

Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for
Meteorite Dealer Websites.  If you missed it, I will briefly summarize
what it was.  I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I
could find - 89 of them.  I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of
those websites.  Finally, I gave some details about what Google
Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers.  I also
gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR.

In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some
changes and Google has changed it's PR formula.  Both of these things
are normal and inevitable.  Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to
combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results.
In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak,
and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this
keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes.

Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have
taken a hit from Google.  Apparently, Google does not think much of
meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a
reduction in PR.  Why?  I have no idea, other than the fact that it
obviously has something to do with the change in formula.

I charged money for the last report.  I am not going to charge for
this one because this is not a 

[meteorite-list] Test

2013-12-23 Thread John Lutzon
Please ignore.
J.
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[meteorite-list] 2014 Preview: First Touchdown on a Speeding Comet (Rosetta)

2013-12-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029484.800-2014-preview-first-touchdown-on-a-speeding-comet.html

2014 preview: First touchdown on a speeding comet
by Stuart Clark
New Scientist
23 December 2013 

In 2013, comet ISON flew into our skies. In 2014, we will return the favour 
when the European Space Agency's Rosetta craft begins orbiting comet 
Churyumov-Gerasimenko 
and touches down on its surface. That would mean two firsts for comet 
exploration - plus the most ambitious deep-space landing ever attempted.

Rosetta is a veteran traveller. Launched in March 2004, it has spent a 
decade looping around the sun, gaining momentum - and passing two asteroids. 
Its target travels at about 16 kilometres per second, and Rosetta is now 
catching the comet by 800 metres each second.

The craft has been a virtual zombie since June 2011 to preserve its resources, 
with only a flicker of power to keep its computer brain alive. The alarm 
clock is set for 20 January 2014, when Rosetta will wake up to prepare 
for a May rendezvous with Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

Though NASA's StarDust mission flew through the tail of comet Wild2 in 
2004, no craft has ever orbited one. Rosetta will orbit its target at 
a leisurely walking pace, searching for a landing spot. Things will get 
even more exciting in November, when the robotic lander Philae (illustrated) 
detaches from the mother ship and becomes the first spacecraft to land 
on a comet.

Philae will anchor itself with a harpoon before starting to dig. An on-board 
lab will analyse the scoops of rock and beam the results to Earth. Like 
asteroids, comets are thought to preserve material from the birth of the 
solar system, 4.6 billion years ago. Comets contain water, so the chemistry 
of the scoops could reveal whether our oceans, and a bunch of molecules 
necessary for life, came from comets smashing into early Earth.

Rosetta's final task will be to monitor the continual disintegration of 
Churyumov-Gerasimenko as it makes its closest approach to the sun on 13 
August 2015.
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[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas Seasons Greetings!

2013-12-23 Thread Greg Hupé

I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Seasons Greetings!
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Best Regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas Seasons Greetings!

2013-12-23 Thread John Lutzon
Back at ya Greg--and everyone.

John

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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:18 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas  Seasons Greetings!


I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Seasons Greetings!
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Best Regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Test

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Fujihara
Sorry John,

I cant ignore the fact that a member of our beloved community who was 
indisposed for an extended period of time has returned. Welcome back John, you 
have been missed and its nice to have you back. 

gary 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Test

2013-12-23 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Ditto what Gary said.  It's good to see you recovered.  :)

Best regards and Happy Holidays,

MikeG



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 I cant ignore the fact that a member of our beloved community who was
 indisposed for an extended period of time has returned. Welcome back John,
 you have been missed and its nice to have you back.

 gary

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Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas Seasons Greetings!

2013-12-23 Thread John Cabassi
G'Day Greg and List

Hoping family and friends have a great end to 2013.  I also hope
bringing in the New Year will also be exciting and safe.

And Art, thanks for the Met List

Cheers
John Cabassi
IMCA# 2125

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Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas Seasons Greetings!

2013-12-23 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
More importantly, today is December 23rd - FESTIVUS!

First, notice my aluminum pole.  It has a high strength to weight ratio.

Notice the lack of tinsel.  I find tinsel distracting.

Now, before the Feats of Strength, we will begin the Airing of
Grievances where I will list all of the ways you people have
disappointed me over the last year.

Happy Festivus for the Rest of Us.

MikeG

PS - as I rained blows down upon him, I said THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY!

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 G'Day Greg and List

 Hoping family and friends have a great end to 2013.  I also hope
 bringing in the New Year will also be exciting and safe.

 And Art, thanks for the Met List

 Cheers
 John Cabassi
 IMCA# 2125

 On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:
 I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Seasons Greetings!
 http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/BolideSantaChristmas.jpg

 Best Regards,
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 www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
 NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest  eBay)
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Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

2013-12-23 Thread almitt2

Greetings,

I wanted to address this post and agree with others and their comments 
that they are not concern about this data.


My website went from a 2 to a 0 because I have been preoccupied with 
taking care of a relative and removed the website for the time being, 
over a year (so as not to waste people's time when I was not on). It 
has nothing to do with padding the numbers in my case (I have a 
webmaster that takes care of things and doesn't do that sort of thing)


It also has nothing to do with any wrong doing, virus problems, illegal 
content. While I am not concerned about ranking, when people post these 
type of items here then have to defend my business and good name. I've 
spent too much time doing things right to allow anyone to think this 
numbers game is anything but that and efforts by others to look like 
the knights in shiny armor, why else would they post?


I've got good customers who know me and tend to buy from me with out 
all the website glare. It's why I have been in the business for 25 
years now.


If you have any concerns please email me off list.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years in the Meteorite business


Quoting Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com:

mitterling.com - 2 (0)

The reasons for a PR-0 are many, but it's usually a punishment handed
down by Google for sites that are caught cheating the PR system, or
for sites that are deemed to contain dangerous or illegal content.
Dangerous content can include viruses, malware, or links to sites
known for viruses or malware.  Another reason for PR-0 is a website
being brand new and unknown on the web.  Since none of these websites
are new, we can only assume their PR was penalized for some reason.

The PR-0 club is not a good place to be.  It knocks your website down
in the search results and hurts your overall traffic.  But, it's not a
permanent dungeon and sites can pull themselves out of the PR-0 hole.

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Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report

2013-12-23 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Al and List,

I want to clarify a few things here.

Al, nobody, including me, would ever accuse you of wrong-doing.  I
said that a drop to PR-0 is usually the result of a penalty by
Google.  I explained this at more length in my original report and
perhaps should have been more clear in this last post.  It is a fact
that when a website drops to PR-0, there is a reason for it.  Google
may be arbitrary at times, but they do not randomly penalize websites.
 In your case Al, your drop to PR-0 is explained by your hiatus from
the web.  Taking a website down completely for an extended period of
time can result in a dramatic PR drop.  In your case, this must be
what happened.  I did not single anybody out and only made a
generalized comment about the most common reasons for a PR penalty.

 efforts by others to look like the knights in shiny armor, why else
would they post?

I guess this a reference to me.  My motivation in publishing these
numbers and my reports is to help webmasters increase their traffic
and their income.  I have been heavily involved with webmastering
since the very first days of the internet and I have seen years of
trends involving traffic and conversions.  In fact, SEO (search engine
optimization) is closely related to Page Rank and many businesses pay
hefty sums of money to full-time professionals whose sole job is to do
exactly what I just did - analyzing web traffic trends and increasing
traffic and conversions.  Go to LinkedIn and search for SEO services -
it's a real profession in high demand.

Do not shoot the messenger.  Everyone on this List knows you (Al) are
an honest man and straight shooter.  And anyone who Googles your name
will see that.  The same cannot be said for some others and people in
the Meteorite Community know who is who.  So, if anyone mistakenly
thought my report was an indictment of your website or character, they
are in error.  That was certainly not my intent and I am merely
reporting the numbers and providing some general analysis.

FWIW, Al you are far from alone in seeing your PR drop to zero.  Norm
Lehrman, Michael Johnson and Erich Haiderer all experienced the same
reduction in PR and everyone knows they are good people as well.
Google PR is not always a fair representation of a website's
informational value and as Paul Harris pointed out - Google PR is far
from being the only determining factor in search engine performance
for a website.  And as Jeff Kuyken pointed out, PR can vary depending
on geographical area.  Your PR might be zero from my iteration of
Google, but I have no way of determining what the PR is for versions
of Google in Europe, Asia, or elsewhere.

Whether we like it or not, search engines are a significant source of
traffic and new visitors for any website.  People will always feel
confident in buying from a source they are familiar with, regardless
of PR.  But, brand new visitors who come across your website in the
results of a search engine query may become your next best friend or
most loyal repeat customer.  Some of my best clients have found me via
Google or Facebook - the latter is an entirely different game and
story.

Jim W. said -

If you want true PR and you want to grow your business, then do what
it takes and forget about these silly big boy numbers games. Get out
there and be part of a
larger community, because most of you are not known any better than
the up and coming Moroccan dealers that sooner or later will get their
PR act together
and kick your butt!Living in a 'click' will not grow your business.

Jim, I agree with the spirit of what you said.  But, the internet is a
technology game, whether we like it or not.  Ignoring things like
Google PR or conversion rates is not a positive thing - it is like
statistics in sports - they often do not tell the whole story, but
much useful information can be gleaned from them.  If a website is not
living up to it's potential, then it is doing it's owner a disservice
and if that owner ignores ways to improve their traffic/conversions,
then they are doing their business a disservice.

For those who do not care about the business side of meteorites or the
technology side of the internet, then ignore reports such as these and
continue doing business in the way that best suits your needs.

Best regards and Happy Holidays,

MikeG

PS - some private comments and responses to my post :

Nice work

Thanks for this interesting report.

 I don't know what the mainstream dealer's reaction to your report
is.  But from my viewpoint as hunter/finder, and buyer/collector, I
think you deserve one helluva major attaboy!


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On 12/23/13, almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com wrote:
 Greetings,

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-12-23 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: TIL 82403

Contributed by: AMN

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp
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