[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 2857 Contributed by: Don Skidmore http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
I've noticed this list has shut it's collective mouth. I remember the outcry to stop ads and spam. I remember the honest and often rowdy interchange of info that was shared here on a daily basis. That was the main reason why people came here. It was ugly sometimes, fun other times but always interesting and actually compelling. A great meteorite soap opera it was. I suggest we return to Art's original no holds barred format, minus the spam and ads of course. Has the list become the AD list I feared it would? Sure looks like it. Maybe we are just getting old... We sure ain't getting young :P __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Korea Fireball Meteor Caught on Camera 09MAR2913
List, Korea Fireball Meteor Caught on Camera 09MAR2913 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/03/korea-fireball-meteor-09mar2013.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rosetta's Comet Wakes Up (67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko)
http://www.mps.mpg.de/3261529/Rosetta_s-comet-wakes-up Rosetta's comet wakes up In new images recorded by ESO's Very Large Telescope comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko appears brighter than expected. Max Planck Institute March 10, 2014 It's back! After comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko had disappeared behind the Sun and out of the Earth's view last year in October, the target comet of ESA's Rosetta mission can now be seen again. In the most recent image obtained by researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (MPS) in Germany and the European Southern Observatory (ESO) with the help of ESO's Very Large Telescope on February 28th, 2014, the comet presents itself brighter than expected for the nucleus alone. This suggests that frozen ice is already beginning to vaporize and form a very thin atmosphere. In August, the spacecraft Rosetta will rendezvous with 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko and accompany it on its journey around the Sun until at least the end of 2015. [Images] Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko as observed on Februaray 28th, 2014, with the Very Large Telescope. To obtain a measurable image of the comet from a distance of 740 million kilometers, the scientists superposed several exposures taken at slightly different times. Before, the images were shifted to compensate for the comet's motion. The stars in the background therefore appear as broadly smudged lines. Subtracting the starry background then revealed the comet: a tiny dot in space. For researchers, this tiny dot carries valuable information. Already 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko is approximately 50 percent brighter than in the last images from October 2013. While the comet has moved another 50 million kilometers closer to Earth in this time (and 80 million kilometers closer to the Sun), the increase in brightness cannot be explained by the smaller distance alone. The new image suggests that 67P is beginning to emit gas and dust at a relatively large distance from the Sun, says Colin Snodgrass from the MPS. This confirms a study presented by Snodgrass and his colleagues last year in which they had compared the comet's brightness as recorded during its previous orbits around the Sun. The calculations showed that already in March 2014 its activity would be measurable from Earth. In the coming months, the researchers will continue to monitor how the comet's brightness develops in close collaboration with ESA. The data will help to assess what conditions await Rosetta upon arrival in August. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Be an Asteroid Hunter in NASA's First Asteroid Grand Challenge Contest Series
March 10, 2014 RELEASE 14-071 Be an Asteroid Hunter in NASA's First Asteroid Grand Challenge Contest Series NASA's Asteroid Data Hunter contest series will offer $35,000 in awards over the next six months to citizen scientists who develop improved algorithms that can be used to identify asteroids. This contest series is being conducted in partnership with Planetary Resources Inc. of Bellevue, Wash. The first contest in the series will kick off on March 17. Prior to the kick off, competitors can create an account on the contest series website and learn more about the rules and different phases of the contest series by going to: http://bit.ly/AsteroidHunters Managed by the NASA Tournament Lab, the entire contest series runs through August and is the first contest series contributing to the agency's Asteroid Grand Challenge. For the past three years, NASA has been learning and advancing the ability to leverage distributed algorithm and coding skills through the NASA Tournament Lab to solve tough problems, said Jason Crusan, NASA Tournament Lab director. We are now applying our experience with algorithm contests to helping protect the planet from asteroid threats through image analysis. The Asteroid Data Hunter contest series challenges participants to develop significantly improved algorithms to identify asteroids in images captured by ground-based telescopes. The winning solution must increase the detection sensitivity, minimize the number of false positives, ignore imperfections in the data, and run effectively on all computer systems. Protecting the planet from the threat of asteroid impact means first knowing where they are, said Jenn Gustetic, Prizes and Challenges Program executive. By opening up the search for asteroids, we are harnessing the potential of innovators and makers and citizen scientists everywhere to help solve this global challenge. Gustetic and Jason Kessler, Grand Challenges Program executive, will host a panel March 10 at the South by Southwest Festival in Austin, Texas titled Are We Smarter than the Dinosaurs? to talk about how open innovation can meaningfully engage people in discussions on and research into space exploration and help us solve problems of global importance. They will provide an outline of the Asteroid Data Hunter contest series and other efforts to detect asteroid threats, as well as ideas for mitigating these threats. Current asteroid detection initiatives are only tracking one percent of the estimated objects that orbit the Sun. We are excited to partner with NASA in this contest to help increase the quantity and knowledge about asteroids that are potential threats, human destinations, or resource rich. said Chris Lewicki, President and Chief Engineer of the asteroid mining company Planetary Resources, Inc. Applying distributed algorithm and coding skills to the extensive NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey data set will yield important insights into the state of the art in detecting asteroids. Through NASA's asteroid initiative, the agency seeks to enhance its ongoing work in the identification and characterization of near-Earth objects for further scientific investigation. This work includes locating potentially hazardous asteroids and identifying those viable for redirection to a stable lunar orbit for future exploration by astronauts. The Asteroid Grand Challenge, one part of the asteroid initiative, expands the agency's efforts beyond traditional boundaries and encourages partnerships and collaboration with a variety of organizations. The algorithm contests are managed and executed by NASA's Center of Excellence for Collaborative Innovation (CoECI). CoECI was established at the request of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy to advance NASA open innovation efforts and extend that expertise to other federal agencies. CoECI uses the NASA Tournament Lab (NTL) for its advanced algorithmic and software development contests. Through its contract with Harvard Business School in association with Harvard's Institute of Quantitative Social Science, NTL uses the topcoder platform to enable a community of more than 600,000 designers, developers and data scientists to create the most innovative, efficient and optimized solutions for specific, real-world challenges faced by NASA. For more information on NASA's Center of Excellence for Collaborative Innovation, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/coeci For more information on Planetary Resources, Inc., visit: http://www.planetaryresources.com For more information on NASA's asteroid initiative, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/asteroidinitiative -end- Sarah Ramsey Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1694 sarah.ram...@nasa.gov __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list
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Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! Rock On Anyway! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this list has shut it's collective mouth. I remember the outcry to stop ads and spam. I remember the honest and often rowdy interchange of info that was shared here on a daily basis. That was the main reason why people came here. It was ugly sometimes, fun other times but always interesting and actually compelling. A great meteorite soap opera it was. I suggest we return to Art's original no holds barred format, minus the spam and ads of course. Has the list become the AD list I feared it would? Sure looks like it. Maybe we are just getting old... We sure ain't getting young :P __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! -- Rock On Anyway! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Flakes like Bill K. are part of the reason people are not posting as much. When someone posts something and they get an inbox full psychotic hate-mail in response, it tends to leave them with a bad taste about the whole community. Bill, if you hate ads so much, do this : BLOCK THEM. Add a new filter to your email client and block all messages that have Ad in the subject field. That is why Art requires that, so people can tell at a glance if something is an ad or not. And it makes the ads easier to block. But, I guess that is too difficult for some people. It's much easier for them to send a string of crazy emails full of hateful and ignorant invective. Amazingly, I posted a question about the chemistry of Martian meteorites and it got one reply - from Dr. Carl Agee. This complaint email we are currently engaging in has had more replies than a scientific inquiry question. Did I complain about it? No, not until now, because it's suddenly relevant to the discussion we are now having. I see numerous good questions posted to the List that are met with crickets and tumbleweeds. If the List is getting boring, how about posting something thought-provoking that will generate some earnest discussion? Bitching about the ads is not contributing anything positive. I have a ton of orders to pack today - thank you Met-List members. Apparently some people do not mind the ads. They use the ads to acquire specimens for their collections. Some people delete the ads or respond to them by purchasing. And then we have some people who have a compulsive hatred for ads, coupon codes, and other things that they deem offensive for reasons that only make sense to a bitter old man with a bug up his behind. [/my two cents] -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! Rock On Anyway! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:19 AM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this list has shut it's collective mouth. I remember the outcry to stop ads and spam. I remember the honest and often rowdy interchange of info that was shared here on a daily basis. That was the main reason why people came here. It was ugly sometimes, fun other times but always interesting and actually compelling. A great meteorite soap opera it was. I suggest we return to Art's original no holds barred format, minus the spam and ads of course. Has the list become the AD list I feared it would? Sure looks like it. Maybe we are just getting old... We sure ain't getting young :P __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
I agree too, Ruben. And yes, anytime I post something, like announcing the Ivory Coast Tektites yesterday, I get responses too. So, yes, there are people around, hiding in the shadows, or being too shy to comment. So I would say to all those people: Don't be shy! Speak up! Post here, don't post on Facebook. Please remember that there are lots of people who are not on Facebook, who don't want to be on Facebook. And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these years going and flourishing. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 11:36 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! -- Rock On Anyway! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard deviation of Cr2O3 in coarse ferroan chondrule olivines. I'm not saying that the Grossman and Brearley scheme is the ultimate, but it is simply the standard currently. What will really improve the subtype 3 nomenclature (and understanding of unequilibrated OCs) are more samples like NWA 7731 and NWA 8276. Up to now we have so few in the 3.15-3.00 range that the statistics of small numbers makes it hard to have meaningful subdivisions. I would gladly use an even finer scale (i.e. 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04 etc.) if it were actually established. The Grossman and Brearley (2005) scale is the only one that exists with any sort of sampling to anchor it. We just have too few samples to establish a finer scale. And when one starts talking about all the possible subtle differences around 3.00, I'm not sure if a numerical, linear scale would even make sense. The nice thing about discovering more of these very low type 3s is that more will hopefully be available for research. Semarkona, because much of it resides in India and some at the Smithsonian (I believe), it is hard to get a hold of. For example we only have a couple thin sections of Semarkona at UNM -- not even a tiny fragment! The items for sale (and pricing) may be viewed at http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale-4/nwa-8276-l3-00-w1-a-remarkable-and-scientifically-important-meteorite/ The photos have had no color manipulation and represent the true colors of this meteorite as viewed under studio lighting (5500K). Anyone interested in acquiring material may contact me by responding privately to this email or to Adam Bates (sa...@bcmeteorites.com). The transaction and any associated details will be kept strictly confidential. Regards, Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Shawn, There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th. Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault. Check your computer settings. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
... and as you can see from this, posting is instantaneous. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: photophlow photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Shawn, There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th. Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault. Check your computer settings. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Anne Go to Meteorite Central and .com and click on Click on list archives click on 2014 and click on march date and the last posting is march 5th so u see there has been many posting since then which are posted on the website, so it is Arts fault the way has done the new lay out. Before the over haul, I would make a post, and it would show up on meteorite central website within minutes. Now it take 5 to 10 days, unless you get everyones emails. S - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Shawn, There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th. Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault. Check your computer settings. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
well yeah cause you have your setting set up as u get every email from meteorite central sent to your in box. But my statement isn't about the email system it about the website and the website isn't instant, take a look and see for your self ... http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/2014/mar/date.html m march 5th is current posting, were is todays? m before Art changed the website, posts were instant on the website :) but not now :( its snail mail. S - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid ... and as you can see from this, posting is instantaneous. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: photophlow photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Shawn, There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th. Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault. Check your computer settings. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
If you contact Adam directly for a purchase, please let me know so I can mark it as sold on the website. Mendy Ouzillou On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard deviation of Cr2O3 in coarse ferroan chondrule olivines. I'm not saying that the Grossman and Brearley scheme is the ultimate, but it is simply the standard currently. What will really improve the subtype 3 nomenclature (and understanding of unequilibrated OCs) are more samples like NWA 7731 and NWA 8276. Up to now we have so few in the 3.15-3.00 range that the statistics of small numbers makes it hard to have meaningful subdivisions. I would gladly use an even finer scale (i.e. 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04 etc.) if it were actually established. The Grossman and Brearley (2005) scale is the only one that exists with any sort of sampling to anchor it. We just have too few samples to establish a finer scale. And when one starts talking about all the possible subtle differences around 3.00, I'm not sure if a numerical, linear scale would even make sense. The nice thing about discovering more of these very low type 3s is that more will hopefully be available for research. Semarkona, because much of it resides in India and some at the Smithsonian (I believe), it is hard to get a hold of. For example we only have a couple thin sections of Semarkona at UNM -- not even a tiny fragment! The items for sale (and pricing) may be viewed at http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale-4/nwa-8276-l3-00-w1-a-remarkable-and-scientifically-important-meteorite/ The photos have had no color manipulation and represent the true colors of this meteorite as viewed under studio lighting (5500K). Anyone interested in acquiring material may contact me by responding privately to this email or to Adam Bates (sa...@bcmeteorites.com). The transaction and any associated details will be kept strictly confidential. Regards, Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Anne, I think Shawn is referring to the list archives, I also used to use this method rather than getting every message by email as it came through. I would have this webpage permanently open on mt laptop and on my phone and refresh it to see the latest posts. As the number of posts has reduced drastically i now to the individual emails. Shawn is correct in saying though that the archives now have a huge delay in posts appearing so if you dont subscribe to the individual emails then you wont see all posts and certainly not in real time. I understand what you say in that not everyone uses facebook or wants to use it but i have found that much of the meteorite talk happens there and without it there is a lot that is being missed out on. As Matt says, you can post any number of photos that can all be commented on, there are numerous meteorite related 'groups' that you can subscribe to. I also like the fact that i can mix personal and meteorite related posts so if i post a photo of my daughter for example i find that friends from the meteorite community also comment on the image and so my web of friends has vastly extended. It is very interactive and there have been some great discussions on meteorites too. Also there are quite a few meteorite scientists on there too :-) I have noted quite a posts that have been made to the metlist and then repeated on one of the meteorite facebook groups. Whilst the metlist post recieves no replies, the identical facebook post sees numerous replies and sparks off a great discussion. I would hate to see the metlist stop and am very appreciative of the time and money Art has put into it but my 2 cents is it certainly needs to change somehow to keep up and compete with facebook. Cheers Martin On 10 March 2014 19:55, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Anne Go to Meteorite Central and .com and click on Click on list archives click on 2014 and click on march date and the last posting is march 5th so u see there has been many posting since then which are posted on the website, so it is Arts fault the way has done the new lay out. Before the over haul, I would make a post, and it would show up on meteorite central website within minutes. Now it take 5 to 10 days, unless you get everyones emails. S - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Shawn, There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th. Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault. Check your computer settings. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7175 - Release Date: 03/10/14 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7175 - Release Date: 03/10/14 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these years going and flourishing. Yes, let's do that! Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. I agree! Serious meteorite-related discussions and exchange require texts, no 'thumbs up' ! Quality information about meteorites belongs HERE first! Best regards Martin Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2014 um 21:39 Uhr Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com An: Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone[http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone] Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone[http://twitter.com/galacticstone] Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone[http://pinterest.com/galacticstone] - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html[http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html] http://meteoritefalls.com/[http://meteoritefalls.com/] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com[http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com]
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these years going and flourishing. Yes, let's do that! Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. I agree! Serious meteorite-related discussions and exchange require texts, no 'thumbs up' ! Quality information about meteorites belongs HERE first! Best regards Martin So.. New classified interesting and rare meteorite anoucement is quality information or its spam ? I have feeling that its spam and will be banned or limited. Looks like till 31 march I can send email to the list like this: I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 for sale but from 1st aprill... I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 in my collection Is that correct ? :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2014 um 21:39 Uhr Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com An: Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone[http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone] Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone[http://twitter.com/galacticstone] Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone[http://pinterest.com/galacticstone] - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not
Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Yes Anne...let's keep it alive...I always try and contribute to discussions if I have something to say that I think is useful. Perhaps I should start a new topic...I have a question. Graham On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: I agree too, Ruben. And yes, anytime I post something, like announcing the Ivory Coast Tektites yesterday, I get responses too. So, yes, there are people around, hiding in the shadows, or being too shy to comment. So I would say to all those people: Don't be shy! Speak up! Post here, don't post on Facebook. Please remember that there are lots of people who are not on Facebook, who don't want to be on Facebook. And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these years going and flourishing. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 11:36 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! -- Rock On Anyway! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buying meteorites abroad?
Questionhas anybody got any advice about the best way to make payments around the world to areas that will not take Paypal...eg online with Western Union or similar? Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
I miss Sterling Webb. His posts were always interesting. He doesn't seem to post much any more. If we want to make things interesting on the List, let's invite Goran Lindfors to participate. The List will get very busy then... ;) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Anne...let's keep it alive...I always try and contribute to discussions if I have something to say that I think is useful. Perhaps I should start a new topic...I have a question. Graham On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: I agree too, Ruben. And yes, anytime I post something, like announcing the Ivory Coast Tektites yesterday, I get responses too. So, yes, there are people around, hiding in the shadows, or being too shy to comment. So I would say to all those people: Don't be shy! Speak up! Post here, don't post on Facebook. Please remember that there are lots of people who are not on Facebook, who don't want to be on Facebook. And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these years going and flourishing. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 11:36 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Click on the link to see The LIST response to Bill's comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU Just Kidding, Of course, I agree with Bill.. It seems that every meteorite forum known to mankind is more active that the Met-list. Including (but not limited to) NuggetShooter.com, Club Space Rock, Facebook and even Gmail and Yahoo forums. What's odd is I do get hundreds of views when I post a meteorite related photo or video on this forum. Which means there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people on this forum that feel the need to stay but not show their presence. About now I sense a collective yawn ...and delete.. right on cue! -- Rock On Anyway! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never get to see them -- and it can feel silent. Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Buying meteorites abroad?
Questionhas anybody got any advice about the best way to make payments around the world to areas that will not take Paypal...eg online with Western Union or similar? Graham Hello Graham and List If You think about purchasing something from Morocco, then Western Union or bank transfer. For less trusted places like for example Burkina Faso (Gao-Guenie) only Western Union and only after You receive material first. I dont see any other way to go. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet!
Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Like ;-) On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never get to see them -- and it can feel silent. Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art to how it was :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet!
Like!! Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet! Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet!
Told You! I ALSO LIKE! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Like!! Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet! Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never get to see them -- and it can feel silent. Carl Agee Well said Carl! Some persons dont like/understand or affraid of social media platforms (my parents :) like Facebook. But hey, lets compare Met-list and Facebook to Radio and TV. When You hear news during our ride in the car, it causes that You do not watch the news on TV later ? No, You watch TV becouse it offers more informations than radio. And even if radio is still usefull in some situation we spend more time watching TV. Yes ? Same is here. Met-list is perfect for longer discussion while Facebook is better for fast news, sales, PHOTOS and MOVIES etc. So dont be affraid, You dont need to share Your private life there. But places like Meteorite group where at the moment we have 1291 members is great upgrade. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months. we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman, (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason. In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity - sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the ads are more noticeable. Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote: In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before the over haul. Hi Shawn, In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said, maybe you have your reasons. Regards, Bob L. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Hello Listers My two cents The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day
Re: [meteorite-list] Buying meteorites abroad?
Thanks Marcin...and all the others who have replied offlist with advice (lots)any other suggestions gratefully received. Cheers, Graham On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM, PolandMET mar...@polandmet.com wrote: Questionhas anybody got any advice about the best way to make payments around the world to areas that will not take Paypal...eg online with Western Union or similar? Graham Hello Graham and List If You think about purchasing something from Morocco, then Western Union or bank transfer. For less trusted places like for example Burkina Faso (Gao-Guenie) only Western Union and only after You receive material first. I dont see any other way to go. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented ChelyabinskMeteorites on the Internet!
well I wait for LIKE from Art now :) Like!! Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet! Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Greetings all, One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active million people wanting to discuss the subject. I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are capable of looking up their own information without someone posting multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway. It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new comers. Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here) We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss. Could also be once a month. Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get discussion going. The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level. Just some ideas. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years as a dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet!
I LIKE Anne, because she is so honest! Like that? On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: Very nice Chelyabinsks Ruben, great variety of clear orientation features. And no, I don't like that like button idea, because it means nothing. If you like something take a minute to write something, just one sentence will do, to say why you like it or what you like about it. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet! Told You! I ALSO LIKE! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Like!! Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet! Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Ad/ Forwarded from Larry Atkins!
thetopr...@aol.com Hello List, I have a couple slices of a meteorite I found in 2012. It's from the fairly new Arizona strewn field that has been classified but is not yet published as field work continues. I also have a 27.6 g complete stone from Indian Butte with no reserve and it's currently under $50.00! There are two slices as well. Rare, NWA 6581, LL6 with less than 150 g tkw, no bids yet. Can't seem to get the eBay link on my phone so just search user alienrockfarm. Regards, Larry Atkins __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
John, That is a great question and one that deserves an educated response. I will do my best, but hopefully Carl can chime in. We went back and forth on listing the shock for this stone and ultimately felt it would be confusing. Shock equals heat and this stone being a 3.00 has had no thermal metamorphism. It is possible that its shock value is as high as S2 but as I understand it there is no way to reliably measure shock in such a low petrologic state as 3.00. Best! Mendy Ouzillou From: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: 'Mendy Ouzillou' ouzil...@yahoo.com; 'Met-List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Adam Bates' sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=All mblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard deviation of Cr2O3 in coarse ferroan chondrule olivines. I'm not saying that the Grossman and Brearley scheme is the ultimate, but it is simply the standard currently. What will really improve the subtype 3 nomenclature (and understanding of unequilibrated OCs) are more samples like NWA 7731 and NWA 8276. Up to now we have so few in the 3.15-3.00 range that the statistics of small numbers makes it hard to have meaningful subdivisions. I would gladly use an even finer scale (i.e. 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04 etc.) if it were actually established. The Grossman and Brearley (2005) scale is
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Probably none of my business, but I would have some thin sections made. We did that for NWA 7731 for research and they are spectacular. The porphyritic chondrules -- dazzling and crystal clear! Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: John, That is a great question and one that deserves an educated response. I will do my best, but hopefully Carl can chime in. We went back and forth on listing the shock for this stone and ultimately felt it would be confusing. Shock equals heat and this stone being a 3.00 has had no thermal metamorphism. It is possible that its shock value is as high as S2 but as I understand it there is no way to reliably measure shock in such a low petrologic state as 3.00. Best! Mendy Ouzillou From: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: 'Mendy Ouzillou' ouzil...@yahoo.com; 'Met-List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Adam Bates' sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondriteL3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=All mblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Carl, Your comments and questions are always welcome and I am already looking into it ... Can you comment on the shock question below? Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com Cc: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net; Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Bates sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Probably none of my business, but I would have some thin sections made. We did that for NWA 7731 for research and they are spectacular. The porphyritic chondrules -- dazzling and crystal clear! Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: John, That is a great question and one that deserves an educated response. I will do my best, but hopefully Carl can chime in. We went back and forth on listing the shock for this stone and ultimately felt it would be confusing. Shock equals heat and this stone being a 3.00 has had no thermal metamorphism. It is possible that its shock value is as high as S2 but as I understand it there is no way to reliably measure shock in such a low petrologic state as 3.00. Best! Mendy Ouzillou From: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: 'Mendy Ouzillou' ouzil...@yahoo.com; 'Met-List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Adam Bates' sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=All mblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Hi LIST! Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure. How did Gujba form? Richard Rick Bob Montgomery -Original Message- From: almi...@localnet.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Greetings all, One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active million people wanting to discuss the subject. I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are capable of looking up their own information without someone posting multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway. It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new comers. Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here) We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss. Could also be once a month. Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get discussion going. The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level. Just some ideas. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years as a dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites on the Internet!
Those are pretty spectacular oriented stones. Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, just look! http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Chilean Meteorites - where are they?
Hi List, I have noticed an uptick in meteorites from Chile being approved. There seems to be quite a few meteorites coming out of the Atacama now - mostly OC's, but occasionally something interesting like a CO or achondrite. Where do those meteorites end up? Have any ever made it onto the collector market? Recent example (just approved today) - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59498 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Chilean Meteorites - where are they?
Hi, A friend, list member, and all round nice guy is the finder and holder of most of these specimens... Maybe he'll come forward and talk about them? On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have noticed an uptick in meteorites from Chile being approved. There seems to be quite a few meteorites coming out of the Atacama now - mostly OC's, but occasionally something interesting like a CO or achondrite. Where do those meteorites end up? Have any ever made it onto the collector market? Recent example (just approved today) - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59498 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Please excuse my prior post. My fingers are fat today. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Looks like till 31 march I can send email to the list like this: I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 for sale but from 1st aprill... I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 in my collection Is that correct ? :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
damn, You just won prize for Best question of the month ! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Hi LIST! Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure. How did Gujba form? Richard Rick Bob Montgomery -Original Message- From: almi...@localnet.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Greetings all, One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active million people wanting to discuss the subject. I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are capable of looking up their own information without someone posting multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway. It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new comers. Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here) We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss. Could also be once a month. Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get discussion going. The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level. Just some ideas. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years as a dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=All mblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard deviation of Cr2O3 in coarse ferroan chondrule olivines. I'm not saying that the Grossman and Brearley scheme is the ultimate, but it is simply the standard currently. What will really improve the subtype 3 nomenclature (and understanding of unequilibrated OCs) are more samples like NWA 7731 and NWA 8276. Up to now we have so few in the 3.15-3.00 range that the statistics of small numbers makes it hard to have meaningful subdivisions. I would gladly use an even finer scale (i.e. 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04 etc.) if it were actually established. The Grossman and Brearley (2005) scale is the only one that exists with any sort of sampling to anchor it. We just have too few samples to establish a finer scale. And when one starts talking about all the possible subtle differences around 3.00, I'm not sure if a numerical, linear scale would even make sense. The nice thing about discovering more of these very low type 3s is that more will hopefully be available for research. Semarkona, because much of it resides in India and some at the Smithsonian (I believe), it is hard to get a hold of. For example we only have a couple thin sections of Semarkona at UNM -- not even a tiny fragment! The items for sale (and pricing) may be viewed at http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale-4/nwa-8276-l3-00-w1-a-remar kable-and-scientifically-important-meteorite/ The photos have had no color manipulation and represent the true colors of this meteorite as
Re: [meteorite-list] New Chilean Meteorites - where are they?
Possibly Rodrigo? http://www.thisischile.cl/8541/2/meteorite-museum-in-northern-chile-takes-you-out-on-the-hunt/News.aspx Anyone fancy a trip? ;-) Graham On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A friend, list member, and all round nice guy is the finder and holder of most of these specimens... Maybe he'll come forward and talk about them? On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have noticed an uptick in meteorites from Chile being approved. There seems to be quite a few meteorites coming out of the Atacama now - mostly OC's, but occasionally something interesting like a CO or achondrite. Where do those meteorites end up? Have any ever made it onto the collector market? Recent example (just approved today) - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59498 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Chilean Meteorites - where are they?
Hi Here is the website where most (all?) Atacama main masses found new home. http://www.museodelmeteorito.cl/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=18Itemid=24 To bad its in spanish :( -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Possibly Rodrigo? http://www.thisischile.cl/8541/2/meteorite-museum-in-northern-chile-takes-you-out-on-the-hunt/News.aspx Anyone fancy a trip? ;-) Graham On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A friend, list member, and all round nice guy is the finder and holder of most of these specimens... Maybe he'll come forward and talk about them? On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have noticed an uptick in meteorites from Chile being approved. There seems to be quite a few meteorites coming out of the Atacama now - mostly OC's, but occasionally something interesting like a CO or achondrite. Where do those meteorites end up? Have any ever made it onto the collector market? Recent example (just approved today) - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59498 Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
A quick google search yielded Eric Twelker’s site which, in turn, references a great intro to Gujba article. See: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2002/pdf/1551.pdf Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada t...@rogers.com On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:14 PM, rickm...@earthlink.net rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi LIST! Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure. How did Gujba form? Richard Rick Bob Montgomery -Original Message- From: almi...@localnet.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid Greetings all, One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active million people wanting to discuss the subject. I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are capable of looking up their own information without someone posting multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway. It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new comers. Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here) We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss. Could also be once a month. Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get discussion going. The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level. Just some ideas. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years as a dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Yes, I think you are hung-up on shock! Please take a look at the MetBull entry if you want see an example of highest quality write-up (JMHO). We literally included the kitchen sink on this one, publication quality data set -- mainly because a 3.00 doesn't come along every day. Best regards, Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM, kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net wrote: Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee can chime in. The complete writeup may be found here: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=3.00sfor=typesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=All mblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=59487 The explanation how this meteorite was identified makes for a short but very good read (from MetBull): Adam Bates identified this meteorite from images he received as a possible pairing to NWA 7731,even though they came from a different Moroccan meteorite dealer. Both pieces were then purchased within a few weeks of each other in October 2013. Adam Bates and I partnered on half the stone and anxiously awaited for Dr. Agee's results. It was not a given that this was in fact paired with NWA 7731, especially since the meteorite was bought from a completely different dealer. There were visual differences in the stone that led Carl to initially believe that 8276 may be different from 7731. In the end, the classification came back as L3.00 but with enough differences to state that NWA 8276 is possibly paired with NWA 7731. The terrestrial weathering is also quite low and only an W1. Many people state meteorites as being rare, but some are certainly rarer than others. The type 3.00 classification has only been given to 3 meteorites: Semarkona (LL3.00), NWA 7731 (L3.00) and now NWA 8276 (L3.00). Here is an excerpt from Dr. Agee's FB discussion with David Weir on the 3.00 classification and the rarity of this material: Grossman and Brearley (2005)define the subtypes less than 3.2 as 3.15, 3.10, 3.05, and 3.00. [This scale is] primarily based on the mean value and standard deviation of Cr2O3 in coarse ferroan chondrule olivines. I'm not saying that the Grossman and Brearley scheme is the ultimate, but it is simply the standard currently. What will really improve the subtype 3 nomenclature (and understanding of unequilibrated OCs) are more samples like NWA 7731 and NWA 8276. Up to now we have so few in the 3.15-3.00 range that the statistics of small numbers makes it hard to have meaningful subdivisions. I would gladly use an even finer scale (i.e. 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04 etc.) if it were actually established. The Grossman and Brearley (2005) scale is the only one that exists with any sort of sampling to anchor it. We just have too few samples to establish a finer scale. And when
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?)
Hi John, NWA 8276 was analyzed completely independently of NWA 7731, although we also did that one. Each one has its own data set. Carl * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:36 PM, kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net wrote: Carl, Is this based on the thin sections UNM made of possibly paired NWA 7731 L3.00 W1? - John From: cb.a...@gmail.com [mailto:cb.a...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Carl Agee Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:23 PM To: Mendy Ouzillou Cc: kashuba; Adam Bates; Met-List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Shock is low. On Mar 10, 2014 6:23 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl, Your comments and questions are always welcome and I am already looking into it ... Can you comment on the shock question below? Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com Cc: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net; Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Bates sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Probably none of my business, but I would have some thin sections made. We did that for NWA 7731 for research and they are spectacular. The porphyritic chondrules -- dazzling and crystal clear! Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: John, That is a great question and one that deserves an educated response. I will do my best, but hopefully Carl can chime in. We went back and forth on listing the shock for this stone and ultimately felt it would be confusing. Shock equals heat and this stone being a 3.00 has had no thermal metamorphism. It is possible that its shock value is as high as S2 but as I understand it there is no way to reliably measure shock in such a low petrologic state as 3.00. Best! Mendy Ouzillou From: kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: 'Mendy Ouzillou' ouzil...@yahoo.com; 'Met-List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Adam Bates' sa...@bcmeteorites.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondriteL3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Mendy, Adam, List, Congratulations on discovering this special rock. I saw it in Adam's room in Tucson and we talked about it. A 3.00 calls to every collector. But there was no shock rating so I was reluctant to buy. There was another valuable stone at another dealer that I passed on for the same reason. Maybe I'm stuck in tradition, but when I'm considering a shocked stone, I like to know how shocked it is. When I'm considering a pristine chondrite, I want to know how pristine. That includes the effects of thermal metamorphism, aqueous alteration, terrestrial weathering and shock. None of these is necessarily a deal breaker, but each plays into my seat of the pants cost-benefit deliberation. Semarkona is considered unshocked and unequilibrated. It is spectacular in thin section. It's hard to know what NWA 8276 L3.00 W1 would look like. Sincerely, John Kashuba Bend, Oregon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:35 PM To: Met-List; Adam Bates Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD]: NWA 8276 - the NOT SO ordinary chondrite L3.00/W1 (and the start of an interesting discussion?) Hello everyone, The NWA desert continues to thrill us this with unique and amazing specimens. NWA 8276 is just such a meteorite. It is the second L3.00 and is possibly paired to NWA 7731. NWA 8276 features a rich, black crust and a yellowish matrix densely packed with chondrules. Extensive analysis by Dr. Carl Agee and Karen Ziegler support the 3.00 classification - a classification that indicates no heat or aqueous alteration of any kind (at least as far as can be presently evaluated). In fact, this meteorite represents material from the earliest history of our solar system. Older than CAIs? Not sure, but maybe Dr. Agee
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Hi all! I have posted specific and not so specific meteorite related questions here where Melinda Hutson, Alan Rubin and Carl Agee have answered my questions privately and here on this list. I absolutely appreciate this. I do this because I do have questions and I want good answers, which I receive here. I have received private emails complementing this effort to involve listees in my search for better understanding. So if you are a complainer, suck it up and quit your belly aching and get over it. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. I do admit, FB is great for sharing my Meteorite related stuff. My page is mostly about meteorite stuff which I am actively and constantly involved with. And, there is not one single Ad on there for meteorites! Many of you are there and I appreciate that and hope you enjoy my sharing. That said, many or most all of the meteorite related lists have died out and nothing much is being posted...so it is not just this list. I completely disagree that any list should direct what topic is to be discussed for any given time as someone suggested. So I switch you back to your normally scheduled activities and I will go back to watching epoxy mounts of green beach sand and NWA 7831/Kilbourne hole green stuff cure thanks to Gary and Greg! Best to all! Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Well said Jim and I'll give you a like. Traditions are changing. I was very adamant at first and held back from social media but it was the only way that I could keep in contact with my family. And yes, the days of forums are slowly dying unless you incorporate them into the social media, as Nugget Shooters has as well as many others. Just my $1.50AU Cheers John On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net wrote: Hi all! I have posted specific and not so specific meteorite related questions here where Melinda Hutson, Alan Rubin and Carl Agee have answered my questions privately and here on this list. I absolutely appreciate this. I do this because I do have questions and I want good answers, which I receive here. I have received private emails complementing this effort to involve listees in my search for better understanding. So if you are a complainer, suck it up and quit your belly aching and get over it. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. I do admit, FB is great for sharing my Meteorite related stuff. My page is mostly about meteorite stuff which I am actively and constantly involved with. And, there is not one single Ad on there for meteorites! Many of you are there and I appreciate that and hope you enjoy my sharing. That said, many or most all of the meteorite related lists have died out and nothing much is being posted...so it is not just this list. I completely disagree that any list should direct what topic is to be discussed for any given time as someone suggested. So I switch you back to your normally scheduled activities and I will go back to watching epoxy mounts of green beach sand and NWA 7831/Kilbourne hole green stuff cure thanks to Gary and Greg! Best to all! Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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