Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
When you stay in $20 per night hotels on Miracle Mile where the street girls show their goods usually rented by the hour, nothing less can be expected. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Tucson is scarier to me than Oman, Rub al Kali and the Australian Outback, especially at night. There is a reason that 24 hour convenience stores lock their doors at dusk and pass goods through barred windows at night there. The nearby Mexican border town of Nogales no fun either. Been there several times but no longer have the desire to return. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Teslas will not be built in Nevada, just batteries. Yes, great city cars. I'm sure Nevada is way more scary than say, Oman, the Rub al Kali, the Australian outback, etc. Camel Donga was more than 150 miles from the nearest road. Not even a casino nearby. I think I can handle off-road driving after more than 15000 miles of doing exactly that while meteorite hunting in the Arabian desert. The jeep looks cool. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Teslas, which are soon to be built right here in Nevada, are extremely nice city cars but you will need a $160,000.00 Jeep American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) Rubicon Brute or a Jeep Special Operations (SPLOPS) Rubicon to hang with the big boys in field :) What does a Tesla have to do with a trade show for Gems and Minerals other than not burning any fossil fuel? I wouldn't park my 65 Cobra 427 SC which gets between 4 to 8 miles per gallon anywhere near Tucson for fear that somebody might steal an irreplaceable piece of chrome or emblem from it. Good luck with the show and I will enjoy the Superbowl, And this Spring, I have a gut feeling that some lucky meteorite hunter is going to find the first North American lunar meteorite on a private ranch which can only be reached by a dirty and muddy road. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Tucson weather
The good news is that our usual Tucson sun is out, fog is lifting and the puddles will be drying up. A few clouds are hanging around but will be gone soon. Will be sunny and high seventies (f) for the forseeable future. Twink Monrad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics?
Adam, I am sorry the only one having adversity seems to be you. Good luck with that, one day when you actually leave your house and use those cool trucks you might be happier. Tucson won't be the same without you. But everyone here is getting a kick out of your posts regarding the show. It's ok, Bagdad Bob was funny as well. Those of us still in the business are doing fine, well, with some exceptions of people who think eBay sales and kickstarter scams will make them any money. Anyway, nice chatting with you, I have a very busy and large room of meteorites to attend to. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Mike, you should be commended for putting on a brave face during adversity. One just needs to look at news reports that have no reason to lie about attendance. I noticed attendance dropping off last year when I did go to the show. For the first time I can recall, getting a room is no problem at all this year. I left my options open and decided a few days ago it was not worth it for me this year. The lack of deals, bad weather, Superbowl traffic, scams and lack of meteorite social gatherings was enough to keep me away this year. The truth is that most people do not have much disposable income to attend the show in the first place is what the news is reporting. The millennials could care less about collectables these days and don't have any spare funds for non-electronic gadgets. I have a huge stockpile of meteorites and a warehouse full of antiques to prove it. The only hot items selling these days for me are vehicles and artifacts. My wife acquired a large U.S. space program collection which I will start listing items from in the up and coming weeks. My only hope is to break even on it since it was acquired due to an investor failing to pay a note. I wish all the honest dealers well and hope that collectors can find a piece or two to add to their collections. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I'm confused, how could attendance be lowest in decades? The show starts today. There are no rental cars and very hard to find a place to sleep in the entire city. It is pouring rain and flooding and hotel is full, parking lot completely full and people walking blocks in the rain to get here. My sales at just fine, and yes, there are no wholesale prices and supply is down and prices are up. Adam, Find new people to lie to you about the show because the ones telling you this crap are delusional, or come down for yourself. Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I take the buyer's market comment back. I just read some emails from several collectors and one dealer that vendors are asking full retail and there are very few bargains to be had. It used to be that it was worth the price of traveling there in order to pick up a few good deals. No such thing as wholesale prices until the end of the show when dealers become desperate to move inventory, some of which is left over from several years from past shows. In this case, the law of supply and demand appear to be out of sync. According to the press, there are a bunch of tire kickers who are holding onto their now, very limited, hard-earned cash so we will have to see what happens. I guess the lower cost of gas isn't helping or people are distracted with the Superbowl hosted in Glendale, Arizona which is expected to attract over one million tourists. Go Seahawks! Adam - Original Message - From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I guess everybody's perception is different. I read that attendance is the lowest in a decade and two meteorite dealers, one artifact dealer and one mineral vendor I talked to said they would be lucky to earn their show fees back and they probably will not be returning next year. It looks like a buyers market to me. Adam . - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Tucson is jumping. All hotels full. More people than in many years. Sales are good. Supply is way down. Prices are up because supply running out. The show is great. Last year was my best year at the show, didn't sell a million $$$ but
[meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
I drove my $1,750.32 Geo Metro (yes, I have the pink slip) to the Hotel City Center, aka the Inn Suites, yesterday after lunch. Parking was indeed full up but I got a good spot in the big parking lot because I gave the guy in the rain slicker half of my sandwich. Poor guy was miserable out there doing traffic control. He put my ride high-and-dry under the power tower and told me he'd keep an eye on it. Can't beat that! I can't say much about supply and demand except I want just about everything I saw:) Only spent an hour - too miserable with all the standing water. When I got back to the parking lot I noticed that the attendant had washed my window! Thanked him and went home. Paul Swartz From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
This will be my last post on the Tucson subject so feel free to get the last word in if you find it to be important. I need to focus on more positive things like the Superbowl. My wife is busy preparing food for all the guys and girls attending an out-of-doors Superbowl party. I should feel fortunate that the weather is good enough around here to watch a big screen outside. It will provide a rare escape from the reality of what is happening to perfectly honest and hard working people these last few years. Some the happiest people I know are content with simple things that do not complicate their lives. Perhaps I can learn a thing or two from them. On that note; It is time to tap the keg and forget about this nonsense, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show When you stay in $20 per night hotels on Miracle Mile where the street girls show their goods usually rented by the hour, nothing less can be expected. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Tucson is scarier to me than Oman, Rub al Kali and the Australian Outback, especially at night. There is a reason that 24 hour convenience stores lock their doors at dusk and pass goods through barred windows at night there. The nearby Mexican border town of Nogales no fun either. Been there several times but no longer have the desire to return. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Teslas will not be built in Nevada, just batteries. Yes, great city cars. I'm sure Nevada is way more scary than say, Oman, the Rub al Kali, the Australian outback, etc. Camel Donga was more than 150 miles from the nearest road. Not even a casino nearby. I think I can handle off-road driving after more than 15000 miles of doing exactly that while meteorite hunting in the Arabian desert. The jeep looks cool. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Teslas, which are soon to be built right here in Nevada, are extremely nice city cars but you will need a $160,000.00 Jeep American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) Rubicon Brute or a Jeep Special Operations (SPLOPS) Rubicon to hang with the big boys in field :) What does a Tesla have to do with a trade show for Gems and Minerals other than not burning any fossil fuel? I wouldn't park my 65 Cobra 427 SC which gets between 4 to 8 miles per gallon anywhere near Tucson for fear that somebody might steal an irreplaceable piece of chrome or emblem from it. Good luck with the show and I will enjoy the Superbowl, And this Spring, I have a gut feeling that some lucky meteorite hunter is going to find the first North American lunar meteorite on a private ranch which can only be reached by a dirty and muddy road. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics?
Good luck at the show. I do not depend much on eBay these days although it is a good place to liquidate items if you are not concerned about getting anywhere near top dollar. I still believe better deals are to be had online these days for collectors who choose to stay home and make deals. I feel sorry for all the Tucson show attendees that came early believing they would get a good deal (full retail) from the Moroccans who's inventories are stuck in customs. It is appalling that some meteorite personalities would be involved with crowdfunding (kistarter scams) and I have no clue who Bagdad Bob is since I tend to stay away from heavily monitored social media. I leave Facebook to my wife who can waste time comparing recipes, posting pictures and other small talk.Even the creator of Facebook didn't have an account until a few years ago. He doesn't have time for it. It will be good to get back in the field and away from those who I no longer trust, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? Adam, I am sorry the only one having adversity seems to be you. Good luck with that, one day when you actually leave your house and use those cool trucks you might be happier. Tucson won't be the same without you. But everyone here is getting a kick out of your posts regarding the show. It's ok, Bagdad Bob was funny as well. Those of us still in the business are doing fine, well, with some exceptions of people who think eBay sales and kickstarter scams will make them any money. Anyway, nice chatting with you, I have a very busy and large room of meteorites to attend to. Michael Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Mike, you should be commended for putting on a brave face during adversity. One just needs to look at news reports that have no reason to lie about attendance. I noticed attendance dropping off last year when I did go to the show. For the first time I can recall, getting a room is no problem at all this year. I left my options open and decided a few days ago it was not worth it for me this year. The lack of deals, bad weather, Superbowl traffic, scams and lack of meteorite social gatherings was enough to keep me away this year. The truth is that most people do not have much disposable income to attend the show in the first place is what the news is reporting. The millennials could care less about collectables these days and don't have any spare funds for non-electronic gadgets. I have a huge stockpile of meteorites and a warehouse full of antiques to prove it. The only hot items selling these days for me are vehicles and artifacts. My wife acquired a large U.S. space program collection which I will start listing items from in the up and coming weeks. My only hope is to break even on it since it was acquired due to an investor failing to pay a note. I wish all the honest dealers well and hope that collectors can find a piece or two to add to their collections. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson pics? I'm confused, how could attendance be lowest in decades? The show starts today. There are no rental cars and very hard to find a place to sleep in the entire city. It is pouring rain and flooding and hotel is full, parking lot completely full and people walking blocks in the rain to get here. My sales at just fine, and yes, there are no wholesale prices and supply is down and prices are up. Adam, Find new people to lie to you about the show because the ones telling you this crap are delusional, or come down for yourself. Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I take the buyer's market comment back. I just read some emails from several collectors and one dealer that vendors are asking full retail and there are very few bargains to be had. It used to be that it was worth the price of traveling there in order to pick up a few good deals. No such thing as wholesale prices until the end of the show when dealers become desperate to move inventory, some of which is left over from several years from past shows. In this case, the law of supply and demand appear to be out of sync. According to the press, there are a bunch of tire kickers who are holding onto their now, very limited, hard-earned cash so we will have to see what happens. I guess the lower cost of gas isn't helping or people are distracted with the Superbowl hosted
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson weather
Yes, in fact supposed to be 80F by the end of the week. Weather will be flawless for the rest of the show. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Larry and Twink Monrad via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The good news is that our usual Tucson sun is out, fog is lifting and the puddles will be drying up. A few clouds are hanging around but will be gone soon. Will be sunny and high seventies (f) for the forseeable future. Twink Monrad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
My point to Adam after reading his usual diatribe of crap that parking can't be too bad if I'm willing to risk parking my car at the show. I'm not sure where someone who isn't here and doesn't plan to come can spend so much time telling others what's going on here when he clearly had no idea. Amazingly plenty of Chinese and Japanese buyers were here, found parking, and even survived the flooding to spend their money. Sad that an American is so afraid of some water and full parking lots to come when they circle the planet to get here. Michael Farmer On Feb 1, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I drove my $1,750.32 Geo Metro (yes, I have the pink slip) to the Hotel City Center, aka the Inn Suites, yesterday after lunch. Parking was indeed full up but I got a good spot in the big parking lot because I gave the guy in the rain slicker half of my sandwich. Poor guy was miserable out there doing traffic control. He put my ride high-and-dry under the power tower and told me he'd keep an eye on it. Can't beat that! I can't say much about supply and demand except I want just about everything I saw:) Only spent an hour - too miserable with all the standing water. When I got back to the parking lot I noticed that the attendant had washed my window! Thanked him and went home. Paul Swartz From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MIKE MILLERS ROOM 207 ( Hotel Tucson City Center)
Hi all, I've been in Tucson for a week now and I have made some great deals. When you come please don't overlook Mike Miller's 2 Rooms Room 207 - Hotel Tucson City Center (Formally known as the Inn Suites) Where you'll see a fantastic selection of meteorites including an end cut of the large Brenham meteorite found on the pilot episode of the Meteorite Men show. and of course see Mike and crew at: The Ramada Room 131 (where he has been for many years) -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show
Well, I rode my $5.00 bicycle, with coon tails hanging from the bars and a clown car horn that I honked all the way from Prescott Valley to Tucson. I especially honk the horn when a **$130,000 Tesla** slows me down. Yours truly, Greg Lindh Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 21:36:20 -0700 To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Attendees at Tucson Show From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Good grief. Why worry about it? You aren't here. I drive a $130,000 tesla, and I got parking and even made it through the mud! I wouldn't subject it to any bad parking conditions. You would think by your post that somehow Tucson has become The Congo. Just play on eBay and leave Tucson to the dealers:) Michael Farmer On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: The reason there were no parking spots left is that the overflow parking in the dirt was muddy from what I was told from a fossil buyer who left early in disgust. Everybody knows that there is no where near enough parking at the Insuites to begin with, even under normal circumstances. There were many spots available Thursday from what I was told, the first time I have heard this during all of the previous shows I have attended. You used to have to circle two or three times to find a spot even with the overflow parking open. I am not there this year so depend on reports from others and what is published in the in the media. In any case, I am glad to stay home this year. I hope those that spent the money to visit the show are rewarded with some good deals. I just have not heard of any at this point. Only 9 meteorite vendors bother to post the Tucson Show information request, the lowest number I have ever seen since it was started. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified NWA Contributed by: Rob Lenssen http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=02/02/2015 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
