[meteorite-list] AD - Esquel slices for sale

2015-05-16 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Greeting List.

I've added some very nice Esquel slices to my web site - take a look!

www.tucsonmeteorites.com

Click the New Entries link in the Meteorite Selector box on the left.

Thanks.

Paul Swartz
IMCA 5204
MPOD Web Master

Art - I think this is my second freebie for the year. If not, I'm sure you will 
rattle my cage :)
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[meteorite-list] AD - Very Interesting Beautiful Unclass. Stone at Ebay

2015-05-16 Thread Carsten Giessler via Meteorite-list

Dear List,

i have a very beautiful and interesting unclass. fresh stone
at Ebay right now. Please take a look!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-NWA--Possible-Achondrite-BEAUTIFUL-FRESH-34-3g-/171787162956?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Many thanks for viewing,

Carsten Giessler
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2015-05-16 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Béréba

Contributed by: Peter Marmet

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=05/16/2015
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Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk TKW

2015-05-16 Thread cbo via Meteorite-list
Dear Bernd!

I thought for the found and collected pieces not for the original object.

So many meteorite has found by the Russian officials, hunters and orhers.

The TKW in the MetBull 1 t. But I think the real TKW its over 1 t by hunters 
and orhers.
We can just estimatate the correct mass.

Zsolt

2015. máj. 16. dátummal, 12:05 időpontban Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com írta:

 Zsolt inquires:
 
 Do you know (or estimate) anybody that what
 can be about the Chelyabinsk real TKW?
 
 Hello Zsolt and List,
 
 Not quite sure what you mean but Brown estimates the *original object*
 had a diameter of about 54 feet (17 m) and a mass of roughly 10,000
 metric tons.
 
 According to the writeup from MB 101:
 
 The total mass collected by local people is certainly  100 kg and perhaps  
 500 kg.
 
 Regards,
 
 Bernd
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk TKW

2015-05-16 Thread Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list
Zsolt inquires:

Do you know (or estimate) anybody that what
 can be about the Chelyabinsk real TKW?

Hello Zsolt and List,

Not quite sure what you mean but Brown estimates the *original object*
had a diameter of about 54 feet (17 m) and a mass of roughly 10,000
metric tons.

According to the writeup from MB 101:

The total mass collected by local people is certainly  100 kg and perhaps  
500 kg.

Regards,

Bernd



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[meteorite-list] Large Hyper-Velocity Impacts and Gamma Rays

2015-05-16 Thread E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
Hola Listeros - 
 

There has been so much horse manure written about the YD impact by various 
experts that I thought I would add my own contribution to the pile.

As far as my qualification to do this go, many manned Mars flight enthusiasts 
will tell you I am an idiot; and they are joined in this opinion by 2012 
fatalists, different psychics, theosophist archaeologists, followers of 
Velikovsky and Cayce; Drs. Morrison and his friends,believers in Nemesis.

I should mention in this regard that I edited a presentation by D. Usikov on 
Gamma Ray bursts, back many years ago when I had a brain. He bears no 
responsibility for the following.

My own little road apple is this: in large hyper-velocity impacts, some photons 
appear to reach gamma ray energy levels, which results in the release of 
neutrons and thus in the formation of 14C and 10Be.

I am not current with the latest charts of 14C production from 50,000 BC on, 
but the intcal98 chart, which is detailed and accurate enough for the 
presentation at hand may be seen on page 13 of Firestone's article here:

http://www.centerfirstamericans.com/mammoth/issues/Volume-16/vol16_num2.pdf

There are several different features in this which attract notice.

First off, one notices several CURVES which Dr. Firestone fitted to the 14C 
production data. These may perhpas represent either gamma ray bursts from 
planets falling into their suns, gamma ray bursts from stars falling into to 
their galactic centers, gamma ray burst from supernova explosions interacting 
with outlying stars, etc. etc. etc. Fascinating material for conjectures...

Then perhaps one notices the separate and distinct SPIKES. The spike between 
50,000 BP and 40,000 BP seems to align with the Meteor Crater impact. No impact 
has been connected with the spike between 40,000 BP and 30,00 BP. Moving on, no 
spikes are found between 30,000 BP and 20,000 BP, and then TWO spikes between 
20,000 BP and 10,000 BP. The second of these has been connected with the YD 
Boundary impact at 10,800 (or so) BCE while the earlier spike has gone 
unexamined.

Taking a look at this chart, we can see that the last ice age lacked a maxima 
of cold:
http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-42%20BP.gif

Let us call this missing minimal temperature the Grondine Minima. The 
discontinuity with earlier glacial cycles begins at about the same time as the 
first spike in neutrons between 20,000-10,000 BP.

One may notice that the first sea level rise occurs well before 10,800 or so 
BCE:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7042/fig_tab/nature03617_F2.html

and here:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v502/n7473/images/nature12609-sf1.jpg

(Tarasov and Peltier's work is usually ignored various self proclaimed YD 
Impact experts. 
And that is one of the reasons why I call these two major impact events the 
Holocene Start Impact Event.)

Where did that first bit of water come from?:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7042/fig_tab/nature03617_F3.html

This is the end of the first part of this note.
Part two will cover the first large impact crater

E.P.


TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

The traditions of the Choctaws concerning the Oka Falama
[the Returned Waters] is as follows: 

FRAGMENT 1

In ancient time, after many generations of mankind had 
lived and passed from the stage of being, the race became 
so corrupt and wicked, brother fighting against brother and 
wars deluging the Earth with human blood and carnage,

The Great Spirit became greatly displeased, and finally determined 
to destroy the human race; therefore He sent a great prophet [the Peoples' 
Mourner] to them
who proclaimed from tribe to tribe, and from village to village, 
the fearful tidings that the human race was soon to be destroyed. 

None believed his words, and lived on in their wickedness;
as if they did not care, and the seasons came again and went. 

Then came the autumn of the year, 
followed by many succeeding cloudy days and nights, 
during which the Sun by day and the Moon and Stars by night
were concealed from the Earth; 

Then succeeded a total darkness, 
and the Sun seemed to have been blotted out, 
while darkness and silence with a cold atmosphere 
took possession of earth. 
Mankind wearied and perplexed, but not repenting or reforming, 
slept in darkness but to awake in darkness. 

Then the mutterings of distant thunder began to be heard, 
gradually becoming incessant, 
until it reverberated in all parts of the sky, 
and seemed to echo back even from the deep center of the Earth. 
Then fear and consternation seized upon every heart 
and all believed the Sun would never return. 

The Magi [Spiritual Guides]of the Choctaws spoke despondently 
in reply to the many interrogations of the alarmed people, 
and sang their death-songs 
which were but faintly heard in the mingled confusion that arose 
amid the gloom of the night that seemed would have no returning morn. 

Mankind went from place to place