Re: [meteorite-list] All impact craters found

2015-07-01 Thread E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
Hi Dirk - 

I don't know bout that particulare hole in the ground.

The report does not mention ocean floor craters, nor impact-tsunami chevrons.

Here's a few more jokes to brighten your day:

Perhaps the story was promoted by Linda Billings, NASA's own very new impact 
specialist.

You may never have heard of her before. 
I certainly haven't.
If anyone here is familiar with her earlier work in impact studies, then please 
let me know
I wouldn't want to not know about them
Perhaps she is our anonymous "leading Chinese physicist".

It could be that NASA management is afraid that if Don Yeomans is allowed to 
talk publicly 
he might bring up that space based neo-detection telescope he requested 10 
years ago.

As it is, it looks to me from the spin being put on the GAO reports,
the G*D D F Mars Nuts want Dr,Morrison to take it over, 
and are trying to set Don up.

It may be that they still have not given up try8ng to get the neo-detection 
effort assigned somewhere else in the Federal government, such as the NSF.

I wonder how they'd feel about Meiser from WISE taking over?

Did you ever hear the one about the ASTOEROID that killed the dinosaurs?
Or the one how that the only major ASTEROID impact in the last century occurred 
in 1908 at Tugunska?

Or the one about how seldom COMETS or COMET FRAGMENTS hit?

Here's a real howler: 
perhaps the human species is so dumb 
that a whole lot more people will die 
before they remember anything.

good hunting, everyone
E.P.






On Wed, 7/1/15, drtanuki  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] All impact craters found
 To: "E.P. Grondine" , 
"meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
 Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 1:06 PM
 
 E.P. Grondine,  LOL! 
 What "hole in the ground" made that statement? 
 Perhaps the writer hasnt noticed the one in his/her
 head?...the yet undiscovered. Thank you for the laugh. 
 Back to Mucks and Omarolluk,
 
 
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo 
 The
 Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News 
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
 
 
 - Original Message
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 From: E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
 
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, July 2,
 2015 1:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
 All impact craters found
 
 Hi
 everyone - 
 
 I read today in
 the news that all of the impact craters have been found.
 
 I suppose that all of your can
 stop hunting now,
 and Paul can spend all of
 his time working on the Kitscoty structure.
 
 good hunting, 
 E.P.
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] NASA's Curiosity Mars Rover Studies Rock-Layer Contact Zone

2015-07-01 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4645

NASA's Curiosity Mars Rover Studies Rock-Layer Contact Zone
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
July 1, 2015

Fast Facts:

o Rover team members have resumed commanding Curiosity after a moratorium 
while the sun was between Earth and Mars.

o Curiosity is examing a zone where two regional rock units neighbor each 
other near "Marias Pass."

o The rover found a sandstone with grains of diverse size, shape and color.


NASA's Curiosity Mars rover is examining a valley where at least two types 
of bedrock meet, for clues about changes in ancient environmental conditions 
recorded by the rock.

In addition to two rock types for which this site was chosen, the rover 
has found a sandstone with grains of differing shapes and color.

Curiosity's international team has resumed full operations of the car-size 
mobile laboratory after a period of limited activity during most of June. 
The operations moratorium for Curiosity and other spacecraft at Mars happens 
about every 26 months, when Mars passes nearly behind the sun from Earth's 
perspective, and the sun interferes with radio communication between the 
two planets.

At the rover's current location near "Marias Pass" on Mount Sharp, Curiosity 
has found a zone where different types of bedrock neighbor each other. 
One is pale mudstone, like bedrock the mission examined previously at 
"Pahump Hills." Another is darker, finely bedded sandstone above the 
Pahrump-like 
mudstone. The rover team calls this sandstone the Stimson unit.

On Mars as on Earth, each layer of a sedimentary rock tells a story about 
the environment in which it was formed and modified. Contacts between 
adjacent layers hold particular interest as sites where changes in 
environmental 
conditions may be studied. Some contacts show smooth transitions; others 
are abrupt.

Curiosity climbed an incline of up to 21 degrees in late May to reach 
Marias Pass, guided by images from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter 
showing Pahrump-like and Stimson outcrops close together.

"This site has exactly what we were looking for, and perhaps something 
extra," said Curiosity Project Scientist Ashwin Vasavada, of NASA's Jet 
Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California. "Right at the contact between 
the Pahrump-like mudstone and the Stimson sandstone, there appears to 
be a thin band of coarser-grained rock that's different from either of 
them."

The in-between material is a sandstone that includes some larger grains, 
of mixed shapes and colors, compared to the overlying dark sandstone.

"The roundedness of some of the grains suggests they traveled long distances, 
but others are angular, perhaps meaning that they came from close by," 
Vasavada said. "Some grains are dark, others much lighter, which indicates 
that their composition varies. The grains are more diverse than in other 
sandstone we've examined with Curiosity."

The science team has identified rock targets for further close-up inspection 
of the textures and composition of the mudstone and sandstone exposed 
near Marias Pass. The team ancipates keeping Curiosity busy at this site 
for several weeks before driving higher on Mount Sharp.

Curiosity has been exploring on Mars since 2012. It reached the base of 
Mount Sharp last year after fruitfully investigating outcrops closer to 
its landing site and then trekking to the mountain. The main mission objective 
now is to examine successively higher layers of Mount Sharp.

JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, 
built the rover and manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate 
in Washington. For more information about Curiosity, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/msl

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/

You can follow the mission on Facebook and Twitter at:

http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity

http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity


Media Contact

Guy Webster
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-354-6278
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 

Dwayne Brown
NASA Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1726
dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov 

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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images: July 1, 2015

2015-07-01 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
July 1, 2015

o Clay-Rich Terrain in Oxia Planum: A Proposed ExoMars Landing Site 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_039154_1985

  This image uses HiRISE to show what the surface looks like and 
  whether it is feasible to land a rover on it.

o Searching for Clinoforms in a Possible Delta  
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_039820_1750

  Evidence for deltas that formed billions of years ago on Mars has 
  been mounting in recent years.

o Pedestal Crater Development   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_039936_1330

  A pedestal occurs when the ejecta from an impact settles around the 
  new crater and is more erosion-resistant than the surrounding terrain.

o A Channel System and Patterned Ground near Hellas Basin   
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_040601_1460

  In this image, we explore the southwestern floor of a 50-kilometer 
  diameter unnamed crater, about 100 kilometers northeast of Hellas Basin. 

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] NASA's New Horizons Spacecraft Stays the Course to Pluto

2015-07-01 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list

July 01, 2015

RELEASE 15-143

NASA's New Horizons Spacecraft Stays the Course to Pluto 

NASA's New Horizons spacecraft is getting a final "all clear" as it 
speeds closer to its historic July 14 flyby of Pluto and the dwarf planet's 
five moons.

After seven weeks of detailed searches for dust clouds, rings, and other 
potential hazards, the New Horizons team has decided the spacecraft will 
remain on its original path through the Pluto system instead of making a late 
course correction to detour around any hazards. Because New Horizons is 
traveling at 30,800 mph (49,600 kph), a particle as small as a grain of rice 
could be lethal.

"We're breathing a collective sigh of relief knowing that the way appears 
to be clear," said Jim Green, director of planetary science at NASA. "The 
science payoff will be richer as we gather data from the optimal flight path, 
as opposed to having to conduct observations from one of the back-up 
trajectories."

Mission scientists have been using the spacecraft's most powerful 
telescopic camera, the Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI), to look for 
potential hazards, such as small moons, rings, or dust, since mid-May. The 
decision on whether to keep the spacecraft on its original course or adopt a 
Safe Haven by Other Trajectory, or "SHBOT" path, had to be made this week 
since the last opportunity to maneuver New Horizons onto an alternate 
trajectory is July 4.

"Not finding new moons or rings present is a bit of a scientific surprise 
to most of us," said principal investigator Alan Stern of the Southwest 
Research Institute (SwRI) in Boulder, Colorado. "But as a result, no engine 
burn is needed to steer clear of potential hazards. We presented these data 
to NASA for review and received approval to proceed on course and plan. We 
are 'go' for the best of our planned Pluto encounter trajectories."

New Horizons formed a hazard analysis team in 2011, after the discovery of 
Pluto's fourth moon, Kerberos, raised concerns the cratering of these moons 
by small debris from the outer area of the solar system known as the Kuiper 
Belt, could spread additional hazardous debris into New Horizons' path. 
Mission engineers re-tested spare spacecraft blanketing and parts back on 
Earth to determine how well they would stand up to particle impacts, and 
scientists modeled the likely formation and locations of rings and debris in 
the Pluto system. By the time New Horizons' cameras were close enough to 
Pluto to start the search last month, the team had already estimated the 
chances of a catastrophic incident at far less than one percent.

The images used in the latest searches that cleared the mission to stay on 
its current course were taken June 22, 23 and 26. Pluto and all five of its 
known moons are visible in the images, but scientists saw no rings, new 
moons, or hazards of any kind. The hazards team determined that satellites as 
faint as about 15 times dimmer than Pluto's faintest known moon, Styx, 
would have been seen if they existed beyond the orbit of Pluto's largest 
and closest moon, Charon.

If any rings do exist, the hazard team determined they must be extremely 
faint, reflecting less than one 5-millionth of the incoming sunlight.

"The suspense - at least most of it - is behind us," says John 
Spencer, of SwRI, who leads the New Horizons hazard analysis team. "As a 
scientist I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't spot additional moons to 
study, but as a New Horizons team member I am much more relieved that we 
didn't find something that could harm the spacecraft. New Horizons already 
has six amazing objects to analyze in this incredible system."

The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland, 
designed, built, and operates the New Horizons spacecraft, and manages the 
mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate. The Southwest Research 
Institute, based in San Antonio, leads the science team, payload operations 
and encounter science planning. New Horizons is part of the New Frontiers 
Program managed by NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, 
Alabama.


For more information on the New Horizons mission, including fact sheets, 
schedules, video and images, visit:


*http://www.nasa.gov/newhorizons*


or


*http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/plutotoolkit.cfm*


Follow the New Horizons mission on Twitter [1] and use the hashtag 
#PlutoFlyby to join the conversation. Live updates will be available on the 
mission Facebook page [2].


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[meteorite-list] Predictions

2015-07-01 Thread Count Deiro via Meteorite-list
Dear Listees,

In reading our comments on the past impacts and the propensity for future 
ones,I cannot ignore the predictions of Nostradamus so beautifully couched in 
uncorrupted medieval French.

Some quatrains that raised my hackles,particularly the timing of FIRE in the 
SKY events.

C.2 Q.46

After great trouble for humanity a greater one is near
The Great Motor renews the ages:
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague,
In the heavens fire seen, a long spark running. (wow)

Apres grat troche humain plus grad s'appreste
Le grand moteur les siecles renouuelle
Pluye sang laict, famine, fer et peste
Au ciel veu feu courant longue estincelle.

The fire in the sky is clearly part of this century and is to be part of our 
current and near-future tribulations. This verse is the epitome of Nostradamus 
interest in the three great mutations and is far more significant than the 
events covered in many of Nostradamus' quatrains.

Nostradamus specific mention of Meteorites & Asteroids.

C.01 Q.46

Very near Auch, Lectoure and Mirande (Predicted postion of constellations 
known to Nostradamus.)
a great fire will fall from the sky for three nights
The cause will appear both stupefying and marvellous
A short time afterwards the earth will tremble.  (Great description of sequence 
of physical phenomenom.)

Tout au pres d'aux de Lestore et Mirande 
Grand feu du ciel entrois nuicts tumbera 
Cause aduiendra bien stupende et mirande 
Bien peu apres la terre tremblera.

Je l'espère, il est faux, (I hope he is in error)

Comte Deiro
IMCA 3536 MetSoc
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[meteorite-list] Giant Sinkholes Spotted on Rosetta Comet

2015-07-01 Thread Paul H. via Meteorite-list
Giant sinkholes spotted on Rosetta's comet
Science Now, Los Angeles Times, July 1, 2015
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-comet-sinkholes-rosetta-20150630-story.html

Rosetta spies cometary sinkholes, BBC News 
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33354872

Rosetta spots sinkholes on comet 67P
The Daily Mail, July 1, 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3146180/Rosetta-spots-SINKHOLES-comet-67P-Giant-abysses-formed-ice-turned-gas-surface-collapsed.html

The paper is:

Vincent, J.-B., and many, many otehrs, 2015, Large 
heterogeneities in comet 67P as revealed by active 
pits from sinkhole collapse. Nature. vol 523, pp. 63–66 
(02 July 2015) doi:10.1038/nature14564
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7558/full/nature14564.html

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Most of Earth’s Impact Craters Await Discovery

2015-07-01 Thread Paul H. via Meteorite-list
Hi,

Below is what Ed is talking about:

340 undiscovered meteorite impact sites on Earth, 
geologists calculate, Science News, June 30, 2015
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150630080204.htm

S. Hergarten, T. Kenkmann. The number of impact 
craters on Earth: Any room for further discoveries? 
Earth and Planetary Science Letters. vol. 425,
 pp. 187-192. DOI: 10.1016/j.epsl.2015.06.009
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X15003659

Most of Earth’s impact craters await discovery. 
Ninety or more cavities wider than 1 kilometer 
remain to be found by Thomas sumner, June 17, 2015
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/most-earth’s-impact-craters-await-discovery

I will have read through and think about it, to 
figure out what I think of it. 

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Giant Meteorite Update

2015-07-01 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list

Dear List Members,

Many are asking how Team LunarRock's June expedition went, especially the 
suspected "giant meteorite."


We tried to get to the "giant meteorite" site but were mired down in several 
feet thick mud and other obstacles.  We got to within a couple of miles of 
it but were chased off by intense lightning storms, flash floods, hail and a 
funnel cloud.   I will post images if anybody is interested once I am able 
to take care of several other pressing issues.


We will make another attempt this September if anybody is interested in 
joining in.  We chose June on this attempt because it was supposed to be the 
driest month of the year.  Unfortunately, no amount of planning can take 
into account bad weather.  There is nothing more disappointing than 
observing massive and pristine "dry" lake beds that are wet.  We did 
successfully make it to three other sites but were mostly unproductive, as 
far as meteorites go, but did recover some rarities and other real treasure 
that made the undertaking worthwhile.  I will provide a field report once I 
am caught up.


I consider this 1,700 mile expedition a success based on both excitement and 
adventure, not to mention the acquisition of some real treasure.


Best Regards,

Adam



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Re: [meteorite-list] All impact craters found

2015-07-01 Thread drtanuki via Meteorite-list
E.P. Grondine,  LOL!  What "hole in the ground" made that statement?  Perhaps 
the writer hasnt noticed the one in his/her head?...the yet undiscovered. Thank 
you for the laugh. 
Back to Mucks and Omarolluk,
 
Dirk Ross...Tokyo 
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From: E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] All impact craters found

Hi everyone - 

I read today in the news that all of the impact craters have been found.

I suppose that all of your can stop hunting now,
and Paul can spend all of his time working on the Kitscoty structure.

good hunting, 
E.P.



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Re: [meteorite-list] All impact craters found

2015-07-01 Thread E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
Hi everyone - 

I read today in the news that all of the impact craters have been found.

I suppose that all of your can stop hunting now,
and Paul can spend all of his time working on the Kitscoty structure.

good hunting, 
E.P.



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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2015-07-01 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified

Contributed by: Aziz Habibi

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=07/01/2015
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