Re: [meteorite-list] Tom Phillips Meteorite Micro Visions Screensaver

2016-01-17 Thread Paul Harris via Meteorite-list

Hi Mike,

Sorry... I checked to see if I had any old backups that contained the 
files but it's been way too long since I created the screensaver and 
don't have the files any longer.


Thanks for the memories!

Paul



On 1/17/2016 12:05 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hi List,

Can someone provide me with a working download link for Tom Phillip's
excellent Windows desktop screensaver?  Every link I can find online
is broken or 404.

I used to have it on my old netbook, but I did not have the file
backed up. It does not appear to be online at Meteorite Times any
longer.

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG




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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2016-01-17 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified

Contributed by: Aziz Habibi

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/18/2016
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[meteorite-list] Tom Phillips Meteorite Micro Visions Screensaver

2016-01-17 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi List,

Can someone provide me with a working download link for Tom Phillip's
excellent Windows desktop screensaver?  Every link I can find online
is broken or 404.

I used to have it on my old netbook, but I did not have the file
backed up. It does not appear to be online at Meteorite Times any
longer.

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG


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[meteorite-list] Lake Eyre meteorite 'Crown property',

2016-01-17 Thread ian macleod via Meteorite-list

Hi Guys, as Mike G said its all good, Mike and I had a chat on facebook.


 When I first started collecting meteorites 5 years or so ago (not that long 
ago compared to many) I was very much pro free market, viva let us own anything 
and how dare the museums take my rock.


I attempted to change the hearts and minds of some here in Australia, maybe I 
didn't change any mind sets rather the image bestowed on me to believe that 
some scientists here were hard-ass (excuse my Ozzie) purists was changed when I 
got to know them. There was reasons for why things are the way they are, and 
they are quite reasonable or had merit.


After a short time I started to see the inconsistencies and lack of data coming 
out of the market side which is a scientific problem. I wont go into detail 
because I think most people are aware of the sellers or practices I alluded to 
previously. Its just the same old practices and issues that pop up from time to 
time. Provenance hand balling is what I call the situation where a seller uses 
the lame excuse they bought it from another trusted seller, so its not their 
fault that the meteorite they are selling isn't what they say it is. This is 
the big issue with small samples. Its easy to join the dots with the stuff that 
goes on with trading.


I agree with Dr Agee that the positives out weight the negatives as he pointed 
out in an article available on the IMCA website. Many traders can be trusted to 
various degrees. Where I think we might differ in opinion is on the degree to 
which this system of private incentive will play a role in the future, namely 
western countries. NWA and some larger falls will benefit from people being 
financially rewarded for finds and then some middle man re-selling after 
classification. Ok lets keep this going till NWA dries up and not much else is 
to be produced. I have no issue with this, it works for now. We have had some 
extremely cool work done like Black Beauty and others.  However I would like to 
see more and more (not all) meteorites avoid the private ownership arena all 
together..ok the dealers are hating me by now


Creston is a example of where things went a bit pair shaped in my mind for 
science


USA had a private network of cameras setup that captured the fireball, a 
private individual and some others extracted that meteorite, the first piece(s) 
was then on sold. Finally it was sold for a ridiculous price. Not illegal or 
immoral..just not ideal



Will the general public ever see this and appreciate it? Stored in a private 
collection can be just as cruel as stored in a dusty museum box


Now in Australia, we do have an likely issue of finds being hidden ( old falls 
and cold finds) due to our state laws. however this material will just add to 
the 50,000 stones we need to know more about. Where these laws are a benefit is 
that when our DFN etc detects a fall, scientists (not private hunters looking 
for profit or cost recovery) will go out grab the stone and bring it back! No 
arguing or deals with farmers, no who owns what.its shared, its pure, its 
for Australia as a whole. Not just for me, some rich collector or a foreign 
collection


We will know where it came from, where it landed, who found it, what it is and 
where it will stay exactly


With much more than just a classification but, rare orbit data - which is 
contributing greatly to mapping our solar system and more!


This is the 21st century meteoritics I hope for, this is what excites me and I 
dream for.


Oh no I cant own a piece?maybe or maybe not.I dont care


We already have so much material floating around to trade and not enough 
customers to buy it. People are so numb to the tonnes of rocks we have, dealers 
have to have the latest lunar just to excite people.


Meteoritcs is more than just owning something or group funding some middle man, 
its the endless pursuit of science and truth and the friends we make along the 
way



We may not agree on everything but I count Carl and Mike as mates


Cheers


Ian




























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[meteorite-list] AD- GREAT deals ending soon on eBay

2016-01-17 Thread Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list

Hello all

Bidding is low today, Tuxtuac usually $9 per gram is at $0.42. Lunar slice 
and individual running with no reserve and I have lowered the price on a 
complete Bruderheim.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/nakhladog/m.html

Rob Wesel

Nakhla Dog Meteorites
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel


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[meteorite-list] The meteorite giveaway drawing winner!

2016-01-17 Thread Edwin Thompson via Meteorite-list


Patrick and I would like to thank everyone who participated in the meteorite 
giveaway drawing.  I have to say that doing this makes me wish I had more 
specimens to give away.  If I ever win the lottery, we will do this a lot more 
often. I created all of the tickets tonight and mixed them in an E.T. 
Meteorites hat. Patrick had the fun of blindly drawing the winning ticket from 
the hat.
And the winner 
is.Twink 
Monrad!

Way to go Twink. We are very happy for you.

We can ship them to you right away or deliver them to you in person next week 
in Tucson. Your wish is our command.


Sincerest regards to everyone who joined in the fun.

Edwin and Patrick (Patrick will be flying to Tucson for a long weekend during 
the middle of the show)
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[meteorite-list] Lake Eyre meteorite 'Crown property',

2016-01-17 Thread ian macleod via Meteorite-list
Hi Guys, as Mike G said its all good, Mike and I had a chat on facebook.


 When I first started collecting meteorites 5 years or so ago (not that long 
ago compared to many) I was very much pro free market, viva let us own anything 
and how dare the museums take my rock.


I attempted to change the hearts and minds of some here in Australia, maybe I 
didn't change any mind sets rather the image bestowed on me to believe that 
some scientists here were hard-ass (excuse my Ozzie) purists was changed when I 
got to know them. There was reasons for why things are the way they are, and 
they are quite reasonable or had merit.


After a short time I started to see the inconsistencies and lack of data coming 
out of the market side which is a scientific problem. I wont go into detail 
because I think most people are aware of the sellers or practices I alluded to 
previously. Its just the same old practices and issues that pop up from time to 
time. Provenance hand balling is what I call the situation where a seller uses 
the lame excuse they bought it from another trusted seller, so its not their 
fault that the meteorite they are selling isn't what they say it is. This is 
the big issue with small samples. Its easy to join the dots with the stuff that 
goes on with trading.


I agree with Dr Agee that the positives out weight the negatives as he pointed 
out in an article available on the IMCA website. Many traders can be trusted to 
various degrees. Where I think we might differ in opinion is on the degree to 
which this system of private incentive will play a role in the future, namely 
western countries. NWA and some larger falls will benefit from people being 
financially rewarded for finds and then some middle man re-selling after 
classification. Ok lets keep this going till NWA dries up and not much else is 
to be produced. I have no issue with this, it works for now. We have had some 
extremely cool work done like Black Beauty and others.  However I would like to 
see more and more (not all) meteorites avoid the private ownership arena all 
together..ok the dealers are hating me by now 


Creston is a example of where things went a bit pair shaped in my mind for 
science


USA had a private network of cameras setup that captured the fireball, a 
private individual and some others extracted that meteorite, the first piece(s) 
was then on sold. Finally it was sold for a ridiculous price. Not illegal or 
immoral..just not ideal



Will the general public ever see this and appreciate it? Stored in a private 
collection can be just as cruel as stored in a dusty museum box


Now in Australia, we do have an likely issue of finds being hidden ( old falls 
and cold finds) due to our state laws. however this material will just add to 
the 50,000 stones we need to know more about. Where these laws are a benefit is 
that when our DFN etc detects a fall, scientists (not private hunters looking 
for profit or cost recovery) will go out grab the stone and bring it back! No 
arguing or deals with farmers, no who owns what.its shared, its pure, its 
for Australia as a whole. Not just for me, some rich collector or a foreign 
collection


We will know where it came from, where it landed, who found it, what it is and 
where it will stay exactly


With much more than just a classification but, rare orbit data - which is 
contributing greatly to mapping our solar system and more!


This is the 21st century meteoritics I hope for, this is what excites me and I 
dream for. 


Oh no I cant own a piece?maybe or maybe not.I dont care


We already have so much material floating around to trade and not enough 
customers to buy it. People are so numb to the tonnes of rocks we have, dealers 
have to have the latest lunar just to excite people.


Meteoritcs is more than just owning something or group funding some middle man, 
its the endless pursuit of science and truth and the friends we make along the 
way



We may not agree on everything but I count Carl and Mike as mates


Cheers


Ian




























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