[meteorite-list] Trying to Stay on Subject.

2016-06-20 Thread Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
In case anyone had any doubts about how much of a horses' ass I might be

http://www.greatbritishracing.com/news-and-features/latest-news/count-guido-deiro-outstays-his-rivals/#IVhBj6LkfXJaJVTY.97

Bevis Stable and I have a six month old foal that the Countess has named 
"Meteor"


Cheers,


Count Guido Deiro
INCA 3536

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[meteorite-list] ;W

2016-06-20 Thread Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list 


Sent from my iPhone
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[meteorite-list] Late Pleistocene Patagonian Megafaunal Extinctions

2016-06-20 Thread Paul via Meteorite-list 

Megafauna mystery: What killed off the mastodons,
mammoths, and giant sloths? An Ice Age whodunit:
Scientists are gathering clues about what caused a
die off in giant prehistoric critters.
By  Eva Botkin-Kowacki, June 17, 2016
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/0617/Megafauna-mystery-What-killed-off-the-mastodons-mammoths-and-giant-sloths

Rising temperatures and humans were a deadly
combo for ancient South American megafauna
by Lizzie Wade, Science Magazine, June 17, 2016
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/06/rising-temperatures-and-humans-were-deadly-combo-ancient-south-american-megafauna

The paper is:

Metcalf, J. L., C. Turney, and many others, 2016,
Synergistic roles of climate warming and human
occupation in Patagonian megafaunal extinctions
during the Last Deglaciation. Science Advances
17 Jun 2016: Vol. 2, no. 6, e1501682
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/6/e1501682
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/2/6/e1501682.full.pdf

Another paper is:

Barnosky, A. D., P.L. Koch, R. S. Feranec, S. L. Wing,
and A. B. Shabel. 2004. Assessing the Causes of Late
Pleistocene Extinctions on the Continents.
Science. V. 306, pp. 70-75. https://goo.gl/kIEEnV

More papers at http://ib.berkeley.edu/labs/barnosky/publications.html

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread MEM via Meteorite-list 


Hey!!! i resemble that remark!
Elton




From: Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
To: John Lutzon ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black


No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List 
gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self important, supercilious 
gas bags. 

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

You have stated what many Listees agree with. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2016

2016-06-20 Thread Bob Falls via Meteorite-list 
Hi John,

Agree there has not been much (if any) news on the show this year on the
list; likely on Facebook however have not looked there...
Hopefully we will hear some news on the list and some links to photos so
those of us who could not attend can see what all was there and the good
times had by those in attendance!

Best Regards,
Bob

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
Behalf Of John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 4:46 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2016

List,

Is there any early breaking news on this year's show?

I hope many folks follow Martin Goff's great effort (last year) in putting
together a wonderful pictorial with commentary of the show and events.

While waiting for a compilation of pics and talk-- any tidbits as it was
happening would be appreciated.

Ensisheim deprived John

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread bill kies via Meteorite-list 
And so the "Count" of "self-righteous, self centered, self in*portant, 
supercill*ious gas bags" has spoken. Amen and thanks so much for all your 
wisdom.






From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:41 PM
To: John Lutzon; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
    
No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List 
gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self inportant, supercillious 
gas bags.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536    

You have stated what many Listees agree with. 

-Original Message-
>From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>List,
>My apologies first
>
>What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
>--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
>
>This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
>this List.
>
>Move On..
>
>John
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>Mondegreens
>
>Here is a perfect example:
>
>http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml



Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush - amIright
www.amiright.com
Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush. Misheard lyrics (also known as 
mondegreens) are instances of when a song lyric can't be understood, and the 
mind ...
>
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
>To: Dark Matter
>Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
>names!
>With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
>ease
>some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>
>Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...
>
>
>
>Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
>On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Captain Blood wrote:
>>
>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>
>> =
>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
>> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of
>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older 
>> proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might
>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
>> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>>
>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>>
>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
>> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game
>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
>> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to
>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
>> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and
>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring 
>> suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and
>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
>> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year
>> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer 
>> can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be
>> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
>> arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with
>> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a 
>> living example of how it ha
> pp
>>  ens.
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
>> To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
>> ; Meteorite List
>> 
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Teaching

[meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2016

2016-06-20 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
List,

Is there any early breaking news on this year's show?

I hope many folks follow Martin Goff's great effort
(last year) in putting together a wonderful pictorial
with commentary of the show and events.

While waiting for a compilation of pics and talk--
any tidbits as it was happening would be appreciated.

Ensisheim deprived John

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List 
gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self inportant, supercillious 
gas bags. 

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

You have stated what many Listees agree with. 

-Original Message-
>From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>List,
>My apologies first
>
>What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
>--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
>
>This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
>this List.
>
>Move On..
>
>John
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>Mondegreens
>
>Here is a perfect example:
>
>http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml
>
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
>To: Dark Matter
>Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
>names!
>With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
>ease
>some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>
>Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...
>
>
>
>Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
>On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Captain Blood wrote:
>>
>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>
>> =
>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
>> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of 
>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older 
>> proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might 
>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
>> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>>
>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>>
>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
>> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game 
>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
>> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to 
>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
>> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and 
>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring 
>> suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and 
>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
>> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year 
>> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer 
>> can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be 
>> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
>> arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with 
>> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a 
>> living example of how it ha
> pp
>>  ens.
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
>> To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
>> ; Meteorite List 
>> 
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>> Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
I completely agree and I 'Greg Hupe' have not posted to this thread that has 
nothing to do with meteorites.

I make comment here since someone earlier today mentioned 'Hupe brothers' and 
asked which is which... I do not post about discolored kettles and whatnot.

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:47 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> List,
> My apologies first
> 
> What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
> --or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
> 
> This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
> this List.
> 
> Move On..
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
> 
> 
> Mondegreens
> 
> Here is a perfect example:
> 
> http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
> To: Dark Matter
> Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
> 
> 
> I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
> names!
> With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
> ease
> some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> Captain Blood wrote:
>> 
>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>> 
>> =
>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
>> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of 
>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older 
>> proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might 
>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
>> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>> 
>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>> 
>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
>> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game 
>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
>> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to 
>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
>> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and 
>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring 
>> suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and 
>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
>> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year 
>> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer 
>> can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be 
>> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
>> arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with 
>> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a 
>> living example of how it ha
> pp
>> ens.
>> 
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
>> To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
>> ; Meteorite List 
>> 
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>>The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>Michael Blood
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>> 
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 

Here is another effect that applies the most recent attack:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect


Adam  Hupe





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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
List,
My apologies first

What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !

This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
this List.

Move On..

John



- Original Message - 
From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black


Mondegreens

Here is a perfect example:

http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml





- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
To: Dark Matter
Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black


I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
names!
With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might ease
some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Looks like we got the band back together on this one.


Cheers,


Martin




On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...



Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:

> Captain Blood wrote:
>
> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> The original phrase in this instance is
> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>
> =
> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of 
> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older 
> proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might 
> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>
> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>
> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game 
> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to 
> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and 
> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring suggests 
> that the accused reserves the right to be pure and 
> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year 
> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer 
> can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be 
> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
> arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with 
> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a 
> living example of how it ha
 pp
>  ens.
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
> To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
> ; Meteorite List 
> 
> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
> Hi all,
> Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> The original phrase in this instance is
> "Pot calling the kettle black."
> Michael Blood
>
>
> On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" 
> wrote:
>
> > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
Mondegreens

Here is a perfect example:

http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml





  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list 
  To: Dark Matter 
  Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea 
  Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black


  I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
names!
  With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
ease
  some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Looks like we got the band back together on this one. 


Cheers,


Martin




On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

  This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...



  Sent using the mail.com mail app

  On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:

  > Captain Blood wrote:
  >
  > "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
  > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
  > The original phrase in this instance is
  > "Pot calling the kettle black."
  >
  > =
  > You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context 
is not at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of Adam's original 
aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older proverbs capturing 
his thought, I think he might have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the 
middle ages, hundreds of years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
  >
  > "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
  > are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
  >
  > The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game to use as he did, 
since there is no authority on such idioms and the interpretation is supported, 
whether it sounds good to everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the 
origin of the pot/kettle proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and 
the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring suggests 
that the accused reserves the right to be pure and without fault, a different 
concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a late-comer, and already a poor 
corruption of a 3000 year old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is 
why I feel the writer can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be 
beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with a less common modern 
variant. English is always evolving, and this is a living example of how it ha
   pp
  >  ens.
  >
  > Kindest wishes
  > Doug
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 

  > To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
; Meteorite List 

  > Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
  > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
  >
  > Hi all,
  > Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
  > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
  > The original phrase in this instance is
  > "Pot calling the kettle black."
  > Michael Blood
  >
  >
  > On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" 

  > wrote:
  >
  > > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
  >
  >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 

Mondegreens

Here is a perfect example:

http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml

Sorry if this posts twice.

Adam



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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

2016-06-20 Thread Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list 
I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
names!
With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might ease
some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
>
 wrote:

Looks like we got the band back together on this one.

Cheers,

Martin



On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>
 wrote:
This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...



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On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:

> Captain Blood wrote:
>
> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> The original phrase in this instance is
> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>
> =
> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of Adam's original aphorism or 
> proverb he intended. Though there are even older proverbs capturing his 
> thought, I think he might have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the 
> middle ages, hundreds of years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>
> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>
> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game to use as he 
> did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the interpretation is 
> supported, whether it sounds good to everyone's ear or only to some. I have 
> traced the origin of the pot/kettle proverb undisputedly to the ancient 
> Greek, "Snake and the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the 
> reflection/coloring suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure 
> and without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year old proverb that 
> diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer can appropriate it 
> as they feel convenient and not be beholden to any higher authority on its 
> use due to the selection of an arbitrary point in time, and Adam has 
> referenced his with a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, 
> and this is a living example of how it ha
 pp
>  ens.
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
> >
> To: Paul Gessler >; Met. Adam Hupe 
> >; Meteorite List 
> >
> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
> Hi all,
> Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> The original phrase in this instance is
> "Pot calling the kettle black."
> Michael Blood
>
>
> On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" 
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2016-06-20 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list 
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Bassikounou

Contributed by: Paul Swartz

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=06/20/2016
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