Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy
Hi Doug, Thanks for the kind words. However, I have saved all The emails and believe me, there was absolutely no confusion Re shipping - -clarified clearly (twice) that if Fed EX were less than $50 I would refund him the difference and if it were more than $50 he would have to agree to paypal me the difference. He stated I should not have put the "real value" on the shipment - AFTER I had sent it - When Fed Ex turned out to be more, then He complained he would have to pay the import fee and wouldn't Pay any more for the shipping. Kind and gentle is always best and I tried that for several Posts to no avail whatever. No, this is a clear cut case of being ripped off. I suspect it is Our old "friend" as his approach is nearly identical and his English Is similarly distorted. But whether it is or not the results are identical. I, too, like to think people are basically honest and live up to Their commitments and I do deal with people that way and the vast Majority of people in the meteorite community are that way. Also, I do not believe for a second this is "typical of Italians" - only two - and possibly only one - have/has acted this way. Every Country has both the saintly and the cur. Good to hear from you, Doug, Michael On 7/23/16 10:32 PM, "MexicoDoug" wrote: > Michael, > > How discouraging, as if doing what you love wasn't already a labor of love. > Your customer appears to be a dedicated collector, exhibitor, lecturer, and > dealer (involved with meteorites and as using them as raw materials for > selling trinkets and watch dials, including to school children). You could > double-check if it is not a miscommunication from your message exchange > defining who was supposed to pay for what. The immediate problem was not > Italy, as much as the expensive, secure shipping cost which you understood was > to be paid by him as it sounds like he received the meteorite and you have a > tracking receipt. > > Or, next time you are in Rimini, stop by this hair salon and go collect if the > friendly approach doesn't pan out. Maybe settle for a seafood risotto. I'd > make an appointment first and bring a bottle of wine @ (+39)3485447938. He > really doesn't seem like a scammer! > > Kindest wishes > Doug > > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list > To: Michael Blood ; Meteorite Mailing List > > Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2016 9:37 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy > > Why do people ignore warnings? Italy is notorious for > scams and stolen packages. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >>You all may recall that several years ago multiple >> Dealers warned against sales to Italy. It seams at >> Least one buyer was claiming not to have received >> Shipments that were verified, not to have received >> Money that was sent him, etc. >> >>Unfortunately, I failed to head warnings about >> Shipping to Italy. A different Italian contacted me (Or >> At least one using a different name and email) and >> I explained even Registered Mail seems to fail to >> guarantee delivery in Italy but I somehow allowed >> him to talk me into a Fed Ex shipment of a specimen. >> I agreed, providing he send $50 shipping and agree >> to pay any additional amount Fed Ex might charge. >> >> Perhaps it is the same fellow from several years ago >> Using a different name (he was so good at that Art could >> Not keep him off the list because he would just join again >> Using a different name and email). So, beware of: >> >> "Davide Urbinati" >> >> >>Even though I scanned the receipt and sent it to him >> He refused to pay the $59.79 Fed Ex charged me. So, I am >> Out that $. >> >>Believe me, I will never ship to Italy again. >> >>Better luck to all of you, >>Michael Blood >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy
Michael, How discouraging, as if doing what you love wasn't already a labor of love. Your customer appears to be a dedicated collector, exhibitor, lecturer, and dealer (involved with meteorites and as using them as raw materials for selling trinkets and watch dials, including to school children). You could double-check if it is not a miscommunication from your message exchange defining who was supposed to pay for what. The immediate problem was not Italy, as much as the expensive, secure shipping cost which you understood was to be paid by him as it sounds like he received the meteorite and you have a tracking receipt. Or, next time you are in Rimini, stop by this hair salon and go collect if the friendly approach doesn't pan out. Maybe settle for a seafood risotto. I'd make an appointment first and bring a bottle of wine @ (+39)3485447938. He really doesn't seem like a scammer! Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list To: Michael Blood ; Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2016 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy Why do people ignore warnings? Italy is notorious for scams and stolen packages. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Hi all, > >You all may recall that several years ago multiple > Dealers warned against sales to Italy. It seams at > Least one buyer was claiming not to have received > Shipments that were verified, not to have received > Money that was sent him, etc. > >Unfortunately, I failed to head warnings about > Shipping to Italy. A different Italian contacted me (Or > At least one using a different name and email) and > I explained even Registered Mail seems to fail to > guarantee delivery in Italy but I somehow allowed > him to talk me into a Fed Ex shipment of a specimen. > I agreed, providing he send $50 shipping and agree > to pay any additional amount Fed Ex might charge. > > Perhaps it is the same fellow from several years ago > Using a different name (he was so good at that Art could > Not keep him off the list because he would just join again > Using a different name and email). So, beware of: > > "Davide Urbinati" > > >Even though I scanned the receipt and sent it to him > He refused to pay the $59.79 Fed Ex charged me. So, I am > Out that $. > >Believe me, I will never ship to Italy again. > >Better luck to all of you, >Michael Blood > > > > > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fossil meteorites question
Does anyone here know if the fossil meteorites found in Sweden (or elsewhere?) are still attracted to magnets or have they been completely converted to iron sulfides? Any of the scientists from Sweden know? Thanks Paul Gessler __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy
Why do people ignore warnings? Italy is notorious for scams and stolen packages. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Hi all, > >You all may recall that several years ago multiple > Dealers warned against sales to Italy. It seams at > Least one buyer was claiming not to have received > Shipments that were verified, not to have received > Money that was sent him, etc. > >Unfortunately, I failed to head warnings about > Shipping to Italy. A different Italian contacted me (Or > At least one using a different name and email) and > I explained even Registered Mail seems to fail to > guarantee delivery in Italy but I somehow allowed > him to talk me into a Fed Ex shipment of a specimen. > I agreed, providing he send $50 shipping and agree > to pay any additional amount Fed Ex might charge. > >Perhaps it is the same fellow from several years ago > Using a different name (he was so good at that Art could > Not keep him off the list because he would just join again > Using a different name and email). So, beware of: > > "Davide Urbinati" > > >Even though I scanned the receipt and sent it to him > He refused to pay the $59.79 Fed Ex charged me. So, I am > Out that $. > >Believe me, I will never ship to Italy again. > >Better luck to all of you, >Michael Blood > > > > > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy
Hi all, You all may recall that several years ago multiple Dealers warned against sales to Italy. It seams at Least one buyer was claiming not to have received Shipments that were verified, not to have received Money that was sent him, etc. Unfortunately, I failed to head warnings about Shipping to Italy. A different Italian contacted me (Or At least one using a different name and email) and I explained even Registered Mail seems to fail to guarantee delivery in Italy but I somehow allowed him to talk me into a Fed Ex shipment of a specimen. I agreed, providing he send $50 shipping and agree to pay any additional amount Fed Ex might charge. Perhaps it is the same fellow from several years ago Using a different name (he was so good at that Art could Not keep him off the list because he would just join again Using a different name and email). So, beware of: "Davide Urbinati" Even though I scanned the receipt and sent it to him He refused to pay the $59.79 Fed Ex charged me. So, I am Out that $. Believe me, I will never ship to Italy again. Better luck to all of you, Michael Blood __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Esquel Contributed by: Wendy Swartz http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=07/23/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list