Re: [meteorite-list] Skull carved out of iron meteorite

[Daniel Fronefield via Meteorite-list]

I totally agree with those who see no difference in this sculpture and the
cutting/slicing of any other meteorite for broader dissemination. Why the
double standard?  It's Gibeon also which has been available in large
quantities, so there is no scientific loss.  I personally add meteorites of
all classes to the high end custom knives I build as well as forging the
iron into my blade materials.  And, I do think of these knives as 'Art'.
Guess what ... my buyers are excited about owning meteorites; they
frequently have gone on to buy other meteorite specimens; they pass that
fascination of meteorites on to others.  Is that not the exact reason why
meteorites are cut and prepared for resale ... to pass on to others the
excitement/fascination of owning meteorites?

Regards,
Dan Fronefield

Meteor Forge
http://Meteorforge.net
"Specializing in meteorites and other exotic materials"


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[meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Best regards List,

This thread teeters on several ideals.

The purest meteoritic may want to see Every
meteorite given to a museum or scientist to do the
same. I Agree. [Study and Preserve]

Finders, hunters, camel jockeys, girls in wheelchairs,
anyone who is lucky enough to make a Find--Kudos to you.
You will do what you wish with found meteorites.

Finders love what they're doing, dealers love it even more
and collectors love what they have (as I do).

But when someone tells me that They can "transform" a
4 Billion year old object into something that is now saleable
and if anyone disagrees with the shape or presentation it is
objectionable. I Disagree

To me it is clear- if you're going to whore it out- don't complain
if someone presents a meteorite it in a different way.

I think that Skull is an Eternal piece of art.
Hopfully it will find its way into a museum.

John Lutzon   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Anne,
Quoted
" I accept that meteorites have to be cut to study the matrix, and re-cut so 
more experts can study it, and cut even smaller in 
thin-sections to be studied some more. And I accept that pieces go to 
collectors for safe keeping and preservation."

Okay I agree, so for study , safe keeping and preservation---why is everyone 
cutting them up and selling them as a profit maker?
Oh, and you have to cut it our way
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Black" 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite


John,
I accept that meteorites have to be cut to study the matrix, and re-cut so more 
experts can study it, and cut even smaller in 
thin-sections to be studied some more. And I accept that pieces go to 
collectors for safe keeping and preservation. But I don’t 
like meteorites being sliced and diced and minced into tiny crumbs that are not 
even recognizable.
As for spheres, skulls, rings, ……and over knick-knacks, No. It is adding insult 
to injury.

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2018 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

What does this mean?-- "personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized 
Gibeon individual in as found condition. Together with 
an etched endcut"So it is okay to have an individual of a meteorite and Slice 
into it for Your etched endcut. Think about it, ya'll 
are agreeing to to Cut it Your way--but noother. Still confused?- 
Original Message - From: Mattias Bärmann via 
Meteorite-listTo: Deborah Anne Martin ; Meteorite-listSent: Thursday, September 
13, 2018 5:43 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull 
Carved Out of an Iron MeteoriteLadies and Gentlemen,well, this is of course not 
a work of art. Amazing craftmanship - yes (if it's 
not a product of a 3 D printer, of course ^^)One might call this object 
obsessive, even idiotic. Nevertheless, the shape of the 
skull is a perfect sculpture of itself, and I don't hesitate finding it 
fascinating to follow the Widmanstaetten patterns and their 
transformations through the utmost complexe sculptural landscape of volumes, 
depressions ...I agree, the imagination of the wasted 
material makes depressive.Conclusion? I personally would prefer a good 
sculpted, well sized Gibeon individual in as found 
condition. Together with an etched endcut. (Would absolutely do to keep the pic 
in a virtual poison chest for 
contemplation.)RegardsMatthiasAm 13.09.2018 um 22:55 schrieb Deborah Anne 
Martin via Meteorite-list:So do 
I.AndreFrom: Meteorite-list 
[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Anne 
Black via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com]Sent: September 
12, 2018 4:18 PMTo: progetto.androm...@gmail.com; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
meteorite-list-request@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull 
Carved Out of 
an Iron MeteoriteI agree 1000%.Thank youAnne 
blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com-Original Message-From: PAOLO CONTE 
via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list 
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meteorite-list-request Sent: Wed, 
Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pmSubject: [meteorite-list] Skull 
Carved Out of an Iron MeteoriteAbout:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/Only 
a mentally 
ill can do such a thing.Paolo ConteIMCA #6037Met. Soc. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

John,
I accept that meteorites have to be cut to study the matrix, and re-cut so more 
experts can study it, and cut even smaller in thin-sections to be studied some 
more. And I accept that pieces go to collectors for safe keeping and 
preservation. But I don’t like meteorites being sliced and diced and minced 
into tiny crumbs that are not even recognizable.
As for spheres, skulls, rings, ……and over knick-knacks, No. It is adding insult 
to injury.   

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2018 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

What does this mean?-- "personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized 
Gibeon individual in as found condition. Together with an etched endcut"So it 
is okay to have an individual of a meteorite and Slice into it for Your etched 
endcut. Think about it, ya'll are agreeing to to Cut it Your way--but noother. 
Still confused?- Original Message - From: Mattias Bärmann via 
Meteorite-listTo: Deborah Anne Martin ; Meteorite-listSent: Thursday, September 
13, 2018 5:43 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron 
MeteoriteLadies and Gentlemen,well, this is of course not a work of art. 
Amazing craftmanship - yes (if it's not a product of a 3 D printer, of course 
^^)One might call this object obsessive, even idiotic. Nevertheless, the shape 
of the skull is a perfect sculpture of itself, and I don't hesitate finding it 
fascinating to follow the Widmanstaetten patterns and their transformations 
through the utmost complexe sculptural landscape of volumes, depressions ...I 
agree, the imagination of the wasted material makes depressive.Conclusion? I 
personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized Gibeon individual in as 
found condition. Together with an etched endcut. (Would absolutely do to keep 
the pic in a virtual poison chest for contemplation.)RegardsMatthiasAm 
13.09.2018 um 22:55 schrieb Deborah Anne Martin via Meteorite-list:So do 
I.AndreFrom: Meteorite-list 
[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Anne Black via 
Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com]Sent: September 12, 2018 
4:18 PMTo: progetto.androm...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
meteorite-list-request@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull 
Carved Out of an Iron MeteoriteI agree 1000%.Thank youAnne 
blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com-Original Message-From: PAOLO CONTE 
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pmSubject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron MeteoriteAbout:  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

What does this mean?-- "personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized 
Gibeon individual in as found condition. Together with 
an etched endcut"
So it is okay to have an individual of a meteorite and Slice into it for Your 
etched endcut. Think about it, ya'll are agreeing to 
to Cut it Your way--but no
other. Still confused?

- Original Message - 
From: Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list
To: Deborah Anne Martin ; Meteorite-list
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite




Ladies and Gentlemen,
well, this is of course not a work of art. Amazing craftmanship - yes (if it's 
not a product of a 3 D printer, of course ^^)
One might call this object obsessive, even idiotic. Nevertheless, the shape of 
the skull is a perfect sculpture of itself, and I 
don't hesitate finding it fascinating to follow the Widmanstaetten patterns and 
their transformations through the utmost complexe 
sculptural landscape of volumes, depressions ...
I agree, the imagination of the wasted material makes depressive.

Conclusion? I personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized Gibeon 
individual in as found condition. Together with an etched 
endcut. (Would absolutely do to keep the pic in a virtual poison chest for 
contemplation.)
Regards
Matthias





Am 13.09.2018 um 22:55 schrieb Deborah Anne Martin via Meteorite-list:

So do I.

Andre

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[meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com]
Sent: September 12, 2018 4:18 PM
To: progetto.androm...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

I agree 1000%.
Thank you

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/

Only a mentally ill can do such a thing.

Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262


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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally
acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite
they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them
at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it
into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly.

Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds
if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens
are long gone.

Love ya Anne, John



  - Original Message - 
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  To: progetto.androm...@gmail.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; 
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite


  I agree 1000%.
  Thank you

  Anne Black
  IMPACTIKA.com
  impact...@aol.com



  -Original Message-
  From: PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list 
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meteorite-list-request 
  Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite


  About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/ 


  Only a mentally ill can do such a thing. 



  Paolo Conte
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

.
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Lutzon 
  To: Anne Black ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite



  I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally
  acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite
  they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them
  at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it
  into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly.

  Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds
  if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens
  are long gone.

  Love ya Anne, John



- Original Message - 
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To: progetto.androm...@gmail.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; 
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite


I agree 1000%.
Thank you

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite


About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/ 


Only a mentally ill can do such a thing. 



Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262




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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

well, this is of course not a work of art. Amazing craftmanship - yes 
(if it's not a product of a 3 D printer, of course ^^)


One might call this object obsessive, even idiotic. Nevertheless, the 
shape of the skull is a perfect sculpture of itself, and I don't 
hesitate finding it fascinating to follow the Widmanstaetten patterns 
and their transformations through the utmost complexe sculptural 
landscape of volumes, depressions ...


I agree, the imagination of the wasted material makes depressive.

Conclusion? I personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized Gibeon 
individual in as found condition. Together with an etched endcut. (Would 
absolutely do to keep the pic in a virtual poison chest for contemplation.)


Regards

Matthias



Am 13.09.2018 um 22:55 schrieb Deborah Anne Martin via Meteorite-list:

So do I.

Andre

From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of 
Anne Black via Meteorite-list [meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com]
Sent: September 12, 2018 4:18 PM
To: progetto.androm...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

I agree 1000%.
Thank you

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/

Only a mentally ill can do such a thing.

Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262


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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Maybe this 3rd post will get posted.?

I really need Someone to explain to me why it is totally
acceptable for someone to cut/slice and/or bathe in acid every meteorite
they can get their hands on (some very rare) and then sell them
at a considerable profit and possibly make a living---but to shape it
into Any other shape is a shame. I hope I spelled Hypocrisy correctly.

Hopefully this skull will wind up in a museum and be preserved for hundreds
if not thousands of years---long after the average collector's specimens
are long gone.

Love ya Anne, John
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[Deborah Anne Martin via Meteorite-list]

So do I.

Andre

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

I agree 1000%.
Thank you

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/

Only a mentally ill can do such a thing.

Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262


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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[José Antonio Sánchez via Meteorite-list]

To Paul Gessler

Exactly Paul: is the double standard of many criticizing the nude of a
piece of iron and then do not hesitate to sell crumbs of historical
meteorites with an incalculable value

Sans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

I agree 1000%.
Thank you
 

Anne Black
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impact...@aol.com


 
 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite




About: 
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/


Only a mentally ill can do such a thing. 



Paolo Conte
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If anyone has extra Meteorite! Magazine issues, I'm looking for: 17/318/1-219/1
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list]

I do. The mistake is to have wasted a piece of a precious meteorite to do
something horrible like a skull.
But then certainly one does what he wants: even pathological things.
Paolo

2018-09-12 21:32 GMT+02:00 robert :

> I see nothing wrong with this. It’s art
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:29 PM, PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
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> *About:*  https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-
> Iron-Meteorite/
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> *Only a mentally ill can do such a thing. *
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> Paolo Conte
> IMCA #6037
> Met. Soc. #6262
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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

[robert via Meteorite-list]

I see nothing wrong with this. It’s art

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:29 PM, PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list 
mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
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About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/

Only a mentally ill can do such a thing.

Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262


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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Leedey

Contributed by: Twink Monrad

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