[meteorite-list] AD: Indochinites for sale and some of Beyer Coll.

[drtanuki via Meteorite-list]

Dear List,
  First I am offering Indochinites from known location @ $50/kg minimum order 
at his price is 5kg-10kgs (plus postage/shipping).  Smaller orders the price 
will be higher. Grades and sizes can be sorted if you want specimens for kits 
or for handing out. Smaller pieces are $70/kg (plus postage) as it takes time 
to sort and there are several hundred in a kilo.
  From the Beyer Collection I have several specimens from many his rarer 
locations and will be a while until I get to them. First come, first served.
Have a Wonderful day; stay well and stay safe. Blessings.
Thank You.
Sincerely, Dirk RossTokyo 
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[meteorite-list] Huge Puerto Rico radio telescope, already damaged, collapses

[Paul via Meteorite-list]

Huge Puerto Rico radio telescope, already damaged, collapses
By Danica Coto, Associated Press, December 1, 2020
https://apnews.com/article/technology-arecibo-observatory-puerto-rico-science--0da6abb251f455977bf0c752348e712e

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list]

Seems to me that one possible explanation has been danced around: that the 
collection owner might have died (perhaps unexpectedly), and the 
spouse/family/estate knew little about meteorites. If so, it would illustrate 
the importance of having a living will with clear instructions for “exotic” 
items about which family members may be completely unknowledgeable.  --Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 11:12 AM
To: bill kies 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn 
shop?

TKW reported in the MetBull is often inaccurate, as addition masses found after 
the classification are seldom reflected in the MetBul.

-Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

TKW reported in the MetBull is often inaccurate, as addition masses found
after the classification are seldom reflected in the MetBul.

-Michael in so. Cal.


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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:42 AM bill kies via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> After over 40 years in the resale business I can think of quite a few
> scenarios that might lead to a sale like this. Theft is a possibility that
> should always be looked at but in this case seems unlikely. There are
> certainly people out there worthy of Darwin Awards that would try to sell
> stolen merchandise this unique on ebay. Many other more likely
> possibilities though.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

After over 40 years in the resale business I can think of quite a few scenarios 
that might lead to a sale like this. Theft is a possibility that should always 
be looked at but in this case seems unlikely. There are certainly people out 
there worthy of Darwin Awards that would try to sell stolen merchandise this 
unique on ebay. Many other more likely possibilities though.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[Don Merchant via Meteorite-list]

Its funny bringing this up. "Low ball" most likely. Not easy selling an 
entire collection since the world of collecting meteorites is tiny 
percentage compared to other type hobbies. I know when I sold my collection 
I  Thoroughly and meticulously spent 4 months going through many Dealer 
sites to get an idea what prices were fair for my collection piece by piece 
and what I truly spent on it over a 20 year period. I was stunned what low 
ball offers I received by Dealers and Collectors, yet they sell their pieces 
on their sites for top dollar!


I decided to sell my collection to an institution that we both agreed in 
writing to never resell my collection for profit but rather display the 
collection as a way to draw Folks to the institution for learning and 
educational purposes. The institution would make money via an admission fee 
to view the collection and other attractions they have set up. Did I take a 
loss? You bet I did, but at least I know my efforts, time and money over 20 
years collecting meteorites was not in vain. It will now be viewed by 
thousands of Folks rather than a few if I just displayed the collection in 
my house, thus worth it. I left a legacy so to speak as my name is displayed 
on the collection in the institution and I can travel and see my collection 
free at any time!


I sold my collection because as I got older I did not want to leave it to be 
sold by my family after I take my last breath here on this Earth. They would 
have had no idea where to begin with it and or how to sell it nor what value 
it was worth. A burden I did not want to leave them.


With the Covid 19 running this world into the ground, especially Folks 
losing their jobs, houses etc. it would not surprise me some collector 
needing quick cash from a Pawn shop to pay bills and such. Desperate times 
call for desperate measures. Sad as it is, we do what we need to do.


Cheers and Happy Holidays to ALL you meteorite Folks out there.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list" 


To: "John higgins" 
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?



Hi John and List,

I never thought to cross-reference these with the Met Bull. Good
detective work there. The numbers just don't add up. Something is
suspect there - or "sus" as the kids say now. LOL.

Occasionally you'll see these pawn brokers or antique/collectible
dealers offer a meteorite or two, but you don't often see an entire
collection of larger and more interesting pieces from a seller like
this. Meteorites clearly aren't their speciality, so the pawn shop is
just probably passing along whatever info came with the specimens when
they received them.

What strikes me is (you alluded to the same) is that a collection of
this size and quality is wasted on a pawn shop. Who takes a collection
like that to the corner pawn shop? The seller could have done a lot
better selling it first-hand to collectors and not going through a
pawn broker that is going to lowball you on the sale. I'd think that
any collector who built a collection like that would be savvier than
walking into a pawn shop and plopping them on the counter for a quick
sale.

But, who knows? Somebody might have needed money fast for legit
reason. Or, maybe they are stolen. Or maybe the story is stranger than
that. Just seeing all of those meteorites for sale by a pawn shop made
me curious. I've been watching them for a couple of weeks now, and
more specimens keep being offered.

Buyer beware.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 12/1/20, John higgins  wrote:

Hey Mike,
Check out the Dar El Ghani 995 and examine the listed weights for the 
stone.

Take into account the two photographed specimens in the encyclopedia of
meteorites.
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=6535
https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Main mass of 46.5g and the bulletin says the type specimen weighs 11.2g .
The tkw is listed as 56.12 This is a physical impossibility since the 
Pawn
Shop shows a tkw of 57.62, more than the Meteoritical Bulletin shows 
exists,

and that is not accounting for cutting loss and the 2 photographed
specimens. Maybe the meteorites were purposely stripped of the provenance 
to
hide something. Maybe they are stolen? Clearly someone is trying to get 
rid
of them really fast. Buyers should be cautious, and the collection they 
are

sourced from should be identified fast!!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[John higgins via Meteorite-list]

Hey Mike, 
Check out the Dar El Ghani 995 and examine the listed weights for the stone. 
Take into account the two photographed specimens in the encyclopedia of 
meteorites. 
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=6535
https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Main mass of 46.5g and the bulletin says the type specimen weighs 11.2g . The 
tkw is listed as 56.12 This is a physical impossibility since the Pawn Shop 
shows a tkw of 57.62, more than the Meteoritical Bulletin shows exists, and 
that is not accounting for cutting loss and the 2 photographed specimens. Maybe 
the meteorites were purposely stripped of the provenance to hide something. 
Maybe they are stolen? Clearly someone is trying to get rid of them really 
fast. Buyers should be cautious, and the collection they are sourced from 
should be identified fast!!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Have a great day,
John Higgins 
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:02 PM, Michael Gilmer via 
Meteorite-list wrote:   This eBay seller, 
Loyalty Pawn, has been offering some higher-end
meteorites lately - many of them. These are not the typical meteorites
you see occasionally offered by this type of seller. This is obviously
somebody's collection being sold piecemeal. Does anyone know who this
collection used to belong to? There are no hints to provenance in the
listings.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/613-Grams-Large-Howardite-NWA-3078-Meteorite-MAIN-MASS-Endcut-w-Crust/264959075664

Best regards,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list]

Hi John and List,

I never thought to cross-reference these with the Met Bull. Good
detective work there. The numbers just don't add up. Something is
suspect there - or "sus" as the kids say now. LOL.

Occasionally you'll see these pawn brokers or antique/collectible
dealers offer a meteorite or two, but you don't often see an entire
collection of larger and more interesting pieces from a seller like
this. Meteorites clearly aren't their speciality, so the pawn shop is
just probably passing along whatever info came with the specimens when
they received them.

What strikes me is (you alluded to the same) is that a collection of
this size and quality is wasted on a pawn shop. Who takes a collection
like that to the corner pawn shop? The seller could have done a lot
better selling it first-hand to collectors and not going through a
pawn broker that is going to lowball you on the sale. I'd think that
any collector who built a collection like that would be savvier than
walking into a pawn shop and plopping them on the counter for a quick
sale.

But, who knows? Somebody might have needed money fast for legit
reason. Or, maybe they are stolen. Or maybe the story is stranger than
that. Just seeing all of those meteorites for sale by a pawn shop made
me curious. I've been watching them for a couple of weeks now, and
more specimens keep being offered.

Buyer beware.

Best regards,

MikeG

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---

On 12/1/20, John higgins  wrote:
> Hey Mike,
> Check out the Dar El Ghani 995 and examine the listed weights for the stone.
> Take into account the two photographed specimens in the encyclopedia of
> meteorites.
> https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=6535
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
> Main mass of 46.5g and the bulletin says the type specimen weighs 11.2g .
> The tkw is listed as 56.12 This is a physical impossibility since the Pawn
> Shop shows a tkw of 57.62, more than the Meteoritical Bulletin shows exists,
> and that is not accounting for cutting loss and the 2 photographed
> specimens. Maybe the meteorites were purposely stripped of the provenance to
> hide something. Maybe they are stolen? Clearly someone is trying to get rid
> of them really fast. Buyers should be cautious, and the collection they are
> sourced from should be identified fast!!!
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/46-5-G-Dar-al-Gani-995-Meteorite-Specimen-Main-Mass-Black-Fusion-Crust-DaG-995-/264951405461?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
>
> Have a great day,
> John Higgins
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:02 PM, Michael Gilmer via
> Meteorite-list wrote:   This eBay
> seller, Loyalty Pawn, has been offering some higher-end
> meteorites lately - many of them. These are not the typical meteorites
> you see occasionally offered by this type of seller. This is obviously
> somebody's collection being sold piecemeal. Does anyone know who this
> collection used to belong to? There are no hints to provenance in the
> listings.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/613-Grams-Large-Howardite-NWA-3078-Meteorite-MAIN-MASS-Endcut-w-Crust/264959075664
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Today''s Meteorite Picture of the Day: Kolang

Contributed by: Roberto Vargas

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=12/01/2020
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