[meteorite-list] Sheboygan Wisconsin Lake Michigan meteor Feb 7, 2017
Probably one of the best sets of videos of the meteor last night going southwest to northeast across Illinois and up the shore of Lake Michigan. Great explanation by Mike Hankey. https://youtu.be/v49qgQpBUq0 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 10
Hello everybody, Let me say a couple of things about this scoundrel in Hong Kong, and what I think he's up to, and then the constant bashing of ebay. Keep a watch out for the meteorites this guy bought, he's probably going to sell them himself either through his ebay user ID, but most likely he has another user ID he's probably going to sell them through. He also may be working with someone who will sell them either on their own website or maybe ebay. Think about it, it makes no sense this guy would buy a meteorite and then burn his bridges to the people he bought the meteorites from who supplied them, so to speak, by making the sellers look bad by purposely leaving negative feedback to make them look bad to keep buyers away. He most likely did this in the hopes that potential buyers would shy away from the sellers he defamed and not buy from them. He's probably planning on selling them and getting the business from buyers that he Thinks he has fooled into not buying from the sellers he has tried to condemn with the negative feedback. Let's all work together to look for these meteorites being sold in the future if we can get all the seller's help. If all the sellers would all post the names of the meteorites and dimensions and weight, and if possible links to the photos would be great. If we can all see or have information about the meteorites he bought then this would help everyone in the meteorite community so that no one buys these meteorites from him or any people he's working with, so we can prevent him from making any money from his scamming and lying. Now, onto the ebay concern, many of us don't have a website, like you Mike F and you Mike G, Anne, etc., and for now ebay suits me fine. Yes, there are scammers on ebay, But with tens of Millions of people on it daily buying and selling from around the world, it's a small price to pay for 24/7 exposure and new customers and cross collectors that happen upon buying their first meteorite, when they were looking for something else. I bought my first meteorites in the early 2000s on ebay from now well known long time dealers when I was looking for my usual favorites at the time, such as mineral specimens and rocks, coins and collectible jewelry, when I got excited and came across cross-sellers who sold meteorites and rocks and coins at the time. It's also fun as a buyer, and even though Ebay is Not perfect, as folks have stated here, but as Ruben said, ebay does realize there are a$$holes, scammers and thieves that pull bizarre and hateful crap like unnecessary negative feedback, and Ebay will and does remove it if you are willing to take the time on the phone to go through the same amount of time you would when calling Amazon or Walmart or Macy's or whatever other business you have to call to solve a problem. Now, granted its different as a seller, but I've found ebay has grown up over the years, even though some folks talk like its archaic, but per Ruben's story and John Humphries and even the posts Dave Cox shares on Facebook about the hassles he gets, they do recognize honest sellers that have imbeciles causing trouble and they will fix a problem such as this troublemaker. Everyone have a great day, and may a large and rare Meteorite land safely in your yard. Brian __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] $20,000 for the Maine meteorite fall.
> Dennis, it was meant as a joke, but I was curious also by how he came up with > 5 feet. I was writing it as half joke, half curiosity, like, tongue in cheek, > haahhhh type humor, as in "How did he determine it was 5 feet," > but I wrote 5 inches instead, it was late, and it was light hearted humor. Guess I shouldn't try to be funny on this list. I was curious though as to why or how he determined it was that size, (5 feet) and added that, since the article didn't say why he thought it was that size, nor how he came to that conclusion, so I was joking about it, like he used something Thanks, have a great evening. Brian > > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 23:38:41 + > From: Dennis Miller <astror...@hotmail.com> > To: Brian Cox <searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net>, >"meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" ><meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $20,000 for the Maine meteorite fall. > Message-ID: > > <sn1pr16mb051294851b55886e4debc6ebb1...@sn1pr16mb0512.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Not sure what you read in the article but, I got that he thought the meteor > could > have been as big as 5 feet in diameter and was hoping that someone could find > a softball size sample. It is a wet and very wooded area with no roads. Oh, > other > SWAGS were, Canyon Diablo: size of a house, Chelyabinsk: size of a bus, > Almahata Sita: size of a van. > Dennis Miller > IMCA #1434 > Meteoritical Society #5745 > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 24, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Brian Cox via Meteorite-list >> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> I'm very curious as to how this gentleman at the Mineral Museum in Maine >> determined that the Maine meteorite is approximately 5 inches in diameter, >> and "about the size of a softball." >> >> Did he have a Super Telescope he was viewing it through at the time, or how >> did he determine through weather or TV station, or parking lot cameras, or >> cell phone video with some math equation that it was the size of a softball? >> I honestly hope they find a piece that large, and that they find it by this >> summer or fall before the first big snow in the area. >> Brian Cox >> IMCA# 6387 >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 04:09:23 -0700 >>> From: "Shawn Alan" <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com> >>> To: "Meteorite Central" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] $20,000 for the Maine meteorite fall. >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <20160523040923.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.ec18bccd74@email22.godaddy.com> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hello Listers >>> >>> I guess there is a reward for a piece of the meteorite fall in Maine. >>> $20,000. I wonder if that's for the main mass, or a piece of the Lunar >>> meteorite? >>> >>> Link: >>> http://www.khou.com/news/weird/museum-offers-reward-and-tips-to-find-meteorite/202576172 >>> >>> Shawn Alan >>> IMCA 1633 >>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html >>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com >> _ __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] $20,000 for the Maine meteorite fall.
I'm very curious as to how this gentleman at the Mineral Museum in Maine determined that the Maine meteorite is approximately 5 inches in diameter, and "about the size of a softball." Did he have a Super Telescope he was viewing it through at the time, or how did he determine through weather or TV station, or parking lot cameras, or cell phone video with some math equation that it was the size of a softball? I honestly hope they find a piece that large, and that they find it by this summer or fall before the first big snow in the area. Brian Cox IMCA# 6387 > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 04:09:23 -0700 > From: "Shawn Alan" <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com> > To: "Meteorite Central" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] $20,000 for the Maine meteorite fall. > Message-ID: > > <20160523040923.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.ec18bccd74@email22.godaddy.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Listers > > I guess there is a reward for a piece of the meteorite fall in Maine. > $20,000. I wonder if that's for the main mass, or a piece of the Lunar > meteorite? > > Link: > http://www.khou.com/news/weird/museum-offers-reward-and-tips-to-find-meteorite/202576172 > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html > Website http://meteoritefalls.com > > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Ebay: Leedey Meteorite 40 gms from Oklahoma End Crust Beauty Ends tonight Sunday May 15
Hi Folks, Please take a look at this beautiful 40 gram, very nicely cut Leedey, Oklahoma Meteorite, from Dewey County, Oklahoma, it ends tonight on ebay. Click on link, or search Leedey Meteorite, from searchingforfun Witnessed Fall November 25, 1943 Stone Olivine-hypersthene chondrite (L6) >From TCU Collection Very nice Dark End Crust Thanks for looking, Brian IMCA# 6387 http://www.ebay.com/itm/272237290597?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 LEEDEY Meteorite 40gms L6 Stone CRUST TCU Fell 11-25-1943 Dewey Co Oklahoma IMCA | | | | | | | | | | | LEEDEY Meteorite 40gms L6 Stone CRUST TCU Fell 11-...US $220.00 Used in Collectibles, Rocks, Fossils & Minerals, Meteorites & Tektites | | | | View on www.ebay.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Meteor Stone" for sale in Lebanon call 96171757656
You might want to check out this piece of rock or most likely slag, or melted metal on Facebook, on the page; " Crystal/Mineral Specimens-Buy/Trade/Sell/Show and Tell! " Posted by Chady Hanna, for sale, it says FREE under the words Meteor Stone. It's Unlike any meteorite I have ever seen. I don't know anything about this guy, perhaps he needs some information and help on what is and isn't a meteor or meteorite. https://www.facebook.com/groups/363910383711929/?multi_permalinks=695196957249935_t=commerce_interesting_product_id=1459748091712662 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 156, Issue 16
I am sure that nearly everyone in America and the World, unless they're a really far rightwing Obama hating conservative, reads the FULL Name, "Barrack Hussein Obama" that it means they're using Barrack and Hussein, as "Key Names" as in "Hot Button" issue names, since it makes the dense slow to respond folks think somethings along the lines of; ( you mean that black Kenyan Muslim President that got the slippery route into office. I'm sure Adam didn't mean for it to sound that way, but what he copied and pasted was written to stir up that hatred and bigotry against Obama. I know there's always the comeback of the republican candidates such as Rafael Edwardo Cruz, to make him sound Really Hispanic and Cuban, but democrats and the media aren't using that full given name, just Ted. I think simply the name "Obama" lets everyone in the World know whom someone is talking about. I think it's a great idea to preserve land, we don't need anymore lame suburbs with the same street names throughout like Buena Vista or Peachtree, except with Street on one, Drive on the connecting street, Lane on the next street and Terrace on the one 3 blocks over. Ted Turner and another intelligent few bought up all the land they could to preserve the beauty between Denver and Colorado Springs, to keep that area from becoming one GIANT tract housing subdivision. Sincerely, Brian Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2016, at 12:19 PM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com > wrote: > > Barrack Hussein Obama __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay heads up - Tissint/Scarborough
Hi Don and list, Don I fully agree with you regarding the fact that All collectors and dealers should keep every single piece of provenance from the past history of who owned and sold the meteorite and I'm sure any Meteorite Dealer in good conscious would agree with you that provenance is very important and that we should all keep the paperwork, card or just a slip of paper or receipt from the previous seller for historical reasons and a good paper trail. I've bought many meteorites over the past 12 or so years that I've been collecting that I wish they had the original paperwork and bought many that had a copy of a card or label from a museum in Europe or America that was 30 or 40 years old or a new copy of the old card when I wished they had given me that old original card. Many I've purchased from a previous dealer had their card and the previous piece of paper, but many have only had a new card from the person that sold it to me with their card or laminated card. My best story to go along with your thoughts and mine too was a rare meteorite I purchased, small, but expensive that I purchased many years ago, then sold to a well known person, then they sold it to another well known dealer who sold it to another well known dealer and then I bought this same exact meteorite back and only got the card from the previous dealer. I thought it would have been wonderful and very nice if I had gotten back even my card and some of the old paperwork, but I assume that in our fast paced time and this age that most are trying to get their names out there and only want us to buy from them so that is why they are selling it with their new card so that we remember them and buy from them again and then if we pass it along then that next person will see their card and contact them for other meteorites instead of the previous sellers. I appreciate you bringing this up Don because now and in the future down the line I am going to try and concentrate more and more on asking any dealer for the previous paperwork for provenance of the sellers before them. I hope your post allows all collectors and dealers to hold onto all of the old paperwork because I think many of us collectors will be looking for old provenance down the road, and I know that I certainly will be demanding it. Have a great day and may a wonderful rare meteorite fall in your yard and all of our fellow collector's yards. Brian Cox Message: 9 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:22:08 -0500 From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay heads up - Tissint/Scarborough To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Message-ID: 000301cceb34$cd2ce500$6501a8c0@donaldmerchant Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Count and Kudos' to you! You bring up some very real and serious points. I hope I don't upset anyone with this post. I have this huge pet peeve of those that sell meteorites without listing, mentioning and or providing a Provenance on meteorites whether it be on eBay or their Websites.You don't go out and purchase a used car without asking for a car fax or asking questions before purchasing it, and so the same should also be done when interested in purchasing a meteorite from anyone, be it eBay or Dealer Website or any other form of Auctions. I refuse to purchase any meteorite from anyone without this provenance or at the lease asking the Seller on a meteorites history. As I have said before, meteorites don't grow on trees! They arrived in the Sellers possession from somewhere and or from someone other then those meteorites that have been found. Those meteorites found would most likely and better have been sent to a lab for testing and verification so as to start some form of provenance. I highly recommend to ALL Sellers/Collectors and Dealers to inquire the validity of meteorites they intend to purchase. SAVE this provenance label or paper of history so the next future buyer can have a copy of it for his or her records. I find it sloppy professionalism to those who can not provide provenance time and time again on meteorites they sell. Though an ID card helps...the truth is anyone can make up an ID card. A provenance can be traced to the former owner and more questions can then be brought up on the specimens validity. Consider it a blood line so to speak or family tree! Hope I did not offend anyone with my views. I am just trying to protect all of you and your collections including mine by enacting professional organized record keeping practices. - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay heads up - Tissint/Scarborough
Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas
Hello Mexico Doug and List, Yes, I agree with the information about the hunt and the chase and the fun and perils of wild animals and wild and crazy people. I wrote before to Mexico Doug last night and I was confused and there was a misunderstanding on my part about a quote of Doug's about me, and I understand now and contacted him last night and all is well and now I understand he was agreeing with me on the things that we are all concerned about while trying to hunt for meteorites and everything involved. All the best to Mexico Doug and the list. Brian Hi George, Eric Guido I generally agree with Count Guido; in the thick hammocks surrounded by rich swampland where you see the panthers in Florida, the light can get very tricky and towards animals all tend to black. I'm sure Eric saw what he said, was definitly no wuss, and frequently footprints in the sandy soil can be very difficult to dimension and size also vary concordant with that besides the size/weight of the animal so that really isn't a very reliable indicator although whatever he mentioned he knows best... ...Speaking only for myslef, as I tend to hunt insects more than big cats, that is. Really in Florida the only danger I ever worried about wasa coral snake. But here's a panther in Florida on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uxO79138CQ#t=2m27s lucky catch, but if you spend enough time in there you are bound to run across these guys. Unless threatened, they will do exactly what you see here and to say an experienced hiker in the 'Glades would be scared is really not likely. Probably there are more food resources everywhere here so they don't become irritable for food and break people's neck's often (never that I heard). Plus the posting of the Big Bend, TX incident was a 6 year old kid. Don't know the details but I get the idea that the parents ought to have kept a better eye on him no matter what is said. People get so bent out of shape over risk. One swimmer gets bit by a shark and there is pandemonium. More people get killed going to the beach in their cars ... same concvept with the poor cats at work. But I guess if I were the unlucky one I'd be whistling a different tune. So better jusdty to take normal precautions and not do anything stupid, and respect the wildlife. I've lost count of all the wild boars, large snakes and weird reptiles and animals I've seen hunting in Mexico and so far keeping one's distance with respect and everyone peacefully co-exists. Oh, but I can get the crap scared out of me, too, don't get me wrong, all alone at night when a cow moos the hell suddenly beside my tent and starts peeing on it and you can't see your hand in front of your face. Then there's the coyotes, I love 'em. But they can get into groups and start wailing like a devil being exorcized and they don't quit. Yeah, I admit those noises can be scarier than swimming with Great Whites, and you know coyotes 99.9% of the time put their tail between their legs and take off. Kindest wsihes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende Meteorite and Pancho Villa's Beautiful Saddle sold for a record in Mesa, Arizona last week.
To Mexico Doug and list, Speaking of Allende and Pancho Villa, here is a link to his beautiful saddle that sold in Mesa, AZ last week for $718,000.00 US Dollars and it gives a little history about Pancho and how he was honored by both America and Mexico and how his head was stolen from his grave and has never been found. All the best to the list and Mexico Doug, and to the memory of Pancho Villa http://www.kovels.com/201202069584/Latest-News/big-newshistoric-saddle-sells-for-world-record-price.html?utm_source=Listrakutm_medium=Emailutm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.kovels.com%2f201202069584%2fLatest-News%2fbig-newshistoric-saddle-sells-for-world-record-price.htmlutm_campaign=Kovels+Komments+%5bFebruary+8%2c+2012%5d%3a+Historic+Saddle+Sells+for+World+Record+Price __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood
I'm interested in all the aspects of the Meteorite hunt, from the information to the terrain to the locals. Please keep all the information coming. It helps out the Pros and the amateurs that have never been out hunting before and will help them in their first hunt or many down the road. It's a good idea to know what is involved whether it's in the desert or the woods or on farmland. Thanks, Brian now... To Mexico Doug, If you have something to say to me Doug, just send it to me directly. You've sent several posts to the list and then cc me and put a condensed quote in the beginning of the email relating to me, as in this previous post tonight. Brian wrote: stay off ... permission to hunt on it. Eric just mentioned about the Black Panther and others did too and I was trying to help out with the other posts that mentioned large cats in Florida as someone was discussing Bobcats and Florida Panthers. IF you want to demean me then please contact me directly and we'll discuss it between ourselves. I'm posting this here since several people emailed me asking me what the problem was with you having quoted me several times now in emails to the list. IF you have a problem with me then send it directly to me as I should be doing here, but I am killing two birds with one stone. I don't want to get into a list flame war with you, but you have weakly quoted me before and I don't know if it's because I've ruffled your feathers regarding previous posts or what since I don't recall having corresponded with you in any previous emails over the last nearly 13 years I've been collecting meteorites except last month when I mentioned the long posts where people were including several posts together and mentioned that it would be a good idea since many of us use our cell phones during the day to read email and that one included post was good enough instead of the entire posts from several days. You seemed to have taken offense at that and as I mentioned I get several condensed emails per day from Art and each condensed email may contain between 10 and 18 emails in it instead of 1 individual email at a time. I'd like to ask you now in front of the entire list to contact me directly if you have a chip on your shoulder about that or some wild hair about something you were offended by since I've never used your name directly or referred to you before. Thank you, Brian -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: searchingforfun searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:55 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas Brian wrote: stay off ... permission to hunt on it. I'm with Eric on the panthers; it's hard to live as a child in the natural habitat of panthers (the *Florida Panther* is the official state animal and correct common name of the animal), but our guys certainly don't range to Texas. As for the scare tactics, sheesh, every time there is a new meteorite fall we run through the same drill and after a while hasn't anyone gotten a little tired of the overly protective nature of it? Oh, don't go there! Oh spiders and snakes! Oh crazy druggies! Oh, mean thugs! Well, I agree that there are risks especially in certain circumstances, and a low key noting of caution is always helpful and great. What I object to is the three ringed circus that usually seems to be blown out of proportion in the most inconspicuous places ... now, a nature reserve outside Dallas ! Risk is such a subject and relative construction, I mean walking down the street in my hometown in Mexico used to be safer than any US city and now it is 10 times more dangerous that tough US inner cities ... The advice to actually respect peoples wishes is the tried and true method of success in the strewn field. Here's a training video for a future meteorite hunter who would eat the space rock given a chance ! Ah, to learn the complex definition and subtleties of the meaning of NO! (nao)! Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas
Hello World Meteorite Collectors; After reading so many posts about the Meth heads and the crazy guy in the Northern part of the strewn field area and about 5 or 6 different descriptions of what is and what is NOT a Black Panther I couldn't help but jump in. METH is All Across America, Canada and Mexico, it's not just from Oregon to Texas or anywhere in a pocket in between. It's from Newfoundland to British Colombia up to Alaska and the Yukon Territories down the West Coast of the US into Baja and through Mexico and Central America. If you Google Meth and the Sinaloa Cartel you will find that El Chapo Guzman, the MULTI-Billionaire head Bandito of the Sinaloa Cartel who is on FORBES magazine's Richest Men in the world has started making his Meth in Central America after having been busted for over $100 Million US dollars in Meth related Chemicals in Mexico. Meth is in New York City, Miami, Atlanta, Chicago, you name it. I've seen fires reported all over the Midwest and East coast and the South and it's not just a Texas or West Coast US thing and I've read of them and it's very common for people to use a POP Liter bottle to shake it up and mix it. They may be cooking it in Texas for themselves or to transport it to the rest of the US. You would think that Texas would pay more attention to Meth kitchens than other social issues they seem to want to get involved in. Yes, you can sometimes tell a true Meth Head by their gaunt drawn faces, bad rotten and worn down teeth from grinding them and pimples and sores, but not all the cookers actually use the stuff. Throw out all the stereotypes since you can't peg them all. Next, stay off of anyone's property that hasn't given you Personal permission to hunt on it. You should ask the local Sheriff or Police if it's dangerous or not to go up to someone's house if you're not sure or honk on your way up the drive to let them know you're coming if you're that brave or foolish to decide you want to take a chance. BLACK Panthers or mixed black and tan or solid or with rings or spots or underlying coloration are explained very well and their Melanistic color traits in this link in Wikipedia, if this will be accepted on this email. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther Panthers, that are about the size of our North American species that includes the names used interchangeably throughout portions of America as either Cougar, Mountain Lion or Puma. Black Panthers are indeed natives of South and Central America and also found in Mexico and in Asia they are called Jaguars. Yes, they may have wondered into any of the border states along the US-Mexican border or as has been mentioned belonged to some exotic breeder and have been released or escaped. Texas has many ranches and wildlife refugees and remember what happened in Ohio just a few months ago. There is always the possibility that it's just a Cougar-Puma-Mountain Lion and it looked BLACK at night to some of the locals or METH heads who probably can't see well anyhow with their pupils screwed up by drugs, but it doesn't really matter since a large CAT from any of the wild species and relatives of the Panther or Cougar family are large and will prey on smaller animals. In Florida the Florida Panther is more native to the Everglades and has become almost extinct as it is an endangered animal but its numbers have increased since the 1970s after almost being wiped out. The Bobcat is NOT at all a Panther and it's NOT a Cougar. A Bobcat, is just as the name implies, it has a BOBBED Tail as in a short stubby tail and is a much smaller animal in size and weight than a Black Panther or a Cougar-Puma-Mountain Lion and is about twice the size of an average house cat with tufted ears and ranges from Southern Canada to Northern Mexico. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat Look them all up on Google, MSN or Yahoo for photos of them. Happy hunting to all of those out in Texas or wherever you live and hoping you are safe and find many meteorites. To those that said be more careful around the druggies and Meth heads, and property owners, that is true, the Cougar or The Black Panther, or whatever kind of a large cat it is will most likely be more afraid of you than some Meth head looking for money or more drugs. Have a great evening. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LONG Posts that give us Arthritis to Scroll though
Hi Doug, Yes, I get the combined version of posts that goes out after so many have accumulated or when Art sends them and sometimes this is several in a day. That is why I mentioned scrolling through all of them and just in general the time and energy and I threw battery life in there just for the heck of it. I'm not that worried about it, but I was thinking of others that have phones that the battery lasts a couple of hours. Thanks! -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:32 PM To: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] LONG Posts that give us Arthritis to Scroll though Brian wrote: How about just a Fresh email Post without all the long trailing info of many old posts. ... short on time, battery life and Increasingly Bad Vision Hi Brian, I think you have a good point and I've added to the carpal woes. It is just convenient as mentioned not to have to open other screens and toggle when trying to understand some of the more intense posts, or to conveniently catch up on those ignored until the spirt move you to catch up. Still, the old practice of quoting what's relevant is sometimes lost and far more efficient for everyone I think, when possible, so at least I'll try to keep that in mind when participating in some of the whopper threads - also because the archives are probably getting near critical mass and may fragment into an alphabet soup nova. I don't understand the comment about the scrolling and batteries, though. At least on my phone, I can skip or delete messages once I am satisfied I've read as far as I want, without having to go to the end, I never get to the accumulated meteorite-list tags at the bottom and it's never a big deal (though I imagine if you get the daily compendium format it would be a major problem). Other consciencious gestures could include always putting new content at the top of the thread. One of my favorite people always puts their comments at the end and that usually throws me for a loop just as driving on the opposite sice of the road from convention. The other is for people that don't reference at all what they are talking about and there are orphan comments that leave one scratching their head and finally, another meteorite institution from San Diego who I greatly respect always starts his new threads out with a Re: Subject when he is replying to no previous Subject, so it cues me to think I'm entering it in mid thread ... kind of the concept some spammers use by sending you a thread Re: invoice making you think you are already involved in an email exchange with them if you have dozens to go through...and are short on time to think. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LONG Posts that give us Arthritis to Scroll though
Hello all of you wonderful Meteorite Collectors and those lucky enough to be in Tucson this year, Just a quick request that many have been talking about lately. How about just a Fresh email Post without all the long trailing info of many old posts. Since many of us old timers and new folks read our Email on our phones and are short on time, battery life and Increasingly Bad Vision and those of us who are getting arthritis and want to avoid Carpo-Tunnel, can I please request when everyone sends a post that they leave out all the lengthy portions of many, many OLD previous email posts. It's very time consuming on us all and on our phone batteries and on our wrists and hands, back and shoulders and bodies in general all over to scroll through all the previous posts that many are including in their posts to the list. I'm seeing posts going back over 4 days or more that we don't need to read or scroll through regarding many things, especially the recent etching posts. Most of us understand etching, but when you have a post that includes the past 3-7 email posts no one is reading all the old posts since we've already read it and those that haven't seen them will catch up or can go into the archives to find them. Please, just a friendly request for a Fresh Post and perhaps one short connected previous email post, not the entire thread. This will make everyone much happier and cut down on time and battery life and our bodies. Thanks! ;-) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Appraisal for Insurance?
Hi Folks, Most major insurance companies such as State Farm, Allstate or Progressive will simply tell you: GET a Safety Deposit Box for your valuable collections. They won't insure or don't want to tackle something that is worth over a few thousand dollars. I checked into this 12 years ago when I started collecting meteorites, and also coins, stamps, jewelry, etc. If you really wanted your insurance company to cover anything over $3,000 they have to attach a Rider and you're paying out the Whaaazooo in premiums. The most common sense thing to do is go to your local Bank and get a safety deposit box that is large enough for all your most valuable collections, either Meteorites, coins, stamps, gold, silver, jewelry or whatever and you pay a yearly fee which would be cheaper by far than an insurance premium. Plus you're better covered by your bank from fire, theft, flood or anything that might happen in your home and you can always go and visit your things or bring some home for a while. It just doesn't make sense to pay HUGE premiums and risk something that is so hard to value, especially older historical meteorites that keep going up in value and items that just can't be replaced for their beauty such as jewelry and other collectables. Take care, Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking to buy - Sudbury Impactite
Hi Mike, Well, my friend, you're about 6 years too late on my Sudbury Impactite. I had several large slabs of it and sold half, but it didn't go for enough and then one day I was transplanting one of 30 plants, I don't even remember which one it was now, and I needed something to put in the bottom for drainage. I didn't feel like going out to the True-value to get a clay pot to break up and had several 1-2 by 4-5 pieces of Sudbury Impactite around and just put them over the drainage hole. IF I knew which plant it was I would dump it upside down, but it must have been one of my 8 foot tall plants that weighs 250 pounds in a 2 foot x 2 foot pot. If I ever transplant them in the future and find them, I will certainly contact you. ;-) ) All the best. Brian Message: 6 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:12:10 -0400 From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: BANLkTinnHMj=x299xa9irn_uj-im37a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Folks, I'm asking around trying to find a nice-sized chunk of Sudbury impact material - something roughly baseball sized for display. If you have something available, contact me off-list. I also still looking for micros of NWA 2999 angrite and etched Gibeon iron. Thanks in advance! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer-Hammer Stone! urgent
Hello Marc, Dirk and all, I agree with you that it's very sad that there may be no more meteorites found in this area and the developers don't give a damn about it, nor anyone apparently buying a property there. Maybe if someone builds a swimming pool they will discover a long buried piece and realize it's not a common rock. Home prices range from a very small home at an average $300,000.00 USD which is very common for Orange County to $10 Million dollar homes and ranchettes. It's not a community that cares about meteorites, being in southern Orange County, not far from the ocean and just north of San Diego County in Southern California. They are more focused on building homes than allowing anyone to search for meteorites, plus they won't take the insurance risk. Look up real estate prices at www.realtor.com and look under Wikipedia for general information about the city. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Juan_Capistrano,_California San Juan Capistrano is known for its cliff swallows. The protected birds are reputed to return from migration, traditionally originating in the town of Goya, Argentina, on St. Joseph's Day (March 19). The town is in heavily conservative and republican Orange County. They really don't care at all about meteorites, it's sad to say, but just about making money. Remember it's called Orange county, because it was once full of orange groves, which have disappeared over the years to build homes. Politics: In the state legislature San Juan Capistrano is located in the 38th Senate District, represented by Republican Mark Wyland, and in the 73rd Assembly District, represented by Republican Diane Harkey. Federally, San Juan Capistrano is located in California's 44th and 48th congressional districts, which have Cook PVIs of R +6 and R +8 respectively[3] and is represented by Republicans Ken Calvert and John Campbell respectively. As of the 2010 elections, the city council members are: Sam Allevato (Mayor), Laura Freese, Larry Kramer (Mayor Pro Tem), John Taylor, and Derek Reeve. This city also has four private, Christian, college prep schools named Capistrano Valley Christian Schools (Pre-K through 12th grade), Saddleback Valley Christian School (Pre-K through 12th grade), St. Margaret's Episcopal School (also Pre-K through 12th grade), and J. Serra Catholic High School (9th through 12th grade). The city also has two private kindergarten through eighth grade schools named Mission Parish School and Rancho Capistrano Christian School. Mission Parish School is located on the historic Mission grounds, utilizes some of the historic buildings as classrooms, and is situated next to Mission Basilica San Juan Capistrano. The other is Rancho Capistrano Christian School, located off Highway 5 on the Crystal Cathedral's south campus. The campus at Rancho Capistrano is also host to meetings and conventions, as well as summer camps. Hope this gives those of you unfamiliar with Orange County some insight into why the city and the county aren't interested in meteorites, like we are. Take care, Brian Message: 11 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT) From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer - Hammer Stone! urgent To: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Michael L Blood mlbl...@cox.net Message-ID: 49967.99935...@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Marc, Thank you for your urgent plea. The list may be unaware that this is California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more important for some San Juan Capistrano Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew??? MetSocBul entry http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128 San Juan Capistrano H6 FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A. 33?29'05N, 117?39'45W. Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, Pacific Standard Time. Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6). Number of individual specimens: 2 Total weight: 56g Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the aluminum sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on the carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g, was discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport roof. Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in the San Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM Howdy all ? ? This isn't new news at this point, but the site of the San Juan Capistrano
[meteorite-list] Rely on maps and weather conditions and local info, not always on GPS short routes
hi folks, I thought I'd post this story about a Canadian woman who was recently found by hunters on their snow mobiles who were themselves lost in the rough and treacherous mountains of Northern Nevada and her husband hasn't been found yet. They asked for the shortest route to Las Vegas from Canada and wound up in mountains they shouldn't have been in, since many people are out hiking or looking for rocks and meteorites out in the dry salt flats or dry lake beds and mountains. Just be careful, I know the majority of you are and you are smart, but some people new to the hobbies are relying too much on GPS gadgets that will get you lost and possibly worse if you don’t also use maps and local info. There was the story a few months ago about the woman who lived, but her 6 year old son died in Death Valley after using GPS to find the shortest route through Death Valley and used service roads and old mining roads and dirt trails and the dead bodies of a couple who were found recently who used used GPS back in 2009 in Death Valley and were lost and never found until searches found them almost 2 years later. Don't rely just on GPS, use the old fashioned way, A Map, that has updated road info and check weather conditions. I have used GPS and if you put in shortest route it will take you places you don't belong. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20110511/ap_tr_ge/us_travel_brief_missing_canadian_couple All the best and happy hunting. Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Heritage House Auction House today sold the Coffeyville Meteorite for $4780.00, with Ty Pennington for ABC pilot show
hi all, I just checked on the Large End-Piece of a Stony Meteorite from Kansas. Coffeyville, Chondrite - H-5 from Montgomery County, Kansas auction at the Live Auction in Long Beach, CA. that ended today 04/16/11 for the pilot show for ABC TV with Ty Pennington, sold for $4780.00 8 x 4 ½ x 3 ½ inches, and weighs 5,290 grams (11 ½ pounds) Wonder if we know the lucky winner and if they showed up at the Live Auction to appear on TV. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance
Graham, Yinan, Shawn and list, I enjoyed Graham's response the best. I can't say that mixing up all their pictures/samples really instills me with confidence in a bill of sale from Bonhams! I'm with you Graham, and I hope they got the mix-up corrected before the auctions begin or some lucky winning bidder may not be too happy down the road. I've been waiting for a response from a certain 'cough-cough' auction house since December on an item I won for more information on provenance and have given up calling the person in charge. I agree with you Yinan and you are correct that it up to the seller of the item if they want their name put down in any catalogue or online or given out at all. It's a privacy issue and many are reluctant to allow that information to be given out to the public, even to the buyer. Many people get a thrill at seeing their name in print as being the person who owned the item, but many do prefer to remain anonymous and for various reasons. Who wants the world to know you had to sell the family jewels to pay the mortgage, junior's college education and pay that new sports car off after the divorce, let alone the alimony and child support payments. Have a great day all, enjoy it, I am. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question
Bill, I have a feeling that since you stated the man said it bounced off his roof, but you didn't say if he actually saw it hit his roof and bounce off or if he heard it hit and found it on the ground or if he just came out in the yard and found it laying there makes me think that either some neighborhood kid threw it on the roof or perhaps he threw it himself and is just telling you it bounced as part of his Big Story so that it sounds more legitimate that he really has a meteorite. As far as anyone knows he could have gone up on a ladder and dropped it onto the roof. The visions of fame and fortune and being on TV or in the paper seem to be making everyone find a meteorite in their yard these days. Even if it is a meteorite, which would be wonderful for him and I'd be very happy for him, there seem to be more and more stories of people finding meteorites in their own yard and none in the neighbors yard or surrounding area. This makes me think that some people are finding meteorites on someone else's private property or public property or BLM land, etc. and bringing them home and sticking them down in the dirt like they were hiding Easter eggs and claiming they have an amazing new meteorite that they just happened to have found after getting meteorite fever. I hope you can help him get it tested and that it is a meteorite, but I wouldn't hold my breathe on this one. One good thing you made the effort Bill to help him and took the time to drive over there and check it out. It's kind of your good deed of the day that you did for mankind. All the best. Brian --- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:52:59 -0500 From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: snt102-w462247d4adcb6adad5ad24a2...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I had an interesting call from a gentleman in Lombard Illinois. He has an 8 pound rock that bounced off his roof. After careful examination, I explained that it was probably not a meteorite but that it wasn't my place to discount the possibility entirely. I suggested he have a piece sliced and polished since he was so determined to know for sure. The question of how this rock got there is still kind of interesting. It did quite a bit of damage to his roof and ceiling but it didn't penetrate the old roof. I suggested, to muted ears, that a beast that size would have easily crashed through had it been falling at terminal velocity. There are three railroad lines near his home. Can anyone imagine how an ore car might launch an eight pound rock 5 blocks? Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Black-Market Trinkets From Space April 5, 2011
Darryl, That's an excellent letter you wrote and I know it certainly helped to get it published by you being in the city there and your background and knowledge of meteorites. Congratulations on getting your letter noticed to help all collectors. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks to Anne Black and others that wrote a rebuttal to Mr. Broad's NYT article
Thank you Anne for your wonderfully written rebuttal to the article written by Mr. Broad in the NYT and for contacting Dr. Agee and Dr. Harvey for their helpful information. It's great to know we can all feel with your letter and those of others that have been written that we have a voice to speak up and be heard. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT Story ? Overseas and Local Distribution
Paul and list, Thanks Paul for supplying the list with the various papers and websites that are carrying the NYT article. I was especially disappointed to see The American Scientist carrying the story with the first threw paragraphs and then when you click on see more it goes to the NYT website with the entire story and photos. I'm saddened that the American Scientist apparently didn't do any legwork to review the story or do any of their own research before blindly posting it. I'm guessing it doesn't take much anymore to call yourself a scientist in America or the world. I'm sure Ben Franklin, Thomas Alva Edison and Albert Einstein must be rolling over in their graves now. I have been preparing a response to the article in the NYT and as others have mentioned it may not do any good with the Times, but at this point it's gone almost viral worldwide. It's a pity that there aren't more responsible journalist out there. I fear as Adam Hupe and others have mentioned that the damage is done. This almost surreal smear campaign has taken on a life of its own and I'm still curious as to why the writer Mr. Broad with the NYT decided to chose his words so vehemently as to sound to critical and to apparently not give much thought as to the sensationalism of how be constructed the article nor to the outcome and repercussions of what would come to the meteorite community. Hoping for a better rest of the week and month after this. All the best! Brian -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 6:48:33 -0500 From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net Subject: [meteorite-list] NYT Story ? Overseas and Local Distribution To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 20110407074833.O0X65.28280.imail@eastrmwml37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 ?Overseas list members, if you have the opportunity, please peruse the International Herald Tribune to see if they picked up the story and run it in its entirety.? By searching the International Herald Tribune web site, I found that it was published in this newspaper on April 4 at: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?_r=1scp=1sq=meteoritesst=cse The entire story also appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald as ?Souvenirs from space,? April 7, 2011, http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html Also, it appeared at: 1. rssbroadcast,com, April 4, 2011 http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40828 http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40742 2. WA.today, Australia, April 6, 2011. http://www.watoday.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html 3. Yahoo News http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthAmexemObservers/message/10634 4. Daily Comet, Lafourche Parish Louisiana http://www.dailycomet.com/article/NY/20110405/ZNYT03/104053033/1225/news100?Title=Black-Market-Trinkets-From-Space 5. A version of the New York Times story, ?Il mercato nero dei meteoriti? appeared in the ?Post? on April 6, 2011, http://www.ilpost.it/2011/04/06/il-mercato-nero-dei-meteoriti/ This entire text of this article is making the rounds of the Internet. This is something that definitely needs to be considered in any response. It certainly will make preparing an effective response to the article quite difficult as it is being reprinted, in some cases under different titles and in different languages, in a wild range of media outlets. To further complicate matters, the link to this article is being posted a number of web sites. For example; 1. Egyptology News at: http://egyptology.blogspot.com/2011/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space.html 2. environmental reporting at: http://word.emerson.edu/sprg11jr364/2011/04/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space/ and 3. American Scientist http://www.americanscientist.org/science/pub/-1875 Yours, Paul H __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT story
Professor Agee, Thank you very much for coming onto the list and explaining your side of the story regarding your interview with the author of the story in the NYT. I certainly enjoyed reading your side of what you went through in the interview and it gave myself and I'm sure hundreds of others that read your post a better understanding of what the writer was interested in and that it seems to me that the author wasn't as interested in the facts that you gave him, but more in a sensationalistic story for Section D in Tuesday's paper. Thank you again for clarifying the misunderstandings that so many of us collectors had that love meteorites who were dumbfounded by the razor sharp barbs the writer used to lash out at our hobby and livelihood. Have a great day! Brian Cox Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:28:10 -0600 From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu Subject: [meteorite-list] NYT story To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: BANLkTi=2i-kl58mcb5thzqic1dsenez...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Since I am quoted in this article, here?s my reaction to it. The reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt and the legal meteorite trade (NWA) based primarily in Morocco. During the interview with him I spent a fair amount of time trying to explain to him how beneficial the NWA?s have been for planetary science research. For example, I mentioned how the number of rare Angrite meteorites has more than doubled due to African finds ? a huge enhancement to our understanding of the early solar system, and of course I mentioned all the lunars and martians, and other rare classes. I told him that I was not terribly well informed about the Gebel Kamil crater situation, but in my opinion the highest priority would be to protect the impact structure from degradation as these are quite rare on Earth. I also told him, that the Gebel Kamil meteorites on the other hand, are probably not hard to come by, and I?m sure if I wanted to study one for research, I could get a sample at a reasonable price or even get one as a donation from a collector, which museums benefit from frequently. I did get the feeling that he was hoping to hear something negative from me. As such he ended the interview rather quickly, but said something like ?oh, the NWA meteorites sounds like an interesting story, I need to come back to that at a later time?. So of course I was disappointed to see what mess the final NYT version was. -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://epswww.unm.edu/iom/pers/agee.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New York Times Article
Hi All, I'm just curious if anyone else has clicked on the author's name, William J. Broad under the title of the article, Black Market Trinkets From Space and waded through the thousands of articles that he has written alone or with up to four other writers. I went back to April 2009 and this is the first article I've found after searching through 15 long pages that has anything to do with Meteorites. The majority of his articles over the past 2 years have been in relationship to Nuclear Matters, such as Nuclear Arms in Iran, and most recently the Nuclear Plants in Japan. I'm curious why he even chose to write about Meteorites, and I am guessing that his editor told him to write it as a ( fill-in-piece ) for the boring $2.00 Tuesday paper, which doesn't get much circulation, since the majority of readers get the Weekender as you've seen advertised on TV with Friday, Saturday and Sunday or many people just get the Sunday Times. The bottom line seems to be that he's almost what you might call a Factory Line Writer that is given an assignment and then just rushes it out for print. I don't know this as a fact about him, but it is fairly clear, and this is a type of writing for many large papers, TV and radio and this is how it is done. I'm not standing up for him and this horribly written article so please no vicious emails, but just stating that he doesn't know anymore about meteorites than a 5 year old does about how to launch the Spacelab. It would be nice for him to write with an apology and corrections to his article, but I can't hold my breathe that long. I'm too old to wait for it and I'll probably be in my grave before that day comes. I feel the best way to handle this is to contact his editor or in the best case scenario the Editor in Chief to ask for a correction. The damage has unfortunately been done and we can't change what has already been so poorly written. All my best to all of you! Have a great day and may a meteorite land in your yard. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New York Times Article
Dirk and list, I think our best Media Face at this time certainly seems to be Geoff and Steve. Steve and Geoff do you think your producers would be able to fit a segment into your next show that deals with this perception of the Meteorite Community or even just a quick spot that states this is a legitimate hobby and that we are hard working honest people that love meteorites or something outstanding that would help to turn what this article had done into a positive view of us. I don't think this can wait much longer and needs to be addressed immediately. It would be a shame for this negative image to be spread out there in the world and that we're more than helpful in this hobby in assisting the scientific community and I think the sooner it's dealt with and squashed the better. My fear is that if we don't do something that bad stories and rumors will fly. If you guys are able to possibly even just add on a 30 second spot at the beginning or end of any of your reruns that it would help you guys and help all of us greatly. We definitely need good publicity and I don't want to put you guys on the spot and I know it's a lot to ask but if you could get your producers and the network to work something in I definitely feel that in the long run it would be great publicity for your show and would make sure you keep the viewers you have and hopefully bring in new viewers. All the best to everyone. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New York Times Article
Yes Dirk, you are correct, as always and I've said it before. You're smarter than the average bear. I'm sure with research someone could get his direct email, but the only way through the NYT is when you click on his name, and it asks if you want to send an email and you have to fill out the form online, that I went to the NYT website and copied it below here or anyone can go to the article and click on his name. https://myaccount.nytimes.com/membercenter/emailus.html Anne did say she tried to contact and speak with him but he was too busy. Yes, you are right, we're just blowing into the wind here. Thanks again, Brian -Original Message- From: drtanuki Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:36 AM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New York Times Article Brian and List, Do some research and find the reporter`s email and the other mis-quoted researcher that was from Tennessee and send your email to both of them AND this list. Bring this onto the metlist and have them discuss here. Posting to this list as a one-sided choir is pointless. As far as the NYT article, unless someone posts on the same scale the damage is done; perception as viewed by the public and the scientific community IS reality! Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- On Wed, 4/6/11, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New York Times Article To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 7:57 PM Hi All, I'm just curious if anyone else has clicked on the author's name, William J. Broad under the title of the article, Black Market Trinkets From Space and waded through the thousands of articles that he has written alone or with up to four other writers. I went back to April 2009 and this is the first article I've found after searching through 15 long pages that has anything to do with Meteorites. The majority of his articles over the past 2 years have been in relationship to Nuclear Matters, such as Nuclear Arms in Iran, and most recently the Nuclear Plants in Japan. I'm curious why he even chose to write about Meteorites, and I am guessing that his editor told him to write it as a ( fill-in-piece ) for the boring $2.00 Tuesday paper, which doesn't get much circulation, since the majority of readers get the Weekender as you've seen advertised on TV with Friday, Saturday and Sunday or many people just get the Sunday Times. The bottom line seems to be that he's almost what you might call a Factory Line Writer that is given an assignment and then just rushes it out for print. I don't know this as a fact about him, but it is fairly clear, and this is a type of writing for many large papers, TV and radio and this is how it is done. I'm not standing up for him and this horribly written article so please no vicious emails, but just stating that he doesn't know anymore about meteorites than a 5 year old does about how to launch the Spacelab. It would be nice for him to write with an apology and corrections to his article, but I can't hold my breathe that long. I'm too old to wait for it and I'll probably be in my grave before that day comes. I feel the best way to handle this is to contact his editor or in the best case scenario the Editor in Chief to ask for a correction. The damage has unfortunately been done and we can't change what has already been so poorly written. All my best to all of you! Have a great day and may a meteorite land in your yard. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Park Forest House Smasher
Hi Bill, I'm sure you'll do just fine when you meet to inspect the meteorite. You've had enough experience with it since it fell in 2003 and I'm sure you have specimens of Park Forest. Take them with you if you're suspicious to compare them to this new specimen, but, I really and honestly want you to take at least 2 people with you if you go over to their house or meet them someplace. Also, only meet them in a place with plenty of people around and not some dark area or out in the boonies along a road or something. It not only could be a hoax with a rock from a local gravel pit or quarry, but it may be a set up and they may intend to rob you since they'll think that you're bringing tens of thousands of dollars along. Just be careful and if it's real, then either do a Cashier's check and have them meet you at the bank where there are security cameras or do Paypal and make sure you have it in hand before you send the money though. Take it easy and I wish you the best of luck. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list] tatahouine
Oh my god, this is really uncalled for and sounds quite disturbing and borderline insane. Leave Steve, Jason, David and everyone alone. Art I think that 99.9% of the list want to file some sort of a complaint against these vile and outrageous vitriolic attacks. Good grief, and with pity that I or anyone has to write about this belligerent heathen anymore. Brian --- -Forwarded Message- From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 2, 2011 3:11 PM To: David renov8hot...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [off-list] tatahouine David aka Bozo Brain. Please insure your head is full of facts before running off a the mouth about things you haven't a clue about. I've never heard from you before so I must assume you are one of Steves's Special friends that only join the list to defend Stev and then disappears. If I run your ISP will it be the same as Steve's? or has Steveee caught on now? David if that is really who you are...Follow your own advice and mind your own business. Kiss Kiss, Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list] tatahouine
Carl, If you feel you need to defend his behavior that is your business. I don't think he's having just a bad day, he's had a bad night last night attacking Steve, again and again for something like the 3rd year in a row and also Jason. There was no need for his crazy and yes, insane comments to David either. I personally don't care if he's a brilliant scientist, that's no excuse for his speaking to David, and referring to David as being an imposter and really being Stevee. He has done that to other people claiming they aren't who they say they are and that they're pretending to be someone else. He has done that several times and that is just plain crazy. If you're insinuating that he's having a bad day because he's having some problem then he shouldn't be posting at all. You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine. I'm standing up for others, what are you doing? You're writing me to say I'm wrong . I'm standing up and telling him to leave others alone and telling Art he shouldn’t be allowed to do this. He has been warned many times. I stand up against the bully, but I guess that you are on the side of the bully and may be a bully yourself. Is this what this really boils down to? Brian -Original Message- From: cdtuc...@cox.net Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:21 AM To: Brian Cox ; meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [off-list] tatahouine Brian, Elton happens to be a brilliant scientist and is a very well respected member of the meteorite world and this list. When he is feeling better he offers countless benefits to this list. You obviously upset him with your unsolicited comments but, I would say that your 99.9 % number is in and of itself insane. Did Elton have a bad day? Yes. But that is all. We all have these days. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh my god, this is really uncalled for and sounds quite disturbing and borderline insane. Leave Steve, Jason, David and everyone alone. Art I think that 99.9% of the list want to file some sort of a complaint against these vile and outrageous vitriolic attacks. Good grief, and with pity that I or anyone has to write about this belligerent heathen anymore. Brian --- -Forwarded Message- From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 2, 2011 3:11 PM To: David renov8hot...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [off-list] tatahouine David aka Bozo Brain. Please insure your head is full of facts before running off a the mouth about things you haven't a clue about. I've never heard from you before so I must assume you are one of Steves's Special friends that only join the list to defend Stev and then disappears. If I run your ISP will it be the same as Steve's? or has Steveee caught on now? David if that is really who you are...Follow your own advice and mind your own business. Kiss Kiss, Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Newspaper Article - Brushy Creek Impact Crater and Paul Heinrich
Hi Dirk, Thanks for the info on the article. I hope you and your family are doing well and things are starting to get a little bit back to normal. Glad to see that you're on here and haven't lost any of your passion. Take it easy, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name (Impactika
Hello Blaine, Anne and Richard, list, Blaine, that's very unfortunate that you have to deal with hooligans who misrepresented information and added the Ni to your card when you wrote down the information for them. I'm sure you'll figure out a better way for yourself in the future and you've probably decided to never write anything on your card or with your name or information that morons like these characters can use fraudulently to discredit your good name. It's sad that we have to deal with a group of get-rich-quick greedy goofballs trying to run for office in our government let alone the same mentality of imbeciles trying to sell earth rocks as meteorites. I hope you get a response from ebay, but that fraudulent section on ebay auctions only generates an automatic response email to you and you can't reply back to it. I'll send you a separate email with a contact at ebay who can hopefully help you out. Have a great day and I hope the listing is pulled. All the best! Brian Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:39:26 -0600 From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [IMCA] Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name To: i...@imcamail.de Message-ID: 3dc5a4e8.db7b.4b9b.9aa4.d08abf569...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Members, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional idiots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks or your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes
Guido, You gave me the best laugh with the story of the loud horn that makes the animals feel like they just ate Ex-Lax !!! ;-) Hysterical! All the best, thanks for the stories. Brian - Count Deiro countdeiro at earthlink.net Sun Mar 27 01:30:17 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Thanks for the OK Fireball well-wishes Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I forgot to mention the field expedient method of deterring ill tempered and territorial horses. Next time guys...somebody brandish a coiled rope. Works like a charm. Also, while were at it...For other livestock I carry one of those small air horns. Makes cattle, sheep, goats, hogs and most dogs run away and poop while their doing it. Guido __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK Meteor
Either Rain, or Sleet, or Hail, or Snow, all of you Meteorite Hunters will always pack your gear ready to Go... Go... Go ! Good Luck out there in the field, and I do hope you find new meteorites! Always the best, Brian Message: 11 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:07:02 -0500 From: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK Meteor... To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: c06a2ebe-3b12-4e23-abac-ab9f77914...@meteoriteguy.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 41 degrees and high winds, drizzle about to turn to sleet, brutal here on the ground. Not for the weekend warrior types. Serious hunters only out here. They won't find themselves unfortunately. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Interest In Meteorites
Mirko, You made a great point about the EoM and that it links to the Met Bull is great also and I like that. Your English is very good also and myself and everyone understood what you meant. Yes, I agree with you about showing good photos and that crumbs or small fragments don't really help anyone to be able to distinguish one meteorite from another by just the small photos we see. We need close-up images and clear photos without any blur and with good lighting so we can all enjoy and learn. Your photos are always very nice. All the best to you always Mirko. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] American Meteorite Museum and Quiz
Hello Richard, Thanks very much for the additional information on the crash. You always have great info and it's interesting. All the best, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Japanese Tsunami relief effort auction
Hello Sonny, Thanks for having the auction for Japan. I know Dirk and others there appreciate it. I've been trying to donate as often as I can to The Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders. Thank you again and all the best to you and to those in Japan. I know that Dirk and his fellow countrymen appreciate all the effort. Take care, all the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
Great photo, thanks for sharing. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
Michael, Thanks for sharing another great picture. Always a pleasure. All the best, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner
Phil, You have definitely missed your calling. That has got to be one of the best spontaneous pieces of writing I've even seen on this list. You'd better get yourself an agent and start writing. There are shows to be written for Hollywood. Glad you pointed out for all the boys to get along and play fairly. Thanks for the words of wisdom and making me laugh. Oh, I don't know about the Cubs and the White Sox, that's a tough one. ;-) Take it easy, Brian Message: 12 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:42:39 -0400 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] OK dinner To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 6639694755EA4F489A85A4985F6F3E9C@ET Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It's about time you guys kissed and made up! (OK, a firm handshake will suffice!) The World's Most Famous Meteorite Hunter and the World's Greatest Meteorite Hunter should let bygones be bygones and at least share a cordial working relationship. By that I mean guest appearances on the show leading to a spinoff (The Mike Farmer Show). And while we're at it, howabout a Bob Haag show? Then a Meteorite Channel with all meteorites all the time featuring segments with Ted Bunch demonstrating how to use a microprobe, Marc Fries collecting stones in Antarctica, Captain Blood explaining once and for all what a hammerstone is.and on and on and on until the entire world unites in a unified quest for meteorites and a greater understanding of the Solar System and the Universe. There will be no time for wars and bloated military budgets as Arabs and Jews, Christians and Muslims, White Sox and Cubs fans will be out looking for meteorites together as a Brotherhood of Man. Then a realization will dawn upon humanity. The sun will die in a mere 5 billion years, leaving space migration as the only way for the human race to survive. _ Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner
Hi list, I'm sure if there has been anything found that the guys are keeping quiet about it for now. I wouldn't be telling the world, certainly not the news until they've got the area mapped out and found a good sum of specimens. The area is probably more remote than Mifflin, Wisconsin and far less populated than Park Forest, Illinois. I'm sure the guys don't want the Tulsa or Oklahoma City news people out there. Also, I certainly wouldn't depend on the news to get my news of a meteorite fall, most of them have no idea what a meteorite looks like or where it's from unless they watch Meteorite Men or follow the hobby. Most of them are too busy chasing other stories to get their face on TV and worrying about their appearance and advancing their careers. ;-) Remember every fall from Park Forest to Mifflin took the news at least a day or two to even report it and even then they all acted like it was unbelievable like an alien sighting, until someone from a major museum or university or a Meteorite Hunter verified the information. All the best to those out there in the fields. Let us know when you can what type you think it is and send photos when possible. thanks for keeping in touch. Brian - Message: 24 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:58:03 + From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com, meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 617725545-1301097406-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9526398...@bda2433.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Nothing has been found. Besides, I'm sure we would have seen reports in the news by now. Ryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner
Hi Greg, Thanks for the info about Mike and the gang. I know Mike is really good about contacting everyone and inviting them. He called me when Mifflin fell and told me that a few others were on their way and to get going up there. I did mean to say in my post that as you said everyone works well together as a team and I'm glad the guys and or girls out there are getting along and working together. It does help to have a team walking across the fields so that no inch is missed. Thanks again for the update! Hope you get to go and hunt! All the best! Brian Hey Brian and all... I've heard news and it wasn't from a friendly dinner invite. I heard news from 'boots on the ground' (or in the skies!). Mike Farmer called me in route, on the plane, of where they were going and, Where the hell are you, Greg?!. Simply put, family first, rocks second!! That said, I will put my money on people who call me and share 'before' they invite, that way all information is shared and enjoyed by those who can zero in on the strewnfield while going out in all directions as a team! Find one, two... on to the little fresh stones who decided to land on Planet Earth!! :) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Interest In Meteorites
Hi Mike and list, I really enjoyed reading what you had to say about the Encyclopedia of Meteorites Mike. It honestly makes sense about the number of photos taking up bandwidth and thanks to John also about bringing it up. I can't remember when anyone has mentioned about bandwidth usage on the site. I'm sure as you said that would be one heck of a large bill. There must be some guidelines or something that is being done to keep the bill within reason. I'm glad it's still free and I'm sure they've thought about the number of photos, but at least there is interest in it and it's growing. Thanks for discussion. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Whitecourt irons w/ find coords export
Beautiful Specimens Gary, I'll give them a look over and decide later if I can part with any bills for you for my section of the house marked Big Kahuna Meteorites. thanks for the link, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: **** 354g Allende ****
Bob, That's a beautiful Allende I do admit. Problem is, I just don't have room for it. Also, I only have one kidney and don't want to sell the other for another meteorite. Good luck with it. Would love to keep it in one piece, but someone just might cut it up and sell it into smaller specimens. All the best, Cheers, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ethics question?
Richard, Bill, Barrett and List, Personally if a meteorite were glued together I'd want to know, but I'm positive I could tell it were glued together. Now, to be honest with you, unless the person was an expert at gluing meteorites, I'm sure most people could tell it was glued, I would think. If you had a great deal of experience at gluing Native American or Pre-Columbian artifacts and or stone or metal objects together most people could tell that also, and in any case you should always advise someone it's glued if you were selling it. I would think most people selling their meteorites at that point would sell them separately and they would probably make more money selling the separate pieces than as a whole. As you know every year the specimens are getting smaller and smaller, and then you're down to micro-mounts and dust. I recently bought a decent crumb, about 144 mg of New Concord that I can see and a 19 mg Weston, which is just too small honestly for me, and I'd rather have a 1 gram piece but none were available. We all know dealers buy meteorites and break them down to smaller and smaller specimens and they make more money per specimen that way, since it's more money per mg or gram. This is also helpful to beginners or those not wanting to spend a great deal of money and for those who want to have a specific meteorite in their collection and the small specimens do allow this. I recently bought eleven very nice meteorites ( 9 separate names) and there were 2 pieces of Agoult that fit together that were sold separately, a 1.6 gm and 1 gram piece. I was happy with them, and the seller made more money probably than if they hadn't been broken and sold as a 2.6 gram specimen. I also bought his 2 Bruderheim pieces, a 9.7 gm and a 1.0 gm piece that fit together like a puzzle. I'm happy, and they look nice, and if I sell them I'll probably sell them separately too since again if they broke accidentally or were broken to sell separately and to make more money, either way is fine. I bought them and someone else will also. Honesty is the best policy. Take care and may a large Lunar or Martian Meteorite fall into your yard today. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mani vs Arnold Verdicts
Steve, thank the jury first, since they are the ones that decided the verdict. Then thank the judge just out of kindness. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS! I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance. Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update. Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news.. All my best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, but won't be buying from HIM anymore.. -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok .. I take it that's a no. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Have you taken your medication today? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS! I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance. Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update. Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news.. All my best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has taught you something. Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play this game. I'm all up for it! Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize to the list on his behalf. Ryan Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, but won't be buying from HIM anymore.. -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok ... I take it that's a no. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Have you taken your medication today? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS! I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance. Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Is that a threat?? Glad I sold it and made some money, even though you got a cheap price on it. So, what is your problem writing me and complaining to me? are you coming to visit me? Gonna kill me or just beat me up? -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:22 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Just keep in mind, I still have your address from that Agoult slice that I bought from you. Boystown, Chicago... correct? Glad I saved it. And by the way, I'm not a Republican. That's what happens you're crabby and assume things. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:00:44 To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has taught you something. Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play this game. I'm all up for it! Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize to the list on his behalf. Ryan Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, but won't be buying from HIM anymore.. -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok I take it that's a no. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Have you taken your medication today? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint
[meteorite-list] Fw: Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
You are a character Ryan, you sent me a different email after you took out the part about saying you have my address and you saying you were glad you saved it. Then you are saying that I am editing and forging emails. No, no, no Ryan Pawelski, you removed your text, but I already responded to your comment about having my address. This is what I responded to earlier, where I asked you, Ryan ,Is that a threat? , so then you take that portion out and send it to the Met List. It would be best if you stop writing me and stop writing the list and you should have just kept your fingers off the keys and minded your own business and then you wouldn't have gotten into this discussion, now would you. -Original Message- From: Brian Cox Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:28 PM To: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok (I asked you here Ryan) Is that a threat?? Glad I sold it and made some money, even though you got a cheap price on it. So, what is your problem writing me and complaining to me? are you coming to visit me? Gonna kill me or just beat me up? -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:22 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Just keep in mind, I still have your address from that Agoult slice that I bought from you. Boystown, Chicago... correct? Glad I saved it. And by the way, I'm not a Republican. That's what happens you're crabby and assume things. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:55 PM To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok I am hereby reminding you to never reply to any of my emails, but apparently you don't listen or haven't figured that out. -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:54 PM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't even reply back... but editing and forging emails and reposting them to a public forum is a big no-no. Doing such activities could land you in legal trouble in situations other than this unimportant tirade of yours. Please remind me to never reply to any of your ridiculous emails in the future. Regards, Ryan Pawelski Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:00:44 To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has taught you something. Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play this game. I'm all up for it! Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize to the list on his behalf. Ryan Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, but won't be buying from HIM anymore.. -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok I take it that's a no. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM To: Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Have you taken your medication today? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry
[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Do I know you Paul Swartz? Who are you, why are you emailing me? Are you a meteorite collector or just someone reading the list and didn't like my post. Are you in the IMCA? Why are you stalking and harassing me? Does anyone know this guy? -Original Message- From: valpar...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Or, apparently, think straight. Paul Swartz I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CNN at 7:12PM Eastern US Time, Saturday March 12, 2011, stated there is no proof of a Meltdown, but they are handing out Iodine Tablets
Just heard on CNN that they cannot verify for sure if there is a MELTDOWN in Japan with the reactors, but that the Government is passing out Iodine Tablets to everyone within 20 miles of the reactor and that may affect 70,000 people in the area. This is being done as a precaution, but they said they do NOT know for sure if there is an actual melton at this point. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
The Murchison Meteorite at 535.9 grams from The Macovich Collection. Estimate: $42,500 - up, has a reserve bid of $32,500.00 USD. The floor auction is June, 11, 2011. http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046 Enjoy, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Just heard on TV and online that the earthquake in Japan was upgraded to 8.9 from 8.8 with 10 meter Tsunamis off the coast. I hope Dirk and others we know in Japan are alright. All the best. Brian http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42023385/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?gt1=43001 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dirk is alright
Tomasz Jakubowski just told me that he spoke with Dirk and that Dirk is ok. Thanks to Tomasz for letting me know, so I thought I'd pass it along. All the best to Dirk and everyone in Japan. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
Anne and all, This first listed specimen looks a lot like Snowflake Obsidian notice the gray oval spots on it in one of the 3 photos. Some of the other specimens look like slag also. He's the High Roller and has many feedback on his Campo and some Wabar iron. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Valera affidavit and 1cm cubes
Hi all about Valera, and Greg about the 1cm cubes, Yes, Google is the best to look for anything these days. I was looking Valera up and then saw Shawn's post with it. Believe me, google saves everything searched, that's why if you google your name or your web site or any user ID you've ever had, it's on google. Kind of an invasion of privacy I think, but that's the world we live in. Greg, I have some of the cubes, but unfortunately these don't have the 1cm on them. I'd rather have those too! They are Drake Damerau cubes and are made from 6061T6 aluminum, and anodized to a military grade spec. The letters are filled in with baked enamel. He told me last year that he saw the one he sold Steve Arnold on “Meteor Hunters” one day last Spring 2010. He thought it was the “Tucson Meteorite” episode. They showed a picture of his find next to one of his cubes. You can always tell it’s a “Drake Cube” when you see the dot next to the N. All other cubes made have a small line next to the N, not the dot. I'll send you a photo of mine, and you can always write Drake if you want. I just wrote him a few minutes ago to ask him if he has made any with the 1cm on them. P.S. is anyone else noticing so many of the posts being incredibly long. I think maybe some are replying from the list email instead of a separate new email which is what we should use. It's pure hell trying to read these on a cell phone when you have to scroll through the whole list of 20 posts and some with the entire previous 20 posts attached under their one post. Always send a new email page with the subject and attach the post you are talking about if you want. It's much easier on all then to have the entire list of all posts to scroll down through. All the best! Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
Brian Schroeder, Warren and all you other blokes!! ;-) Brian, Thanks for sharing the info about the NATURAL MINERAL SPECIMEN HC # 7103.10.00.00 Harmonized code. I remember you telling us about this a couple of years ago or maybe longer, and when you mentioned that you'd been working in shipping it rang a bell. Thanks again for this code. I've now saved a file and printed it for future use. It's very much appreciated by me and all the others I'm sure. Warren and Gary, on the issue of you at first hand printing the customs form, which I normally have done in the past and then changing to the ebay printed format, did the printed ebay format have some errors on it or is it just too difficult for customs agents or shipping agents to understand? I gathered that there was something wrong with the ebay new format on their form, but you didn't mention exactly what it was or perhaps my old brain being filled with useless info could not decipher what you said. Let us all know. Hope things work out, and yes, I'm sure the Brits and everyone will be much happier with you. It has amazed me over the past few years that where a few years ago so many meteorites sold by U.S. collectors were only being sold to other U.S. dealers and collectors to now where there is much more of an international group that is buying from the U.S. We're not only all over the universe out in space, but International as well ;-) Have a wonderful, happy and safe day filled with cloud free skys and may a meteorite land in your yard today! Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
Thanks Jeff, What the heck should we use? Now, after you pointed this out, I don't want to use any HC-Harmonized Code. I do remember that code 7103 and 7102 from before and now I think about it, I actually didn't use it since I was afraid it would get someone's attention who might want to steal gemstones or in the case of 7102 ,which is for any kind of diamonds, rough, unworked or simply sawn, etc. If you look under http://hts.usitc.gov/Table%2025.xml it gives you every kind of other rock, asbestos, sandstone, cement etc., but nothing really that seems perfect for meteorites. I looked up the 7102 on the http://hts.usitc.gov and it gave 20 categories, all of the rough diamond listings below. I don't think we should use those either, since someone might think they're rough diamonds and turn into a mole and swallow them at the shipping company or the Customs Department. If they swallow Murchison they might turn into a Super Human or an Alien. ;-) Thanks, Brian Cox Search Results 20 Results Returned 7102 Diamonds, whether or not worked, but not mounted or set: 7102.10. Unsorted 7102.21 Industrial: 7102.21 Unworked or simply sawn, cleaved or bruted: 7102.21.10 Miners' diamonds 7102.21.1010 Carbonados 7102.21.1020 Other 7102.21.3000 Other: 7102.21.3000 Simply sawn, cleaved or bruted 7102.21.4000 Other 7102.29.00 Other 7102.29.0010 Miners' diamonds: 7102.29.0010 Carbonados 7102.29.0020 Other 7102.29.0050 Other 7102.31. Nonindustrial: 7102.31. Unworked or simply sawn, cleaved or bruted 7102.39.00 Other 7102.39.0010 Weighing not over 0.5 carat each 7102.39.0050 Weighing over 0.5 carat each __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] customs holding packages
Warren, this VAT-Value Added Tax has been a big discussion and a pain in the EU-European Union for the past few months, especially heavily discussed since Europeans and people in other countries are complaining more about it. Things were bad enough shipping to Italy and their pony express method of delivering snail mail, and thus now most sellers on ebay won't ship to Italy and most shippers from everywhere in the world don't want to ship to Italy because it's so slow there, but now you have this added VAT and it's a real pain. Many ebay sellers as you know state in the auctions they won't ship to Italy and now I'm seeing many more not shipping to Mexico. I gave up on DHL 5 years ago since I would order products from St Martin/St Marteen and they always went to their god awful headquarters along the Kentucky/Ohio border. Twice they opened the package and then DHL charged me between $65-$100 because Bubba and his cousin Larry and his brother Larry and his other brother Larry didn't like something comin' from no gosh dang country that had a French flag flyin' from it, since them frogs didn't help the U.S. of A. fight in Iraq and Bubba and the Larrys wouldn't eat none of them dang French fries. You get my drift and you know my sense of humor. Yes, folks in France and those that don't know me, I am making a joke about how people talk and act along the Ohio River area of Cincinnati, Ohio where DHL has its large hub, but it's true. I think they really didn't like that island or St. Barts since they have been rumored to stop packages written in French at the DHL hub. I gave up buying from St. Martin and just bought from the warehouses or stores in the U.S. that carried their products. Your best bet is, as has always been done, Mineral for research $5. Have a great day! BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The
Don and Steve, You may have already found this or gotten an answer to your question. I Googled, (always the best way to find anything) Red Devil Lye, and it gives several websites to buy similar products. Try these, 50 LBs of lye-Sodium Hydroxide for $65.00 USD, or 2 LBs $5.95. http://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?query=%2Bsodium+%2Bhydroxideaffiliate_pro_tracking_id=17:23: Hope you get your solution made up. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Policies
I agree with Tracy and Michael regarding announcing the absentee bids during the auction, that absentee bids should NEVER be announced. Falling Fusion asked it as a neutral question for anyone to answer pro or con, but those watching through the live stream and those in the room have all mentioned they didn't think it was right to announce those amounts. I was watching via the online feed and everyone was able to post comments real time in the chat area to the right of the streaming video. There were a LOT of Unhappy People who had put in absentee bids and were upset that they were announced before the auction commenced. I've bid through several live online Auction Houses such as Heritage Auction House and if they ever gave out the absentee bids or any Houses such as Christie's or Sotheby's ever gave out absentee bid amounts and announced those before an auction, they'd all be bankrupt with lawsuits. Let's make sure next year that those PRIVATE absentee bid amounts, are indeed kept PRIVATE! Have a great day! Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ruben, thanks for putting the live stream together. Can we have live auction bidding next year?
Hi Ruben, I want to thank you for working so hard on putting the live Blood auction together. It was great and made me feel like I was there in the room. It would be great if there was a way to work out live online bidding like they do at Heritage Auction house and some of the others. Sound and video were great and very entertaining. You did great work. Thanks, Brian Cox IMCA# 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you Michael Blood for a great auction and I thank Ruben also. Can we have a LIVE auction next year?
Hi Michael, I want to thank you for a great auction and I'm very happy you worked with Ruben on this. It was great and made me feel like I was there in the room. It would be great if there was a way to work out live online bidding like they do at Heritage Auction house and some of the other auction houses. Thanks, Brian Cox IMCA# 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Has anyone contacted the seller with the Apollo Moon Rock or if they have did they get a response back from him? I would think that since he has 100% feedback and has 4.8 out of 5 on Item as Described and 4.9 of 5 on Communication, Shipping Time and Shipping and handling charges that he might honestly think he as a REAL Moon Rock, plus he's got 989 feedback in just 2 years. That Purple 70s Carpet he has it photographed on is a sight for a 70s flashback movie, but I think he needs some direction. If he had 15 feedbacks and was selling really crazy off the wall stuff I would think he was a con artist, but just might need some help and direction in this case. One other thing that bothers me about anything sold for a high price is the ebay/paypal rule on refunds, without returns, that so many of my seller friends are complaining about. Many I know that don't sell meteorites complain that the ebay/Paypal refund policy is if the buyer contacts Paypal and even says the item was not exactly as described even if it's a minor scratch, etc., that Paypal will refund their money and let the buyer keep the item and not return it like they used to do a year or so ago and in the past. Sellers are really getting screwed in this case. I know people that will only sell any item over $2,000 on their website or some other way. Everyone have a great day and those in Tucson, I hope it warms up for you. All the best! Cheers! Brian Cox IMCA #6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
p.s. Sorry, folks, on the Apollo Moon rock, I meant to also say that perhaps he's selling it for someone else, which seems to be common these days and he has no idea of the rules and regulations of Not owning or Not selling a NASA moon rock. Also, he may have been conned into buying it and believes it's a true moon rock and has no idea about any laws, and thinks it's legist. Either way, he probably needs some help, direction and needs explained that he is doing something illegal. Take care, Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
p.s.s. I need to correct my previous statement about the refunds on eBay. I just called eBay and was told if an item is $50 or less, the eBay rep said they will pay the buyer the amount and let them keep the item, just to avoid time and hassles. This means eBay is footing the amount, and it doesn't come out of the seller's account. So, basically as per the eBay rep, anything over $50 they still require it sent back and then when proof is given by the buyer such as a Post Office confirmation, then the refund is given. Now, I do want to make a statement here on behalf of the seller I know and several others who are into the 15,000 to 30,000 range, that often they will get a package back, and it contains ROCKS or other JUNK and they have not been able to prove to eBay/PayPal that the buyer didn't send the item back since it's based on a confirmation or shipping number. Now, also, two of these friends will take a box returned by a seller directly to the Post Office and open it there at the window in front of a Post Office employee so they have a witness and I believe they may also then be able to file a complaint with the Post Office. Just wanted to clear that since Carl alerted me to my statement about no returns and I wanted to clarify that. Thanks, Brian Cox IMAC #6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite the floats??
I'm sure everyone that has looked at the Amazing floating meteorite auction has also looked at his other items up for sale. With only 3 feedbacks he's not going to get many positive feedbacks with his prices this high, for soap stone carvings starting around $500 and a gold 2 1/2 dollar coin starting at $2,000, which he found in the Yuba River in N. California, plus the eagle head knife which he found also in the Yuba River. I imagine he's a camper/hiker or has a cabin up there and most likely prospects for gold since I'm only guessing, but he has an old time scale on the table behind him in the gold coin photo. I blew up the photo of the gold coin and I was trying to make out what his wedding band said, but either it's a design, or just chipped pretty badly. I thought it might be a Native American design, but it's not one that I've never seen before. The sad thing is that at the end of all his auctions ebay gives the links to other auctions in that category as part of their search for the most watched and of course the coin gives other seller's coins, the knife gives other seller's knives, and the meteorite gives other meteorites auctions and although this is good for other sellers it kind of ties all sellers in with this guy. As others have mentioned ebay is making money, and probably has no clue, and believe me I've called them in the past and when you say Meteorites all they say is Really? wow, that's cool! or that's interesting or that's a different category I haven't had before and there are no experts at ebay on much of anything. They are just your typical underpaid customer service reps just getting by with what barely above minimum wage amount ebay is paying. Now, there is a thought that came to me, but it may not be popular, but I am just mentioning it, so don't anyone jump all over me, since I'm not about to argue or debate it with anyone, since I highly doubt ebay will even do it, at least in the near future, but if anyone wants to propose it to ebay then grab it and run with it to them. As with most large scale collecting fields they have various different categories. Let's say coins, you have to put your coins into the different categories of U.S. coins, Foreign coins and then I think maybe even different countries, but I'm not going to check all this now since I'm using it as an example and what I remember. You have either circulated or uncirculated, Proof coins, paper currency, tokens, commemorative coins, and then on and on and then the various years of coins, say from 1760-1820, 1940-1970, etc. again, I'm just guessing since I'm not going to spend 20 minutes going through ebay to prove this to anyone, just look for yourselves. There are categories for stamps, Barbie Dolls, Hot Wheels for example 1968-1972 or something like that and 2000 to present, etc. again, just going by memory. So, my point is that if ebay actually were to try to put meteorites into categories, much more than just what they have today as in tektites and meteorites, etc. then we would all be looking for meteorites from perhaps, and remember this is just an example that I'm going with the flow here. U.S. meteorites, Russian meteorites, Moroccan meteorites, Canadian meteorites, French meteorites, etc. (don't anyone feel left out now if I didn't put your country in ;-) ) and then got really crazy and started categories for falls and finds and then with or without chondrules or iron or stony irons or pallasites or desert glass, etc. I think you all get my drift, then they could always say, ok, you have to prove that this meteorite is over 1 year old, or 100 years old or 1 billion years old etc. and then they could also say category for under 1 gram, 1-5 grams 6-10 grams. I can go on forever with this, so, again, no criticizing me, since I'm just playing with this. Anyhow, my point is, that some of these categories may be good since it could honestly cut down on the clowns putting stuff up, and make it easier for buyers to find meteorites or related meteorite items, etc, but then again it's going to be something that sellers most likely may not like, but then again they might. Everyone have a wonderful day and enjoy it and life in general. All the best to you Good meteorites folks all around the world and the universe too. Oh, and yes, can't leave out the Aliens. Just kidding, that was a joke you know, well, not really. ;-) heheeheheheheee Brian Cox Officially an IMCA member # 6387 ;-) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite the floats??
Just to piggyback on what I mentioned earlier about anyone interested enough, who has the time and the energy, (Not me!) to contact ebay about setting up categories for meteorites, I did want to mention the old saying: Be Careful What You Wish For since it May Open a Can of Worms in the sense, that we may be categorized to death on something like that. Now, not to leave out my Aussie friends, Jeff let's say it's a Miles Meteorite, which has been one of my favorites. It's beautiful and I had quite a bit of it and sold most of it. Some of you lucky blokes and lasses may have gotten a piece of it. So, for example, if ebay says: If it's an Australia meteorite you have to put which territory it was found in. So, in that case we either put Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia, Northern Territory, South Australia and throw Tasmania in there also for where the meteorite was found or fell and picked up, etc. you know what I mean. Then for Miles it would be put into the Queensland category where it was found. Now, what if the meteorite was found on the border of 2 or 3 of the areas, then you would put it in each of those. Now, for example in the America, it could get quite sticky. What if ebay says you have to fill out your seller's form with the correct state. Ok, that sounds great actually. Then what if they say, ok put the county in also. Then we might have overlapping counties, such as the Mifflin meteorite in Southwestern Wisconsin, which was found with pieces in Grant County near Livingston and then across into Iowa County to Mifflin and the surrounding area. So in this case you have two counties you need to fill out for your ebay sale for the Mifflin meteorite. We then in the future may be filling out the ebay auction as Mifflin meteorite, a witnessed fall going across the sky, and since it hit a farmer's shed and bounced and he picked it up, then it's under the fall category and all other Mifflin meteorites would be under fall and not the Found category. It would be put in the state of Wisconsin in Grant and Iowa counties. It would be put in the year 2009 and then who knows ebay might want the month and day also. I'm just breaking this down for you folks. So, if meteorite faker # 1 and faker # 2, and faker # 3 all say they have a meteorite to sell, like the guy in Nevada then he's got to put it into a category of let's say a find and let's say Clark County, in the state of Nevada. Now as far as category for iron, stony iron, chondrite or pallasite, etc. then since old faker # 1 has no idea what kind of a meteorite it is, then he couldn't fill that out, unless ebay puts in a category called, Unknown ah yes, the mysterious gray area of unknown. Anyhow, I have to get off the computer and do some shopping, so you folks can play around with this idea to crack down on the fakers on ebay and in general rid the world of dishonest meteorite buyers in your free time. On your way to the rescue all your Meteorite Super Heroes!!! I need my Starbucks Mocha decaf!!! Have a great day, and a great evening to those in the Eastern Hemisphere. All the best. ;-) Brian Cox Imca # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite the floats??
Yes, Martin and Murray you are right that ebay may try to regulate meteorite selling too much and to extremes. I do agree with a simple tweaking of their categories as you both mentioned, and as I mentioned I was just going with the flow on this and making suggestions on the moment and wasn't casting them in stone, but just throwing them out there. This of course would need a great deal of input and tweaking to make it work and to finalize it, but of course someone must first start with ebay to even get them half way interested in the idea since they don't normally pay much attention to buyers or sellers. It would take some pressure to get them to sit down and listen to our ideas for improvements since they enjoy having panels of employees brain storm and get overpaid for most of their suggestions and changes. They do however sometimes bring in sellers and buyers for ideas and with the big time sellers in the meteorite field I think they might possibly take some suggestions if they were bombarded with suggestions so to speak with cleaning up their meteorite search. I also dislike weeding through 5,000 meteorite auctions that include make-up, watches and other things that have meteorite in the name. I remember 10 years ago when I first started collecting in 2000 when on ebay you typed in meteorite and it came up with between 500-800 as a total and that even included that crazy meteorite brand make-up and I don't think there were any watches in 2000. Ah yes, times they have changed. Have a great evening everyone. Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Auctions on The Heritage Auction site
Here is a link to the Heritage Auction site that have several meteorites on it up for auction. They're interesting, if to just look at the specimens. Some don't have any bids at all and some have a few. Just in case you don't have anything to do today and want to take a look. Enjoy the day! Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Auctions on The Heritage Auction site
Here is a link to the Heritage Auction site that have several meteorites on it up for auction. They're interesting, if to just look at the specimens. Some don't have any bids at all and some have a few. Just in case you don't have anything to do today and want to take a look. Enjoy the day! Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6045Lot_No=41209type=bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spectacular Tektite on eBay
Hi Richard and list, Thanks for bringing this beautiful tektite to our attention..(..AUSTRALITE: Tektite, Meteorite from Western Australia..330458934895.) although I nearly had a stroke when I saw the priceWOW!!! $2,000.00 Aussie dollars, $1,830.80US dollars. Is this someone we know? I don't recognize the seller Abba45 and there is no mention of belonging to any group like the IMCA. If I may quote here from her/his auction: Fully flanged buttons are very rare and a flawless one is worth anywhere between $2000 - $5000 depending on size, shape and condition. I think it's very nice, but at only 4.2 grams I wouldn't pay that much unless it weighed about 200 pounds. ;-) Have a great clear sky night and may a beautiful rare and expensive meteorite fall into your yard tonight. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spectacular Tektite on eBay
On this beautiful tektite, I stand corrected. I've been told it could go for up to $5,000, perhaps more due to the quality of it.. I'll keep my big mouth shut now. It is beautiful, and I assume the price is determined not only by the market, but on the quality and rarity of such an item. Good luck to the seller and I hope it goes for many thousands. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged tektite prices (Was: Spectacular Tektite on eBay)
Hello List, As I read all of the posts about the discussion of Tektite prices.all I can do is hang my head. :-( Another good investment that I didn't pay any attention to. I honestly never really liked the look of most of them and thought the dumbbells were kind of cool, but was a little baffled since I was only interested in meteorites and Libyan Desert Glass and some other impact glass. The flanged tektites I must admit always reminded me of marbles with a Saturn ring around them Too bad I didn't buy them back 10 years ago when they were a little less.. Just think, $1,000-$2,000-$5,000 USD wouldn't be a bad return on something for $700-900 back then. Ah, such is life! ;-) All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scott Brey
Hi Chris, I tried to get in touch with Scott a couple of years ago and my emails came back also. I had bought a few thousand dollars worth of meteorites back 6-7 years ago and wanted to check with him if he had a certain meteorite I was looking for. He always had fair prices and a great selection. What was odd was that some of the meteorites I'd bought from him, were still pictured on his website with the price I paid from 6 years ago. I thought that was odd he didn't update the site, but thought he must have gotten busy and completely left collecting and selling. Someone even wrote me about a meteorite I'd sold them which I'd given them the COA from Scott and asked if it was the same meteorite on Scott's website. I checked and sure enough it was there. I am not sure what happened to him, but think someone on the list had said he had stopped collecting, but that is all I know about him. Seems he kind of vanished off the face of the earth. I hope he is well and that his family is well also. Just as long as we don't hear he was abducted by aliens and was beamed up and has been missing for all this time. Have a great night!! all the best!! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Meteorite Magazine Accepts PayPal
Maria, Thanks for the info. You are always on top of things and have all the pertinent information available and at hand. I do have one question. Since you aren't able to accept farm animals in any form and I did want to pay with 3 cows or 6 lambs, then would you be willing to trade 2 dogs and 1 cat for a year's subscription? LOL '-) Thanks again for giving us info. I was actually thinking when I saw your post that it was time for IMCA dues and I was ready to go to Paypal for that. I will be looking forward to that email near the end of the year for our IMCA dues, due by January 2011. Take care and all the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Show 2011
Hi All, What are the dates of the Tucson show? I want to start on my reservations to visit Arizona. thanks, Brian IMCA# 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Mars Odd Theme, and other various Mars related subjects
Look, Squirrel, Run !!! ;-) heheheehehehhahahahahahaaa! Focus!!! IQ! Mensa Martians in houses??!!??? I watched 8 hours of TV today, listened to 5 hours of radio, played 2 CDs, was on the computer 5 hours, walked for 4 hours, and read a newspaper at Starbucks I'm also buying the latest Charlaine Harris, True Blood Sookie Stackhouse Series book coming next week! My head hurts! Anyone got an Excedrin? Ooops, no that has caffeine, can't have it, high blood pressure. On a different Note, a.k.a. A Different Subject Pleeaase Anything new about the Wisconsin meteorite? Anyone got any plans for the Denver Show, Anne? Anne? Anne? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Anything planned for Tucson? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? New Subject line please. Thanks, gotta run! Brian ;-) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite resemble the new WI meteorite. Supuhee sure does..
Hi Joe and List, You did great research here, Joe. Those 2 photos on the metbull certainly do look like the Wisconsin-Iowa/Grant County meteorite. Excellent, makes me appreciate how beautiful the Wisconsin is after seeing those photos. It'll be very exciting when the Wisconsin appears in the Metbull! All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
Darren and James, With all due respect, and I'm not picking sides here or trying to get in between either of you nor to correct anyone, but the article that Darren quoted from on books sales is an article by Robyn Jackson, from Copyright 2003 Seven years ago. I thought the facts were rather odd and out of date, since no one listens to 3 hours of radio anymore, not even old me with my oldies, since everyone is on their ipod. If I see someone with a CD player attached to their arm it's only because they're running along the lake, and most have switched to ipods, and most people barely watch 4 hours of TV anymore. It didn't give any stats on computer use since 7 years ago not everyone had one. The article from University of Dayton: Erma Bombeck's Writer's Workshop, is sorely outdated, since Erma, rest her soul has been Dead since April 22, 1996. I'm sure the book stats have changed, but with the computer and internet, which that ancient 2003 article Didn't even mention is where most people get their news these days (I haven't bought a newspaper in two years) and people read more online or with their kindle or their ipad than a real book. Then Darren's point is valid that books just don't sell like they used to unless someone is lying on a beach on vacation or takes one into a restaurant or coffee shop or on the train or bus going to work. Believe me, I live in downtown Chicago and I get a warm soft spot in my heart when I actually see someone with a book going to work or someplace. I love the smell of a book, nothing like that, brings back grade school, simpler times I guess. Everyone else is on their iphone or Crackberry reading, texting and web surfing. Don't feel bad Darren, you were making a good point, and James, don't give up, there are ebooks and you may try that route with your book through an online publisher. I wish you both the best. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One Year Ago
Thank you very much Bernd for reminding all of us that Richard passed just one year ago. I think that many of us wouldn't even be on this list if not for the great contributions he had made and all the information that we have learned from him. I'm sure he's out in the Cosmos enjoying a close-up view of amazing Asteroids. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Janesville, Wisconsin Meteorite Monday May 10, 2010
Here's another article on the May 10, 2010 possible meteorite..this from the Milwaukee paper online... several posts here, one guy I recognize...;-) Of course, the fist post, on the bottom, is from some religious Nut.who thinks it's The End of Days some people really need to get out more and stop watching the 700 channel and other greedy bible thumping televangelists. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin----The next Sahara, the NEW NWA, forget Australia
On a light-hearted note, to those that know me, I have a keen sense of humor and a happy personality, unless someone is rude or acts ignorant towards me. Regarding the recent talk of the Sahara drying up for meteorites and being hunted/mined out and that Australia is the new Sahara. I think Wisconsin will be the new area to find Meteorites..at this rate if there is verification of this new fall. Don't worry, be happy folks! ;-) Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Janesville, Wisconsin Meteorite Monday May 10, 2010
I may be late on this, just read it. Reports of another meteor, this time near Janesville, Wisconsin..near the Wisconsin/Illinois border. That's closer to me, Terry Boudreaux and Joe Kerchner and Chicago Steve Arnold than the Mifflin/Mineral Point, Wisconsin meteorite. Ok, Jana and John and Mike Farmer, Dave Schultz and everyone, head back to Chicago O'Hare. ;-) Come on boys, we've got a new meteorite to look for!! ye-haaa!!!;-) http://www.wrex.com/global/story.asp?s=12457592 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New position on hunting BLM lands
I'm enjoying the information you fine collectors are putting on here as I learn something new everyday. I thought I'd toss my two cents in there as an f.y.i. An acquaintance who has a mining claim on BLM is not able to mine the claim now that the entire area in California has been practically sealed off and the local sheriffs and BLM personnel won't allow anyone onto it. There were first concerns of people dumping their old rehabbing projects from homes being rehabbed (Imagine that, someone dumping on BLM land) and the dangers of asbestos. Then, environmental groups, which I generally always support were questioning the safety of the water table and the native salamanders and various native plant species. The bottom line is that the BLM decided with all this going on that the easiest way was to close it down entirely, no more dumping of possible asbestos materials and no danger to the native flora and fauna. My guess is that similar situations will be occurring throughout the West, if they have not already been put into place or are in the works. Have a great day! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New to list
Henry, Welcome to the list. There are a large group of great people on here. Have fun and learn, just like I'm still learning. Enjoy! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New position on hunting BLM lands
hi folks, Just a follow up on the hunting on BLM and National and State, County, City Parks, etc. Beware of hunting on military areas also. I'm sure all of us have common sense to not be walking around on Military Property and hunting for rocks, Native American artifacts or meteorites. Remember Area 51 and gunmen on the ridge, etc. Twenty-Nine Palms Marine Corps Base, Edwards Air Force Base, Vandenberg Air Force Base and Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range in California. Oh, and China Lake Naval Weapons Center also, but I can't tell you about that one since it involves Aliens and things I still don't remember, nor care to remember or relive. ;-) Nellis Air Force Base Bombing and Gunnery Range in Nevada and Test Site and you know where the others are in your states. It would be unwise to go into any type of restricted or military area to hunt for anything without receiving special permission and most preferably have it documented on paper for your own hassle free safety. Just some wise words to protect yourselves while out hunting in the deserts and wild open spaces. All the best, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New position on hunting BLM lands
Hi Yinan, Thanks for refreshing my memory on the mining claim that the prospectors filed on the land. I was in high school and remember reading that they were not allowed to take the Old Woman meteorite as she sat in between the boulders on that rocky area because it was not a locatable mineral. That brings back memories and clarifies the reason that it went to the Smithsonian. Thanks again, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this... whatever it is
It looks like the rocks I saw while visiting the plant Zeurtron back in 1587. They often piled them up in their yards and took crystals and placed them on top. Spheres were also popular since they sat well in the thumbprints on top. Of course the people of Zeurtron had much bigger specimens of these. The Zeurtrons were closer to Venus and Neptune and often gathered artifacts from those ancient civilizations that were worshipped long ago by other cultures. I did see many of the cultures represented from the Earth from Old Europe and their paranoid objects represented there. I believe the Zeurtrons used to fly to Earth on weekend get-a-ways to have a good time and scare the earthlings and make them even more paranoid then they were in the 13th and 14th centuries and the objects they worshipped, much like the Earthlings are now. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices
Joe, My heart sank and my chest felt heavy after reading your very honest post on selling Your Meteorite to take care of your kids and yourself and needs. Honestly, if I had the cash I'd give you $20k for the whole thing. You have honestly made me feel very humble and human after reading your post. I'm glad you found it since if I'd been out there with you hunting and found it I'd probably have wanted to have pulled off a oops I tripped and fell and holler at your kids to come help the Cool Older White haired Dude up out of the cow pie and hoped they would have seen it laying there and I would have let them have it. I wish you the best of happiness, peace, and joy and keep that warm heart open. I'm getting a little teared up here. You sell the Kerchner meteorite and do what you need to do with the money. All the best, Brian Cox Chicago IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices
Joe, My heart sank and my chest felt heavy after reading your very honest post on selling Your Meteorite to take care of your kids and yourself and needs. Honestly, if I had the cash I'd give you $20k for the whole thing. You have honestly made me feel very humble and human after reading your post. I'm glad you found it since if I'd been out there with you hunting and found it I'd probably have wanted to have pulled off a oops I tripped and fell and holler at your kids to come help the Cool Older White haired Dude up out of the cow pie and hoped they would have seen it laying there and I would have let them have it. I wish you the best of happiness, peace, and joy and keep that warm heart open. I'm getting a little teared up here. You sell the Kerchner meteorite and do what you need to do with the money. All the best, Brian Cox Chicago IMCA # 6387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin high winds and possible heavy thunderstorms tonight
Good morning Met List, Now it's time for your updated Weather report for the Montfort/Livingston/Mifflin/Grant and Iowa County areas. High winds will continue today to blow dirt across fields and pastures in the Wisconsin hunting area with highs in the 70s, and strong thunderstorms with a 60% chance of rain are expected tonight. Saturday is expected to be clear and in the mid 60s. Get out there and hunt like there's the big main mass waiting for you today folks. Stay tuned for your weather updates for the Wisconsin Meteorite hunting area. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin high winds and possible heavy thunderstorms tonight
Greg and list, Thanks for the tornado update. I was afraid that was going to happen since the Weather Channel gave Wisconsin a 4 out of 10 chance that tornados would be in the area. Best to all, hopefully no tornados, but be ready to go underground in the hotel basement. Take care, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BE CAREFUL OF RUMORS WITH WISCONSIN STONES.. Also Watch Out Meeting People Alone.
Hi Michael and list, You gave good advice about not meeting any strangers wanting to meet to look at their supposed meteorites. I was afraid some con men and women would make it out there and possibly try to rob someone. I hope it doesn't happen, but you are right. Be careful, since you are out in the middle of farmland and stay in your car if anyone does want to meet even if you are with someone and be ready to drive off and burn rubber. p.s. I can smell the ozone in the air, not that it couldn't be air pollution here in Chicago, but the clouds are moving in and there's rain and storms northwest of town, just in case anyone is going to O'Hare. Take care, better hunting tomorrow for you folks, it should clear up and be sunny and in the 60s by noon. all the best, Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Wonder Of Meteorites
Hi, Jeff Kuyken, Your video rocks!! I think it's great, played it about 7 times. It's wonderful, amazing, beautiful and a magnificent presentation of how asteroids are formed and the photos and video footage of meteorites found on earth and the science related to meteorites and asteroids. This should be Basic 101 for any Science class and meteorite study ...in any class. It's Excellent and I'm an old dog and not much impresses me anymore. This did impress me and the music is beautiful also! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Joe Kerchners Beautiful meteorite main mass hammer stone
Joe, Your new meteorite is beautiful. You and the kids should be very proud. It has a beautiful and amazing crust on it and the patterns in the matrix are stunning like a geometry puzzle of shapes and colors and designs. Glad you hung around and searched more and found it with skill and good luck. Congratulations and all the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
