[meteorite-list] Sighting in Israel
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[meteorite-list] Sighting in Israel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Publications of the Carancas event ADDITIONAL
You wrote: It may have been only the less energetic vaporization of the 5% to 8% of the meteorite that was troilite that was the bright flash rather then the vaporization of the entire stone. Still, that alone would have been enough to shatter the impactor into fragments (or dust). If that were the scenario, would an observation posted to the list on 10/5 by Piper R. W. Hollier seem a reasonable expectation: Troilite dissociates at high temperatures (e.g. hypersonic impact), releasing hot sulphur vapor, which in turn will oxidize in air to form sulphur dioxide, a very irritating poison. At the time Piper's theory as to why all the sickness was reported seemed to me to be the best explanation for the reports. Would the above scenario support that notion? Charlie D. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite )
What was it? I didn't ask the obvious followup. It took ages to get a simple yes or no answer to the first question. All I know is that it wasn't a meteorite. CDevine __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite )
Finally got an answer: It was not a meteorite. CDevine __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OFFTOPIC] the ugly weathered chondrite AD? DISGUISED?
I don't know about anyone else, but when I click on www.meteoritetimes.com to check the list rules, I get taken to Bettingways: Your Online Gambling Guide:-(. Now THATS spam Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!
Hello Robert and list, Robert wrote: If you touch something that is extremely cold (such as dry ice), you feel a burning sensation. Too much cold becomes too hot. Robert further wrote: I wonder if people who claim that meteorites were hot to the touch, were simply mistaking the cold temperature as being hot. I've long suspected that was the case, Robert. Richard Pearl, in his 1975 book Fallen from Heaven: Meteorites and Man, reports the following regarding the fall of the Forest City, Iowa meteorite on 5/2/1890: This brilliant fireball, 'sputtering though its course like fireworks' traveled eastward, leaving a smoke trail and a noise like 'heavy cannonading' and a 'rushing sound' or 'unearthly hissing'. As at Estherville, a contested ballgame was in progress at the time. Although it was reported to be hot, a boy who picked up a piece from an unsinged stack of straw complained that it was 'so cold that it burned his hand'. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!
Hi all, Larry wrote: By the way, they had never heard of the (very good) suggestion that a person touching a very cold meteorite may actually think that the burning sensation is heat and not cold. The testimony of a young witness to Forest City certainly provides food for thought re Robert's suggestion. Myself, an unfortunate encounter with dry ice, taught me, at a fairly early age, that indeed, at times, there is a fine line between Fire and Ice:-) Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Langs' Auction - I Hope This Is The Last Time
Michael wrote: .I also will drop all this unless I am called names again like Charlie Devine and now Nelson Oaks did. Michael, Geoff, list: Just for the record, I did not call you ANY names Michael. I referred to your guilty until proven innocent approach as rantings. And I was simply defending someone I hold in high regard, and I don't owe you an apology for that. What you saw as an open and shut case of fraud, I saw as a rush to judgement. I did not call you any names, Michael. Best wishes to all, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement
Greg, I am aware that you and your brother had a falling out with Al a few years ago, for which reason, when you first opined on the Langs Tucson auction, I chose not to regard your opinion as objective. I have known Al since the early 80's, and freely admit my own opinion is that honesty, integrety and good reputation are part of the package where Al is concerned. Best wishes, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hello Charlie and List, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with your term rantings. If you knew what I know of this situation and other non-related dealings, and of the proof Achim Karl produced among other's, than you and the other List members would truly understand the long-term pattern of problems. A simple public statement saying they will make up for their mistakes (or otherwise) does not admit guilt or prove innocence. They need to settle ALL past mistakes and grievances against them. Time in years does not constitute honesty and integrity but it does produce reputation!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement Hello Iris, Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know better then to pay attention to the rantings of Greg Hupe or Mike Farmer. Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message--- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement
Hello Iris, Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know better then to pay attention to the rantings of Greg Hupe or Mike Farmer. Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Kansas Meteorite!
This cannot be a witnessed fall? A crash is heard in the trees and 2 days later a meteorite as fresh as the morning dew is found at the location where the crash was heard.. Will the witness please tell the court exactly what you heard outside your door on the evening of Maybe something along the lines of there is some evidence to suggest the stone fell 2 days prior to it's recovery.. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
Darren Garrison wrote: I have an inordinate fondness of Flexicalymene sp. trilobites from around Ohio--I have dozens of them. Hello Darren, One of the neatest specimens I once had in my trilobite collection was a pair of Flexicalymene meeki trilobites from Ohio in a configuration known to collectors as love bugs. If you have Ohio collector Thomas Johnson's book Trilobites of the Thomas T. Johnson Collection, there's an excellent example on page 110. I'm sure you've seen the configuration: a completely enrolled Flexicalymene with another Flexicalymene wrapped around it. Just by coincidence, there's an example on ebay now that the seller is calling love bugs, although it's a bit different then the classic configuration. Still, maybe you'd like to add it to your Flexicalymene family: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140059533085 Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar Leonid Strikes
Nice post, Jerry. You're a heartfelt guy, as has been clear for some time. I know you're from Ma. Take in the August Springfield show sometime. Always meteorites there, though not as many dealers as in earlier years. I'm from RI but have not been to the show for 3 years. Maybe next year. Everyone in these parts, but eastern Ma most of all, remembers the Perfect Storm. Sorry you apparently were very hard hit.. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
Gary asked: What else does everyone collect? Time permitting, I sit perfectly still for several hours on my days off and collect dust. Then I go out and hunt for fossils and artifacts (surface finds only!) Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteor ite)
Mark wrote: Good work there, well done taking the time to go see the site...Do you know if they do any kinds of tests other then a visual like a streak test, magnet test, etc., etc.? Hello Mark, Well, I'm only 30 minutes from the site, so no big deal getting there. Besides, the Newport Tower has been called the most enigmatic structure in North America, so visiting the first dig allowed there in 60 years was a must for me, since I've long been interested in the mystery of it's origin. Everyone involved wanted to see a Viking sword emerge from the ground, but that never happened. As for the mystery stone, it was actually found by accident when one of the students working there ran a magnet through dirt taken from a 2000-3000 BP level. They were not screening or paying attention to that level, as it long predates the tower, but the student didn't realize it and used a magnet in a search for metal artifacts, and up popped the stone. I was certainly disappointed that I was unable to examine it. On the other hand, that probably spared me the task of being the one to tell them that's no meteorite. I didn't want to find myself in that position, since by then the stone was their most exciting find. Many people from this list had written them, and at least one listmember suggested a monetary value for the stone!! So now the people at ASU can make the call. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)
Elton wrote: We don't know what it is so it must be a meteorite, implying we on the dig are all knowing except for what we don't know otherwise. Hello Elton, Actually, Ron Barsted told me he based his visual identification on having seen and handled hundreds of meteorites at the Tucson Show every year. I've never been to the Tucson Show, but if I'd had the chance to examine the find, any visual ID I could make would have been based on handling hundreds of meteorites over 20 years. I don't know how much of an advantage that makes, but I agree that the photos alone indicate it is not a nickel-iron. Thanks for checking this out Charlie but a point of caution. The Academic types don't like (ahem..) Amateurs telling them anything that could threaten their proclamations. When you got to the part of about cutting and donating the 20% part I am sure they tuned you out. Well, over the years I've certainly run into that attitude many times, Elton. On the other hand, I'm very slightly removed from amateur status, being published in Native American petroglyph studies, among other archaeological subjects. So it's possible I was shown more respect that might otherwise have been the case. But I very much doubt it. The dig organizers made it quite clear to me that their only interest was in doing the right thing, including the 20% donation. Further, it was their hope that the city of Newport would eventually display the find at the headquarters of the Newport Historical Society. Odds are, of course, that it's a meteorwrong, since it's hard to beat the odds. But they were very happy to see me and happy to have heard from other listmembers. It will be up to ASU to give them the good or bad news. It would be a first for Rhode Island, so I'm hoping they beat the odds. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)
I spent 2 days at the Newport Tower dig, but was unable to examine the meteorite, as by then it was in the mayor's office for safe keeping, and the mayor was nowhere to be found. Whether it be meteorite or meteorwrong, it belongs to the city of Newport. I did explain to Jan and Ron Barsted, the directors of the dig, the steps necessary to get it classified and officially recognized, should it be the real thing. As a result it will be taken to Arizona State University for identification. Jan Barsted is a faculty member at ASU. Here are the 2 photos I posted last week, should anyone care to comment based on photos alone: http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=26 http//www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=27 C. Devine __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)
I spent 2 days at the dig, but was unable to view the meteorite, as by then it was in safe keeping in the Mayor's office and the mayor was not to be found. Whether it turns out meteorite or meteorwrong, it belongs to the city of Newport. I did make sure that Ron and Jan Barsted, the organizers of the dig, understood the steps necessary to get it classified and officially recognized if it is the real thing. As a result, they will be taking it for identification to Arizona State University, where Jan Barsted is a faculty member. Here are 2 photos I posted a week ago, if anyone cares to comment based on photos alone: http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=26 http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=27 C.Devine ---BeginMessage--- http://www.turnto10.com/news/10392157/detail.html NEWPORT, R.I. -- An archaeological dig at a mysterious Newport Tower turns up -- not much. Archeologists spent a month digging at a structure called the Old Stone Mill. The tower's origins are uncertain -- leading amateur historians to speculate it was built by Nordic Vikings, Irish monks or even stranded Chinese sailors. Archaeologists said the excavation yielded buttons, pottery and glass fragments -- but none dated later than the late 1600s. However, the team believes it found part of a small meteorite that fell more than 2,000 years ago. Many in Newport believe the tower has more local origins. They said it was built under the direction of colonial Governor Benedict Arnold, the great-grandfather of the Revolutionary War traitor. Joyce Clements, an archaeologist involved in the dig, said colonial Rhode Island had craftsmen skilled enough to build it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message--- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rhode Island meteorite?
Hello Jason and list, I have written to Jan Barsted, president of the Chronognostic Research Foundation, the group doing the excavation, and informed her of the procedures that must be followed to make a find official. Of course, it may turn out to be a meteorwrong, but I agree it does indeed look promising. The dig is scheduled to end on the 22nd, and if it ever stops raining around here, I will visit the site before then. Right now, that looks like Saturday, the 18th. I'll let the list know how it went. Best wishes, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hello All, For those interested, the log from the 18th does have some high quality photos of the 'meteorite.' And I'd have to say that it certainly looks promising, at the very least. The interior looks relatively unweathered compared with the semi-present crust (you can see ?chondrules? through it), but on the whole, it doesn't look half bad. Shape is good, texture and colour are good...anyone who's in the area would do well to check it out. Regards, Jason On 11/15/06, Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorite from my home state of Rhode Island. However, it was recently reported in our local press that a stone meteorite was discovered during a still ongoing archaeological excavation of the Newport Tower in Newport, R.I. This excavation hopes to answer once and for all whether the tower is colonial English in origin or whether it is earlier in origin. ( It has long been speculated that the tower is Norse in origin. However, the most recent previous study dated the mortar as 17th century. ) In any event, if you look at the entry log for 10/19/2006, they describe the discovery of a meteorite. Identification was made by one Ron Barstad and his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The on-site photos posted with the 10/19 log entry don't show the alleged discovery. I will try to visit the dig site next week. I have many more connections to archaeology then I do meteorite studies, so if any list member can confirm that a meteorite has indeed been discovered in Rhode Island, please post to the list. On the following page, the entry for 10/19/06 describes the discovery: http://www.chronognostic.org/daily_logs.html Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message--- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rhode Island meteorite?
Hello list, There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorite from my home state of Rhode Island. However, it was recently reported in our local press that a stone meteorite was discovered during a still ongoing archaeological excavation of the Newport Tower in Newport, R.I. This excavation hopes to answer once and for all whether the tower is colonial English in origin or whether it is earlier in origin. ( It has long been speculated that the tower is Norse in origin. However, the most recent previous study dated the mortar as 17th century. ) In any event, if you look at the entry log for 10/19/2006, they describe the discovery of a meteorite. Identification was made by one Ron Barstad and his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The on-site photos posted with the 10/19 log entry don't show the alleged discovery. I will try to visit the dig site next week. I have many more connections to archaeology then I do meteorite studies, so if any list member can confirm that a meteorite has indeed been discovered in Rhode Island, please post to the list. On the following page, the entry for 10/19/06 describes the discovery: http://www.chronognostic.org/daily_logs.html Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rhode Island meteorite?
Hello list, A list member has kindly pointed out that the meteorite in question is indeed shown on the webpage I sent earlier, documenting the archaeological dig at the Newport Tower. Here are 2 photos, which can be found in the daily log entry for 10/18/06: http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=26 http://www.chronognostic.org/photo_tour.php?date=20061018id=27 Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Gibeon Request
While I have never seen incontrovertible proof for the existence of PK or TK, in general research into these areas is part of the much broader research into the relationship of consciousness and the physical universe, whether macro or micro(quantum). I personally find such research to be one of the truly exciting frontiers of scientific research. See, for example, http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/ The random number generator experiments at this Princeton facility are of particular interest where speculation regarding PK is concerned. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] New Meteorites Discovered in Australia
You wrote: But why do these people have to mar their wonderful finds with BS like that he dreamed about finding it only a few meters away the night before? That is simply stupid. On page 62 of The Robert Haag Collection of Meteorites, Private Collection Edition, Robert Haag wrote: Great Sand Sea 010. 302 grams total. Howardite achondrite. These five stones were found in one lucky day by the author after a vivid dream the night before. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay sniping
http://www.esnipe.com will place a bid for you with as little as one second remaining in the auction. You set the time when esnipe bids for you Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] OT-Crystals
Andi wrote: Wow! Where do you buy these perfect minatures of hman beings?:) Seeing is disbelieving. This page gives a short synopsis. Check the link more photos to see more little people :-) http://giantcrystals.strahlen.org/america/naica.htm Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT-Crystals
http://www.mineraltown.com/Reports/giant_crystals/crystals_cave.jpg Selenite, Naica mine, southern Chihuahua, Mexico. Discovered April, 2000. I posted this pic on the list several years ago. Sorry for the repost, just going for the Wow! factor:-) Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Los Angeles meteorite??
List, Can't get the link but check out item# 6610535940. What's up with that? Even the description of the discovery is similar to Bob Verish's account. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] For the Peekskil lovers (ad.)
Nice Peekskill kits, Jan. I am a Peekskill lover and own none:-( And I knew Alan Lang well and could have had a fine piece if only I asked! It was during a lull in my interest in meteorites. Love the stones that draw attention to themselves this way. Have a slice of Worden with red paint from the car it hit, and a slice of the Garza stone from Park Forest with white plaster on the crust, as well as artifacts from the impact. Very nice way of combining meteorites and unique moments in man's relationship with meteorites. Thanks for the link. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
Al, I can't find my copy of Find a Falling Star :-( But in that book Nininger describes the one and only time he, purely by chance, surface collected a previously unknown meteorite. As I recall, it was a very small chondrite. If you can find that passage, or if someone else can find where he describes that chance find, please post it to the list if possible. Thanks, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
I want to thank Robert Woolard for answering my question regarding the only previously unknown meteorite actually field collected by Nininger. It was Puente-Ladron, an L chondrite of 7.673 grams which Nininger picked up near a bridge over the Puerco River, 10 miles from Ladron Peak, in Socorro Co, New Mexico, on 17th May, 1944. Nininger describes the discovery on page 143 of Find a Falling Star. Now if I could just find my copy, I could read about it:-) Thanks again Robert! Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Bernd, Gary, listees, This page from Eric Twelker's site has a rough map of the distribution area. http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/CDinfo.htm Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites carved by the Inca?
When I saw the phrase meteorites that the Incas had carved on, this hoax came to mind: http://skepdic.com/icastones.html Just a thought Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] siderolites
Arnold wrote: I see I misspelled the word. Just an oversite on my part. Oversite should be spelled oversight. Just another oversight on your part. Also, why do I get the impression that all your posts from the past 2 days were really just an excuse to spam the list with your never ending sales updates? Is that an oversite on your part??? CDevine __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Backyard Crater in Rhode Island Spawns Questions
The owner of the property is still waiting for a response from either Brown University or the University of Rhode Island. If nobody stops by to examine the crater by Monday he's going to dig up whatever, if anything, is at the bottom of the hole. I'll keep the list updated if anything of interest turns up. CDevine __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bolide Reported From Cape Cod, Mass
Hello Jerry and Ryan, From CNN Boston: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/25/meteor.shower.ap/ From The Westerly Sun, south coast of Rhode Island: http://www.thewesterlysun.com/articles/2005/04/25/news/news3.txt Some observations culled from reports in the Providence Journal: Tiverton, R.I. police said they searched near the Sakonnet River for reported meteorite landings but found nothing. Connecticut state police were searching near East Lyme last night, based on similar reports. ( I was artifact hunting along the Sakonnet River today, but, of course, did not see any skyrox.) A crowd gathered at Second Beach in Middletown to watch the show in the sky, according to Newport, R.I. police. 'A woman came into the station and said it was awesome,' a Newport police spokesperson said. 'They were down at Second Beach ( a south facing beach on the Atlantic ), and this thing came screaming across the sky. It had a tail and everything. It was green.' From R.I. State police: The descriptions varied, a spokesperson said. It came in as a plane smoking. Then it came in a a plane throwing out small articles, which were parachuting. It really was bizarre. Most of the reports were something that was smoky, or a plane that was on fire the spokesperson said. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PHOTO OF A LUNAR IMPACT EVENT (was Crackpot in the news...)
Sterling wrote: Lunascan is a network of people who run automated telescopes to search for TLP's (Transient Lunar Phenomenon). Some years ago, I got to know, through their mailing list, some of the members of Lunascan. In general. I am not one to judge, but I believe many on this mailing list would position the people of Lunascan within the lunatic fringe. For example: http://www.astrosurf.com/lunascan/elo-st.htm Check out the article Archaeological Reconnaissance of the Moon to get an idea. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende, the new drug of 2005?
Sterling Wrote: I'm sure Lunar agriculture will be big business some day. 100% Absolute Guaranteed Pollution Free Organic Lunar Produce! Reminds me of the Moon Trees. Moon Trees: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/moon_tree.html The search for the missing moon trees: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/moon_trees_020815.html As recently as a few years ago, it was still possible to purchase seeds from second generation moon trees. Don't know if that's still the case. -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pacific Northwest fireball
Hello list, A report from MSNBC on Saturday night's fireball in the Pacific Northwest. At least one very cool video exists of the event, as I saw a clip of it on MSNBC TV a short time ago. Perhaps someone can locate that clip on the web somewhere? http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7170644/ -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
I woud like to see a meteorite fall by the shores of: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg Located in Webster Ma, at the boundary of Ma, Connecticut and Rhode Island. Most popular( but probably not the most accurate) translation: You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobody fishes in the middle. -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Michael, While the description several listess have given of a blog, namely that it is a personal web log, is accurate, it is perhaps also educatinal to note that the bloggers are emerging as competitors to the mainstream news media. The story at the link below illustrates the tremendous impact the bloggers are having on the mainstream media in the US, being at least indirectly responsible for the resignation of Dan Rather, among others: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3037816 Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] STILL not clear - Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House
Michael, I believe Farmer was the first to offer pieces of the Winslow St impact with fragments of the house siding. Knowing you collect hammer stones, I would put it this way: the Winslow St stone is not a hammerstone like the Garza or Jones stones. It did not directly hit the house, but rather impacted the street in front of the house. It shattered upon impact, with pieces ricochetting into the house. As I recall at the time, Farmer purchased a large fragment(s) that had caused the damage to the siding and then offered slices from this fragment. It may be reasonable to assume that Cottingham obtained his Winslow St. specimens from Farmer. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] last word on gmail
Michael wrote: Dave, come on, are you 3 years old? Michael, in the years I've been on this list, nobody acts more like a 3 year old then you do. Have a wonderful day, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Great to be poor!
They are ONLY rocks, Tom. You can't take them with you even when you can afford only the best, and if you do take them with you, the graverobbers will soon do their thing:-) They are ONLY rocks, the objects of desire. Desire is never satisfied. Get a new rock, enjoy it for a short time, and desire returns. A large or valuable meteorite collection will never be the foundation of true happieness. Desire attaches itself to the objects it desires and demands to be fed still more. Give ebay a break for a spell. Stop looking at meteorites for a spell. What did you do before you discovered it was possible to own meteorites? Did you miss acquiring them when you didn't realize you could acquire them? I stopped buying meteorites a year and a half ago. I don't miss spending money on meteorites at all. I'm a non-collector too. I still enjoy the science. I enjoy seeing beautiful specimens. But I never find myself saying gee, I wish I could afford that one. I stilled the desire. Of course, I doubt dealers would like it if my philosophy took hold:-) Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: A gift for the new year
A friend sent me this page this morning. I accepted it as a gift for the new year, the story of a child so inspiring that I feel moved to share it with as many people as possible. Take the time to view the art and poetry and you may wonder, as I do, from whence such genius derives. Her name is Akiane and she is a gift to the world. http://www.artakiane.com Happy New Year, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] my address
Bill, Why are you posting private messages to the list? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] and you thought meteorites were expensive
Hi John, Good one. I knew before going to the link that it would be Babe's contract. The seller, Alan Shawn Feinstein is a Rhode Island institution by now. Made his first fortune from ads on matchbook covers, and has been giving his money away ever since. Thanks for sharing that. BTW, I never believed in the curse. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chinese satellite slams apartment building
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Re: [meteorite-list] AW: General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
Norbert, Bernhard, Matt, and list A US registered package must be signed for by each and every postal worker who handles it. Should it disappear, the powers that be go straight to the last person who signed for it. Registered mail is for valuables. Up to the individual to decide if $200 is valuable, or if it need be a lot higher in value to justify registered mail. All registered packages are handled seperately from all other classes of mail. You can settle for less expensive insured mail, but such packages are routed with all other parcels. Registered items are kept in locked cages and conveyed to branch offices apart from the flood of mail and packages that comprise the bulk of mail volume. Getting it signed for every step of the way is as close to TLC as the post office gets, so if it's valuable to you as a buyer or seller, send it registered. Best wishes, Charlie Devine USPS Wrwick, R.I. USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: The Other Mars Meteorite - LafayetteMeteorite
Marc, Here is a photo of Lafayette from the Smithsonian: http://www.nmnh.si.edu/minsci/images/gallery/34.htm And here, in Nininger Moment #11, as compiled by Al Mitterling, Nininger talks about Lafayette: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/mitterling11.html Amazing that it should look so fresh despite its' terrestrial age. Cheers, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tunguska Story Makes the Rounds
Dear listmembers, This story sheds light on the recent claims and provides some history regarding similar claims. Turns out the explorers predicted they would find alien technology before they set out to do so. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/tunguska_event_040812.html C. Devine __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LETTER FROM EBAY
Greetings, Some time ago I noticed a Native American skull for sale on ebay. I did report it to them, but I also reported it to a Native American news group who in turn reported it to the assistant US Attorney General of the seller's state. Ebay cancelled the ad and law enforcement took it from there. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Resend: Repatriating Chinese fossils from Australia
Terry: For years now I keep hearing that exportation of fossils from China is illegal, with severe punishments for those Chinese who collect and supply. Yet here in the USA, and in other markets I'm sure, dino eggs continue to be so prolific it's as if the dinos were still laying them. And the market evolves. In very recent years complete, albeit small dinosaurs, have entered the market from China, some displayed in death pose on matrix, some assembled freestanding. Now it is possible for a collector to own a complete dinosaur. Unheard of in the not very distant past. I don't know what is legal or illegal here, nor do I really know the laws as it applies to meteorites. I do know I can bid on complete dinosaur skeletons from China on ebay, if I so choose, not to mention trilobites, marine reptiles, dinosaur age birds, dinosaur eggs of many varieties, etc, etc.. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] List Problems?
Hello Geoff. I'm answering you from the archives as I've only received a few list messages in recent days. Seems to me Michael Blood had a similar problem a few weeks ago, and now and then it seems to happen to some list membes. So, you're not alone. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding Comment
Jim and list, I agree. I always saw sniping as a stategy used to get the item for the best possible price. If I decide I am willing to spend $200 for an item and with minutes left the price is still $75 I may snipe with $200 with seconds left to see if I can get it for less then $200. If I bid the $200 with days left, it allows others to raise closer to my bid. I may still win but I may pay more then if I sniped at the end. If you don't like being sniped or think it unfair, you can use anti-snipe services. Best wishes, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Good MorningWalter, list members. I hate to beat a dead horse at this point, but I think most ebay bidders try to get an item at the lowest possible price with no regard to what they would be willing to buy the item at a fixed sale. This is justthe way most of us conduct ourselves in an auction. Here is a perfect example: I currently have a 100 gram DOUBLE ORIENTED 100 gram Sikhote-alin on ebay that started at a penny. FourDIFFERENT bidders have placed bids and it is only up to $5.50. See item number 2249907461 if this link does not work: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2249907461 I think it is just natural for all of us to try to get the best deal possible and by budding the maximum one is willing to pay on the first bid then perhaps we feel like we are giving up our control over the situation. Just my two cents on the subject. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Meteoryt.net" [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding Comment Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 05:48:13 -0400 No, I am RIGHT. If you place your maximum bid the first and only time, then you should walk away happy from the deal each and every time. If you win, you the item at YOUR price. If you lose, you may be disappointed over not getting the item, but you walk away with the satisfaction knowing that you did not spend beyond your means. BTW, I see nothing wrong with bidding in the last few seconds.It is still a valid auction.I have obtained many nice pieces this way and I have lost many nice pieces to others.Either way, I was happy with outcome because I did not spend more than what I wanted to spend. You might be irritated that you lose an auction, but what have you really lost?Besides, what is ebay supposed to do, stop an auction after a given individual bids. Other bidders don't know your maximum bid.How can you say you are the loser when you were willing to go to x amount anyway? Also, as someone else pointed out, if you have a "sniper" placing a bid against you at the last second, the person isn't quaranteed to win just because he or she places a bid. What happens when the sniper places his or her bid and it is below yours? It seems to me that bidders only have a problem with "sniping" when they lose an auction, not when they win. Only faster gunmen survive. You are making a rather large assumption, that the faster gunmen will actually hit his target.What if he misses? -Walter www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: "Meteoryt.net" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding Comment Hi Mike, Just bid your highest bid the first time and forget it.If you win, you win.If you don't, via sniping or otherwise, well you weren't going to bid any higher anyway so what difference does it make whether the other person's bid was entered 10 hours, 10 minutes, or 10 milliseconds before the auction ends? You are WRONG. Its verry importand when You place bid. exam1 If item is placed f.e. for 1$ , and in a first few days will go up to 20$ then You put f.e. 100$ your max bid 3 days before auction ends. So then many other bidders will try to outbid You and final price will grown up more or less slowly, and finally price will be f.e. 90$. You are lucky winner ? No, You are lucky looser. And many times You will return from work, log to ebay and what You see ? You are outbited and someone win Your item. Nothing more irritated. exam2 Without your early bid price is still 20$ and in the next days will not grow up in the same speed as with your bid. So finally in last 5 minutes of auction,item price will be 50$. Someone who is high bidder in last 60 seconds think that noone will place higher price, and then You come. A lone sniper, who will place his 101$ in last 20 seconds of auction. Not 100$, becouse people usualy enter prices as 50, 60, 100, 110, so to be sure you must put 51, 61, 101$. If You do this in the last 20 seconds Your bid will be entered in around 5-10seconds
[meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event
Dear list, I can't download this 2 minute clip, but most listmembers probably can, and it may be worth seeing. Scroll down the page at the link until you see a video entitled Space rock falls into living room http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_index_skin/tvnz_index_group Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event
Ken wrote: Charlie Thanks very much for the link. Your welcome, Ken. And thank you for the description which gave me some idea of what I'm missing:-) Guess we'll all be following the saga of this new fall as it unfolds. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Archaeologist Finds Brenham Meteorite AmongArtificats from the Hopewell People
Michael and Martin, And because prehistoric refers to cultures that have not developed writing, there are still prehistoric cultures in existance today. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireballs from Space
Dear list, For those in the US, the Discovery channel is airing a program called Fireballs from Space Sunday evening at 8, with a repeat airing at 11 PM.The show is described as dealing with earth crossing objects and the menace they pose. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Scalisi Collection?
Martin, I have spoken to Phil Scalisi several times. He is a good friend of a friend, and he often sets up a table at the Springfield, Ma show in August. His is one of the foremost private mineral collections in New England, and probably well beyond that. To the best of my knowledge he never specialized in meteorites per se, but his collections include great rarities among several collectables. I'm sure I can get his phone number for you should you wish to gather more info on the history of your specimen. Or his email should he have one. Just let me know. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Have we sent life to Mars?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Survival after a large impact event (Delete if you don`t wish to know)
Worrying about surviving an asteroid impact? Maybe this is an even bigger worry, especially for our European friends by the sounds of this secret Pentagon report. For what it's worth: http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1153530,00.html Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] It is ridiculous now.
Mark and list, There is an artifact collector who goes by the name I buy fakes. Don't know if he's still using that handle but he would bid on fakes. Other potential bidders would see his bid, and perhaps curious, click on his about me ebay page, where they would find a dissertation on the great proliferation of fake artifacts on ebay, and how to avoid them. Perhaps 30% of Native American artifacts on ebay are fake, and this was his way of doing his part to fight back. Regards, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hello list and Mark, Mark asked "well, hasn't someone bought from this seller now? Therefore, when the article arrives, it should be analyzed by one of our experts, and a signedanalysis submitted for mail fraud." This seller also has no feedback. Perhaps the IMCA could create a eBay account, like "fakemeteoritebuyer", "Ionlybuyfakemeteorites", "biddingonfakemeteorites" or the like. I am sure we could keep a little fund going to purchase the cheaper ones, then they could recycled back onto eBay like John's auction.. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
Hello Ken and Matt, Matt, I have a question I would like you to ask Matteo should you see him in the near future. On 8 January 2004, a friend of Matteo's posted a message to the meteorite-list with the subject heading UP WITH MATTEO!! The friend's name was Francesco Cini. Mr. Cini provided a link in his post. When downloaded this link went to a pro Al Quaida broadside, lampooning the United States and calling for its' destruction. I noted with interest at the time that Matteo did not repudiate this post by Mr. Cini. So I'm curious. Is Matteo sympathetic to the goals of Al Quaida? Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Finding Bits Of Mars On Earth
Hard to believe I'm the only one interested in an answer to this curious statement by a scientist who collects meteorites in Antarctica. But I did a little digging and got the answer. It is perfectly legal for private parties to collect meteorites in Antarctica. Regards, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Ron and list, Towards the end of this article, one of the scientists expresses concern that private expeditions will beat the scientific expeditions back to the LaPaz ice field next year. He is quoted as saying: The expeditions who use our information to help a tourist pick up a meteorite and lock it away in a private collection, it's a travesty to me.' How long has this been going on? Is it gong on? I thought the Antarctic was off limits to private hunters? Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Finding Bits Of Mars On Earth
Dear Adam, Norbert, Ken and list: Adam, what you're saying is what I was told as well. But it was certainly a revelation to me, until I asked myself who would prosecute an INDIVIDUAL if he or she collected meteorites in Antarctica? And I guess the answer is indeed nobody! But, I was also told that individuals from private expedition cruises were doing the collecting. I have no idea how close to the coast any meteorite fields may be, but while expensive, Antarctic cruise prices seem to be within financial reach of many people, and not just those for who $50,000 is a pittance. I checked a few websites for Antarctic cruises and several do arrange for smaller groups of 15 people or less to travel inland as far as 3-4 hours will take them to camp out. This can hardly amount to a serious threat to the scientific parties down there. I imagine any list member contemplating going on such a cruise would want to check the exact geographic itinerary of these cruises and pick one that might be more interesting then others. As for the ethics, I'm conflicted about it, but that's par for the course for me. Legal it is. Regards, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hi Ken and List Members, I read the same thing some time ago. What keeps dealers and collectors from going to Antarctica is the cost of logistics. Flying in shelter, food, snowmobiles, communications, medical supplies and cold weather gear would be extremely expensive not to mention travel costs just getting there. Some group was offering the chance to search for about $50,000.00 per a person a couple of years ago, no thanks! It would probably be half this amount to go to Greenland, a prime virgin territory. The treaty regarding the Antarctic finds only relates to the scientific communities of several countries and not individuals as I understand it. More importantly, the scientist in that article made it sound like a sin that private individuals are allowed to collect and own meteorites. I do not see any grant money going towards looking for these meteorites in the hot desert so I see no reason for any complaints. After all, the Sahara would not be out performing Antarctica if private money was not involved. Just look out how much planetary material has been coming out of the hot desert in the last five years. All the best, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Finding Bits Of Mars On Earth Charlie, Amazing! Well done! (Hupes are now packing their thermal underwear:) Best, Ken Charlie Devine wrote: Hard to believe I'm the only one interested in an answer to this curious statement by a scientist who collects meteorites in Antarctica. But I did a little digging and got the answer. It is perfectly legal for private parties to collect meteorites in Antarctica. Regards, Charlie Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Finding Bits Of Mars On Earth Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:43:18 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Devine) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Baalke) CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) Ron and list, Towards the end of this article, one of the scientists expresses concern that private expeditions will beat the scientific expeditions back to the LaPaz ice field next year. He is quoted as saying: The expeditions who use our information to help a tourist pick up a meteorite and lock it away in a private collection, it's a travesty to me.' How long has this been going on? Is it gong on? I thought the Antarctic was off limits to private hunters? Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites on ice
Hi John, The wind chill yesterday morning here in Rhode Island was 40 below zero Fahrenheit. I wore four layers, was outdoors for several hours and stayed as warm as toast! Loved it in fact. Well of course I'm crazy, but I'm thinking now the Antarctic ice fields would be a piece of cake. Yeah, right. BTW, the key to my stay warm strategy is making thermolactyl the first layer. The underwear of choice for expeditions to Everest and the poles. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Finding Bits Of Mars On Earth
Ron and list, Towards the end of this article, one of the scientists expresses concern that private expeditions will beat the scientific expeditions back to the LaPaz ice field next year. He is quoted as saying: The expeditions who use our information to help a tourist pick up a meteorite and lock it away in a private collection, it's a travesty to me.' How long has this been going on? Is it gong on? I thought the Antarctic was off limits to private hunters? Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT Martian weather reports
Jamie, I found this: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/mer_weather/ Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
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Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
Hello Grant, Rob, and list Grant wrote: Your last comment reminded me of this book: Walter M. Miller's acclaimed SF classic A Canticle for Leibowitz opens with the accidental excavation of a holy artifact: a creased brittle memo scrawled by the hand of the blessed Saint Leibowitz, that reads: Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels--bring home for Emma. Grant, that is one of my favorite SF novels. As I recall, it's set in what is Utah today, long after our civilization has vanished. And the memo is part of the sacred scripture of a monastic order living in the desert. Deserts and the monastic lifestyle always attracted me and I enjoy the theme of post apocalyptic worlds in the SF genre. Some years ago there was a spoof written of archaeological over-interpretation, the name escapes me, in which a team of future archaeologists excavate a McDonald's and interpret it as a religious temple from our times. Serious message: don't assume you understand the past so well, check your preconceptions at the door. Rob, be a shame if enough of your meteorite hunting reject piles don't survive long enough to keep future archaeologists on their toes. Astronomical alignments among the stone cairns of Roach Dry Lake. A ceremonial cairn complex at Roach Dry Lake. Best of luck finding meteorites and artifacts ( my 2 favorite collectables ). Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
Hi Rob, John, Mark and list Rob wrote: In a given day at Roach, I probably pick up a couple thousand rocks, piling them up in this manner. I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a thesis on The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far West: towards a solution. :-) I was just looking at a copy of Ancient Hunters of the Far West, 1966, by Malcolm Rogers, a former director of the San Diego Museum of Man. Many photos of stone cairns and stone enclosures dubbed sleeping circles in southern California. Apparently these are several thousand years old. Makes me chuckle to think in a millennium or 2, people may scratch their heads over all those meteorite hunter rock piles. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
John and list, I'm sure Bernd has a sense of humor, but no way is he Proud Tom. Who was quickest to answer virtually any meteorite-related question on this list, complete with enough references to satisfy anyone? Bernd. And he always showed his class. I don't know if he's disappeared because of the no-class arguments. But if that's the case, this list is very much poorer for it. Buried in snow up to my gill slits, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Lunar eclipse
Dear list: From a secluded spot on the shore of Mill Cove, Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island, USA, my wife and I watched a narrowing band of moonlight on still waters, a blood moon, and lots of squawking ducks. We thought it very beautiful. BTW, http://www.spacewheather.com has a nice lunar eclipse gallery up. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse gallery
Dear list: Didn't realize there were 2 space weather sites. Here is the correct address for the lunar eclipse gallery: http://www.spaceweather.com Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Life on Mars? New Light on a Martian Mystery
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3244927.stm This article describes tests done in the Atacama desert that may shed light on results obtained in the 76 Vikng mission. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Today's meteorite fall anniversary
John and Gregory, Well, no quakes in New England thursday night/friday morn, but as rabid baseball fans I'm sure you guys can understand the gloomy mood pervading Boston and the rest of New England at the moment. We do get an average of 2-3 small quakes each month in RI and southeast Mass.but few are noticed. A small one last week produced a loud bang similar to the famous Moodus noices that have been heard in the Moodus, Ct. area for many centuries. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC - Unusual
Michael and list, Here in southern New England there exists groups of Monk parrots. These parrots are, I believe, native to Argentina. The predominant theory is that they escaped from ships in New York city. They have been here in Rhode Island, year round mind you, for at least 15 years. I first saw one of the groups, for they have multiplied into many colonies over the years, on a Xmas morning at my parent's house where I saw 7 of them sitting on the backyard clothesline in a snowstorm! Had never heard of them, but soon a large colony took up residence in a neighbor's tree. Each pair of parrots has a seperate chamber in a huge communal nest. When they came home to roost at dusk the din was incredible. It would suddenly sound like the jungle and I'd deadpan to any visitors oh, that's just the parrots. There's about 50 live in a tree out back. They have since moved on but colonies still thrive here abouts and elsewhere in New England I'm sure. Charlie ---BeginMessage--- WARNING: This is off topic, so, some/many of you may wish to hit your delete button. Yesterday (Sept. 8) a very unusual occurrence took place in my yard: A flock of a dozen parrots came to eat my leftover sunflower seeds! When I went out to pick up the paper at about 8 AM I was alerted when a neighbor lady called out to me, Mr. Blood, there are parrots in your sunflowers! And, to my delight and amazement, there were, indeed, parrots feeding off the Russian Giant Sunflowers! I had left most of them to dry in the sun, even though the birds had been eating them. but I had surely never seen parrots doing so. In fact, there were twelve of them an entire flock. And beautiful they were, indeed. Most amazing, they were clearly all the same species. I grabbed my camera and went out to get some photos. You can see most of the photos I captured of these beautiful creatures at: http://community.webshots.com/album/89632975MfUNTL (Particularly nice are photos # P16 P15) I later researched the species. They had beautiful blue heads, orangish top beak and near black bottom beak with a little blue in their underwing and red in the underside of some of their tail feathers. Their legs and feet were flesh colored and when I later examined their photos closely, I could see no bands on any of their legs, indicating they likely escaped bird importers in the Tiajuana area and/or have bread in the wilds of this area. They turned out to be Sharp-tailed Conures (Aratinga acuticaudata) which are native to Brazil, Bolivia, Uruguay and Argentina. So, they are clearly an escaped flock that have naturalized in the area. It is very rare to see parrot flocks in San Diego, but one hears of them appearing here there on occasion. Usually, however, such flocks are reported to contain mixed species of parrots, presumably attracted to their own kind having escaped captivity individually. This is the only occurrence I have been aware of where an entire flock was the same species. In any event, I will certainly be planting more sunflowers next year! Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auctions by Comet Meteorite-Shop
Mike, I'll go a step further then John. You can absolutely trust Serge and company. They are also good friends with Al Lang and he speaks highly of them. Since Al is one of the true good guys in this hobby, whom I've known for many years, that's good enough for me. I've also dealt with Serge at the Springfield show and, if Im any judge of character, he's a good man. He's running ebay auctions while he's in the US between shows. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apparent Meteorite Lands In Washington?
Tom asked: How long until these asphalt chunks turn up on EBAY? Not long at all, Tom: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184229794 Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Apparent Meteorite Lands In Washington?
Two more: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184225892 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184227572 Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and Dislikes
Roman wrote: Hey someone named Gregory, Are you the guy who had mentioned something about bulls in a china shop when we were having the SEX and meteorites contest? Good morning Roman and list, In fairness to Gregory and to save Gregory the task of searching the archives, it was I who made the bull in the china shop comment. Have a great day, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Likes and Dislikes
Adam and list, I saw a segment on the Today Show, I believe it was yesterday's edition, about a guy who lived out west, and who was selling a theme park that had been owned and operated by his family for years. He chose eBay over any number of local real estate agents. When asked why, he replied because eBay allowed him to reach the entire world. As of the airing of the Today segment, bidding had reached 4 million dollars. As a result of listing his property on eBay, interested parties with a serious interest were flying great distances to inspect the property and business. Ebay brought those interested parties to his doorstep. It's been called the world's largest fleamarket. Somewhere in excess of 100,000 people earn a full time living off eBay. And with the introduction of the buy-now option, it's not just an auction format anymore, but a world-wide virtual retail shopping mall as well. And it let's the little guy, not just the full-timers, earn a buck now and then with an ease never before possible before this virtual market existed. Well, I don't own stock in eBay, and a person's likes and dislikes are their own business But clearly, in the internet era, eBay was an idea waiting to happen. Wish it had been my idea. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA member offering questionable meteorite
Dear list, I agree with John that this is not a case of an IMCA member trying to sell a meteorwrong as a meteorite. He calls it an iron rock and meteorite-looking, and if I were a bidder I would not believe I was bidding on a meteorite, To protect those who might believe they were bidding on a meteorite, however, it would have been better if he stated clearly this is not a meteorite. But, if one wishes to question the practices of an IMCA member, consider the following auctions. Here is an auction for a 1.12g slice of Shirokovsky which ended in April, before it was official that Shirokovsky was not a meteorite. In this auction the seller identifies himself by IMCA number: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2171620619 Sometime later, the seller ran an auction for a 0.64g slice of Shirokovsky. Although official word had not yet come down on this material, I wrote to the seller and told him it was not looking good for this material being meteoritic He replied that he would look into it and he cancelled the auction. I was therefore surprised when he ran the auction again, this time to a conclusion: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2176968147 Note that in this auction, he does not mention the IMCA at all, even though he is still listed as a member, and he states the material is a pallasite. Further, he states that he is selling as is, which tells me this IMCA member knew exactly what he was doing: selling a meteorwrong as a meteorite. The winner of the auction also left feedback indicating that he loved his meteorite specimen! If this sounds familiar, I did point out this questionable auction to the list a few weeks back. The reason I am bringing it up now is that this IMCA member seems clearly to have pulled a fast one with the buyer being none the wiser, whereas the IMCA member selling the iron rock from Maryland does not seem to be, in my mind at least, anywhere near as deceptive in what he's doing. Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dave Marsocci contact me
Dave, I received your message but my replies bounce back. If you contact me again and include your phone number, I'll touch base with you that way. My apologies to the list for the personal message. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds: IDENTITY and DOUBLE GAUL
Tom, Ken, list, Just a short note to assure anyone who feels that they may have offended me somehow that such is simply not the case. This thing between Matteo and I, which had nothing to do with the dealer-refund thread, was over as far as I was concerned. When Matteo chose to complain to the list regarding me, I felt comfortable in setting the record straight. So,there is only one person to whom I might take offense, namely he who brought a private matter onto the list, but believe me, I am not sitting here stewing over it! From my perspective this private matter was unfortunate but of no great consequence in the grand scheme of things. Best wishes, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hello Charlie and list, Steve started a post called dealers refunds. I do not think the buyer in Steve's post deserves a refund! Some how, some where, the thread got off topic and on to the subject with Matteo and an ebay deal of his. When I replied on this subject, I thought we were still on Steve's original thread. So Charlie, I want you to know that I has not talking about you in this thread at all. I am sorry if I offended you, I thought if I was offending anyone it was the guy asking Steve for a refund! : ) Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ken O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds: IDENTITY and DOUBLE GAUL Hello everyone, On ebay I am shawomet, and I am the person whom Matteo is suggesting be blackballed on ebay because I left him negative feedback. I am very sorry that Matteo chose to air our differences on this list. When he continued to lie to me, I told Matteo he was very lucky I was keeping this between the 2 of us. Now he has decided to slam me in public, so, to set the record straight, here is why Matteo is so upset with me. It begins with the simple fact that Park Forest was a very special fall in my opinion. My emphasis in collecting has always been more on the history, and less on the science. So, Park Forest had it all in my eyes. I knew I was reading about, on this list, a fall that would rank as very historic. I resolved that I would try to acquire as many samples of the various hammers or house smashers as I could. It's 3 months later and I believe I did well in reaching my specific goals. Then one day I saw this ebay auction just a few hours after Matteo listed it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2178091504 This listing gave the unmistakable impression that the seller was offering a slice of the stone that hit the roof of the PF Firestation! With a buy-now option of $55 for a 1g slice. I thought, wow, what a way to round out my PF hammer collection!. But I also thought I thought the PF town council had decided to sell this stone to a museum? I then did what I've never done before. Bid first ( or in this case buy-now first ) and ask questions later. If this really were a piece of the PF Firestation stone, the auction might end with a buy-now before Matteo could answer my questions. So I ended the auction and immediately wrote to Matteo. I told him I would send payment if he could provide the evidence that this was indeed from the PF Firestation hammer. His reply did not really address my question. He told me that he got the slice from Michael Blood, who got it from the Hupes. He told me he had a slice from this stone on his collection page. He did, and it was captioned Firestation stone. I decided to contact Michael Blood, but he was not around. I decided to sleep on it. Lo and behold, when I awake I remember that Michael did offer pieces of a stone that had fallen across the street from the firestation. Matteo was mistaken. It must be a piece of this stone that I had purchased. So I wrote to Matteo and told him he must be in error, but being an honorable man, I would pay his ebay fees since I had bid first and asked questions later. A small loss for me, no loss for Matteo. Matteo's reply to my suggestion was that I could believe one of 2 things. I could believe that Michael Blood was a liar, or I could believe the slice came from the stone that penetrated the roof of the firestation. Whatever Matteo's reason for putting it that way, I fell for it and sent my payment. A perfect example of being told what I really wanted to hear and believing it I guess. Several days went bye when I noticed a post from Michael to the list. Seeing that he was around I contacted him and discovered my memory had been correct. Michael never offered this hammer on his pre-post list and Michael never told Matteo that the pieces Matteo bought from him came from the Firestation impactor. Michael also fwd
[meteorite-list] OT: Giant Hailstone
Dear list Don't imagine they get much bigger then this.. http://www.journalstar.com/local.php?story_id=58157 Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?
Gregory and list: In fact I informed the seller about a month ago that the status of Shirokovsky was questionable. At the time the seller was running an ebay auction for the same 0.64g slice. He replied that he would look into it and ended the auction. When I saw that he had relisted the slice last night, I first checked to see if he was still an IMCA member, as he had stated that he was the first time the slice was listed, but did not state as much in his current listing. Since the listing clearly states that Shirokovsky is a rare pallasite, and since the seller understands that status is questionable (why else sell it as is?), I felt this auction was an attempt by the seller to simply pass his loss on to someone else. While I am not myself a member of the IMCA, I do understand the goals of that group, and this seller would seem to be less then forthright in his description. Regards, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- The seller is IMCA member #8645. In an earlier auction of this material he was informed that the jury was still out on this material. The description states that it IS a pallasite classified by the Vernadsky Institute of Moscow. At the same time he states it is being sold "as is". A number of meteoritical scientists at the very top of the classification food-chain have stated (unofficially, not yet published) that their analyses establish that Shirokovsky is NOT a meteorite, and to my knowledge a number of dealers have been making refunds. The Meteoritical Society has not issued a final report to make it absolutely official and close the case, but it seems to be only a question of time. This seller is going to have to refund this piece anyway, so I would think that the IMCA would be well within its rights to insist (or at least strongly advise) that the seller add a sentence or two to his auction text (there's still plenty of time), essentially saying what I just did. It technically is not deemed a meteorwrong but apparently it will be soon enough, and surely the seller would want to see the big picture and be forthright here, if for no other reason than to be able to maintain credibility in the future. Gregory ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2176968147 Dear list: The seller is IMCA member #8645. In an earlier auction of this material he was informed that the jury was still out on this material. The description states that it IS a pallasite classified by the Vernadsky Institute of Moscow. At the same time he states it is being sold as is. What's up with that? Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] When is a fall historical?
Regarding Park Forest, Matteo wrote: Historical?? Historical is after over minimum 40 years, no after 4 dayshistorical only probably for the USA persons of the zone, but for meteorite collectors is not historical. Maybe we're splitting hairs here. In Matteo's interpretation, historical is synonymous with old. A certain passage of time must occur before a fall can be called historical. I don't know how we decide how many years must pass. Historical can also be use to convey the belief that something is important as in the phrase today an historic event transpired. Most of us, when we hear historical fall probably think old fall. But I know when I first heard the news of Park Forest, with all its' house smashing stones, I thought this was an historic fall. Historic as in important. That is why I said a few days ago that were I lucky enough to own a piece of one of the house smashers from this fall I would not need 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history. Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I heard a crash (Park Forest)
Very detailed first hand accounts of 2 of the house smashers. Great stuff! http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/yrtwn/south/281syt3.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Adler scientists seek photographic evidence (Park Forest)
Determining an orbit would be the icing on the cake. http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/astronomy/astronews/ Cheers, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] updates on park forest
Steve, Three individuals totaling 610 grams. That's some good friend you have Steve. And some good fortune on your part. Have you given any thought to sharing your good fortune by donating your remaining micros to an area school perhaps? Just a thought :-) Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Good evening list.I got wonderful news from my friend today.He decided to keep 4 of the 7 piece's he found in his back yard, bit I am getting the 3 largest.When he told me the size, I almost had a coronary.They are 360, 173, and 77 gram whole individuals.He said the all have about 95 percent fusion crust, and are totally blackgray in color.YYYESSS!!Also to update as to what I have left i micro's, here is a breakdown as to what I have left. FUSION CRUSTED MICRO'S 7X3X3mm, (3 AT)6X4X3mm, 7x3x2mm, 6x3x2mm, and 5x3x3 --- NON-CRUSTED PIECE'S 8x5x4mm, 8x6x3, (2 at)6x4x2, and (2 at)4x4x2mm --- This is what I have left.I will be going back to the strewnfield this saturday at about 8:00am. Also roman jirasek from toronto will be there.I also heard a few other collecters will be there.Hope some of you can make it. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http//:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] US wins back moon rock
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Re: [meteorite-list] EBAY SCAM??????
Tom, What happens when a meteorite collector discovers ebay? They go bonkers! I've seen it happen many times. Sometimes they're new to meteorites, in which case they often overpay. If he's new to meteorites, he'll eventually find other venues to acquire meteorites. If they already collect meteorites, and are simply new to ebay, eventually he'll calm down. Probably not a list member, and no harm is done writing to this person and inviting him/her to join the list. I've done so in the past and they're usually grateful to learn the meteorite-list community exists where they can learn more. You might try this. Just don't comment on his/her spending habits so as not to be accused of interfering with an auction. Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Russian scientists to search for meteorite
http://english.pravda.ru/region/2003/03/09/44186.html -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Questionable items?
Dear list, Recently thee was a thread regarding a slice and individuals of Estherville for auction on ebay. The consensus was that the samples wee not meteorites. In fact, the seller offered a slice of this material in an earlier auction and is presently offering more. In both the earliest and latest auctions I notice ebay handles of people who regularly bid on real meteorites. In order of earliest to current, the second being the one discussed earlier on the list, and the current being a relist of the second(?): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem+747516783 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcatagory+3239item+2155738365 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem+2161433327 This seller seems to be doing OK for themselves.. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Questionable items?(Correction)
Oh God, how I hate it when this happens. Here are the correct urls for my previous post. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=747516783 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcatagory=3239item=2155738365 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2161433327 If these links are dead, but curiosity has the better of you, go to advance search on the listings and key in the item number. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
