Re: [meteorite-list] witnessed fallen "Meteorite "interesting human behavior observed original powwow

2017-03-06 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
The first piece of the St. Robert meteorite (1994) was discovered by a farmer 
who saw his cows trooped around the fragment which had just landed.

Andre

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Subject: [meteorite-list] witnessed fallen "Meteorite "interesting human 
behavior observed original powwow

List,
Animal behavior potentially could indicate were the fallen meteorite is. Crows, 
cows and now turkeys found with keen observation.  Enjoy!  Now we need keen 
observers to be alert of the fowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1GAlc3_9OQ
Dirk Ross...Tokyo The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News 
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lucky teen inches from death as METEORITE crash lands next to him

2016-08-01 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
Gerrit Blank anyone ?

Andre

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Lucky teen inches from death as METEORITE crash   
lands next to him

Rght.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/534338/Lucky-teen-inches-death-METEORITE-crash-lands-next-him


Regards!


Tom

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hit by a meteorite lately?

2015-08-13 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
Generally speaking, I am *extremely* suspicious about the claims of people 
being hit by meteorites. That story about a man in Sweden losing an arm over it 
is suspiciously similar to a Chinese woman suffering a similar fate in 1915. A 
man supposedly died from one in Barbotan in 1790. Another claim from the Middle 
Ages is that two prior were killed by meteorites a century apart. Gerat Blank, 
a German teen, pretended to be hit by one in 2007. The list, as you say, goes 
on. Not to say it didn't happen but I would prefer to see some documentation 
first.

Andre

From: Sterling K. Webb [sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: August 13, 2015 12:23 AM
To: Deborah Anne K. Martin
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Hit by a meteorite lately?

Hi, Andre, List,

There are a number of cases
documented of individuals
being struck by meteorites,
going back centuries. A fellow
in Sweden lost an arm to one!

John S. Lewis' Rain of Iron
and Ice (1996) has a long
section listing hundreds of
such cases.

In the Uganda case, the
meteorite bounced off, not
leaves, but the trunks of
several trees before it struck
the boy.

Lucky boy.

Mrs. Hodges was inside her
house in an padded armchair
when the meteorite battered
its way through chimney, roof,
attic, ceiling, and several walls
before lodging in the side of her
chair. She was NOT directly
struck, which is very fortunate
for her

A meteorite that stagnates
and free-falls is usually going
200-300 mph when it reaches
the ground. If it doesn't stagnate,
it's going even faster. This is
according to Norton's book.

If you see one coming, put on
your hard hat.


Sterling Webb
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hit by a meteorite lately?

I seem to recall a teenager in Uganda got hit by a 3gr. piece of the Mbale
meteorite circa 1993 without any ill effect since the piece had been slowed
by several leaves of a banana tree.

Andre Bordeleau

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Hit by a mneteorite lately?

List:

Moody Jacobs shows a giant bruise
on the side his patient, Ann Hodges,
after she became the only person in
history to have been struck by a
meteorite:
http://dailylifestyle.com/rare-never-seen-historical-photos/45/

Sterling Webb

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hit by a meteorite lately?

2015-08-12 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
I seem to recall a teenager in Uganda got hit by a 3gr. piece of the Mbale 
meteorite circa 1993 without any ill effect since the piece had been slowed by 
several leaves of a banana tree.

Andre Bordeleau

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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Hit by a mneteorite lately?

List:

Moody Jacobs shows a giant bruise
on the side his patient, Ann Hodges,
after she became the only person in
history to have been struck by a
meteorite:
http://dailylifestyle.com/rare-never-seen-historical-photos/45/

Sterling Webb

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[meteorite-list] Vesta

2015-01-16 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
Hello all,

Could someone explain to me exactly how it was determined that certain 
meteorites, like Tatahouine, originally came from Vesta ?

I appreciate the help.

Andre
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[meteorite-list] Florida boy

2014-07-11 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
Hello all,

Last November (circa the 27th, I believe), a father in Florida claimed his 
young son was hit on the head by a meteorite and got 3 stitches as a result.

Does anyone know if whatever struck the boy was actually a meteorite ? I tend 
to be extremely skeptical about these types of stories (such as Gerrit Blank 
who claimed he was hit on the arm in 2009 and it turned out to be a hoax).

Thank you

Andre Bordeleau
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Re: [meteorite-list] Death by Meteorite!

2014-06-02 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin via Meteorite-list
I have been reading about cases like these. Another claim in China was a rain 
of meteorites that killed thousands but the year of the event varies between 
1321 and 1361 ! Another, also in China, claims a woman lost an arm to a 
meteorite in 1915. A man supposedly died when the Barbotan meteorite struck in 
France in 1790. And so on.

And yes, Tunguska would have been devastating to a city...and it came within 4 
hours and 47 minutes from exploding over St. Petersburg ! You can imagine the 
level of destruction if that meteorite had been delayed by nearly 5 hours !

The article forgot about the Mbale meteorite; a young boy was struck on the 
head by a 3 gr. fragment that had been slowed down by leaves of a banana tree. 
Unlike Ann Hodges, he was not injured.

All in all, I take these claims of injuries and death to both humans and 
animals with a huge grain of salt unless there is solid documentation to back 
it up.

Andre

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Sent: June 2, 2014 11:25 AM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Death by Meteorite!

Hello Listers

This post makes you think about what if a meteor exploded over a big
city and events in the past that have taken place and what cane happen
in the future. The link I down below.

S

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
Website http://meteoritefalls.com


Death by Meteorite!

Supposedly, tens of thousands of people were killed during the
Chíing-yang meteorite shower in the Shansi province of China between
April and May of 1490. Modern researchers are generally skeptical about
the number of fatalities, which cannot be corroborated among the
multiple records of this event, but the figure is consistent with what
we might expect had the well-documented Tunguska event of 1908 occurred
over a densely populated urban area.

Researchers are skeptical of other deaths attributed to meteorites, such
as the death of a Franciscan friar in 1633, the deaths of two sailors in
the Indian Ocean in 1647, and the death of an Indiana man in his bed in
1879. The 1800s were a time of elaborate hoaxes staged for maximum press
coverage, so researchers take a dim view of most spectacular accounts
from the 19th century where no other people geographically nearby seem
to have observed anything out of the ordinary, such as in this next
story.

On March 10, 1897, in Martinsville, West Virginia, a meteor exploded
over the town. This was announced in a front-page New York Times article
published on March 11, 1897..


link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-sten-odenwald/death-by-meteorite_b_5416364.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway Rock

2014-04-10 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
A quick question about this; sorry if this has been discussed before. I looked 
at many videos and a few closeups of the rock. I failed to see a fusion crust. 
Wouldn't there be a fresh one if it had just entered the atmosphere ? Granted, 
there may be several explanations for this but I was just wondering.

Andre
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[meteorite-list] Meteor over Montreal

2013-11-28 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
Hello all,

This past Tuesday evening, during a snowstorm, a meteor exploded over Montreal. 
It rattled a few windows, made a loud boom and was seen through the clouds by 
an airline pilot. So far as I can tell, nothing made it to the ground.

Andre

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Mystery+Tuesday+boom+solved/9224471/story.html
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[meteorite-list] Photos from aftermath of meteorite in Russia

2013-02-15 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
Here is a link to 17 photos including a 6 meter (20 feet) hole in the ice 
surface of a lake.

The newspaper is in French.

Cheers

Andre

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/02/15/la-chute-de-meteorites-seme-la-panique-dans-loural
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite for Christmas

2012-12-19 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
My Christmas gift ? A nice slice of NEA 001 !

Merry Christmas to all 

Andre
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay victims of fake moon and mars meteorite scam

2012-06-07 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
Far from an expert here and a very small fry as a collector but two things:

1. The few times I bought meteorites were from established, honest dealers 
(bought one from Mike Farmer for instance). It never ceases to amaze me how 
gullible people can be, not that it excuses the scammers.
2. Since eBay won't budge, how about going media ? CNN, various national 
newspapers, etc. Perhaps eBay can be embarassed to do the right thing however 
reluctantly...

Andre

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[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of 
i...@moonmarsrocks.com [i...@moonmarsrocks.com]
Sent: June 7, 2012 11:46 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay victims of fake moon and mars meteorite  
scam

I like Shawn's idea of some kind of coordinated effort to contact all
the victims of steelhorse1994's scam. This can be done by going to the
flake's ebay feedback list where the buyer username and what they bought
is clearly indicated. I believe Ebay has an anti-spam trigger that
limits multiple messages to 10 or so per day per user. As I indicated
before, ebay has no interest whatsoever in reaching out to the victims
of this injustice. In fact they did not boot him completely off ebay, he
is still selling other items like silver bars (are they real, who
knows?). People should contact ebay and demand he be removed altogether.
Do you think they will listen? His last rock sales were the first week
of May so the bulk of his over 1000 sales are past the 45 day ebay
protection window. Some of the victims may be able to get paypal or
their credit card company to do something. By the way, most of the time
he was starting the sales at a 1 penny auction and ending at very low
prices relative to the large size of the rock (the one I got was at
minimum 20-25 mg), which also was a tip off to me.

More specifics: steelhorse1994 sold his fake moon and mars displays from
about October 2011 to early May 2012.  However, as best I can tell for
about a year before that (starting in October 2010 to Oct. 2011) under a
DIFFERENT username: spaceterrain4sale he was selling them. He still
has an ebay store but no items under that name and the feedback can be
viewed. And yes, at that time he was also selling deed titles to land on
the moon and mars and that dates back to Feb 2010. My theory is he got
in hot water with ebay about the deed title thing in Oct 2011 and that's
why he switched names and then only sold the rocks. It's so despicable!

I had already tried to get ebay to kick the guy off back in March based
on the bogus American Meteorite Collectors Society thing on his
displays, but they did not act. So, a lot of thanks go out to Dr.
Korotev who was willing to take the time to analyze the rock I sent him
and provide the hard science evidence.

Best regards,
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
i...@moonmarsrocks.com

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite dealer in Montreal

2011-03-05 Thread Deborah Anne K. Martin
Hello,

Are there meteorite dealers in the Montreal area ? A colleague wishes to buy an 
iron meteorite but he does not to purchase it on the internet. He would prefer 
to see it in person when he buys it.

Thanks

Andre
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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Hello all,

I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to 
lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly 
enjoy: meteorites.

Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article 
in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything 
else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain 
essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article 
up.

However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from 
this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic 
problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will 
ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as 
they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other 
contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, 
gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your 
business; I'm just not interested.

So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

Cheers

Andre
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[meteorite-list] Looking for tektites

2010-09-01 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Hello,

I am looking for a couple of tektites to be used at the Montreal Planetarium 
for our meteorite workshop. We are looking for something reasonably priced, 
preferably in the Montreal area if possible.

Thank you

Andre Bordeleau
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[meteorite-list] Need free Lunar micro - Update

2010-05-06 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Hello,

You might recall that I put up a call for lunar micros for a young boy (his 
name is Justin Labonte - a member questioned his identity and I answered rather 
curtly which I do regret) who has some problems in life. Some generous members 
here were kind enough to donate some material for a good cause. Just to let all 
know that I am preparing the micros and one small meteorite for what will be, I 
hope, an unforgettable collection for Justin. I will meet Justin, his mother 
and Mrs. Rossignol (the lady who contacted me) next Thursday. The mother has a 
friend who is a reporter for a French daily newspaper and others might be on 
hand as well (much to my surprise). Should any of this make it to news 
websites, I'll be sure to pass on the addresses to this list.

Cheers

Andre Bordeleau
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[meteorite-list] Need free Lunar micro

2010-03-17 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Good day all,

I received a rather unusual phone call at work (I work in a planetarium) 
yesterday: a 10 year old boy suffered a unspecified family trauma and getting 
him to speak (mother tongue is French) is practically impossible. However, a 
writer and social activist, the lady who called, seems to be slowly getting 
through. He has asked her for a moon rock and she called expecting that moon 
rocks were plentiful and cheap; she quickly became disabused of the notion.

Since we do sell meteorites, I suggested a small one which she is willing to 
pay out of her own pocket. I have to write a short note as an astronomer 
certifying it is a rock from space.

Then I thought of this group: would someone be willing to donate a lunar micro 
to the cause ? That would be greatly appreciated.

Please contact me off-list if interested.

Thank you

Andre Bordeleau
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Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-25 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
This is an urban legend. Walt Disney was cremated.

Andre Bordeleau

From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Phil Whitmer 
[prairiecac...@rtcol.com]
Sent: August 25, 2009 1:58 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

Darren:

That's funny!


But realistically, the percentage is much lower if you figure in the
complete lack of evidence for life on the Moon, Mars, all the other planets
and their moons, the Sun, all the asteroids,  all the comets, and any other
stuff that might be hanging around the edges of the Solar System. If there
is no evidence for life anywhere in the entire Solar System, (that I know
of),  even on such a life friendly place as Mars, then maybe life doesn't
just pop into existence just because conditions are right.  Maybe it is just
a one time thing.  I wish I could afford to be cryogenically frozen like
Walt Disney and wake up in a few million years to find out!


Phil Whitmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

2009-08-24 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
If they are truly intelligent, they won't talk to us !

Andre Bordeleau

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[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of Meteorites USA 
[e...@meteoritesusa.com]
Sent: August 24, 2009 7:42 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

Hi Listees,

On a lighter and much more important note...

...Some leading astronomers are quite confident that mankind will make
contact with intelligent alien life within two decades...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
www.meteoritesusa.com
www.Spacifieds.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] whats your job

2009-02-21 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Planetarium lecturer, 51 years old

Andre Bordeleau

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[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dunklee 
[sdunklee72...@yahoo.com]
Sent: February 19, 2009 11:50 AM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] whats your job

I work for a minning company in Arkansas and am 50 years old.
Steve Dunklee



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