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2009-08-26 Thread Dan Brumleve
Reminds me of a thought-experiment that I thought of...

If there are an infinite number of Earths stacked on top of each
other, how much gravity do you feel standing on top?

Dan
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2009-08-26 Thread Dan Brumleve
Sterling,

The solution I had in mind is the Newtonian one (curiously the value
is related to the probability of a random integer being divisible by a
square).  But I don't agree that an infinite number of anything is
necessarily nonsensical...  In this case (an infinite line of planets
with one end), the force is finite everywhere and never much larger
than 1G.  (Alternatively, if we were on the edge of an infinite
half-space packed with planets, the force would be infinite and the
situation much less reasonable, essentially as you described.)

I had never heard of Charlier universes, looks like an applicable
framework, I will read more about it, thanks!

Dan

On 8/26/09, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi, Dan, Rob, List,

 The key weasel-word in that puzzle is infinite.
 An infinite number of anything, no matter how
 small, even neutrons, has infinite mass and hence
 exerts infinite gravitational force.

 Your infinite stack of Earths will collapsr at the
 speed of light, having wrapped all space and time
 around itself. You are a string of particles stretched
 out over light years, with the tip of your nose pressed
 against the event horizon at the speed of light where
 you feel infinite force, but you are not moving because
 time is standing still for you, and you will stay that
 way forever... in your inertial frame.

 The Newtonian solution is simple. Using the central
 force assumption of Newtonian gravitation (hey! works
 for me!), the gravity you feel is the sum of an infinite series:
 1 + (1/3)^2 + (1/5)^2 + (1/7)^2 + (1/9)^2 + (1/11)^2 +
 (1/13)^2 + (1/15)^2 + (1/17)^2 + (1/19)^2 + ... =
 1.208722 G's! (approximately, OK?)

 Your problem is that your Earths are too close together.
 There is a cosmological solution that allows an infinite
 static universe with infinite mass to have a finite and low
 mass density. They're called Charlier universes, but I
 never met one. They're awfully empty...

 Experiment is the key to all knowledge. You stack up
 an infinite number of Earths, then time falling objects
 with a pendulum, or even better, time the pendulum...
 right in the heart of downtown Gedankenland.


 Sterling K. Webb
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 Reminds me of a thought-experiment that I thought of...

 If there are an infinite number of Earths stacked on top of each
 other, how much gravity do you feel standing on top?

 Dan
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[meteorite-list] Introduction and some cool photos

2009-03-27 Thread Dan Brumleve
Greetings Listoids,

Hello, I am new to the list and to meteorites.  Please enjoy these
microscopic photographs of my four pallasite slices:

http://free.radio.su/meteorites.html

These are taken at 100X and 400X with a ProScope, at or near the
olivine-iron boundary.  I'm pretty curious about some of these
features, especially on the Brenham.  Is it just surface rust?

Dan in Pacifica
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