Re: [meteorite-list] Book: The Rock from Mars: by Kathy Sawyer
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:37:35 -0700, you wrote: Has anyone read the book, The Rock from Mars? Is it worth buying? I haven't read it, but it has been on my wish list at Amazon for a long time, and every time I've noticed it, there have been hardback copies for 1 cent. I'd say give it a try, since you can get it for essentially only the cost of shipping. http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Mars-Detective-Story-Planets/dp/1400060109 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dawn Captures Video of Asteroid Vesta Approach
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:52:23 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: http://www.nasa.gov/dawn Oh, my god, it is a giant skull! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dawn Captures Video of Asteroid Vesta Approach
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:30:39 -0500, you wrote: It's possible Dawn might go on to Pallas if enough fuel remains, but I'm guessing Ceres will be more than enough interesting that we won't want to leave. Or Dawn could prove to have the Mars Rover Spirit! Personally, I believe that if Dawn does reach Pallas, it'll be parted nevermore. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:56:17 +0100, you wrote: You and that guy from Alberta Canada should collaborate on a video for moraine searching The guy from Alberta should handle all of the on-screen text __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A new study on Tagish Lake
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-meteorite-clues-chemistry-early-earth.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A fascinating story about a meteorite landing on a small Pacific island
A large meteorite lands on the island and a local professor and two sailors must deal with the dangers involved. You can download the documentary here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/67ej38 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ALERT--JERRY ARMSTRONG PAINTING MISSING
On Fri, 27 May 2011 14:36:05 -0400, you wrote: Around October 2009 Jerry Armstrong agreed to paint the nebula NGC 6302 for me. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/apo090910.html It is worse than you think-- the web page is missing, too! Postal Inspectors are looking into this and the FBI is sitting on the sidelines at this point. I don't think that it is exactly likely that the FBI is going to involve itself in lost packages. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Condrule photos
I've just uploaded some chondrule photos I made back in 2007 with a cheap USB microscope to facebook, for anyone interested in seeing them. The photos aren't as good as you'd get from a pro scope, but are still pretty good-- and there are some very nice chondrules in there. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.122619754487630.30619.12188170044l=67566895c6 (I'm not sure if anyone without a Facebook account can see them.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NASA To Launch New Science Mission To Asteroid In 2016
Interesting interpretation of the acronym in the video-- _O_rigins _S_pectral _I_nterpretation _R_esource _I_dentification _S_ecurity _RE_golith _E_xplorer or OSIRISREE. Shouldn't that be _O_rigins _S_pectral _I_nterpretation _R_esource _I_dentification _S_ecurity _R_egolith _EX_plorer ? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nice space junk
Anyone looking for a fusion-crusted Vostok bolt? http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6052LotIdNo=56026#Photo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bigfoot and the Nakhla Dog - what do they havein common?
On Sun, 22 May 2011 20:56:43 -0400, you wrote: I didn't post anything to the list the first time, but time to call you out on this. Keep your anit-religious believes off this forum I'm sure that he didn't _mean_ to offend members of the Church of Bigfoot! http://bigfootbooks.webs.com/bigfootscientist.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Interesting lunar crater
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/05/11/a-flower-bloom-on-the-moon/#more-31137 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dawn photographs Vesta
Shockingly, Vesta seems to be a cluster of Borg cubes! http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/news/dawn20110511.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!
Obama gets to wave a birth certificate AND a death certificate in the same week! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!
The success of the mission hinged on a tragic mistake in Bin Laden's camp-- when the Americans were approaching, Osama radioed Mayday, mayday, but his guards thought that he was celebrating International Workers' Day. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] freebies to go
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:15:45 -0400, you wrote: If you want the truth about why oil is skyrocketing. Google *hedge funds* they are the problem . It is making hedge fund managers Billionaires. HEDGE funds? So, it is the fault of a bush. I knew it. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:15:53 -0700, you wrote: G'Day Richard, Michael and list ( I'm away from my bookshelf at the moment so can't cite pages unfortunately. ) 92-93 a good starting point. Check out page 149 (as numbered in the PDF) or page 137 (as numbered in the book) http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ps9qu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT story
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:13:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00), you wrote: Hi all, I cannot recall seeing accurate reporting on anything scientific in the Lame Street Media. Absolutely. http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1623 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A second-tier cola going meteorite hunting?
See Dr. Pepper's question on Slashdot: http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/03/25/2148252/Ask-Slashdot-What-Gadgets-Would-You-Use-For-Hunting-Meteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:29:19 -1000, you wrote: Shipping has absolutely NOTHING to do with ebay! Why should ebay get revenue on their seller's expense? Probably aimed at those who try to game the system by having artificially low BIN prices and artificially high shipping prices so that they can make their profit off of the shipping without paying a fee on it. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not to worry. Nukes are good?
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:15:43 -0600, you wrote: Fukushima was never designed for a quake like this, I suspect; almost no nuclear facility is. It was tested for 7.9.: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/12/japan-fukushima-oper.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Here's a live English news feed on Al Jazeera: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ and the NHK: http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
A long video clip of the tsunami here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709850 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:58:30 -0800, you wrote: I think we should give Michael Farmer a chance... Especially concidering that the reason he was kicked off in the first place was for mentioning Steve Arnold's legal troubles on the list. Which, if one will recall, was a topic of conversation by several members not very long ago... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CI1 meteorites and cyanobacteria
More scholarship from the Journal of Cosmology: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/i_am_getting_a_very_poor_impre.php __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CI1 meteorites and cyanobacteria
Here's PZ Myers' take on it. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/did_scientists_discover_bacter.php __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CI1 meteorites and cyanobacteria
Here's PP's take on it over at Bad Astronomy. The fact that it is any way connected with wackjob Chandra Wickramasinghe is not a good sign. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/05/has-life-been-found-in-a-meteorite/#more-29102 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CI1 meteorites and cyanobacteria
A press release from the journal that published the paper. Does any journal that writes crap like that deserve ANY credibility? http://daviddobbs.posterous.com/journal-of-cosmology-going-out-with-big-bang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT transpermia vs. God vs. Science
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:38:32 -0500, you wrote: Okay, So how does the lesson change because it was written by somebody else? Are the facts wrong? Maybe it was written by Joe Blow? http://www.indianskeptic.com/chain-mail-god-vs-science/ http://www.rationalresponders.com/debunking_an_urban_legend_evil_is_a_lack_of_something __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT transpermia vs. God vs. Science
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:24:34 -0800, you wrote: SNOPES? What proves that SNOPES is true? http://xkcd.com/250/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trans-topica vs. meteorites
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:42:09 -0800, you wrote: have some ammo for the political debates surrounding climate-change claiming that man-kind (and woman-kin) are in charge of what happens down here on the planet...for me, meteorites and now knowing about impacts and potential mass-extinctions-in-an-instant-of-time is more than enough evidence for me to recognize that there is a missing element in the human-cause discussion. Setting the correctness or lack thereof of current global warming models aside, arguing that humans aren't impacting the environment because there are instances of environment being impacted by outside factors is akin to arguing that someone can't be killed by smoking because sometimes people get shot. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trans-topica vs. meteorites
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:36:01 -0800, you wrote: I wrote in charge. Okay then, then the analogy is that we shouldn't worry about taking care of our health because we might be shot some day. Just because there are factors impacting our lives and environment that are outside our control in no way invalidates attempting to avoid doing damage that we CAN control. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Have a meteorite mess that you need to clean up?
Try the meteorite sweeper! http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Sweepers-54-square-inch-Meteorite-Sweeper/dp/B0012DPKY0/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A chance photo discovery
I was browsing through a PDF of photos of New Deal WPA activities, when on page 33 I found Archeological digs employed WPA labor, including this excavation at the site of the Odessa meteor crater in Ector County, Texas. http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/pdfs/ppDIRwpa.pdf __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] changed to: Trials and Tribulations We'll Beliving With For a While
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:50:47 -0500, you wrote: By what I have read and watched, it sounds like the simple remedy of returning 25% of the material might not be an option. It would depend on how many of the stones have been dissolved away in the acid baths. The farmer seeme pretty displeased with Steve as a person-- perhaps he'd be willing to settle for Steve dissolving away 25% of himself in an acid bath. One arm and one leg would likely suffice. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How to use meteorites if your sick.....
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:38:35 -0500, you wrote: Actually I believe that the power of the mind is a better tool for healing ones illnesses. I'll tell you what-- if by some horrible coincidence we both develop cancer at the same time, I'll take chemo and you think positively. Then you can will your meteorites to me after the cancer kills you. We still dont have the faintess idea of how much of the power in our brains we actually use. Somewhere I think it is less than 10%, correct me if I am wrong. Okey dokey: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10-percent-of-brain http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] We just miss a nice new fall.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/04/breaking-sofa-sized-asteroid-gives-us-a-close-shave/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson - who's attending this year?
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:36:33 -0500, you wrote: Have a Dos Equis for me. ;) Isn't that the broadway play where Harry Potter has sex with a horse?!? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Last update on my personal situation
I feel obliged to give this last update to my personal issue that I brought up last week, then I'll stop with the off-topic posting. My grandmother passed away tonight at 11:11 PM. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Need to sell some meteorites
I want to thank everyone who has had interest in buying the meteorites and has had concern for my grandmother. Since I vented on the list, I thought I'd give a little update. (Stick around for the end.) Friday night, the 24th, when I had to take her to the hospital, she had suddenly had a major change in her mental clarity-- she had been reasonably lucid before (but with short-term memory issues) but over the course of maybe half an hour that night she dropped away to sentence fragments and gibberish. I thought that she was dying at that very moment. By the time I got her to the hospital, she was fully unresponsive-- still ALIVE, but no reactions to anything-- speech, noises, movement, no flinches when being stuck with needles-- nothing. She remained that way all that night (I stayed in the room) and all the next day-- no movements or speech whatsoever in reaction to anything, even loud clapping in front of her face (except of some groans when being lifted and moved around, which might have been reflexive.) The doctors diagnosed problems-- pneumonia, possibly a kidney infection-- but they gave no indication that they thought she would ever regain conciousness, and what they were advising me on was signing a DNR and possible ways to keep her comfortable and not treatments (although the were pumping heavy-duty antibiotics into her.) So I go in this morning, ready to sign the DNR the doctor was scheduled to talk to me about again, and as I came near the room I saw a nurse had positioned her workstation in the doorway to my grandmother's room, and I figured that she was soon to be gone. The nurse and I talked for a couple of minutes, she told me that she was watching because she was worried about her breathing (heavy, somewhat phlegmy) said that he hadn't reacted to anything while I was gone other than a groan when moved, and left. Then I saw that my grandmother had her hand against her face insted of lying down-- and I thought I saw it move. I asked her if she was awake, and she was able to answer me. She knew who she was, who I was, she was able to ask questions and answer them (even if you have to repeat the question to her a couple of times, and if she would ask the same question again 5 minutes later.) She is far from clear headed, and not even as lucid as she was before 2 days ago, but she seems to have improved throughout the day, and before this morning I had absolutely no expectation of her ever being concious again. The same doctor I spoke with yesterday didn't mention the DRN again today and instead was asking me to think about future healthcare (while reminding me that she still is a long way from being out of the woods.) So I don't know how much she will recover or IF she'll recover or if this is a short anomaly, but I don't think that anyone at the hospital expected even this degree of recovery. So I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet, but there is at least the possibility of my not losing my current job yet with the immediacy that I was thinking of when I vented last night. (Even so, I still want to sell the meteorites I mentioned.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need to sell some meteorites
The need has come for me to try to sell some of my meteorites quickly. Most of you don't know this about me, but for several years since my mother died, I've been the live-in 24 hour caregiver for my elderly (recently turned 90) grandmother-- I've obvously not been working outside the home for all this time, and my grandmother and I lived off my 401k money, my mother's 401k money, and my mother's life insurance money until that was all used, and since then on her social security money only. On yesterday the 24th my grandmother took a major turn for the worse and is in the hospital with not likely long to live. Which brings me to my need to sell a few meteorites-- I need some cash to tide me over until I manage to start working again. I don't have many valuable or rare ones, but these three are ones I thought somone might be interested in, if anyone would like to make an offer: Potter Nebraska 22g (personally collected by Dirk Ross) featured on Rocks from Space http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_27.html 2 fragments of Weston, Connecticut in a membrane box, totaling .194g (from the Dirk Ross collection) An 18-gram part-slice of NWA 987- specimen and many of it's chondrules seen here: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/987/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] National Geographic. Naked Science - Alien Fireballs
Download links: http://avaxhome.ws/video/series/National_Geographic_Naked_Science_Alien_Fireballs_HDTV_720p.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Finds New Life Form
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 10:03:00 -0800 (PST), you wrote: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/12/nasa-finds-new-life/ Jesus, is Jesus there heavy on the hyperbole! Here's an article written by someone who ISN'T a complete idiot. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/12/bacteria-can-integrate-arsenic-into-its-dna-and-proteins.ars __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Astrobiology Discovery in black and white
I think it'll be something about the space cookies. http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=fpz=1cf=allned=ushl=enq=astrobiology+oreos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men make Boing Boing
Don't worry, make Boing Boing isn't a euphamism for a post about their sex lives. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/18/meteorite-men-interv.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Particles brought back by Hayabusa identified as from Itokawa
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:43:30 +0900, you wrote: like LL5--6? I was just about to post the same link-- the world's most expensive ordinary chondrite! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canadians steal crystaline meteorite aliens
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2010/10/21/yukon-space-rock-sabo.html?ref=rss#socialcomments __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:31:56 -0400, you wrote: Here are two examples of the unconscious ideomotor response in action. The female subject had never heard of dowsing, yet by pure coincidence her ideomotor responded the same as mine. In the first video, the woman tilts her left hand slightly inwards from the wrist at the end of the arc. In the second, you lean forward at the waist at the end of the arc. All this is evidence is the idiotmotor effect. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Earth Magnets Might Get Rarer!
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:23:39 -0700, you wrote: Someone, quick, start a rare earth mineral mining company! And the richest seams to mine? Landfills. On a similar note-- http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0806/ref.shtml http://www.science20.com/news_releases/next_on_the_endangered_list_helium __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Dowsing is real, but exoplanets are dubious?!
Fresh off the keyboard today: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/18/gallery-of-exoplanets-real-pictures-of-alien-worlds/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] You Naysaying Denialists Are All Wrong, Dowsing Works!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:29:37 -0400, you wrote: cancelled the effect. Direct contact with the galvanic skin response or electrodermal conductance response, whatever you want to call it is essential for it to work. Before dowsing was done with bent pieces of metal, it was done with wooden sticks. Does your magical electro-whatsis work on wood, too, or was all of the dowsing using wood actually superstition before the real metal-based dowsing came along? http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/water_dowsing/pdf/water_dowsing.pdf Maybe you can advance to hand dowsing http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/344 You and a few others can make fun of me all you want Thanks-- I will. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] You Naysaying Denialists Are All Wrong, Dowsing Works!
Here are kits you can use to find meteorites-- looks like they can be tuned to any mineral! http://simmonsscientificproducts.com/products.html (I guess these are the fake dowsing rods, though-- not the real ones that operate via handwavium.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] You Naysaying Denialists Are All Wrong, Dowsing Works!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 03:02:17 -0400, you wrote: Eric, That's ok. This is all just good fun, it's nothing personal. When you're arguing from a position of ignorance and basically don't know what you're talking about, you have to resort to ridicule. When you have no factual information to back up your argument, the only thing you can do is make fun of people. Glad that you have a clear impression of yourself. Darren, you need to focus your mind. You're getting a little scatterbrained. I never once mentioned wood dowsing. Why would you bring it up, it has nothing to do with my argument. It's completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. I know nothing about it. I'm talking strictly about wire rod dowsing which I know for a fact works. Focus dude! It is ENTIRELY relevant. The practice of dowsing using wood came BEFORE that of using metal. Are you going to claim that the old fake practice of wood dowsing just happened to be kinda sorta like the real dowsing to later be discovered via metal? The only thing being demonstrated here is the almost infinite ability of people who lack critical thinking skills to fool themselves. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] You Naysaying Denialists Are All Wrong, Dowsing Works!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 03:09:09 -0400, you wrote: Darren, How is posting some flakey links and making lame jokes an intelligent argument? Is that really the best you got? You do know what a debate is right? You're acting like a 12 year old. (not that there's anything wrong with that.) I mean come on, my posts have footnotes for chrissakes! Here are the insults you flung in only ONE of your posts. It looks like your understanding of debate and intelligent argument are derived from Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. get off your high horses come down from your ivory towers parroting dogmatic drivel appealing to the authority of idiots psuedo-intellectual arrogance phony elitism in my life the puny intellect of anyone here is but the beginnings of a pimple on the left butt cheek of Albert Einstein. The dowser denialist nattering nabobs of negativity vociferous, self-important dowser denialists before running your mouth about something you know nothing about. hard to eat crow with all the mouthing off __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Einstein on dowsing
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:28:13 -0700, you wrote: When people say they believe in dowsing, what they are really saying is that they believe in a human sixth sense -- for instance, the ability to detect minute fluctuations in electromagnetic fields. An interesting side note is that recent studies indicate that at least some bird species SEE magnetic fields. So not a 6th sense, but an augmentation of vision. So unless dowsers are claiming that they literally see magnetic field distortions, I think they'll need to drop the bird navigation analogy. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/07/08/robins-can-literally-see-magnetic-fields-but-only-if-their-vision-is-sharp/ http://discovermagazine.com/2007/oct/birds-navigate-using-magnetic-compass-vision __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Dowsing is real, but exoplanets are dubious?!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:18:14 -0700, you wrote: would be personal unfamiliarity with the rather bullet-proof science. That would not suprise me in the slightest after reading this: I don't pretend to understand how this phenomenon works, any more than I understand how the dynamo at the Earth's center started to generate a magnetosphere, or how or why the Earth started to spin in the first place. With the emphasis on the not knowing how or why the Earth started to spin-- he acts like conservation of angular momentum is some sort of weird mystery-- which is Insane Clown Logic: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/04/08/insane-clown-posse-miracles/ (Unlike his stance on the possibility on extraterrestrial life, which is just classic Insane Troll Logic http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic ) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Dowsing is real, but exoplanets are dubious?!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 18:07:25 -0400, you wrote: I'm going to need to see a visible light photograph of an exoplanet to confirm their existence. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101015105935.htm http://www.universetoday.com/21025/hubble-take-first-visible-light-image-of-extrasolar-planet/ http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=4266 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30965444/ Quoting you from an earlier post: Anyone else see the humor in this? I sure as hell am. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by none other than Randy himself. I think I may have stumbled on the video you are talking about: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7461912885649996034# Found while searching Bad Astronomy for links on the Iraqi dowsing rods story (because I remembered reading a few there in the past.) http://discovermagazine.com/search?SearchableText=dowsingSubmit.x=0Submit.y=0 (Caution-- this guy believes in crazzzy pseudoscience like black holes and exoplanets!) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Dowsing is real, but exoplanets are dubious?!
Rich, you could really save yourself some typing time by just using this site: http://randomtextgenerator.com/ (Unless--that is-- you already are.) On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:28:06 -0600, you wrote: Just as the active software on a laptop limits powerfully the possible offerings of the global Internet, strongly held personal beliefs and habits of conscious experience strongly limit the field of awareness and the range of acceptible experience. Thus, skeptics re the paranormal refrain from deliberate experiential personal exploration of traditions re expanded awareness and nonstandard belief and experience -- the only route to personal conviction in realms that are hypernormal, ie radically not normal by mainstream scientific consensus. A Ouija board device will indeed function well in detecting explosives and terrorists, and therefore also at detecting, by nonresponse, situations involving skeptics who set up simulations in which weapons and explosives are not carried by committed terrorists bent on impending suicide and murder. All Ouija board devices work according to the accepting faith and conviction of the user, for each person is in fact a unique individualized forever evolving expression of the totality of the single hyperreality. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] You Naysaying Denialists Are All Wrong, Dowsing Works!
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:17:27 -0400, you wrote: dowser(s) enter the realm of simple, dogmatic drivel and idiots. Yep. this to work. They must be held loosely so they can move freely of their own accord. If you grip them too tightly, the experiment won't work. Yes, the reason the rods must be gripped loosely is so that there is as little fiction preventing movement of the rods as possible. The outright dowsing rods are an dynamically unstable, unbalanced system-their center of gravity is along the length of the horizontal rod, not centered on the axis. Therefore, in a minimum friction setting, they will remain motionless ONLY if there is ZERO tilt off perfectly horizontal and ZERO acceleration. If you hand moves for a fraction of a degree off of perfect level, the rods will move. And you don't move forward smoothly like a machine-- each step that you take is a lifting of part of your body, a fall forward, and a bump. Walk very slowly? Just makes it even more jerky. At that point, something called Newton's First Law of Motion comes into effect (you do venerate Newton as much as Einstein, right?) When held loosely, a dowsing rod does not act as a component of a rigid system that is you but as a separate body lying within-you are driving along in your car, tap your brakes, and your cell phone on the dash slides towards the windshield. You are walking while holding the dowsing rods and that means the dowsing rods are moving along at velocity X. Your velocity increases or decreased by a small amount that you don't even consciously notice-maybe even just because you are lifting one foot and putting down another-the dowsing rod will attempt to continue to move at velocity X for a fraction of a second while the hands holding it are now moving at velocity X+1 or X-1. The dowsing rod is thus made to change velocity to match-and the change causes the rod (which is, as I mentioned, a dynamically unstable, unbalanced system) reacts to this by moving about the axis in your hands. The only way to make dowsing tests objective and reproducible is to remove all chance of change in tilt and change in velocity from the experiment-which is why I suggested a mechanical setup. A person is simply an innately unreliable platform for fine-level stability and steadiness. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dowsing for meteorites--had to try it
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:44:06 +0100 (BST), you wrote: I've watched this thread with some bemusement I must admit.Having never tried this dowsing lark I automatically dismissed it as bunkum.But I have just conducted an admittedly short and not very scientifically sound experiment also with large meteorites.Amazingly the rods do cross over my 6 kilo Gibeon and even my little 630gram Canyon Diablo.However they also crossed over 2 large stone meteorites that I tested both in the 3700 gram range.Weird Now see if they cross over a styrofoam cup, a Pennsylvania state quarter, a Garfield comic clipped from Sunday's newspaper, and a sleeping dog (but let it lie.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Clay meteorites?
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Do we have to keep an open mind to the possibility of finding a clay meteorite? Yep. http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=ensafe=offbiw=800bih=490q=%22carbonaceous+chondrites%22+clayaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stop Naysaying! (Was: Try divining rods over a large iron)
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:06:53 -0500, you wrote: Are you aware that your name (sans souci) means no worries or carefree, cheerful and unbothered by the trivia of life, one who lives in a buoyant and untroubled manner? So-- his name is essentially Warren Peace? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stop Naysaying! (Was: Try divining rods over a large iron)
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:14:05 -0700, you wrote: So, I made myself a pair from wire clothes hanger, following Warren's instructions and went out to my side yard. My front and back yard are compeltely cemented over. I made it out about 3 feet and the rods crossed over. WTH!! I doubled back and they crossed over at the same spot! I walked over the entire yard and came back at the same spot. Yep, they crossed over! I can't wait till my sons come home so they repeat this experiment. To have a truly objective test, I'd propose the construction of some sort of rig that holds rods (which are precisely straight and bent to exactly 90 degrees) exactactly perpendicular to the surface, then moved at a slow, steady, speed in a precisely level track. Some sort of powered, rolling device with good shock absorbers, or something machine-guided across level, tight wires. In other words, a setup that precludes any twitches, movements out of level, changes in accelration, or any other subconcious factors that would cause a low-friction system to move and can't be eliminated by a human holding it. A real experiment attempts to eliminate all variables execpt for the one variable being tested for-- in this case, testing for movement caused by buried objects and NOT by movement on the part of the person (or machine) holding the rods. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:52 -0600, you wrote: If someone out there with a baseball size or larger iron wouldn't mind performing a little test with it I would appreciate hearing back from them on how it turned out. To test what I had in mind you will need to make a couple metal divining rods out of coat hangers or something similar. Let me save you some time-- diving rods are superstitious bullshit. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:54:10 -0700, you wrote: I couldn't resist on this one. With all due respect,some of the members of the list need to visit www.randi.org Randi himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4 The ideomotor effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect http://www.skepdic.com/dowsing.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by none other than Randy himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAasVXtCOI I'm still waiting to see a real, double blind, uncorrupted experiment on this, several in fact, before I'm convinced that there is a real effect at work here. It is actually caused by an infinite amount of magnetite in our wrists. http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg72163.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:38:52 -0400, you wrote: I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous system to certain factors which are unknown to us at this time. - Albert Einstein Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the old one. I, at any rate, am convinced that He does not throw dice. -Albert Einstein (Just in case the jab wasn't obvious, Einstein was wrong.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norways TV-astronomer KJR Ødega ard helps decovers Norways 2nd largest meteorite!?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:02:38 -0700, you wrote: I see no reason why feats of strength should not be added to the Birthday Bash. Wouldn't that dilute the meaning of Festivus? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:12:08 -0600, you wrote: Although an exploration mission certainly is not going to happen anytime in the next few decades or longer, it wouldn't require an unrealistic advance in propulsion technology to get a small spacecraft that distance in a fairly reasonable time- say a couple hundred years. You don't need to travel the speed of light. So nobody has to redo the math: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/10/04/so-how-long-would-it-take-to-travel-to-that-exciting-new-exoplanet/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:37:43 -0500, you wrote: On the other hand, we might be able to make a 100-year probe by the end of the century. Just playing around with that time-frame. To get a probe there in 100-years (with a probe that accelerates to the mid-point, flips over, then decelerates to the destination) at a constant acceleration would require the acceleration to be .00825 Gs. Maximum speed would be around .39 c. To make the trip in 200 years would require .002 Gs and a maximum of .02 c. (Using this calculator and a distance of 10.5 ly) http://mysite.verizon.net/res148h4j/javascript/script_starship.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet?
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:11:15 -0500, you wrote: Maybe we won't hear from them until they find out their favorite show was cancelled? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Aliens_Attack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] An 18th century depiction of a meteor
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/houghton/2010/09/24/look-up-in-the-sky/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:27:42 -0500, you wrote: Because it would have 3 times the water but only two times the surface, the average ocean depth would be about 4500 meters! The pressure at the depths of these oceans would be about 9000 atmospheres. The highest mountains possible would be about 4000 meters (calculating from the median diameter), so if you were the greatest mountain climber on this Super Earth, standing on the top of Super Earth's highest mountain, you would still have 500 meters of water above you! Which has serious implications to the types of life that would be possible/likely. On Earth, the elements needed by the primary producers in the ocean (phytoplankton) are mostly supplied from erosion of the land-- either supplied through run-off into the ocean or through wind-blown sand and dust. No land means no elements delivered to the top layers of the ocean means that the phytoplankton equivalent would be limited to only the equilibrium-state elements dissolved into the sea water which means orders of magnitude lower biomass production as compared to a world with continents and erosion. Think of agricultural nitrate and phosphate run-offs causing algal blooms. Think of experiments seeding the ocean surface with iron leading to as much as 85x increase in growth of diatoms. Very low production of phytoplankton means very low production of zooplankton, means very small production of the critters that eat the plankton, means very low production of the critters that eat the critters that eat the plankton... The most likely ecosystems on a waterworld would be hydrothermal vent communities with primary producers being chemoautotrophs, the way they are on the abyssal plains of Earth. You could imagine life-forms that would bulk up on building blocks down at the hydrothermal vents and then migrate to the surface waters, but _why would they_? It would be a stretch to imagine selective pressures that would lead to that. If you are currently packing for a trip to Gliese 581g, you better make room for Alvin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutrophication http://www.palomar.edu/oceanography/iron.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Well, he always did have a rapier wit...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/terry-pratchett-creates-a-sword-with-meteorites/story-e6frfro0-1225926584339 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroids Are Back In Vogue
Asteroids are back in vogue ?? http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6861/asteroidsinvogue.jpg ?? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:06:15 -0500, you wrote: Another issue (probably more important) is that lunar escape velocity is only 2.4 km/s and very little material ejected from the Moon is going much faster than that. This velocity compares with 20-40 km/s for asteroidal meteorites. Is a rock entering the atmosphere at 2.4 km/s going to noticeably incandesce? I don't know. The minimum velocity of a meteor entering the Earth's atmosphere is Earth's escape velocity of 11.2 km/s. The escape velocity of the parent body is irrelevant. http://www.google.com/#hl=ensource=hpq=minimum+speed+meteoraq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai=CvX3Z76yGTOLhPIOIyAStwKCTBQAAAKoEBU_QhF8-pbx=1fp=983d1b7d11262f2f __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on OC Choppers
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:48:07 -0400, you wrote: One bike, two meteorite men. Who gets to keep it? Do they get joint custody with alternating weekends? ;) Obvously, Arnold rides up front, Notkin rides behind. Hold on tight, Geoff! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bad Universe S01E01: Asteroid Apocalypse
SD: Part 1: http://hotfile.com/dl/65696771/3e2e077/Bad.Universe.S01E01.Asteroid.Apocalypse.HDTV.XviD-MOMENTUM.part1.rar.html OR http://www.fileserve.com/file/2Zcsjf4 Part 2: http://hotfile.com/dl/65696772/eddf083/Bad.Universe.S01E01.Asteroid.Apocalypse.HDTV.XviD-MOMENTUM.part2.rar.html OR http://www.fileserve.com/file/673DFZ7 HD: Well, I won't try to post the links to each part, but you can find them here: http://avaxhome.ws/video/Format/documentary/discovery_channel_bad_universe_s01e01_asteroid_apocalypse_720p_hdtv.html (Site requires some percautions with pop-up blockers and such.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Impact Crater Found
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:49:00 +0200 (SAST), you wrote: have to report it to goverment museum. So good people I'm sorry, I won't report or give any details about it, unless I will get something in return, obviously I need money as well. I have contacted the museum but they told me that it belong to the goverment. So I just left it there I never continued, It would rather stay undiscovered as it is rather than giving my find to someone who will profit with it while I didn't. I think I likely speak for the majority of list memebers when I say-- go fuck yourself. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:25:30 -0700, you wrote: I'm curious how many of us meteorite addicts are actually believers in extraterrestrial life, or at the very least are open to the possibility. Anyone who is not open to the possibility of exterrestrial life-- meaning anyone who is convinced that the only POSSIBLE life in the entire universe is that on Earth-- is an effing nitwit. Having said that, I'm agnostic on fossils in Martian meteorites and am not even close to beginning to swallow fossils in carbonaceous chondrites. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cyanobacteria in meteorites?
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:26:31 -0700, you wrote: Ok, I'll go with that first part... But why do you doubt fossilized microbes in carbonaceous meteorites? One, because the report so far utterly lacks the extreme degree of scientific rigor needed for such an extreme story and two, because it flies in the face of common sense plausibility for complex life (and yes, bacteria are complex life) could have evolved on a carbonaceous chondrite parent body before it went cold and dry. I'm going to need much, much, much more evidence than an article at a wingnut panspermia site. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:39:48 -0700, you wrote: ;) Patience... Historically there's a process of belief vs proof and that helps hypothesis and theory to evolves into self evident fact.. At first people are not receptive and it gets ignored, then they argue against it, then it becomes plausible, and finally it becomes a viable theory, which in turn becomes fact based on empirical evidence. And, at times, the evidence is ambigious and questionable. ALH84001 is one of those times. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/meteorites/alhnpap.html http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/meteorites/alhnpapers_archive.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WAS Cyanobacteria in meteorites? NOW: Life in Meteorites
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:15:18 -0700, you wrote: If one looks hard enough at anything with a skeptical mind ambiguity will present itself in all it's subjective glory. As does confirmation bias. Are you REALLY suggesting that people shouldn't look at information skeptically and point out flaws in it? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 5 chances in 8 Sean O'Keefe is dead.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/10/alaska.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=T1iref=BN1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Putting it all in perspective
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/2585/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A picture of everything
Well, everything that isn't down. http://www.hpcwire.com/features/Recomputing-the-Sky-98342554.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More photoshopped moon landing sites
Will those lunar landing believerists stop at nothing with their conspiracy? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/07/14/apollo-16-site-snapped-from-orbit/#more-18636 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Flyby of Asteroid 21 Lutetia
Full resolution photos: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Rosetta/SEM44DZOFBG_0.html My favorite is the one with Saturn in the background-- you can make out just a hint of the rings. If only there had been more megapixels to throw at the shot. It is a little more clear in negative: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1913/lutesat.jpg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Flyby of Asteroid 21 Lutetia
The photo: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/asteroid-lutetia-spacecraft-flyby-100710.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Here are all the images in a zip. http://www.sendspace.com/file/4hu4w5 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:05:09 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Yeah. Darren. Looks like you have a Trojan on those chondrite photos. Then Angelfire has a trojan, and if it is real and not a false positive (no signs of anything here with Firefox and pop-up, flash, and ad blockers) there's nothing I can do about it. Angelfire attaches it's own ads to pages. The gallery was generated by an applet in Photoshop, and is nothing but HTML. The pages have been sitting there since Oct. 2007. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:34:11 -0400, you wrote: America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. Tolerence does not mean treating nutty ideas as respectable just because someone REALLY believes it. The term for that is political correctness. As the saying goes-- You have the right to your own opinions, but you don't have the right to your own facts. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/9972 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oh, buoy! Two new meteorwrongs!
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12541538 http://www.wdtn.com/dpps/military/Navy-plane-drops-buoy-on-Florida-house_3378473 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dont skip looking at this!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/24/lunar-boulder-hits-a-hole-in-one/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Damn! I shoulda gone beach combing!
Washed up on a South Carolina beach (I'm in SC) http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=12534303 The next trick would have been driving around 250 miles home with that strapped to the roof... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Probable launch debris recovered from South Carolina
Video here: http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/local/article/space_debris_that_washed_up_on_hilton_head_could_be_european_rocket/140457/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Don't skip looking at this!
On Tue, 25 May 2010 12:05:11 +1000, you wrote: Thanks for sharing that Darren. I took a look at the main image. There are many such 'moving boulders' visible across it with many much longer than the one mentioned in the blog. Some are even large arcs. Fascinating stuff. http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/M122597190LE I see what you mean. I downloaded the full-resolution TIF (5064x29696, 143 MB) and found this one (contrast adjusted to make it stand out more) http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/220/curverock.jpg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
