Re: [meteorite-list] A special request
I met Larry Sloan when we got together to form the Colorado Meteorite Society in the early days of this century. He was always friendly, cheerful and ready to help or go hunt meteorites. That is what he seemed to like best and is also what I like to do best! Larry is my hero because while I most often have an excuse why I can’t go hunting right now, Larry had loaded his ATV, hooked up his trailer, and headed to the latest strewnfield or set out to find a new one. I did get to hunt with Larry in 5 states in the Southwest. When I was headed to or home from Tucson, I would call him to get his current location and drive out to find him dry camped by himself many miles from any blacktop road. He loved to share his photos of his latest finds of meteorites or interesting rocks. Larry loved the science of Meteoritics and donated many specimens to labs, schools, and Museums. I can’t imagine how different Tucson will be this year without Larry’s grinning face to brighten each day. Some days he would show up first thing in the morning wearing his self-collected chondrite belt buckle carrying a box of doughnuts sent by ET and Patrick Thompson. In the late afternoon after I had spent a long day in the sun and wind, Larry would show up with a red solo cup of ET’s out of this world Margaritas in each hand for me and my friend Ralph. I don’t expect to meet a finer person and friend than Larry Sloan! I like Dana’s thought that Larry might not be ready to RIP but to work on sending us some special rocks from Heaven. Keep on hunting! Fred Olsen, Denver On Fri, 12/9/16, KD Meteorites via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: Subject: [meteorite-list] A special request To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, December 9, 2016, 6:00 PM To the meteorite community: We were Larrys' "other" family, and I know he touched so many of us over the years in many different ways. I would like to ask anyone who has any pictures of their times with Larry and any stories of Larry to please email them to me. I would like to create some memories of how Larry touched all our lives throughout the years and share them with his "biological" family. :-) I think it will warm their heats to know how special he was to so many of us. So please email your pictures and stories to me at: meteoritel...@yahoo.com I will also update you with the funeral info once it has been decided. Thank you. Dana Meteorite Lady Rocks! __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas! and Happy Holidays to all the members of the IMCA I am having too much fun with my new Nikon D610 camera that's fits nicely on my Nikon petrographic microscope. I have an amazing zoned olivine in a Jrifiya martian thin section in the cross hairs just now. YEA, at last I have a good camera/microscope setup. About six weeks ago I scored 100% on a test, everyone always told me that was the goal and a good thing, well maybe not. My right coronary artery is 100% blocked! Not to worry, I think these RCA's are over rated. With a few more drugs and exercise I am good to go, no fuss no muss. I also looking forward to seeing many of you in Tucson in just a few weeks. I will be in my usual spot by the big brown Moroccan tent in front of the Hotel Tucson City Center. Fred Olsen Mineral and Fossil Supply. " Denver Rockboxes" Member #2601 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Munich show book report
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 11:17 AM, debf...@att.net debf...@att.net wrote: Oct 31 at 5:13 PM Wow! What a beautiful well written Book! Dave Bunk and Gloria Staebler just returned from Germany and brought me a copy of the Theme (Meteorite) Book from the Munich Show. I have not had time to read it all but wanted to let the list members they would do well to get a copy for themselves! The photos are out of this world! The European historical meteorite stories are well researched and illustrated. Fantastic! Wonderfull job! Thank You, Thank You to all the authors and those who made this book possible! I anxiously await the time to read and examine each and every page! Best Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - HUGE Wells Creek Shattercones
Recently there have been several postings about this fascinating site. I have listed on ebay a huge seventeen pound, yes that is 17 pounds, over 7000 grams, shattercone from Wells Creek Crater, Tennessee. See ebay item # 2235675811 that closes on 4/6/04. or use link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2235675811category=3239 . Beautiful examples of horse tailing can be seen in this specimen. This is the largest sample I have seen from this location and am only selling this duplicate from my collection to make room for other impact materials. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norwegian Meteorites
Does anyone know what the rules governing the exportation of meteorites from Norway? Thanks, Fred Olsen, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver
Jeannie, Denver show 2004 will be on September 17, 18, 19. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver - Original Message - From: Jeannie Devon To: Meteorite List Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Denver Much to my dismay, I will not be able to make it to Tucson this year. Hope all who are lucky enough to be there have a fantastic time! To keep my mind on happier things, we are planning a possible trip to the Denver show in September. Yes, I know this is a premature question, but does anyone have dates for the show? Thanks, Jeannie Devon
[meteorite-list] Stop Thief!, Stop
Stop! Thief! Stop! Notorious, internationally, known meteorite thief strikes again. After capers in Egypt and Brazil Ron Farrell of the Universe Collection and Bethany Science has embarked on a new bit of chicanery. He is selling unauthorized color copies of the handmade, hand colored Ensisheim woodcut print produced by Fred Olsen of Denver Colorado. I spent hundreds of hours over two years researching the original print on which this work is based. I visited Ensisheim, Alsace, France in August 1999 and began this project soon after. I searched for a good image of the original broadsheet to start with. I then modified the image, restored missing areas, altered the size to fit the handmade paper, translated and hand wrote the caption. I then transferred the image (mirror image) to a slab of hard maple and carefully carved it out. I then found a printer with a centuries old press who is versed in hand printing. Together we used hundreds of pounds of pressure to print each image, one by one, onto the French handmade paper. Then each print is painted by a professional artist who uses handmade (as were available in 1492) mineral pigment paints that I make from pure mineral crystals. The image of the Ensisheim meteorite is painted with pigments I make from ground meteorite. Ron the Con Farrell got my print from Louis Carion in Tucson in 2001, and started selling his rip-off color copies of my print in 2002. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: Awesome meteorites at the Field Museum
Bob, I don't know about now but I found their Park Forest at the south end of the main hall. My wife were there for Memorial day and had a similar problem finding their Park Forest. They had 3 stones in a stand alone case on the second floor opposite the main entrance. I too found that none of the workers knew where they were. Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Silicates in Taza
List, I want to bring you up to date on the suspected silicated Taza. I spent a couple of hours cleaning that little beauty and found that the little pits and pockets did contain silicates. Quartz in the form of desert sand was the silicate and was very well cemented and hard to identify until I cleaned the specimen. The bullet like oriented nosecone Shows both triangular expressions of the internal crystal structure and the radiating flow lines formed on its passage through the atmosphere. While I thought there was a possibility that this Taza might contain olivine I am sort of relieved that there are still no known tazas that contain silicate inclusions. I am also glad some one asked the question and got me to clean my Taza after 8 months in a box. Regards. Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: Fred Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Silicates in Taza List, While I was in Tucson this year I was looking through a box of nice Taza specimens in Bruno's room when I noticed one that seemed a little less dense than the others and looked like it might have some silicate inclusions. It is a nice little oriented columnar individual with radiating flow lines on the small end. It is covered with crust, rust, and caliche and I had forgotten about it until the comment on the list. I will try to find it and give you a report after closer examination. Regards, Fred __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver show info?
Jamie, Welcome to denver! I will be around all week selling boxes and some Thuathe meteorites and thin sections. I have at least 40 different ones. I will have a truck and small tent in the Holiday Inn parking lot or the box shop 1441 W 46th Ave unit 7, Where the meteorite auction will be on Friday night. Hope to see you soon, Regards, Fred Olsen 303 433 0870 - Original Message - From: Jamie Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Denver show info? List Members, For the first time, I'm gonna make it to the Denver show. I haven't been able to find much info about who's where and what's going on. I'd appreciate any info. Hopefully I can leave some money with list members in Denver and bring home some thin sections. Where should I go? Thanks in advance for advice. --Jamie Stephens IMCA 2828 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] canyon city california
Steve, The Vienna Museum has some Canyon City California on display that is mislabeled as Canon City Colorado. Maybe they will sell it or trade it for some Cat Mountain? Regards, Fred - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] canyon city california Hi list.It has been awhile since I have heard from anyone on this subject.But does anyone have any or know of where I ca get some CANYON CITY, california iron meteorite?8.6 kilos TKW. STEVE = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites
Several people have asked for photos of the boxes which I hope to have tomorrow. It is a work in progress. Thanks for your interest. Regards, Fred - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites Hi Fred, While I wish you the best of luck with your new business, I, felt deprived of any photos of the boxes you offer. What is the point of a web site without such photos? However, another list member wrote about this and I thought you would post some photos for us - here are a bunch of potential buyers for your product. Did I miss your response to that inquiry? RSVP Thanks, Michael PS: Your site comes through for me (using a Mac with Internet Explorer software). on 7/17/03 9:57 PM, Fred Olsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several list members have told me that the link to our website does not work for them. I just looked at it and it works for me. Can any one tell me why it works for some and not others? Thanks, http://www.rockboxes.com/ - Original Message - From: Fred Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites Listees, I want to alert members of the list to a new source of boxes. These are Flat boxes (fancy beer flats) , cotton filled setup boxes, and foldup paperboard boxes.I like these boxes for storing and transporting my meteorites. I use a sheet VCI in the flats to prevent oxidation. I like these boxes so much I bought the company. If you are interested or want more info look at: www.rockboxes.com Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list I stand by all the misstatements that I've made. ...George W. Bush to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93 -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites
Several list members have told me that the link to our website does not work for them. I just looked at it and it works for me. Can any one tell me why it works for some and not others? Thanks, http://www.rockboxes.com/ - Original Message - From: Fred Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites Listees, I want to alert members of the list to a new source of boxes. These are Flat boxes (fancy beer flats) , cotton filled setup boxes, and foldup paperboard boxes.I like these boxes for storing and transporting my meteorites. I use a sheet VCI in the flats to prevent oxidation. I like these boxes so much I bought the company. If you are interested or want more info look at: www.rockboxes.com Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rockboxes for Meteorites
Listees, I want to alert members of the list to a new source of boxes. These are Flat boxes (fancy beer flats) , cotton filled setup boxes, and foldup paperboard boxes.I like these boxes for storing and transporting my meteorites. I use a sheet VCI in the flats to prevent oxidation. I like these boxes so much I bought the company. If you are interested or want more info look at: www.rockboxes.com Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim-Off the Wall meteorite
List, I think Ensisheim would have to qualify as the greatest On the Wall / Off the wall meteorite. It spent 300 years, from when it fell in 1492 until the French revolution, pinned to the Ensisheim church wall. Now it has been Off the Wall for over 200 years! What a great meteorite! Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] VCI's
Stephen, Anne Black, Bill Mason, and I all sell various types of VCIs. Anne and I have ziplock VCI plastic bags, emitters suitable for 5 cubic feet, and Kraft paper treated with emitters. Bill has emitters and liquids containing VCIs. They have been tested on a variety of materials and I know of no ill affects on any other materials. They do not seem to affect optical qualities of precision lenses. Regards, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: Stephen McMann To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] VCI's Hello List, I have a few questions aboutvolatile corrosion inhibitors (VCIs). As a relative newcomer to meteorite collecting I apologize for any niavete.Those people who are tired of rust threads should probably skip this messege now. However, if anybody who has used VCIs wants to field these questions, I would be grateful. I've gathered a few bits and pieces about VCI from the archives and recent discussions about rusting irons. However, I'm not sure that I have a clear picture about when they are good to use. Firstly,Has anyone experienced unwanted reactionswith any of the following materials A. The various minerals that are abundant in meteorites that are not irons B. plastics such as those found in display/storage containers C. Other coatings (In my case I have wiped a bunch of Sikhotes with a silicone gun cloth) D. dessicants E. human health Secondly, can they be used in very small containers such as plastic cubes that are as small as about 10X10X10 cm? Finally, does anybody haverecommendations about specific product names and suppliers? Thank you for your time Stephen McMann MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites on Mars?
List: With all the Probes heading for Mars I have been pondering a bit on how meteorites on mars might differ from those on earth? How would an asteroid fragment react with the atmosphere of Mars with its different composition and density? Does the Martian atmosphere have enough density to stop an incoming fragment? Would the smaller mass and less gravitational attraction have any affect? Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thuathe
For those who are interested in our nice selection of Thuathe meteorites, check with Chauncey Walden at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . My new website: webmeteorites.com will be up and running soon. I will be out of the country for the next two weeks and hopefully will have more interesting materials when I get back. I won't have email so don't try to contact me until after the 7th of April. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thuathe
Steve, We B Meteorites to your service. Other than poor grammer and bad spelling we want to be known for fine meteorites. I am starting a new web site (under construction) to sell meteorites. Unfortunately it is taking longer than I had planned. Chauncey Walden is helping with this project and has a fine lot of 65 pieces of Thuathe ready to go. There are whole individuals, crusted fragments, and slices. There about 10 in the 17-23 gram range. Overall they range from 4 grams to 493.4g many with documentation with date, place, and name of finder. Until the website is ready get your requests into Chauncey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or me Fred Olsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Fred - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] theuthe Who has a 20 to 25 gram individual of theuthe meteorite for sale? = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My Favorite Chondrite
I would have to concur with Larry on Isla del Espiritu Santo since my wife and I were there when he found the second stone. My second pick would be Ensisheim , such an interesting history. Third would be Canon City because it is a witnessed Colorado fall on my birthday. and Forth I would have to pick Thuathe because it is so recent and interesting. Pick no.5 would be La Criolla because I visited there and was able to get a nice fully crusted 100 gram stone from the finder who lived in the house that was struck by one of the stones. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] My Favorite Chondrite I'm prejudiced. My favorite chondrite is Isla del Espíritu Santo because it was my first meteorite find. Only an L6, but beautiful fresh fusion crust and regmaglypts. How could I not love it? Larry Johnson __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 757
Does anyone have some of NWA 757 for sale? If so please contact me off list. Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery Meteorite Contest II
1. Brecciated Aubrite 2. Shocked brecciated Diogenite 3. Howardite You are right, they are some tough rocks! Thanks, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mystery Meteorite Contest II Dear List Members, It is our pleasures to announce mystery meteorite contest number two. The rules will be a little different this time. New rules: Only one entry per member. Last time we personally responded to over 240 entries and encouraged members to guess as many times as possible. The problem with the old way is we felt guilty that some people were staying up all night trying to guess. Some had to go to work the next day without sleep. The object of these contests is to provide fun and knowledge. There is always going to be a lesson learned. Last time it was researching the Antarctic collection. Please post under this string to the list. This way there will be no question about who gave the correct answers first. Nobody guessed properly last time so this was not an issue. Just like last time if nobody gets all the answers correct we will decide some fair way to award the prizes. In this case there will be three specimens awarded, the three pictured below. We hope this contest will be educational enough to warrant the use of bandwidth on the List. Unlike the last contest this will be a test of your visual skills. We will provide a few things we observed about each specimen that were impossible to capture in the images. You must guess all three correct so take your time. Specimen number 1: This meteorite has a brown crust, is only very slightly magnetic to a most powerful magnet, has white clasts in a gray matrix and there is no sign of a basaltic texture or clast. http://www.lunarrock.com/contest/dsc1.jpg Specimen number 2: This meteorite has a translucent black crust, has no metal, every square centimeter is filled with shock veins and the matrix is off-white with a greenish hue. http://www.lunarrock.com/contest/dsc2.jpg Specimen number 3: This meteorite has a translucent greenish-black crust, is only very slightly magnetic to a most powerful magnet and has white and black clasts situated in a light gray matrix. http://www.lunarrock.com/contest/dsc3.jpg This contest will officially end on February 1, 2003 at 10:00 am PST. Since we will be in Tucson without access to a computer we will have somebody else announce the classifications for us. That way nobody will go insane trying to figure out what these items are. We will announce a winner on February 15, 2003. The mystery main masses will be displayed in Tucson in room 130 at the BestWestern Executive Inn in case anybody cares to find out at the show rather than waiting for a post to the List. Wishing List members whom decides to accept this challenge, good luck! All the Best, Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteor Spotted In Southern Colorado Sky
No, I don't think so! You just need to have more to catch up, and we need to find some of the ones that have been seen. Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver Colorado - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteor Spotted In Southern Colorado Sky Is it just me, or does it appear that Colorado is getting more than its fair share of bright meteors/fireballs over the past 18 months? Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Calendar O' Meteorites
Tracy, I am lucky, There are two falls, Bilanga and Canon City Colorado, on my birthday, October 27th . I am fortunate to have some of both. I would like to get a larger piece of Canon City Colorado (H6), if anyone has some for sale, let me know. There are also two falls on my wife's birthday Feb 29 (one from Italy and one from South Dakota) but haven't been able to get any of either one. If anyone has any for sale please let me Know. - Original Message - From: Tracy Latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Calendar O' Meteorites Just got my WONDERFUL 2003 meteorite calendar from Roman. A lovely, professional, USEFUL work, and I will be buying one every year that they are available. Thanks for a very nice job. I was flipping through said calendar (do I look at it now, or do I wait to be surprised? Decisions, decisions...) and was saddened to notice that on my birthday, September 12, there are no falls or finds. I hope that gets corrected soon! Anyway, just for a conversation starter, who DOES have a fall on their birthday? and which one? Jealously, Tracy Latimer --There are no words, Mike, just sympathy-- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is that all there is, my friends?
Dave, funny you should mention the dog, you must be prescient. In my next post I was going to mention what is a most impressive case in the Vienna Museum. In the center of the meteorite room in an old case is a group of very nice specimens. There is a nice size half crusted piece of Shergotty. Just next to it is one piece, and one whole fully crusted shiny black Nakhla meteorites. Now I have to admit that I broke my glasses early on the trip but I could still see pretty well and I thought I saw a little bit of reddish brown hair on the whole stone. Boy I thought, they should keep their displays a little more tidy. Right below the Shergotty was a very nice part crusted piece of Chassigny. Beautiful! Regards, Fred - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is that all there is, my friends? Dear Fred, Kevin, and Meteorite enthusiasts (including dog lover's in general); I find as collectors and traders, and meteorites evolve with knowledge; that things change. Previous errors may be uncovered, classifications may not have been thorough, and any number of other considerations may pop up, including new investigations of old newspaper articles, checking neighboring villagers for conflicting stories, or the lack of physical evidence including rover-graves. signed Arf-Arf, Dave (the dog died indeed) Freeman Fred Olsen wrote: Vienna may have more Canyon City, California although none is listed in the catalogue, so that could add a minor 8.7 grams. Total Known weight listed in Catalogue is 8,600 grams and weight of specimens in museum collections is 7,738 grams. That leaves 862 grams wandering the earth. Vienna may have some Canon City, Colorado although the only amount ( 8.7 grams) listed in the Catalogue matches the obviously erroneous label on the iron (not H6) specimen on display. I will leave it them to sort it out. Regards, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Is that all there is, my friends? Fred, Bernd and fellow m-listers: It's always great to read other's adventures-tinged-in-meteorites and any adventure lubricated with cheap, but quality beer, is even better. Good report, Fred. Fred mentions finding some interesting going-ons at the Vienna Museum, particularly regarding a possible TKW (total known weight) of Canyon City IIIAB Iron. Without knowing what Fred saw or what the label for the specimen indicated or if he even questioned Gero himself, what's on public display may or may not be the museum's entire holdings of a specimen. There could be a lot more in the back rooms of the Museum in boxes, sealed w/dissicate envelopes, or just sitting around on tables like a bunch of card-playing dogs. So let's keep dancin', Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is that all there is, my friends?
Vienna may have more Canyon City, California although none is listed in the catalogue, so that could add a minor 8.7 grams. Total Known weight listed in Catalogue is 8,600 grams and weight of specimens in museum collections is 7,738 grams. That leaves 862 grams wandering the earth. Vienna may have some Canon City, Colorado although the only amount ( 8.7 grams) listed in the Catalogue matches the obviously erroneous label on the iron (not H6) specimen on display. I will leave it them to sort it out. Regards, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Is that all there is, my friends? Fred, Bernd and fellow m-listers: It's always great to read other's adventures-tinged-in-meteorites and any adventure lubricated with cheap, but quality beer, is even better. Good report, Fred. Fred mentions finding some interesting going-ons at the Vienna Museum, particularly regarding a possible TKW (total known weight) of Canyon City IIIAB Iron. Without knowing what Fred saw or what the label for the specimen indicated or if he even questioned Gero himself, what's on public display may or may not be the museum's entire holdings of a specimen. There could be a lot more in the back rooms of the Museum in boxes, sealed w/dissicate envelopes, or just sitting around on tables like a bunch of card-playing dogs. So let's keep dancin', Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What IS this stuff???another puzzler
Anorthosite from California. Regards, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: Jensan Scientifics/ Sci-Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What IS this stuff???another puzzler Hello again listees! What IS this stuff??? A rock type that was eagerly sought on the Moon by the Apollo astronauts, it appears as a central character in any discussion of how the Moon formed. Many meteorite collectors can now walk over to their shelves and see little bits of this rock type on display there. Can anyone get the answer BEFORE looking at the answer link given on the page below??? Look here: http://www.sciencemall-usa.com/mystermineral.html .. BTW. The answer to last week's mineral puzzler... terrestrial, or native iron. Cheers, Dave and Sarah . . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites that fell into the water
List, I just got back to town after a couple of days so I may have missed the answer, but the fossil meteorites Lake Murray and the other Scandinavian ones fell in the ocean. - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Serguei Vassiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites that fell into the water Serguei One hit a Japanese ship and was promptly swept off of the ship. Other parts probably hit the sea.Dirk Ross Tokyo Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Hello Serguei and List, The most famous meteorite that fell into a pond or a stock tank is, of course, Pena Blanca Spring. See detailed description in Joel Schiff's METEORITE magazine: Meteorite! (May 2000, Vol. 6, No. 2, pp. 36-38). Some of the Siena stones have also been reported to have fallen into a pond: Two astonished English ladies saw stones fall into a pond and splash out water that appeared to boil. The government had the pond drained and actually recovered some Siena stones [MARVIN U.B. (1996) E.F. Chladni (1756-1827) and the origins of modern meteorite research (Meteoritics 31-5, 1996, 558-561)]. Several Chinga specimens were found in the Chinga River basin. And there is the Djati-Pengilon H6 chondrite which fell into the Alastoeva river. Another celebrity is the Grosnaja CV3 chondrite. A shower of stones fell, after detonations, but only 1 of about 3.5 kg was recovered as the rest fell into the river Terek. Monte Milone, L5, brecciated: After detonations, many stones fell (some in the river Potenza) 8 miles from Macerata, Italy. Seymchan, a IIE iron of 272.3 kg was found in the bed of a stream flowing into the river Hekandue, a tributary of the Jasachnaja. Shirahagi, IVA, mass of 22.7 kg was found in the bed of the Kamiichi- kawa river. Saotome, which is structurally similar, was found in the same river 2 years later. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What IS this stuff???another puzzler
Has to be iron. Regards, Fred - Original Message - From: Jensan Scientifics/ Sci-Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What IS this stuff???another puzzler Hello again listees! What IS this stuff??? One of the most common elements IN Earth, yet nearly impossible to find in any deposit ON Earth. More likely to fall on your head (woof, Kevin, woof!). Can anyone get the answer BEFORE looking at the answer link given on the quiz page??? Look here: http://www.sciencemall-usa.com/mystermineral.html .. BTW. The answer to last week's mineral puzzler... green, bubbly, glassy, radioactive TRINITITE! Congrats to Matt Morgan for being first with the right answer, and to Anne Black for being only moments behind Matt. You Colorado guys $ gals are quick on the draw! Cheers, Dave and Sarah . . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Classification of Chondrites
Hello List, I have just been pondering the meaning of chondrules on this beautiful spring day. What are the criteria for determining the amount of change to chondrules and determining their ranking from 2 through 7? Is it totally subjective? Do these rankings ever get changed? What is more important; the chondrule / matrix boundary, or the total number of chondrules per square inch? When you look at a picture of L5 Cole Creek in CEM you could say that it looks cleaner and less altered than a Gold basin or some other L4. Regards, Fred __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norton 2002 EoM
Four days, eighteen hours and I got mine! That is how long it took to get O.R.N.'s Encyclopedia of Meteorites from Amazon.com. When I got up this morning the cardboard wrapper was still on the floor by the door where it fell as I opened the package yesterday afternoon. I was up until after two this morning looking at thin sections and reading The Book. Thank You Richard! It was worth the wait and now back to reading. Regards, Fred Olsen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana
Hello, All I was just looking at my sample of iron from Disco Island. It weighs about 350 gr. and is about the size of a handball. I ground a corner off to have a better look at its structure and found it looks more like a silicated iron meteorite with a continuous field of iron surrounding small blebs of gray silicates. I would guess 90% iron and 10% silicates. My slice of Putorana is about 50/50 iron /silicates. I do recall seeing a sample of iron in basalt from Germany that looked a lot like Putorana. Regards, Fred Olsen - Original Message - From: Treiman, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana Hi, all - With Matt Morgan's help, we've just finished a paper on the Putorana rock, and it should be published in July (?) with the Meteoritical Society meeting abstracts. The paper is bigger and more formal than the article(s) in Meteorite . If you'd like a preprint, send me your email or postal address! Personally, I'm not real keen on the Putorana iron coming from the Earth's core. It seems like an awfully long way for heavy stuff like iron metal to rise (or be carried up). The Diskoisland metal supposedly formed when molten basalt hit coal seams. The reaction was like smelting - iron oxide in the basalt magma reacted with the coal, and produced iron metal. That doesn't seem to work for the Putorana stuff, as the basalt is too rich in iron -- if iron had been smelted out of it, the basalt would be poor in iron. My current guess is that the iron metal came from iron sulfide liquid. There's a lot of iron sulfide ore in the Putorana/Noril'sk area, so having sulfide is not a problem. Perhaps the sulfide could get roasted naturally, and drive the sulfur off into the air. The iron would be left behind as metal. Just an idea. Perhaps our Russian friends know more about Putorana?? Cheers! Allan Allan H. Treiman Lunar and Planetary Institute 3600 Bay Area Boulevard Houston TX 77058-1113 281-486-2117 281-486-2162 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:17 AM To: metlist Subject: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana Hi there, I have just read Mr. Norton's article in this quarter's Meteorite magazine on Putorana where he speculated that the iron in the basalt was derived from mantle plumes conducting iron from the core to the magma chambers in the lithosphere - I was just wondering how actually plausible that mechanism actually was. I thought that a more likely scenario for the creation of Putorana iron may have been the effect of a magmatic plume coming into contact with a highly carbonaceous sedimentary deposit and the iron compounds are then reduced to native iron (much in the same way that commercial iron is produced by reacting with coke). I accept that the sedimentary deposits would have to be subducted to quite some depths before the appropriate temperature and pressures arose, but it still seems more likely a scenario to me than a outer liquid core streamer of iron travelling a couple of thousand kilometres upwards, against gravity and still keeping the iron in a liquid enough state to mix with magma. Any ideas? I wonder if there is any overriding chemical evidence that the iron is sourced from the core rather than liberated as part of a reduction of mantle silicates and oxides (possibly the presence of Ni in the iron is the evidence that supports the core theory - I dunno!) Don't laugh at me if I have written a load of rubbish here! I need to learn and only by thinking about this stuff and making gaffs will I learn anything - some of you people out there know more about Geology than I will EVER learn, so I bow to your undeniably profound knowledge!!! Ideas/opinions please! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox
E=Mc2 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Paradox Hi List Members, Correct me if I'm wrong. The Astronomy community theorize that the universe was created in a millisecond, a flash, the big-bang. From nothing to everything, instantaneously. We all accept the theory that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So how can this be? Inquiring minds would like to know. Thanks, Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
