Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement...New Website is now up! Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
Very inviting site Don. Well done On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Don Merchant wrote: Hi List. I apologize that I have been away off the list for a long time. The reason is I decided to fulfill a long awaited dream of mine and create a website dedicated to meteorites and astronomy. I spent about a year and almost 2000 hours researching to put this together and ended up to be much longer then I anticipated. For those who know me I wanted to do it right and do not like to cut corners. This site is dedicated on my daughters birthday today, but is for all of you collectors out there and especially for those new to the field. There is no site like it in the world in my opinion. My eBay Info page will help many newbie's to the hobby and many of you will agree after viewing it, that it was about time something so detailed came along, which will help many new and veteran collectors. Though I have not listed any meteorites as of yet (shooting for first of the year) on my meteorite sales page, my format will be different then most of the dealers and sellers who alread y sell on their sites. I will not have the variety like they do. My plan is to only put up several type each couple of months. Those meteorites will be the rarest of the rare and hardest to acquire and or most historical. I posted about 5 months ago on my intentions of this website which is called Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders and wanted to thank those that contacted me with what I needed. I hope you will take the time to look over my site as it is very educational and the resources and tools will hopefully put me in your favorites! I designed this site for the new astronomer and new meteorite collector by using the many years I have involved with astronomy and meteorites and from the lessons I have learned. I hope my experience will suffice to all of you out there. Please feel free to pass my site along to those who you feel will gain from it. Hope you enjoy it and glad to finally have time to get back to the real world! My site address is below. Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonderswww.ctreasurescwonders.com Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet?
With his faithful Indian companion Tonto The Daring and resourceful, Masked Rider of the plains, Led the fight for Law and Order In the early Western United States. No where in the pages of History Can one find a greater Champion of Justice. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past, come the thundering hoof beats of the Great horse Silver The Lone Ranger Rides Again! Hi Ho Silver--Away... Get um up Scout Echos of a misspent youth Jerry Flaherty On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote: you are forgetting the first commercial radio stations. WJR which was WCX began broadcasting in 1922 . Thats about 88 light years of radio signals from Detroit. I wonder what they would think of us hearing music and shows like the lone ranger and flash gordon . If there is anyone out there. Cheers Steve On Wed Oct 6th, 2010 6:11 PM EDT Sterling K. Webb wrote: We have already sent them I Love Lucy, just by broadcasting it from October 15, 1951 to May 6, 1957. In the Fifties, the radio brightness of the Earth was about 700 times greater than our Sun's radio brightness. A bright radio source in orbit about a G-class star is like firing up a beacon for everyone within 50 lightyears, one that screams Yoo-Hoo! There are about 2000 stars (in 1400 star systems) within 50 lightyears of us, all of whom have gotten all the episodes of I Love Lucy by now. About 133 of these stars are similar to our Sun. Here's a map of our Neighborhood: http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/50lys.html and Gliese 581 isn't bright enough to make the cut; it's not on the map. Nobody cares about red dwarves... There are 33 stars with 12.5 lightyears of us. http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/12lys.html Most of those stars could have sent us a message after they watched the first episode of Gunsmoke and we would have had the message before the show went off the air. An alien civilization fascinated by Soul Train (and who isn't?) could have watched the first few years of the show and sent us a message we'd have by now out to 20-22 lightyears. Maybe we won't hear from them until they find out their favorite show was cancelled? Or maybe they're satisfied to just watch the re-runs of Star Trek? Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet? Ok then - how about a Radio Transmission. I would assume we are doing this. What would we send? How about all the re-runs of I Love Lucy? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections
Darryl and List, I most emphatically agree with your praise of Norbert. From a personal point of view, Norbert's dedication to and performance in his position sets a standard that exceeds the norm. [no pun intended] Thank you Norbert. Jerry Flaherty On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: Hi, With apologies for not having paid attention I was really disappointed to just learn of Norbert moving on. Norbert has indeed provided dedicated service to our community. Armed with an ethical compass, intelligence and sensitivity, I am so grateful, Norbert, for your ceaseless efforts on our behalf throughout your tenure. Most sincerely, Darryl NOTE: There is so much agenda-based, sucking-up on this list when it comes to meting out praise, I would like to be transparent: I have sold Norbert perhaps three meteorites over the years. Begin forwarded message: From: Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com Date: September 29, 2010 1:32:18 AM EDT To: linton...@earthlink.net Cc: IMCA Mailing List i...@imcamail.de Subject: RE: [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections Hello Linton and All, Great question, Linton, and a fine opportunity to explain how the voting works. Three current directors have terms ending this year but only two are re-running. It is has been my pleasure to have worked under the capable leadership of Norbert Classen, who is leaving the board this year after many years of dedicated service to the meteorite community. I will announce the official end of the campaign on Friday, October 1, and the official start of voting Saturday, October 2nd. We will all be sending our votes to a special email address set up specifically for voting and I will let you know what that address is when voting starts. It is very important that we vote for three and only three candidates from the list below: Anne Black, Colorado, USA John Cabassi, California, USA Greg Catterton, North Carolina, USA Robert Falls, Colorado, USA Jeff Kuyken, Australia Howard McLean, Indiana, USA Pete Shugar, Texas, USA There are a few things we need from you to verify you and your vote. You must sign your vote with your full name and membership number and your vote must be sent from the email address we have on file for you. The email with which you receive IMCA mailing list mail is the address we have. Your votes have been sent properly when you receive a return email that reads: Your vote has been received. Thank you for your participation in the 2010 IMCA Board Elections. Best regards, IMCA Nominations Elections Committee Please don't hesitate to ask questions. Best wishes, Maria Haas Treasurer I.M.C.A., Inc. www.IMCA.cc Member #5520 From: linton...@earthlink.net To: dragons...@msn.com CC: i...@imcamail.de Subject: Re: [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:37:40 -0700 Hi Maria. I'm catching up on all the recent election discussion, having just returned from a couple weeks on the road (including the Denver show). From Three of our directors have terms ending this year ..., I gather we are voting for THREE board members? Just wanted to clarify this, as I'm not 100% sure. I think we have a fine group of candidates and I'm wishing I could vote for more than three. ;^) Linton Rohr - #7571 - Original Message - From: Maria Haas To: IMCA Mailing List Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections Candidates for the 2010 Elections September comes around pretty quickly every year and in the IMCA that means we have prepared for the yearly elections. Three of our directors have terms ending this year and two have decided to re-run for a position. The three whose terms are ending are Norbert Classen, Anne Black, and Jeff Kuyken. This year we say goodbye to our reigning president, Norbert Classen, who is retiring, and Anne Black and Jeff Kuyken have decided to re-run for board positions. It is my pleasure to announce our 2010 Candidates for the Board of Directors. Anne Black, Colorado, USA John Cabassi, California, USA Greg Catterton, North Carolina, USA Robert Falls, Colorado, USA Jeff Kuyken, Australia Howard McLean, Indiana, USA Pete Shugar, Texas, USA The Campaign will start September 17, 2010 at 12:00 midnight, Eastern Time. That mean's it started a few minutes ago! Each candidate will do their best to tell the membership through the IMCA mailing list only, what they have to offer the membership should they win a position on the Board of Directors. Questions directed to the candidates are welcome. The Campaign will end October 1, 2010 at 12:00 midnight, Eastern Time. Voting will start October 2, 2010 at 12:00 midnight, Eastern Time. We’ll send out another email with details about voting, including a special address to which you can send your vote, on October
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Listening To Fermi
I think therefore they are [?] On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Mark Ford wrote: Point is we can INFER there is a PROBABLILITY of OTHER life, but we cannot say there is. There is a big difference. many people 'believe' in all sorts of things, this doesn't make it true. That said, however much we think science is black and white, science is only really a glorified democracy, evidence only is evidence if enough people 'believe' it. But it's all we've got, and it sort of works, as soon as we say there's got to be aliens out there 'because we are here', then all logic breaks down and we will be in a right mess. We haven't seen aliens, we cannot infer their presence from ANY observation - therefore at present we are alone in the universe. Remember 'Statistically' we shouldn't be here at all! So scientifically speaking Statistics is disproven as a method! Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Meteorites USA Sent: 17 September 2010 05:56 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Listening To Fermi Hi Phil, I agree completely with your sentiment, and respect your belief. However I sincerely disagree that your conclusion that intelligent extra terrestrial life does NOT exist is based on evidenced fact. There is only a lack of evidence, and the best argument to the contrary is us. Humans are the biggest single evidence in this universe that the development of intelligent life forms is possible. (though the intelligent part is arguable) I know you believe we're the only intelligent lifeform, and I know you think it's based on evidence, but it's actually lack of evidence to the contrary that you are basing your belief on. You're merely repeating Fermi's Where are they? question. Saying show me... I've already given an analogy that very simply shows Fermi's Paradox is not a paradox at all because we haven't the information to quantify the question to begin with. Lack of evidence is not evidence. You'll be surprised to know, I don't believe in extraterrestrials. However I can conclude they most probably exist because we are here, and the chances of them not being there (wherever there is) are so minute it's statistically impossible considering the vastness and the age of the universe. We could also phrase this as when they were. Or how we will be in 1000 years, or 10,000 years. At the rate of technological advancement (if we don't destroy ourselves first) where will we be in 1000 years? That is curiously and seriously what I would like to know! Even so, one can still safely use statistics and numbers to figure the probability. No, I'm not hanging my alien hat on the Drake equation. I wouldn't know how to read it any more than I could read War Peace in one sitting. I'm saying One must take into account ALL the variables possible to form a conclusion. Still, probability won't make it so. We may never know, or we might find ET tomorrow. I'll agree with Richard in that I believe that the universe is teaming with life. Intelligent life however is probably extremely rare. But even that, like time itself is probably relative. Regards, Eric On 9/16/2010 9:19 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: Hi Richard; That's an excellent argument for cancelling the silly SETI project. The key word in your argument is believe. You believe in the existence of exo-life without any supporting evidence, I don't. So we can agree to disagree. If life never existed on Mars, I can't see it existing anywhere else. But, my beliefs are evidence based, I'll change them in a minute if someone will just show me the money. --- Phil Whitmer - Actually Phil, I'd disagree with that statement, even though I believe that the universe is filled to the brim with life, I think that intelligent life is exceedingly rare. Personally I think that SETI is never going to find a signal, not because there is no life out there, but that the circumstances required to find a signal is exceedingly small. The analogy put forth by others in this thread of a child looking out a window for 32/1000ths of a second is a good one. Use ourselves as an example. Radio technology on earth is barely a century old and we are already rapidly moving away from high powered transmitters to low powered devices for communications. Our most efficient long distance communications are already moving via fiber optics, so require no radio transmissions whatsoever. Ask yourself what are/or were the most powerful transmitters used? The answer is Early Warning defense radar systems. In fact at those frequencies Earth was brighter than the Sun. As the Cold War wound down, and the
Re: [meteorite-list] Debate Over Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis Continues
DEBATE IS GOOD. Ridicule less so. Thanks Paul. As always your post are a welcome source of pertinent information On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Paul H. wrote: On the side of people disputing the Younger Dryas Impact hypothesis there is: Kerr, R. A., 2010, Mammoth-Killer Impact Rejected. Science Now, August 30, 2010 http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/08/mammoth-killer-impact-rejected.html Dalton, R., 2010, Comet theory carbonized: Sediment studies rule out impact as cause of ancient cold spell. Nature News. August 31, 2010. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100831/full/news.2010.441.html Impact hypothesis loses its sparkle, Physorg. August 30, 2010, http://www.physorg.com/news202382634.html http://www.physorg.com/news195979458.html Kerr, R. A, 2010, Mammoth-Killer Impact Flunks Out. Science, vol. 329, no. 5996, pp. 1140 - 1141 DOI: 10.1126/science.329.5996.1140 http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/329/5996/1140 The paper is: Daulton, T. L., N. Pinter, and A. C. Scott, 2010, No evidence of nanodiamonds in Younger–Dryas sediments to support an impact event. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the United States. Published online before print August 30, 2010, doi: 10.1073/pnas.1003904107 http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/08/26/1003904107.abstract?sid=f62eef7c-9d13-48e9-a003-ddd93d93d75b On the other hand, the BBC Article stated: “Allen West said further nanodiamond evidence in support of the impact theory would be published in the coming weeks.” One of these papers is: Kurbatov, A. V., P. A. Mayewski, J. P. Steffensen, A. West, D. J. Kennett, J. P. Kennett, T. E. Bunch, M. Handley, D. S. Introne, S. S. Que Hee, C. Mercer, M. Sellers, F. Shen, S. B. Sneed, J. C. Weaver, J. H. Wittke, T. W. Stafford, J. J. Donovan, S. Xie, J. J. Razink Jr., A. Stich, C. R. Kinzie, W. S. Wolbach, Discovery of a nanodiamond-rich layer in the Greenland ice sheet. Journal of Glaciology, v. 56, n 199, 749-759. PDF file at : http://cci.siteturbine.com/facultystorm/profile/research/publication.php?publicationId=7406 http://www.climatechange.umaine.edu/people/profile/andrei_kurbatov Thus, the debate continues. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nanodiamonds Discovered in Greenland Ice Sheet, Contribute to Evidence for Cosmic Impact
Ironic, Alfred Weegner died on Greenland in an effort to fortify his theory of The Origin Of the Continents. He too was ridiculed by the then established Scientific Community. Glad no one had to die this time. Jerry On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:46 AM, MEM wrote: I'm not sure if this made the list sorry if it is old news. Elton Nanodiamonds Discovered in Greenland Ice Sheet, Contribute to Evidence for Cosmic Impact ScienceDaily (Sep. 15, 2010) — Nanosize diamonds have been discovered in the Greenland ice sheet, according to a study reported by scientists in a recent online publication of the Journal of Glaciology. The finding adds credence to the controversial hypothesis that fragments of a comet struck across North America and Europe approximately 12,900 years ago. There is a layer in the ice with a great abundance of diamonds, said co-author James Kennett, professor emeritus in the Department of Earth Science at UC Santa Barbara. Most exciting to us is that this is the first such discrete layer of diamonds ever found in glacial ice anywhere on Earth, including the huge polar ice sheets and the alpine glaciers. The diamonds are so tiny that they can only be observed with special, highly magnifying microscopes. They number in the trillions. This discovery supports earlier published evidence for a cosmic impact event about 12,900 years ago, Kennett explained. He said that the available evidence in the Greenland ice is consistent with this layer being at or close to this age, although further study is needed. Researchers from the University of Maine led the expedition to Greenland in 2008. Co-authors on the study, besides Kennett and the team from Maine, include scientists from many universities and research entities. James Kennett's son, Douglas J. Kennett, of the University of Oregon, is one of the 21 scientists who contributed to the report. Last year, the Kennetts reported the discovery of nanosize diamonds in a layer of sediment exposed on Santa Rosa Island, off the coast of Santa Barbara, Calif. They published this information with numerous co-authors in two papers last year in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and Science magazine. According to James Kennett, the Greenland results also contradict a recent study questioning the presence of nanodiamonds in a layer of this age. Kennett explained that the layer containing nanodiamonds on Santa Rosa Island, as well as those in the Greenland ice sheet -- both supporting a cosmic impact event -- appear to closely correspond to the time of the disappearance of the Clovis culture, the earliest well-established and well-accepted human culture living across North America. The event also corresponds with the time of extinction of many large animals across North America, including mammoths, camels, horses, and the saber tooth cat. There is also evidence of widespread wildfires at that time, said Kennett. An associated sharp climatic cooling called the Younger Dryas cooling is also recorded widely over the northern hemisphere. This includes evidence found in ocean-drilled sediments beneath the Santa Barbara Channel. The cause of this cooling has long been debated as well as the cause of the animal extinctions and human cultural shift. A high proportion of the nanosize diamonds in the Greenland ice sheet exhibit hexagonal mineral structure, and these are only known to occur on Earth in association with known cosmic impact events, said Kennett. This layer of diamonds corresponds with the sedimentary layer known as the Younger Dryas Boundary, dating to 12,900 years ago. James Kennett, former director of the Marine Science Institute at UCSB, is considered by many of his peers to be an early founder of marine geology and paleoceanography. He has specialized in analyzing sedimentary layers below the ocean floor. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OTHER HOBBIES?
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[meteorite-list] The ultimate professional
After dealing with Marcin Cimala, PolandMet, many times, I must commend his professionalism in all areas of Meteorite Dealership. Today I received my most recent purchase, promptly and packaged securely. As is always the case, the presentation is outstanding. A clear plastic case containing the piece, beautifully documented with all pertinent information, makes for a superior additional service. The piece is immediately ready for display. Thank you Marcin. Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere
Simple but true. Odds favor no witnesses! On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Martin Altmann wrote: Hi Because the people weren't there, when and where they felt, to witness them. General fall rates are a topic for its own, they range in the discussion from a few thousands up to 40,000 falls per year, where a nice stone is really dropped. And each year there are recovered from these thousands of falls always only zero to a dozen. And only the last 200 years meteorite falls were really noticed. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ Currently the database has 52000 valid provisional meteorite entries. Means - I don't know - 36566 form Antarctica, average pairing rate let's say 5, 7300 original falls. 1200 witnessed falls. 2000 or so non-desert finds. 12,000 or so desert finds, let's say pairing rate 3... So extremely roughly guessed we have stuff from 15,000 different meteorite falls. Let's look... Antarcica 7000+ different fall events - 19 lunaites and 15 Martians. Oman, where the data are better than with NWA (hopefully not too much pairings will be artificially created? Switzerland?) 2800 numbers 22 lunaites and 4 Martians Falls 1200 0 lunaites and 4 Martians Sooo... observed falls are unsuspicious, regarding the problem that a lunaite wouldn't be recognized in the field, cause it is too similar to terrestrial rocks. Partially Antarctica too as partially the rocks were collected on sheer ice. Therefrom we can speculate, that lunaites fall much more rarely than asteroidial meteorites (id est all the other stuff, without Martians). Hence they are rare per se. With finds, well there we see, that from among 100-350 meteorites found and published meteorites 1 is a lunar. (Perhaps the ratio is even larger...with the desert finds, ordinary chondrites often aren't classified at present). But doesn't matter, that here is totally unscientifical :-) So. 99% of all meteorites aren't lunars (finds, falls stats) 99.9% of all meteorite falls aren't observed. Meteorite falls we tend to witness and to report so far only in a tiny window of 200 years. 1200 witnessed falls we have. This dairymaid calculation - we say here for a naïve fallacy - makes it at least for me plausible, why we haven't any observed lunar fall yet and it doesn't exclude that an observed fall could have happened in past among the 1200 observed ones and it neither excludes that it will happen in future! So I think the reason isn't so much a physical one, but it's only: Chance. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Dunklee Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 16:49 An: almi...@localnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere Hi everyone. You did a good job of thrashing my response without giving an answere to the original question. Why are there no lunar witnessed falls? DR kortev did say there are twice as many Martian impacts,which to me is a lot or many more. Another person questioned if they would have enough velocity to be seen which is a verry good point because some would reach terminal velocity much sooner than an object from mars or the astroid belt. The amount of time recovered lunars take to reach earth has been said to be the same as mars meteorites. I am beginning to believe it may be a matter of recognition. A lunar would reach terminal velocity 20 or more miles up and fall without making a sound. And if it did make a sound the person finding it would do everyones is it a meteorite test. Brown or green crust? Doesnt stick to a magnet.vesicles on the crust. Must not be a meteorite. And what size does it take to launch a rock from the moon?small would do it. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 9, 2010
Sure does look battered On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_9_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on OC Choppers
Where's Toto fit in? On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Darren Garrison wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:48:07 -0400, you wrote: One bike, two meteorite men. Who gets to keep it? Do they get joint custody with alternating weekends? ;) Obvously, Arnold rides up front, Notkin rides behind. Hold on tight, Geoff! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question
WOW! How many grams, Yinan? Jerry On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Yinan Wang wrote: A couple of people asked for a better picture, so here it is; http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000aypd1 Thanks for help in advance! -Yinan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:04 PM, countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Wang, Very nice specimen. Wish it was in my cabinet. In your first message you had the descriptions of the inclusions correct. Best regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 19, 2010 8:58 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron meteorite inclusion question Here's a rough picture of the slice, any suggestions? http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000axxf0 -Yinan On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yinan, The dark inclusions could be graphite. Troilite often has a brassy coloration to it. Do you have a photo of the slice? Best regards, MikeG On 8/19/10, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, simple question: In an iron meteorite, when etched, what do the troilite and schreibersite inclusions look like? I have a slice of canyon diablo and I'm seeing dark round nodules (the troilite) and silvery dendritic material (schreibersite?). Which is which? Thanks, Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged button prices (Was: Spectacular Tektite on eBay)
You're most certainly correct Paul. I'm always a little behind in my work. [like the butcher who backed into the meat slicer!] On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi Stuart, You should find this very interesting :-) http://museumvictoria.com.au/discoverycentre/infosheets/australites/ Paul On 8/9/2010 3:44 PM, Stuart McDaniel wrote: I know this will sound like a stupid question but how are these formed? I thought teks were ejecta type material. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society - Original Message - From: Paul Harris p...@meteorite.com To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged button prices (Was: Spectacular Tektite on eBay) Dear Richard and List, Here are some Australite Flange Buttons on Meteorite-Times. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2009/march/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2007/June/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2007/May/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2006/December/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/February/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2004/October/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/September/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2003/April/Tektite_of_Month.htm http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/November/Tektite_of_Month.htm Just gotta love buttons! Paul On 8/9/2010 2:22 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote: Hey Norm, I haven't looked at many tektites, but what caught my eye on this one was the deep swirl on the bottom of this one. Obviously spinning as it re-entered. I can't remember seeing this feature before. Just curious how common that is? Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Mon, 8/9/10, Norm Lehrmannlehr...@nvbell.net wrote: From: Norm Lehrmannlehr...@nvbell.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged button prices (Was: Spectacular Tektite on eBay) To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 11:02 AM Sorry, I was typing in the dark and hit a button that sent the message before I was done. The one on Ebay is significantly over-priced. For $1800, I think I can still source a flawless specimen. With the rim chips, I would not pay $1000, but times are certainly changing. They haven't made any more of these for a very long time and the supply is getting very lean. I think I told the story on our website, but I traded my youngest daughter's hand in marriage for one fine flanged button. We were living in West Aus and spent lots of time out searching. On the fateful day, Derek (our great current son in law) came out with us, his first tektite hunt. Cookie and I had over 1000 finds each to our credit (australites that is, not a single fully flanged button) and had a pretty good eye. We know how to tell them from kangaroo droppings (bite them!). We were walking a dry stream channel southeast of Kalgoorlie and finding nothing. My daughter is American Indian, and I had been kidding Derek that if he wanted to marry her he was going to have to come up with a fine bunch of horses and blankets for the father of the bride. It was hot and dry and swarming with flies and kangaroo droppings were about as exciting as it got. Then Derek shouted hey norm, about those horses and sheep and stuff---would this do??? He was holding up a perfect, flawless flanged button. I accepted on the spot. He has my daughter and a fine family, I have a fine flanged Australite and some great grandkids. What's more, we're both happy with the deal. People sometimes ask what my daughter thinks of being sold for a flanged button, and I assure them that she understands their rarity and is honored to command such a premium! Three years has passed since we moved to Africa and suspended the Tektite Source. Cookie has now moved back to the USA and is getting the inventory unpacked; I'm still wandering Africa at least until the end of the calendar year. But within a few months we should have things up and running again. Thanks for waiting. We have a long list of clients to contact when she finds everything. If you have items of interest from the website, let us know and we'll get to you when we can--- I need to visit our own website, but unfortunately I think we are completely out of good flanged buttons (that are for sale--there's for sure on that isn't!) Cheers, Norm http://tektitesource.com --- On Mon, 8/9/10, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject:
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, 2010
Most definitely, a huge agreement here! Miss you Mike and as always Michael Rules! On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Robert Woolard wrote: Michael,etc. I'm just now able to catch up on the emails over the last few days. When I read this one, I wanted to echo your sentiments about Mike Farmer. I'm sure he himself would be one of the first to agree with your Sure he can have his moments... statement, as he is well, let's just say... VERY passionate about meteorites and his business. ;-) And although I don't always agree 100% with Mike, I definitely can say that once you do get to know him, he is one of the most unselfish guys you could hope to meet. I'll never forget how he insisted that I use his metal detector in Sweden for several DAYS, which left him completely unable to hunt for any meteorites, because he had already found some earlier, and he wanted me to have as much chance as possible to find my own. How many of us would be willing to just sit out on hunting for days? And when we were on another trip, he gathered up all our left over food and supplies and gave them to some poor localinhabitants before we left. So yeah, we all know that Mike can get a little excited at times, but... deep down, he is a great person. (And one heck of a meteorite hunter!) And Michael J., congrats on your new iron. I've missed your meteorite of the day updates lately. I hope we can look forward to a lot more. Best wishes, Robert Woolard --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote: From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, 2010 To: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:25 PM Thanks Joe, Michael Farmer is a great guy once you get to know him. Sure he can have his moments like we all do. I put together this website for Michael and Jim Strope a few months ago. http://www.pallasite-meteorites.com While I did it for fun and asked nothing in return Michael was kind enough to send the GK specimen. Even though Michael is no longer on the meteorite list he has always supported my RSPOD post. Photo by Rob Wesel added to the Gebel Kamil page: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/gebel-kamil.html Regards, Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org - Original Message - From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 2, 2010 1:41:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, 2010 Nice piece Michael, these kind of remind me of SA. Does anyone have an image of an etched slice of this new iron? I know its an ataxite, but some ataxites have really interesting etches, I'm curious to see this one etched. That was a great gesture by Farmer, He gets a bad rap sometimes, but is a pretty good guy and a really good meteorite hunter. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 10:09:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 2, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/gebel-kamil.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Digital Edition
ERIC, what a bargain. Thanks so much, awesome! Jerry On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: Hello Listees, Thanks everyone for all the very kind words. In appreciation I've created some thanks you gifts and promotions I'm sure many of you will enjoy. Free Previews Free Advertising http://www.mhcmagazine.com/promotions/ Enjoy... Thank you all! Eric From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Digital Edition To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 1:32 AM Hi Everyone, The Digital Edition (DE) of Meteorite Hunting Collecting Magazine is complete and ready to view! If you're already a subscriber to the DE, you can login with your password you've already received in your email. http://www.mhcmagazine.com/current-issue/ If you have not yet subscribed to the Digital Edition you can subscribe for only $9.99 per year for 6 Full Color Issues. http://www.mhcmagazine.com/digital-edition/ Current Print Edition subscribers will receive their magazines via snail mail in 1-2 weeks. If you don't want to wait, and want to see it now, subscribe to the digital edition today. http://www.mhcmagazine.com/digital-edition/ Thanks for your interest. Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorite Hunting Collecting Magazine http://www.mhcmagazine.com (sorry for the double post the main link broke) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Great pic of Gebel Kamil crater
Thank you , Bob On Jul 23, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Bob King wrote: Hi everyone, I came across this photo and article this morning. Really nice pic of the crater. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/07/100722-science-space-egypt-kamil-crater-meteor-meteorite-impact-hazard/ Bob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation (Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust)
What about, Sugar and Spice and everything Nice or, Snakes and snails and puppy dog tails?? On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Phil Whitmer wrote: A small point where science and creation myths are in agreement: For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Speaking of recycables, I was watching How The Earth Was Formed, the episode about gold, and they mentioned how gold has been recycled and traded around the globe for centuries. They said your wedding band may contain molecules of ancient Egyptian or Peruvian gold that has been melted down and traded. - Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation (Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust)
Not my brass ring? On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Phil Whitmer wrote: A small point where science and creation myths are in agreement: For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Speaking of recycables, I was watching How The Earth Was Formed, the episode about gold, and they mentioned how gold has been recycled and traded around the globe for centuries. They said your wedding band may contain molecules of ancient Egyptian or Peruvian gold that has been melted down and traded. - Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation
We are stardust We are Golden we're 5 billion year old carbon garden On Jul 3, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel g...@gmx.net To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation So technically... and loosely speaking of course, all planets are made of meteorites... Well, look at your fingernails - that´s nothing but reworked stellar dust, if you take it to an extreme! Meteorites are somewhere in between... :-) Thanks for all the links, Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation
test On Jul 3, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel g...@gmx.net To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation So technically... and loosely speaking of course, all planets are made of meteorites... Well, look at your fingernails - that´s nothing but reworked stellar dust, if you take it to an extreme! Meteorites are somewhere in between... :-) Thanks for all the links, Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Last Night I sold My 25, 000 Meteorite Specimen!
I got me some too On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:33 PM, michael cottingham wrote: Hello All... Not that this means much in the scheme of thingsbut as far as my business goes it is pretty amazing. Last night my ebay auctions concluded for the week and I sold my 25,000th meteorite. I keep fairly accurate records and the number of 25,000 is for meteorite specimens that have a collection card with them. Some other interesting tidbits... I started selling in 1997. I was the third person to start selling meteorites on ebay. I have never had a personal website (Unless you count my ebay store). Now, my question is WHERE ARE ALL THOSE SPECIMENS NOW? Best Wishes Michael _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
Sure ate up a lot of bandwidth On May 22, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Warren Sansoucie wrote: So What I gather is that you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that are almost as old as I am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can see a naked indian sweeping his front porch??? Ok... so say I do see this... how does that make it really there?? Why can't someone show me a picture that is clear. why do I have to eat funny mushrooms and focus until I see something. Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned at the wedding is crystal clear, but the next photo taken is so blury and shaky that you wonder if its a U.F.O. or a smashed tea kettle. Show me da money. I don't have to be trained to see my house. I don't have to be trained to see the red spot on Jupiter. Why do I have to be trained to see low rent real estate in Mars photos that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on the air? Warren Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700 From: balisterja...@att.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!! I was not going to post this but you asked for it. You have to be trained! http://www.123opticalillusions.com/ - Original Message From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!! No, sorry Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an optical illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special light. Best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!! Yes, it works!!! I clearly see a bird! http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg Amazing, isn't it? Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; href=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; href=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Notkin Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Mai 2010 23:58 An: Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!! James Balister wrote: You look at it and see nothing then suddenly a bird pops into view! Exactly! http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg : ) Geoff N. href=http://www.aerolite.org;www.aerolite.org href=http://www.meteoritemen.com;www.meteoritemen.com target=_blank href=http://www.facebook.com/AeroliteMeteorites;www.facebook.com/AeroliteMeteorites target=_blank href=http://www.facebook.com/meteoritemen;www.facebook.com/meteoritemen target=_blank href=http://www.twitter.com/meteoritemen;www.twitter.com/meteoritemen __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list href=mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at href=http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html; target=_blank http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list href=mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com href=http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list; target=_blank http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at href=http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html; target=_blank http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list href=mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com href=http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list; target=_blank http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Exactly what this list is for!
Can't agree more Tom! Jerry On May 18, 2010, at 7:50 PM, starsinthed...@aol.com wrote: 1.ON POSSIBLE SOLAR ORIGIN OF METEORITIC NANODIAMONDS 2.WHERE ARE THE NANODIAMONDS IN PRIMITIVE METEORITES? PRELIMINARY TEM RESULTS 3. Presolar grains from meteorites: Remnants from the early times of the solar system 4.Graphite/Diamond discussion. (Answer to my question) A recent series of informative Met List posts by: Shawn Alan eBayshop http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p 4340 I can't speak for Art, but as far as I am concerned, it is this kind of contribution that the Met List is for. Well done Shawn. I enjoyed them and got quite a bit out of them. Sure, I could have looked some of the information up my self, but I just never got around to it. You answered several questions I had held onto for quite some time. I hope the list will turn a corner and become known for these kind of communications!!! Tom Phillips __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube
WOW and a 1/2, Marcin What a great look. Nice work. They all show up splendidly! Jerry On May 17, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: Hello From long time I wanted to make a video documentation of my specimens (main masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I decided that its time to start this experiment. I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens from my collection and my unclassified main masses that still waiting and waiting for their NWA numbers. From other side its good that their classifications takes soo long, becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time ago. Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about my videos. In near future I want make more movies with more efects and ofcourse longer. If someone can turn off this rain over europe, I plan even make some in field movies :) I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very simple, but good AVS Video Editor. Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies) http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] East Coast Fireball - May 10th, 2010
FINALLY! RIGHT OFF CAPE COD. IGOT MY WET SUIT ON! On May 13, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Mike Hankey wrote: I imported the AMS reports from Monday morning's reported fireball into google earth. Based on witness reports on the AMS and Frank Roylance's blog it sounded like a pretty big possibly meteorite dropping event. 33 AMS reports for 4:45 AM is a lot. It was sighted as far south as South Carolina and as far north as Massachusetts. Reports of fragmentation etc. But... as far as I can tell this thing flew over and landed in the Atlantic. Would be interested in hearing second opinions. I posted a map image of the observations and the google earth file on my blog. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/comets/east-coast-fireball-may-10th-2010-445-am/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 30, 2010
Nice find nice pic, Mike and Mike!! On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_30_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham finds a 51 gram Hammer Stone from the Wisconsin fireball
Way to go Mike! On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/cottingham_wisconsin.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
from my new mac mini Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Great Global Warming Swindle Doc.
Robert, Great head's up on this one. Way to go. It's what I've been trying to say all along in my own inept way. The science rings true in this case. CO2 ^ FOLLOWS warming! Oceans are the sink tanks, the resevoirs, and the producers of CO2, all of which is temperature driven. Folks take the hour to follow Robert's link if you consider yourself OPENMINDED. Good Science is based on suspended judgement. No one doubts the warming trend. The question what can people do about it? First find the cause and address IT. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Robert Williamson To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] The Great Global Warming Swindle Doc. Well, I guess I'll contribute a bit to this off-topic discussion. But just a bit. Here are a couple of eye-opening films. http://leaningstraightup.com/2007/03/11/the-global-warming-swindle-video/ The Great Global Warming Swindle---By Britain's Channel 4 And Global Warming: Doomsday Called Off -- By the CBC at the same website. Very revealing. Rob Williamson -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 11, 2007
Hi Don and List, An unclassified METEORITE is first a meteorite and secondly unClassified. If it's not a meteorite it's a meteorwrong! Never was, never will be. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Don Rawlings To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 11,2007 Is an unclassified meteorite really a meteorite without scientific verification? Or is it just a probable meteorite? Don. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:41:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good Lord.. another unclassifed meteorite as Picture of the day? Yawn. There should be a rule. No unclassifieds as Picture of the day. Don Sorry you're disappointed Don but you know you don't have to view them if you choose not to! I post what collectors send me and if they want to share with others rather classified or not I see nothing wrong with it. Sincerely, Michael Johnson ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Don Rawlings -- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce
SOME say the world will end in fire Some say ice From what I've tasted of desire I'd hold those who favor fire But if it had to perish twice I think I know enough of hate To know that for destruction Ice is great And would suffice Robert Frost AKA chillman Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce Good evening Folks, Not wanting to intentionally stir the pot of angst, I won't share my opinions regarding the validity of the global warming theory..in great part because it conflicts with the beliefs of roughly half of the List and, arguably, neither extreme (entirely pro or con) position is capable of clear and convincing scientific proof at this stage. And also, because, in greater part, I will admit that I am truly uncertain which argument has greater credibility. I would submit two widely held, and generally accepted, scientific theorems to consider before taking sides in this debate: 1. Entropy 2. Perpetual Motion Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah GA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 12, 2007
Space Art of the highest order. Simply amazing. Thanks to Michael and Anne. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 12, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/June_12_2007.html ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty droplets/AD
Al, thanks a lot for the information. I might have missed the tip about recharging the dessicants on previous threads so the information you provided obviates the need of my asking something that I've wondered about. Microwaves are out right?? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: giovannisostero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty droplets/AD Hi All, You can also purchase one or more of my new Meteorite Dry products and place in your display cabinet. I've been experimenting with these in my own cabinets. They are basically dessicant/silica gel with mostly white crystals but I have added enough of the blue crystals that they turn color when they become moist. Since they are in a perforated tube with caps it allows the drier to do it's job without coming into contact with the meteorites. I'd say the draw back (if it is any at all) is having to pull the end off a tube, place the dessicant in a pan and place in a pre-heated oven at about 350 degrees for about a half hour or less so you can re-use over and over. They seem to fit well into my crowed cases and although I have done a good job at keeping specimens, I have found these are still pulling some humidity from the cases over a period of time despite my precautions. My initial offering of these had a fair turn out but I thought more people would be interested in these and protecting specimens. I was expecting more responses than I received. If anyone is interested in these please contact me off list. Some meteorites are rust prone, Ghubara is one of them. Even under perfect preparation methods if not properly kept they will still oxidize as the oxygen molecules attach themselves to the iron in specimens. Living in a low humidity climate helps but a lot of us don't have that option and so keeping specimens as dry as possible is the best answer. All my best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites mark ford wrote: or use dessicant/silica gel with the rock and recharge it regularly). They also preferably need to be kept somewhere dry like inside a cabinet with dessicators inside, or better still a dehumidifier. Most slices reach a stable point eventually once you have done this! Best Mark Ford __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shergotty a eucrite ... not: Then and Now
Bernd and List, # 5 is definitely a NEW item and well worth a bonus point. Thanks for the update Bernd. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Shergotty a eucrite ... not: Then and Now Hello List, We all know that the acronym SNC stands for the three typical samples of the group: Shergotty, Nakhla, and Chassigny. But 135 years ago, G. Tschermak was still unaware of the exotic nature of these meteorites and grouped them with the eucrites. In 1872, he wrote: Shergotty, which I described several years ago, should also be included with the eucrites. It is a conspicuously granular rock consisting essentially of dull yellow-gray grains and prisms, which were found to be augite, and water-clear glassy grains and laths. The latter resemble no known mineral; I named this material maskelynite. The SNC's must have come from a different parent body - different from Earth, from our Moon, and from the parent body or bodies of the HED suite. This is reflected in the displacement of their oxygen isotopes when plotted in a diagram (see O.R. Norton's Encyclopedia of Meteorites, p. 157, Fig. 8,15). Another telling feature of the SNC group is their young crystallization ages - in other words they must have come from a celestial neighbor where volcanic activity was an ongoing process not too long ago. According to Susanne Schwenzer et al., the following observations are considered highly indicative of a Martian origin of the SNC meteorites: 1. SNC meteorites belong to one group, as proven by many chemical and isotopic investigations, pointing to a common parent body. 2. All SNC meteorites are differentiated magmatic rocks, with some of them showing volcanic textures. 3. The young crystallization ages of 1.3 Gyr, requiring a parent body that still shows igneous activity at such a late time in solar system history. 4. Direct evidence from Viking 1, when the concentrations and compositions of noble gases in the Martian atmosphere were measured and compared to those found in SNC meteorites in our collections. 5. The rovers Spirit and Opportunity found rocks on Mars with chemical signatures identical to those of some of the Martian meteorites in our collections (Bounce Rock, for example, has geochemical characteristics, such as the Fe/Mg ratio, consistent with that of shergottites). Reference: Schwenzer S. et al. (2007) Noble gases in mineral separates from three shergottites: Shergotty, Zagami, and EETA79001 (MAPS 42-3, pp. 387-412, Introduction). Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: Breathtaking Views ofDeuteronilus Mensae on Mars
If you haven't clicked on Mars Express Image Browser[upper right corner under date] you're missing a splendid tour de force at you fingertips which reviews images BUT also provides geographic location. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: Breathtaking Views ofDeuteronilus Mensae on Mars http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMBS5V681F_index_0.html Breathtaking views of Deuteronilus Mensae on Mars Deuteronilus Mensae region on Mars Mars Express European Space Agency 21 May 2007 The High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA's Mars Express has captured breathtaking images of the Deuteronilus Mensae region on Mars. The images were taken on 14 March 2005 during orbit number 1483 of the Mars Express spacecraft with a ground resolution of approximately 29 metres per pixel. They show the Deuteronilus Mensae region, located on the northern edge of Arabia Terra and bordering the southern highlands and the northern lowlands. Situated at approximately 39° North and 23° East, Deuteronilus Mensae are primarily characterised by glacial features. The scene is illuminated by the Sun from the south-west (from bottom left in the image). [Image] Deuteronilus Mensae seen in context The scene is dominated by a depression measuring approximately 2 000 metres in depth and 110 kilometres in diameter, north to south. Visible in the centre of the first image, the interior of the depression is characterised by dark material, differing from the light-toned surrounding plains. [Image] Perspective view of Deuteronilus Mensae Deeply incised valleys of a depth ranging from 800 to 1 200 metres are clearly identifiable in the northern part of the scene. Deeply incised valleys with a depth ranging from 800 to 1 200 metres are clearly identifiable in the northern part of the scene. It is believed that these valleys may have originated due to intense flooding by melted water ice. The water then froze rather quickly, flowing down the slopes of the depression like a glacier. Aeolian sediments (eroded by the action of wind) traced the flow pattern on the surface. [Image] Perspective view of Deuteronilus Mensae The northern part exhibits a finger - shaped elevation which was circumvented by the masses of water and ice. To the west, the flow of water mixed with ice broke through another elevation and formed a drop - shaped feature while flowing into the depression. [Image] Black and white nadir view of Deuteronilus Mensae Mars experienced numerous events of this kind in the past, when rising magma or impacts caused frozen groundwater to melt resulting in major flooding events. One of the most striking features on Mars is the dichotomy between the southern highlands and the northern plains, lower by up to 3 kilometres. The boundary between these two regions is marked by a transition characterised by an intact highland zone and areas with remnant mesas and isolated eroded knobs. The scene of Deuteronilus Mensae depicts different stages of highland degradation. Numerous flow patterns in wide valleys and along ridges and scarps indicate movement of debris mixed with ice towards the surrounding areas. Since the discovery of these structures, scientists assume that the mixture of debris and ice resembles rock glaciers commonly found in cold-climate areas on the Earth. As on Earth, these landscapes are climate indicators. Whether ice could be still present in the porous spaces in Martian features and how active these landforms may be today is still a subject of discussion. [Image] 3D Anaglyph view of Deuteronilus Mensae The colour scenes have been derived from the three HRSC colour channels and the nadir channel. The perspective views have been calculated from the digital terrain model derived from the stereo channels. The anaglyph image was calculated from the nadir and one stereo channel. The black and white high - resolution images were derived from the nadir channel which provides the highest detail of all channels. Image resolution has been decreased for easier downloading. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Micrographs: The Perfect Chondrule?
It's like slicing opened a Geode. Chondrules AKA Primordialodes, Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Micrographs: The Perfect Chondrule? http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2037.html?theme=light My wife, Ginny Phillips has submitted some meteorite micrographs in the past that have been used (here here). I thought you might get a kick out of these. I was surprised to see the level of interest and knowledge in the Coast to Coast audience. A lot of cool emails! Way back at the beginning of time (at least for our solar system) particles of space dust were forming in tiny balls, these balls formed larger masses which eventually combined to form planets. I think you could say that was the short version of the story! Any way, meteorite rock (most stone meteorites) is made up of these hardened balls of dust called chondrules. The type class is based on the condition and abundance of these chondrules. Heat and shock alteration has erased evidence of chondrules to some degree in all meteorites. I like to look for chondrules that stand out from their matrix as different and look (at least visually) to be altered very little. These images are of two of these chondrules polished to 1/4 micron and viewed in reflected light and in their natural color. This may be as close as we can get to actually look at the dust balls that eventually built our planet. --Tom Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Solar System Photos
Pete, an unquestionably exciting site. Remarkable photos for a ground based 14 inch scope and the text is quite detailed and insightful. Thanks for the link. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Solar System Photos Hi, all, Lots of solar system pics and gifs here, if you have some time... http://damianpeach.com/index2.htm http://damianpeach.com/index2.htm Cheers, Pete _ See Fireworks On Live Image Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=Fireworksmkt=en-caFORM=SERNEP __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] canyon diablo forsale
OHHH! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] canyon diablo forsale Hello again list.I should have made it clear.I do not care if you have any,I want to know if anyone has any canyon diablo forsale?I am sorry for the mistake. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] large metal detector opinions wanted
Hey Matt, the price isn't listed on the site. How much are we talking? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] large metal detector opinions wanted Has anyone used one of these larger coils from IGK? The price seems really good for a 3.3 ft square coil. Any others?? http://www.igkelectronics.com/metal_detector_PI_PI907.html Thanks, Matt -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] large metal detector opinions wanted
Marcin, thanks. 945euros ain't cheap. What's that $1200 or $1300 US?? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] large metal detector opinions wanted Hey Matt, the price isn't listed on the site. How much are we talking? Jerry Flaherty http://www.igkelectronics.com/metal_detectors_PI.html here it is 945euro Its not revelation -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] large metal detector opinions wanted Has anyone used one of these larger coils from IGK? The price seems really good for a 3.3 ft square coil. Any others?? http://www.igkelectronics.com/metal_detector_PI_PI907.html Thanks, Matt -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ NOD32 Informacje 2233 (20070501) __ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] article of interest in Nature
Thank you Sterling for accessing the abstract and especially thanks for the translation, which is what I surmised. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] article of interest in Nature Hi, Jerry, List, Here's the abstract: The abundance of chlorine in the Earth is highly depleted relative to carbonaceous chondrites and solar abundances. Knowledge of the Cl concentrations and distribution on Earth is essential for understanding the origin of these depletions. Large differences in the stable chlorine isotope ratios of meteoritic, mantle and crustal materials have been used as evidence for distinct reservoirs in the solar nebula and to calculate the relative proportions of Cl in the mantle and crust. Here we show, using a new analytical procedure, that these large isotopic differences do not exist, and that carbonaceous chondrites, mantle and crust all have the same 37Cl/35Cl ratios. There is no evidence for multiple nebular reservoirs with distinct isotopic compositions. That is to say, there is no evidence to support addition to the crustal/atmospheric reservoir of late material of cometary origin. We have further analyzed crustal sediments from early Archean to Recent and find no isotopic variations with age, demonstrating that the mantle and crust have always had the same d37Cl value. The similarity of mantle, crust and carbonaceous chondrites establishes that there was no isotopic fractionation during differentiation of the Earth and no late Cl-bearing volatile additions to the crustal veneer with unique isotopic composition. Translation: Despite the fact that there are big differences in the amount of chlorine in the Earth's crust and mantle (on the one hand) and carbonacious chondrites and the Sun (on the other hand), we think the ratio of stable isotopes everywhere in the solar system is the same (even though other folks get different measurements), and that proves that everything came out of the same cookpot, 'cause our method of measuring is better than theirs. Specifically, they want to shoot down the idea that there was a last-minute accretion of comets and such on the surface of the Earth that would explain why crust is so different than mantle. Presumably, this would also shoot down the idea that the Earth's water was brought to it largely by comets. The quarrel we call knowledge goes on... Sterling - - Original Message - From: Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] article of interest in Nature Chlorine isotope homogeneity of the mantle, crust and carbonaceous chondrites Z. D. Sharp et al. Nature doi: 10.1038/nature05748 First Paragraph | Full Text | PDF I only get these text messages with no links but if anyone who has access to Nature cares to explore and report ? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold on CNBC Tonight
Geoff and List, I viewed this episode and Steve Arnold was not a part of it. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold on CNBC Tonight Greetings all: Viewers in North America might like to know that our own Steve Brenham Arnold will be a guest star on CNBC TV tonight. He will be interviewed by Donny Deutsch for The Big Idea and will be talking about his big Brenham finds. Air time is 10 pm with a repeat at 1 am Eastern time. Check local listings for details. Here's the website: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838512 I don't have cable, so somebody throw in a tape for me, okay : ) Would hate to miss the show. Regards to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] article of interest in Nature
Chlorine isotope homogeneity of the mantle, crust and carbonaceous chondrites Z. D. Sharp et al. Nature doi: 10.1038/nature05748 First Paragraph | Full Text | PDF I only get these text messages with no links but if anyone who has access to Nature cares to explore and report ? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious stone eggs...
Paul and List, does this help?? Looking at the lowermost figure in the Chinese article, I have to wonder, being unable to read Chinese, if the author of the Chinese article is confusing them with the man made stone balls in Costa Rica. (A translation of this article would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Paul H. According to geological experts in photo analysis, the stone eggs is a rare stone in the large carbonate nodules. fluctuations in the water for a nuclear center, a rolling snowball has gradually taken shape. ???,??,???As to what the exact ingredients that can be analyzed to determine, for a lot of uses of stone eggs are also pending verification. ??,??,?, Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mysterious stone eggs... kevin decker asked if the Mysterious stone eggs... from Hunan Province..China. were Something like The Eggs from the Osceola Impact Crater? No. They are meter-scale, cannonball concretions. Cannonball concretions, composed of carbonate-cemented sediments, of their size have been found in a number of places, including: 1. Rock City, Kansas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_City%2C_Kansas 2. Along the along the Cannonball River within Morton and Sioux Counties, North Dakota http://nd.water.usgs.gov/lewisandclark/points/concretions.html http://nd.water.usgs.gov/lewisandclark/photos2.html http://meteorites.wustl.edu/id/cannonball.htm 3. In the Frontier Formation in northeast Utah and central Wyoming. http://jsedres.sepmonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/462 http://www.wvup.edu/ecrisp/crisphomepage.htm 4. Along the shores of Hokianga Harbour of Hokianga, North Island, New Zealand http://www.hokiangatourism.org.nz/activities/koutuboulders.htm 5. near Mecevici, Ozimici, and Zavidovici in Bosnia-Herzegovina and 6. near Moeraki, South Island, New Zealand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moeraki_Boulders http://jsedres.sepmonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/55/3/398 http://www.teara.govt.nz/1966/M/MoerakiBoulders/MoerakiBoulders/en Some papers, which describe, illustrate, and discuss the origin of cannonball concretions, which are similar in size to the Chinese mysterious stone eggs are: Abdel-Wahab, A., and E. F. McBride, 2001, Origin of giant calcite-cemented concretions, Temple Member, Qasr El Sagha Formation (Eocene), Faiyum depression, Egypt. Journal Sedimentary Research. vol. 71, pp. 70-81. Boles, J. R., C. A. Landis, and P. Dale, 1985, The Moeraki Boulders; anatomy of some septarian concretions. Journal of Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 55, no. 3, pp. 398-406. Forsyth, P. J., and G. Coates, 1992, The Moeraki boulders. Institute of Geological Nuclear Sciences. Information Series no. 1, Lower Hutt, New Zealand. McBride, E. F., and K. L. Milliken, 2006, Giant calcite-cemented concretions, Dakota Formation, central Kansas, USA. Sedimentology. vol. 53, no. 5, pp. 1161-1179. McBride, E. F., M. D. Picard, and K. L. Milliken, 2003, Calcite- Cemented Concretions in Cretaceous Sandstone, Wyoming and Utah, U.S.A. Journal of Sedimentary Research. vol. 73, no. 3, pp. 462-483. Thyne, G. D., and J. R. Boles, 1989, Isotopic evidence for origin of the Moeraki septarian concretions, New Zealand: Journal of Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 59, no. 2, pp. 272-279. The original article which discusses the Mysterious stone eggs is: Mysterious Huge Stone Eggs Discovered in Hunan Province, Epoch Times Staff, April 17, 2007. It can be found at: http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-4-17/54224.html The article stated in part: Upon photo analysis geologists believe that the stone eggs are rare, large concretions of the carbonate rock. They were formed, starting from a tiny nucleus in the center, snowballing slowly in the oscillating sea water. In this sentence, the reporter has very likely either mistranslated what the geologists told him or her or is indulging in some poetic license in writing his his story. No geologist, whom I know, would argue that these concretions formed like snowballs. Instead, these concretions, like many other cannonball concretions, started growing within sediment underlying the bottom of a sea or ocean only after it had accumulated. In the pictures accompanying the articles, the original layering of the strata, in which the concretion grew, can be seen as concentric rings around one of these concretions. The original Chinese article is at http://epochtimes.com/gb/7/4/1/n1665041.htm Looking at the lowermost figure in the Chinese article, I have to wonder, being unable to read Chinese, if the author of the Chinese article is confusing them with the man made stone balls in Costa Rica. (A translation of this article would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Paul H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of
Re: [meteorite-list] Easton noting meteorite anniversary
Hey Mike, Thanks a lot. As a New Englander[Plymouth, MA] I can appreciate the significance of this particular meteorite. 200 years of New England weather in all likelihood has meant the demise of any relics of this classic. Yet it is encouraging to note that there is a strewnfield within 150 miles of my home. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Easton noting meteorite anniversary http://origin.connpost.com/localnews/ci_5724143 Easton noting meteorite anniversary TONY SPINELLI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecticut Post Online Article Launched:04/21/2007 11:13:04 PM EDT It's a 28-pound rock, colored gray and brown, the kind you might stumble across on a hike through an old New England quarry. But there's a lot of historical significance to the chunk of stone, which was plucked from an Easton field in this rural town and placed on permanent display at the Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale University in New Haven. It is believed to be the first recorded meteorite to hit the United States. The find was so earth-shaking at the time that President Thomas Jefferson was skeptical. Members of the Easton Historical Society have been thinking about the stone a lot these days, because Dec. 14 will mark the 200th anniversary of when it blazed out of the northern sky in the pre-dawn hours and exploded over Easton. The historical society is planning a reception in honor of the anniversary for the fall. There will also be a visit to an observatory, said Lynne Geane, president of the society. We are very excited about this, Geane said last week, before a visit to the museum to take another look at the stone and, perhaps, get permission to borrow it. The rock is on exhibit with a number of other meteorites, said Barbara Narenda, archivist of meteorites at the museum. It is called the Weston Meteorite, because Easton was a part of Weston at the time. Technically, the meteorite is called a chondrite, meaning that it contains chondrules, microscopic to marble-sized spherical globs of silicates from the earliest solar nebula, sometimes pre-dating even planetary formation, according to the Web site novaspace.com. It's not the first meteorite to hit the United States, but it is the first to be recorded, Narenda said. In 1807, when the meteorite struck, the local population was limited to a couple of hundred farmsteads separated by stone walls, streams, and woods, said Frank Pagliaro, a member of the research committee for the historical society. At the time, two professors from Yale, Benjamin Silliman and James L. Kingsley, immediately went to investigate. They found what they were looking for in a field. The rock they found 200 years ago is the one that remains on display. When Jefferson, who was president at the time, heard the story, he was skeptical. It is rumored he said, I would more easily believe that two Yankee professors would lie than that stones would fall from heaven. Another story version of story has Jefferson saying the find was all a lie. What is known is that Jefferson ordered a new investigation of the story, which supported the Yale professors' findings. While fewer than 10 softball-sized meteorites were found, Pagliaro said, it is possible that Easton's fields and woods contain more samples. This spring, as you are turning over the soil in your garden or field, keep an eye out for rocks that look unlike any of those that make up Easton's many stone walls. These stony meteorites have a black, cracked surface like old leather and a granular interior, Pagliaro wrote in a letter to society members. The meteorites are 17 to 20 percent iron, which oxidizes like an old gate and gives the rocks a rust color. The iron content also makes them heavier than they appear to be for their size. Think of one in your hands as the weight of history, he said. The streaking fireball was a light show to behold in the days before there were such things as electric lights. The metorite was seen speeding across the sky in Vermont and Massachusetts. Moments after it vanished over Easton, Pagliaro said the quiet morning air was shattered by several thunderous booms. Within seconds, the showers of stones fell from the sky over an area 10 miles long and four miles wide. The area of falling stones stretched from the Stepney area of Monroe to the southern part of Sport Hill Road in Easton. That's a lot of rock. And it's a unique claim to fame for a town that many people from out-of-town think of only as a place to buy farm-cut Christmas trees, festive wreaths and orchard apples. We want to get the word out about this, Geane said. Tony Spinelli, who covers Monroe and Easton, can be reached at330-6361. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Worden Meteorite Dust
Apparently this item has beem removed! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Worden Meteorite Dust Hi Juris all, Lest people think material of this fall readily available, be advised that none has been seen on the market since the original owner, Matt Morgan retired the end piece to his own collection. I had my own piece wire cut and offer the resulting slice at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html However, you will note that the price is no doubt far greater than the material Juris has to offer and his offering should definitely not be overlooked by potential bidders among the serious collectors out there. Best wishes, Michael on 4/20/07 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for looking. http://cgi.ebay.com/Worden-Meteorite-Cutting-Dust-L5-Ordinary-Chondrite_W0QQit emZ200100286550QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Juris Breikss [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran -- Success is not counted by how high you have climbed but by how many people you brought with you. Anonymous -- I have given two cousins to war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife's brother. Artemus Ward -- -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Building better blades?
Darren and list this is indeed most interesting. Cutting has always intimidated me but with this material in a thin band or scroll saw, one could accomplish the task in less time and with a lot less waste. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Building better blades? Looks promising as a future improvement over diamond cutting blades. http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn11670-supertough-material-mimics-metal-and-crystal.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saturn's Spokes: Spawned by Storms?
Laboratory in Dorking, Dorking? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Saturn's Spokes: Spawned by Storms? http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/419/1 Saturn's Spokes: Spawned by Storms? By Govert Schilling ScienceNOW Daily News 19 April 2007 PRESTON, U.K.--Dark, radial spokes in the rings of Saturn have puzzled planetary astronomers ever since they were discovered by the Voyager spacecraft in the early 1980's. Today, at the Royal Astronomical Society National Astronomy Meeting here, scientists described how the enigmatic features could be caused by thunderstorms and lightning. It's one of the best theories I've heard so far, says Carl Murray of Queen Mary University of London. The spokes are clouds of electrostatically charged dust particles that float above and below the ring plane. But there's no consensus on how they form. Astronomers have suggested that meteorite impacts or solar wind particles may do the charging, but no single theory has been able to explain all the observed characteristics of the spokes, such as their locations, shapes, clustering behavior, and--most notably--their puzzling absence between October 1998 and September 2005. Enter the thunderstorm model, proposed by Geraint Jones of the Mullard Space Science Laboratory in Dorking, U.K., and colleagues, and presented at the meeting by team member Christopher Arridge. According to this idea, energetic beams of electrons produced above these storms are transported to the rings by Saturn's magnetic field, where they charge the dust and lift it out of the ring plane. If the storms occur at approximately 43 degrees latitude north or south, the electrons end up in a part of the ring that rotates at the same speed as the planet, so spokes can build up. Their absence between 1998 and 2005--about one quarter of a Saturnian year--may be just a seasonal effect in the occurrence of thunderstorms at this particular latitude, the astronomers speculate. The thunderstorm model nicely explains why spokes occur in groups, says spoke expert Colin Mitchell of the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado. But, he says, it doesn't account for the very narrow spokes that are also observed. Spokes seem to be a pretty complicated problem, says Mitchell. We definitely don't have the final word yet. Confirmation could come from NASA's Cassini probe, which is orbiting Saturn. If a thunderstorm is seen at the same time and the right location, Mitchell says, that would be an indicator that the model is a good starting point. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite smugglers anger scientists
Hello Moni and List, If the article is referring to unclassified material,which would make sense, thereby allowing material never to reach the scientific community, the point is well taken. On ther other hand, without this kind of transport, where would this material abide? In the desert because the nomads would have no market? With the Moroccon dealers who'd sell it to the highest bidder? Certainly not to the scietific community whose ill funded programs would never allow therm to purchase. If by some chance the scientists could get hold of it, the backup of classification would be quintrupled and stuff would sit forever in drawers somewhere unappreciated and just as lost to this and subsequent generations. So the general public has access to these treasures and at least 600 members of this list get to study and discuss and compare and make informed though informal judgements about them. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Moni Waiblinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite smugglers anger scientists Good Morning list-members, you may want to read this with you coffee this morning. This was send from Rob E. to another list. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6549197.stm Happy day, Moni _ Mortgage refinance is Hot. *Terms. Get a 5.375%* fix rate. Check savings https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h2bbbdisc=yvers=925s=4056p=5117 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] To whom it may concern........
Ruben, I'm sorry to hear about your decision and for the reasons behind it. I have enjoyed reading about your exploits through the List over the years. Good luck in any endeavor you choose to pursue. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] To whom it may concern Hi all, It is with sadness and regret that I am writing today. I've been thinking about this for some time now, and today I have made my final decision. Let me explain. Due to certain personalities in this hobby I have grown more and more disenchanted with meteorites, meteorite collecting and meteorite hunting. Also, in February I was told by my dermatologist to stay out of the sun. This is because of non-cancerous lesions that have appeared on my face and hands over the last year. According to him my attempts at covering up are not working. Since I am allergic to sun block I am pretty much out of luck. I've always said that when this hobby ceased being fun I'd cease doing it. I'm done. To make a long story short, I have already taken down my website and will remove myself from this forum a.s.a.p. I will no longer write about meteorites or meteorite hunting. I am walking away from all the trouble and trouble makers. It's just not worth it. Unfortunately, I'll also leave behind the fun and excitement that I used to have when finding meteorites with my son, or teaching a newbie. I will honor any deals or agreements regarding meteorites that I've made in the past. Don't feel sorry for me or my son though. I'm sure that we'll start doing all the things normal Fathers and Sons do. Diamondbacks and Suns games here we come! Thanks to everyone that helped make the last 9 years enjoyable. Goodbye, Ruben Garcia Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Giving credit where (official) credit is due
Sonny, I've never had the opportunity to hunt meteorites in a reasonably productive area. Having read your latest post though makes sense to me. Maintaining secrecy would make sense and if Provisional Numbers are postponed what's the difference. In the long run everything would iron out. The site would be made known as well as the total weight and the classification. So why the rush? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Giving credit where (official) credit is due In a message dated 4/11/2007 12:34:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But that's all I'm asking of Sonny; to get the credit he deserves by securing it with provisional names and numbers. Otherwise, some other person could make another find from his study area unknowingly, and go ahead of him with getting that area named and 001 number approved, and worse, get published before Sonny could get proper credit. That's only one of many good reasons, Bob V. Hi Bob, I appreciate your concern. But lets try this one more time! The reason I do not wish to get a provisional number or name until all of the of the field work is complete is for this reason. Because of the loop hole you figured out many years ago! Not to say you that would do this. Example; Lets say a meteorite hunter has been working an area for a few years with many finds and received provisional numbers on all of his finds. Another is curious about this location. All he would have to do is say he found a couple meteorites from that location and request provisional numbers. The Nomenclature may reply Ok Bob,your provisional numbers will be 35 and 36! Bob never hunted this location, has just found out that 34 meteorites were recovered from this location. What a better resource for gaining information regarding a new location. This is a problem we have to address as a meteorite hunting community. I do not know the answer. We should come up with an idea on how to solve this problem. What the current system in place does is give confirmation of first meteorite found and credit to the finder. Unfortunately it can also be a source of information to someone digging for data. It is not the fault of the Nomenclature but a system that is in place. This is the reason I choose to wait on submitting information. Sonny - --- See what's free at AOL.com. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Publishing a book of photographs on meteorite thinsections
Mal and List, There is already such a publication, Meteorites In Thin Section, Lauretta Killgore 2005. Not that this would hinder the publication of a subsequent artsey book. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Publishing a book of photographs on meteorite thinsections Tom, Jeff, and list, Since I've been out of touch for a while, I have question regarding micro photography. Specially, art house type publication involving micro photography. After seeing Tom Phillips' stunning images of the meticulously prepared slides by Jeff Hodges it hit me, has anyone every published a book of photographs on meteorite thin sections -- sort of a coffee table art book (i.e. a pictorial essay)? If not, I would think Tom, Jeff, and others involved in this discipline, in one form or another, might possible be persuaded to think along these lines. Maybe, we as a community could even offer to contribute financially towards such a project to see that such a beautiful, rare sub discipline of art and science be made available to all. I know I would! It would also be kind of neat to see the meteorite community here, and the IMCA as well, be recognized publicly for our involvement to promote science, and meteoritics! We could be a catalyst in stirring the fertile ground of imagination of the young (and older of us as well). Except for the few in the scientific community, and a few other devotees, most of us who enjoy meteorites really never get a chance to really see such awe-inspiring, high quality, detailed images of one aspect of our hobby. It would even perhaps help to stir more interest in science, and meteoritics in particular, to the public at large -- especially school age children. I know some of you have published in the past in one form or another, and know of possible publishing houses that may wish to help in such an endeavor -- for a fee of course. :-) Just a thought. Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] using meteor trials
http://www.pingjockey.net/ List if you haven't heard of this new HAM technique I thought I'd pass it along. I'm a HAM and one of my buddies told me about this technique this evening.Using 2 meter radio[which is usually line of sight], and utilizing the continuous bombardment of micro meteorites this program allows long distance communication at a rate of 950wpm[an expert code sender/receiver can negotiate 100wpm] by interfacing computer keyboard with Morse code translator and transmitter. A Blue Blazer[a minute or more meteor trail] allows longer continuous communication. Now if WE could only use their savvey to identify and follow up on all their Blazers, we'd be able to be on the scene of major and seconary falls in a heartbeat? Jerry Flaherty IMCA# 1405 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Easter gift to the list. SAH 99555 Angrite XpolMicrographs from Tom
Tom, you have so perfected this technique to provide us with a window where question leads to question ad infinitum. The metal blebs in NWA 3159 @ 1600x are exquisite in their detail. The colors are a patchwork of unmatched beauty in their irrisitable ssuductiveness. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Easter gift to the list. SAH 99555 Angrite XpolMicrographs from Tom Hi List, I have a bunch of Easter colors for you to check out. Jeff Hodges has provided me some more unbelievable thin sections to image and, of course, I had to start with the Angrite. It is a beautiful polished thin of SAH 99555. I have picked two sets of six, the first taken at 160X and the second at 400X, both in cross polarized transmitted (pass through) light. The Angrite are to glassy to get good reflected light images but I'll keep at it. I'll send this set in an email to whoever emails me and asks. I do this because I don't want to just start sending image files to people who are not interested. It will be embedded in the email through AOL so no need to worry about attached file downloads (Those always make me nervous if I don't know who sent them). If you look at them and like them, please post to the list. I am trying to raise awareness of my micrograph Gallery http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ and some positive comments might encourage others to take a look. Thanks, Tom Phillips ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] HOW to Get a grip....
- Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] HOW to Get a grip Michael, I couldn't agree more, ignore, ignore, ignore. Scan a thread, if it's iffy delete subsequent ones. I'm certain I've missed some good information over the years but my time's too valuable to remain a witness to silly, senseless squabbles. Jerry Flaherty Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] signals from metal detectors
Thanks Michael. What detector do you use? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] signals from metal detectors Hollo List! I like most that have hunted for meteorites have also used a metal detector from time-to-time. I still don't know for sure if I was successful finding my first iron met with it. The jury is still out on that one. However, I once visited with a well-known collector who brought 'round several stones for some of us to look over. One of which was a piece of Allende CV3.2 Carbonaceous Chondrite. I will probably never forget the night I got to hold that stone in my hands. Talk about thrilled. Anyway, while the kind gentleman was there showing us his Meteorites, I asked him if I could run the Allende over the coil of my Gold Bug. He said sure and so I did. I discovered a very distinct tone when doing so. Something I had not heard before using that detector. I'm quite good with the detector and can easily tell the difference between a penny and a dime. By that I am not bragging but simply stating that I know the tones it gives for different things, (most things that is). The signal that I heard as the Allende went over the coil is one that I will listen for from now on. Very much all its own. My experience with the detector and other meteorites is, with the exception of the little micros (suspect stones) I have, virtually nothing. So here is the gist of this email: What can some of you other detector hunters tell me about how meteorites sound off on your detectors? (Not the irons or stony irons of course). Michael Murray nom de plume - Rockbiter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites, their parent bodies, strewn fields, and beta
Ed, your representation of the poosity of parent bodies IS in line with the theme in Ancient Astroid the TV show which explored the origins of LDS. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites, their parent bodies, strewn fields,and beta Hi everyone - My apologies once again for not yet writing a full thanks you note to everyone from Tucson, but I hope you'll understand... I've already mentioned Mexico Doug and some others, but let me also thank Impactika, Anne Black, and Chladnis's Heirs, for the fine specimens. There's others who I need to thank, but I don't think that this is the place to do it, for reasons which they know. The reason for this note is that this is important. I hope you all know that meteorites are more dense than their parent bodies. I can't point you to an easy internet site where you may learn this if you don't. Now that this difference in density is ascribed to porosity, spaces in the parent bodies. It has turned out that the momentum imparted to a parent body when it is hit by a kinetic mass is far greater than the mere addition of moments, due to a jet reaction which occurs when the parent body is hit. This multiple of momentum is called beta, and it appears to be dependant on porosity. So how can you get some good estimates of beta, of porosity? I think that some answers to these questions may be gained by studying strew field distributions for the different types of meteorites. Why? Because those strewn fields, which show a small part of a parent body explodes when it hits the atmosphere, are also dependant on porosity. Does this make sense to all of you experts here? good hunting, Ed Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A
I hope this inference does not shine a light into some of your less than noteable youthful enterprizes, Ron.[just kidding] Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A We did discuss it but the angle of entry, the velocity, tended to dismiss it right off. A pro baseball pitcher would have had to be standing on the running board of a helicopter to launch it successfully, and we all know it would be hard to pitch from a helicopter. Dave F But rather easy to do for any 12-year old using a slingshot. :-) Ron B. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd meteorite
Hey Darren, Some of those white areas are located in the middle of the slice. Those on the edge would be susciptable to terrestrial weathering but unless the middle had been exposed to the same conditions you'll maybe have to look for another cause. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Odd meteorite Just finished re-sanding this odd-looking NWA. A 178 gram half-stone with highly weathered exterior but filled with clean metal. Seems to be a breccia with angular fragments and possible melt pockets. Could the white areas be terrestrial weathering? http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/temp/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo's Hatred SPAM
Anne, I'll venture a bizarre meso. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo's Hatred SPAM In a message dated 4/5/2007 10:42:41 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks! Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's time to calm down a little bit. Let's talk about the stuff this list was created for. BACK TO METEORITES, PLEASE!!! Is there anyone out there, who has a good meteorite related topic? Ingo -- Very good idea, Ingo. Did anybody notice the Picture of Day: _http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April_5_2007.html_ (http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April_5_2007.html) A beautiful, and surprising looking meteorite published by Svend Buhl. Anybody care to guess what the classification might turn out to be? We could even make bets. Or turn this into a contest, like we did with Moss. Anybody wants to try? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Two Views of the Moon's Composition
Abundance of Lunar refractory elements disputed. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: PSRD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:25 PM Subject: New Issue: Two Views of the Moon's Composition Announcement from Planetary Science Research Discoveries [PSRD] New Issue: There is a striking dichotomy in estimates of the abundance of refractory elements in the Moon. Full story with pdf link at: http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April07/Moon2Views.html - PSRD is an educational web site supported by NASA's Cosmochemistry Program and the Hawaii Space Grant Consortium to share the latest research on meteorites, planets, moons, and other solar system bodies. You are subscribed to our free mailing list. We never send attachments. For more information please see http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/PSRDsubscribe.html - Jeff Taylor and Linda Martel Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, University of Hawaii [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (808) 956-3899 fax (808) 956-6322 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Two Views of the Moon's Composition
2nd try Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: PSRD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:25 PM Subject: New Issue: Two Views of the Moon's Composition Announcement from Planetary Science Research Discoveries [PSRD] New Issue: There is a striking dichotomy in estimates of the abundance of refractory elements in the Moon. Full story with pdf link at: http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April07/Moon2Views.html - PSRD is an educational web site supported by NASA's Cosmochemistry Program and the Hawaii Space Grant Consortium to share the latest research on meteorites, planets, moons, and other solar system bodies. You are subscribed to our free mailing list. We never send attachments. For more information please see http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/PSRDsubscribe.html - Jeff Taylor and Linda Martel Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, University of Hawaii [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (808) 956-3899 fax (808) 956-6322 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moble phones attract asteroids!
Darren and List, I shouldn't think that this bizzare scenario will cause such a calamity since the ear channels leading to the brain are already seething with carbonate petroleum byproducts magnified 10 fold by the electromagnetic flux in the tens of millions of cell phone users throughout the globe. This active energetic ingredient plus the automobile mobile phone usage will no doubt decimate earth's population before any astroidal collisions become a serious problem. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Moble phones attract asteroids! http://www.mobilegazette.com/mobile-phones-to-destroy-earth-07x04x01.htm Will Mobile Phones Destroy the Earth? 1st April 2007 A shock report out this week will show that mobile phones prevent a bigger threat to the environment than anyone has imagined - in fact, it states that continued use of mobile handsets will lead to the extinction of all life on Earth. The claim seems outrageous, but it is backed by solid scientific prove that shows that the next text message you send could be responsible for the end of civilisation as we know it. The work by Professor Frühling Dummkopf of the Luton Institute of Astronomical Research is the first in its field, and it examines the interaction of small bodies such as asteroids, meteors and comets in close earth orbit with the effective of the electromagnetic fields generated by modern cellular devices. We interviewed Professor Dummkopf about these claims in a Mobile Gazette exclusive. MG: Professor Dummkopf - it seems to us that mobile phones are very tiny things and asteroids are quite big things that are a very long way away. Are you saying that the two can interact? Professor: Yes, although of course it takes more than one mobile phone to destroy the earth! MG: So, explain the problem for the benefit of our readers. Professor: It is really very simple. Most asteroids are primarily carbonaceous or silicaceous with a much smaller number of metallic asteroids. Out of this last group, a number of objects seemed to be anomalous. MG: Such as? Professor: Well, 21 Lutetia is probably one you've heard of. That one had been puzzling us for a long time because we couldn't classify it.. however careful observation and research has lead us to believe that it is primarily made from a crystalline Scandium based alloy which forms remarkably regular superlattices that measure 0.3331 metres across, so you can see the problem straight away. MG: Go on. Professor: Well of course, 0.3331 metres is the wavelength of a signal broadcast at 900 MHz. And it's twice the wavelength of a signal broadcast at 1800 MHz. These are the most common frequencies used by mobile phones. Put simply, we discovered that the structure of the superlattice tuned in to mobile phone signals. MG: So aliens are listening to our phone conversations? Professor: That would be silly, but what we did discover is that the resonance of the radio signals is causing electromagnetic induction in bodies such as 21 Lutetia which has the effect of shifting their orbits. That orbital shift is actually towards the earth. You could say the the earth has been charged up like a giant magnet and is pulling the bodies towards us. MG: You said bodies, do you mean that there's more than one? Professor: Yes, in fact [mobile phone rings] Sorry, I'd better get this. Hello? Yes, I'll be home at about seven o'clock. Yes, pasta will be fine. I've got to go. Errr.. where were we.. oh yes, we think that about 0.01% of small bodies in the solar system exhibit this property. That doesn't sound like much, but there are between one and two million bodies over one kilometre in size.. so that's about one or two hundred objects, some of which will be quite close to us. And 21 Lutetia is about 100 kilometres across. If that hits, then basically the earth is toast. MG: So we're all going to die? Professor: Yes. MG: So there's no chance you are wrong? Professor: We don't think so, although we did have to make certain assumptions. For example, the growth in mobile phone ownership over the past 25 years has been around 20,000 fold. If we assume the same rate of growth, by 2032 there will be 40 trillion handsets in use on the earth. That could present a serious problem. MG: Indeed Professor Dummkopf - we'd like to thank you and the institute for your time. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strewn fields?..Re: Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: March 26-30, 2007
Hi ensoramanda, Boy! it's an incredible sight when you magnify it. Something sure happened there. That would be a perfect set up for future missions like Spirit and Opportunity to explore. Finding similar materials at various closely allied craters would certainly point up an event such as you surmised. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: ensoramanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Strewn fields?..Re: Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: March 26-30, 2007 Hi, One of the themis images seems to show some great strewn field craters... unless they are made from debris from a nearby larger impact! Take a look here. http://themis.asu.edu/fullimages/20070329a Ron Baalke wrote: MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES March 26-30, 2007 o Russell Crater (Released 26 March 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070326a o THEMIS ART #76 (Released 27 March 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070327a o THEMIS ART #77 (Released 28 March 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070328a o THEMIS ART #78 (Released 29 March 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070329a o THEMIS ART #79 (Released 30 March 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070330a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] National Geographic Re-Airing Ancient Astroid, the origins of Libyan Desert Glass
Hi List, In response to Anne Black's picture of LDG in Michael Johnson's Rocks From Space a few days ago I posted news of a TV program concerned with one theory of the origins of Libyan Desert Glass. I didn't get much of a response from the List. I'm not sure why unless this subject is not of interest to anyone or everyone is comfortable with their personal understanding of the origins of LDG. Yet if anyone is so inclined, that show, Ancient Astroid, will be aired again on Tuesday April 3, at 12:00 noon Eastern Daylight Time on The National Geographic Channel. And Oh, you're welcome in advance to anyone to whom this notice might apply. Have a good evening. Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 29, 2007
Recently there was an interesting TV [I think the History Channel]special on the theoretical origin of Libyan Desert Glass. It proposed a Tunguska like air burst, in relatively recent geologic time in what was then an entirely different ecologic environment. Although the event proposed was several orders of magnitude greater than the Siberian catastrophe, the area effected was in no way the present spread of the Libyan field. Because of the Water in the what is the today's desert, the Glass was spread to its present area, [I think they said the area of Rhode Island]by drainage and swift flowing currents. Did anyone else see the show or hear of this theory? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 29, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March_29_2007.html ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 28, 2007
Great Photo Anne. Brings out the detail. What kind of sophisticated lighting do you employ? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 28, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March_28_2007.html ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes?
I've owned a pair of 10 mm cubes but haven't used them in any photos. I imagine the letters signify the 4 compass directions and top bottom. With an oriented FALL in situ, I understand how the cube would be used. My question is, if photographing a purchased meteorite for the purposes of scale ONLY, where orientation is not an obvious factor, is there a preferred cube face or is it arbitrary, up to the photographer? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes?
Hi Norbert, Greg and all. Excellent examples Norbert. Thanks for the answers By the way I think I grasp the B and its reverse but why not use the T instead of inverting the B? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes? Hi Norbert and all, Excellent! Thank you. I like the 3-D videos ;-) Gotta love technology! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Greg Hupe' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Gerald Flaherty' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes? Hi Greg, Jerry, and All, The cube can be put to use in a way that the letters also make sense in a studio environment, i.e. you define the Top and, let's say, the North side of the stone. I did this for the documentation of various planetary masses prior to cutting - have a look at the following example, the main mass of lunar meteorite Dhofar 1084, and you will see what I mean: http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084b.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084c.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084d.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084f.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084i.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084j.JPG This way you won't have problems to keep track of the original spatial orientation of the meteorite, making it more easy to get an impression of the entire mass, and its original shape. Of course, 3D movies are even better, but if you like photo series this is a good way to put the letters to use ,-) Hope this helps, Norbert Planetary Meteorites http://www.meteoris.de -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi Jerry, Good question regarding the scale cubes and if there is a certain way to orient the cube for photographing specimens after they have been removed from original find site. I personally put T on the top and usually W to the left, not for any particular reason, except for the obvious T for top. It would be interesting if there is a standard out there for the orientation of the cubes in a studio setting, I would think there would not be. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - I've owned a pair of 10 mm cubes but haven't used them in any photos. I imagine the letters signify the 4 compass directions and top bottom. With an oriented FALL in situ, I understand how the cube would be used. My question is, if photographing a purchased meteorite for the purposes of scale ONLY, where orientation is not an obvious factor, is there a preferred cube face or is it arbitrary, up to the photographer? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes?
Ah HAH! Now that makes sense. Thanks Anne Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Letters on centimeter cubes? In a message dated 3/27/2007 10:52:46 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Norbert, Greg and all. Excellent examples Norbert. Thanks for the answers By the way I think I grasp the B and its reverse but why not use the T instead of inverting the B? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084i.JPG http://www.meteoris.de/cube/Dho1084j.JPG --- Hello Jerry and List, When you compare those 2 pictures, I believe they both show the Bottom side of the specimen, but different directions. On one the flat side is down and on the other the flat side is on top. So both the cube and the specimen were turned 180 degrees (top - down). So the cube can be used to emphasize the different ways you are showing a particular specimen. Thank you Norbert for an excellent example. Do you see what I mean? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ancient Astroid
Has anyone seen the National Geographic special called Ancient Astroid? It is a recent study of Libian Desert Glass attributing its origin to an atmospheric blast a 1000x more powerful than that at Tunguska. Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society
Good Monday Morning List, Dawn and I plan to attend the 2007 Meteoritical Society Meeting at Tucson August 13-17. We expect that much of the Science will no doubt be over our heads. Oddly enough, what inspired our decision were the pre and post field trips which include Arizona birding, Meteor Crater and the Grand Canyon among other possible sites. David Kring will lead the geologic excursion and Drew Barringer will be our host at the Crater. I understand that temperature will impact our enjoyment but the positives seem worth the discomfort. I wondered if any List members paln to attend? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society
Great news Larry. Will look forward to meeting you there. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 70th annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society Hi Jerry: I will be there (here)! I think Anne Black is also thinking of coming. It is a dry heat. Larry On Mon, March 19, 2007 6:12 am, Gerald Flaherty wrote: Good Monday Morning List, Dawn and I plan to attend the 2007 Meteoritical Society Meeting at Tucson August 13-17. We expect that much of the Science will no doubt be over our heads. Oddly enough, what inspired our decision were the pre and post field trips which include Arizona birding, Meteor Crater and the Grand Canyon among other possible sites. David Kring will lead the geologic excursion and Drew Barringer will be our host at the Crater. I understand that temperature will impact our enjoyment but the positives seem worth the discomfort. I wondered if any List members paln to attend? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Topics for collection of wisdoms
Darren That SUCKS! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Topics for collection of wisdoms On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:17:22 -0600, you wrote: or sub-groups of stony meteorites. I'm curious to know too... Most articles I have read on Martian and Lunar pieces say they are not attracted to a magnet. Is this known to be without exception? This seems to fit here: http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11406-magnetic-elephant-trunk-sucks-up-lunar-soil.html?DCMP=Matt_Sparkesnsref=trunk Magnetic 'elephant trunk' sucks up lunar soil 21:57 16 March 2007 NewScientist.com news service David Shiga, Houston Elephants' trunks are remarkable tools. Boasting more muscles than the human body, the appendages can knock down trees and suck in several gallons of water, spraying it into their owners' mouths or over their vast bodies. Now, researchers say elephant trunk-like devices may be useful on the Moon, as well. And they have developed a prototype of a magnetic, trunk-like tube that can collect lunar soil without kicking up hazardous dust. Future astronauts living on the Moon will need lots of water, oxygen and other resources that can be extracted from the lunar soil, or regolith. But collecting the large quantities needed with front-end loaders and dump trucks could throw up a lot of dust. That could cause a host of problems, since the tiny, jagged dust particles could clog machinery and even harm astronauts' health if inhaled (see Martian dust may be hazardous to your health). In a bid to solve the problem, Benjamin Eimer and Lawrence Taylor, both of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, US, are developing a magnetic device designed to collect soil without creating clouds of the powdery dust. This idea is akin to a leaf sucker, Eimer told New Scientist. Magnetic coils The idea is to build a flexible tube with magnetic coils spaced at regular intervals along its length. Because lunar soil particles contain a lot of iron, the magnetic field produced by the coils would suck the soil into the tube and whisk it along its length. A relatively small tube would be used by an astronaut or robot to pick up soil and feed it into a larger magnetic 'pipeline' leading back to storage facilities or processing plants at the lunar base. Many of these flexible tubes could be attached to the same pipeline - like veins in a leaf, allowing soil to be collected from a large area. And because the magnetic field channels the soil into the centre of the tube and keeps it away from the tube's walls, it would prevent dust from escaping. You can move massive amounts of lunar regolith without kicking up all the dust, Eimer says. Early tests suggest the plan will work. He and Taylor have built a small prototype a few centimetres long that successfully picks up simulated lunar soil. Daniel Durda of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, US, says developing ways to keep dust to a minimum is important. It's a real concern, he told New Scientist. Something like this is probably better than a bunch of bulldozers picking it up and dumping it. Temperature swings The research was presented on Thursday at the Lunar and Planetary Society Conference in Houston, Texas. Another study presented on Thursday suggests burying lunar habitats could help regulate their temperature. On the airless Moon, the surface bakes to over 100º Celsius during the day and plunges to a frigid -150º C at night. But these wild temperature swings could be eliminated by burying a lunar habitat with bags of lunar soil, according to a study led by Bela Boldoghy of Ferroelektric Engineering Pan Konceptum in Budapest, Hungary. Under 10 to 15 metres of lunar soil, the temperature would hover without further intervention around -20º C. Although that is bitterly cold, the stable temperature would make it much easier to regulate the base's thermostat. Pre-bagged soil Minus 20 is not too difficult, study co-author Tamas Varga of the VTPatent Agency in Budapest told New Scientist. A lot of places on Earth are -20 degrees. Burying the habitat with pre-bagged soil instead of simply dumping loose soil on top of it would also avoid kicking up dust, the researchers say, adding that the messy job of bagging the soil could be done far away from the base. Durda says seesawing temperatures would not be a problem if the base was built near the Moon's poles, where there are places permanently in shadow. But in other regions it would be an issue, he says, and burying the habitat is one way to deal with the temperature swings. Regolith can also block hazardous energetic particles from space, he adds, so burying would have that added benefit of radiation protection. __ Meteorite-list mailing list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield meteorites 1971 1982
Two meteorites fell in the town of Wethersfield Connecticut, each striking a house, in the space of 11 years. The first in 1971 the second in 1982, an event [events] against all astronomical odds. I understand that one of the Wethersfield meteorites is in the Smithsonian and The other, in the Connecticut Peabody Museum. Did Any of either become available to collectors? These have to be priceless! Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield
In regard to the 1982 fall, to quote from Grady's Catalogue of Meteorites: a mass of 2704g and about 52g of fragments were recovered after they had penatrated the roof of a house 52g of fragments? Are any in circulation?? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The red skein of aggressiveness
WISDOM Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteoritelist Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The red skein of aggressiveness Those who stay silent while being called names are cowards. Often it is better to stay at the level of civility one is wanting others to expect from oneself than to lower oneself to the base and crude levels which I have seen some on this list lower themselves to. And if that means being silent, because one cannot respond without the crude use of explicatives and threats on the list, then let the crude and base think you a coward while those who know you will think much better of you and even sometimes come to your aid in a manner befitting the levels of education represented on this list. Mark Ferguson __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] wethersfield ct meteorites
Hello List, Are both of the wethersfield meteorites 'out of circulation' ie. in the Ct. Peabody Museum? None for sale right? Great hammers! Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] pronunciation of Gao?
Is it pronounced with a 'soft' G [j] or hard [as in gun]? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?
My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennet. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site
Do not pass go. Enter immediately into Favorites. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site Dear list members, Thought I would break in and share with you my new SA web site: http://www.sikhote-alin.org/ Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Pallasites/Rocks FromSpacePicture of the Da...
[Wood!?!!??? would if it could] Not mahogany[and ecky pressure treated] Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Pallasites/Rocks FromSpacePicture of the Da... In a message dated 3/9/2007 6:26:48 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can we judge the long-term stability of Seymchan, if it's available not longer than 2-3 years? (When the Russian Hunter Tzars brought it first to market? Denver 2005 or 2004?). Imilac is as stable as wood. I love it! Martin --- Let's not forget Marjalahti! Very stable too. (Wood?!?! Wood does rot. Martin) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)
From them? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] (no subject) I wonder if he has piles of them? Message: 11 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:10:45 -0800 (PST) From: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I didn't hink of Uranus until mentioned here, which is unusual. Mind you, i didn't get the joke until I was 17 and I remember the stick I got as a result. I was thinking of phrases like I hope it doesn't end up getting SHATtered This is a new definition for RE-ENTRY and kak-handed approach to meteorite study etc I've got 6 more but they get more obscure.. Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go....
Not mine Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:41:56 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) The first meteorite from Uranus. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers
Where's Kilabo and what are the roofs made of? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hmmers On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:03:03 -0800, you wrote: Greetings all, I have come across many falls (such as Kilabo) where a fall is reported to occur throughout a villiage, with many stones recovered, yet none are reported to hit a hut, shed, house, or the like. (In the instance of Kilabo, it is reported to have fallen in 5 different villages). There MUST be a hammer or two whenever there are dozens of recoveries in a village. For instance, I have nine different hammers from Park Forest. Does anyone know how it can be that entire villages are pelted and not one hammer is included in the report? Maybe the people in the villages don't go climbing around on their rooves? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 600 gr chjondrite unclassified NWA
I just recieved a really nice unclassified NWA from Morocco by responding to an ad to the List from Mohamed Ait Ouzrou. I hope to send a picture of it to Michael Johnson For SpaceRocksInc Picture of the day. Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
Knowing Anne and NOT knowing Tom, I'd have to side with Anne. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom In a message dated 3/4/2007 2:48:33 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I just received this from Proud Tom who declined the revelation of his True Identity: If there's enough interest, I'm ready to put together more zany Proud Tom adventures to share with others. I know the emails I have gotten OFF LIST run at least 20 to one stating they ENJOY the humor of Proud Tom. Furthermore, since he tends to set up a web page for people to visit, I suggest those NOT enamored of his brand of humor simply not click to the URL. In any event, it would seem that if numerous people state they would enjoy seeing another round of Proud Tom he will be setting up a web page. If no one expresses interest, sounds like he won't. Let me be the first to STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COURAGEOUS METEORITE CRUSADER in putting up a web page for all to enjoy state that those not interested are encouraged not to visit it. How about others??? RSVP Best wishes, Michael - I am sorry Michael, but I'll have to disagree with you. Proud Tom is sleazy, insulting, and no longer funny. I don't believe any member of the Meteorite will feel any pride at being represented, or even associated to such a character, even fictional. I would urge you to bury Proud Tom permanently. And I can't possibly be the only one to feel insulted by that association. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] batch emails
Another thanks, Art. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] batch emails In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:27:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good evening Art, Thanks for the update. Also, while it isn't said often enough, your efforts in keeping this great list operating smoothly are GREATLY appreciated. Thank you! Best Regards, Paul Martyn -- I second the motion! Art is a very under-appreciated person. The Meteorite World simply wouldn't be the same without his efforts. I am sorry you didn't make it to Tucson this year. Anne M. Black _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) -- In a message dated 3/3/2007 6:08:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you make sure your emails don't contain any html then they will post automatically but it seems recently that the number of held emails is increasing dramatically so I think that many of the new webmail clients insert html even when plain text is selected (I'm investigating this). Regards, Art The Meteorite mailing List ** BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth
Gee, now that you mention it??! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth That looks just like Mike Farmer's face! :] Cheers, Pete From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Face on Mars - Face on Earth Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:14 -0800 (PST) I'm sure some of you remember when Viking captured an image of what was believed to be an apparent face carved in a natural formation and the resulting speculation as to whether it might be artifical. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm We now have our own face, clearly visable from space. Our image has been named Rostro de Dios or face of God. http://wikimapia.org/#y=-16352427x=-71948090z=12l=0m=av=2 It can also be viewed using Google Earth. Randall - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??
Thanks to all who asked and contributed to this very interesting question, Barb for asking Tom for answering. Jeff, thanks especially for the information and link. Elton thank you also for contributing. All helped to put this into perspective. An extrodinary phenomenon, what? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce?? At 05:49 PM 2/28/2007, Mr EMan wrote: In the for what its worth category, the degree of fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,( e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.) I don't know what wavelength is the standard for that examination. If you've the fluorscent microscope and knowing those standards you might be able to observe this in common chondrite thin sections but I think it would be in some form we wouldn't easily recognize. A coverslip would of course block UV, but uncovered slides attract lint which glows brightly. Actually, the property that is used to determine the petrologic types of chondrites is thermoluminescence (TL), not fluorescence. TL is the emission of light in response to heating a sample, and it is a very small effect. The fluorescence you are talking about is the emission of light after absorption of light of a different wavelength (often UV). In point of fact, many meteorites do show a spectacular variety of luminescence, namely cathodoluminescence (CL). This is emission of light in response to bombardment with an electron beam, as in CRTs. Type 3 ordinary chondrites are particularly beautiful, with different minerals glowing red, blue, and yellow. Check out the work of Derek Sears at: http://www.uark.edu/depts/cosmo/research%20projects/CL%20mosaics/ There are small, portable instruments that can be used to look at CL, but probably they won't be found outside of labs. jeff Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick
Excuse my ignorance, but we're scheduled to visit Meteor Crater this summer. Is the original building still standing? Is one permitted to take anything? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger Glass and Brick A few months ago I aquired a brick from the Nininger Museum. Today a very nice shard of glass from that historic building arrived in my mailbox, courtesy of Jan Bartels. All dirty with Arizona desert still... http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nininger-museum.html Thanks Jan! Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks Blaine for my Chinga
Thanks to Blaine Reed for once more providing exceptional specimens at reasonable prices. A joy to do business with. A thing of beauty this 100.8g highly polished CHINGA. Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] more on Info needed
The meteor, which was glowing hot, What think yee now? Was the Times then, as earnest in their persuit of the truth of what they printed? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Shallit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] more on Info needed Ask and ye shall receive: Little thing like a meteor fails to discourage bride New York Times December 8 1929 p. E1 Special correspondence of the New York Times Belgrade, Nov. 20. - The heavens blessed a bride in unwonted and unwelcome form in the village of Zvezvan today. As the wedding party was nearing the church a meteor fell into one of the carriages immediately in front of that in which the bride was seated. One of the wedding guests, a man, was killed, the woman sitting opposite him was badly injured and the bride fainted. The crowd scattered in panic, but after a brief delay the marriage was duly solemnized. The meteor, which was glowing hot, measured forty centimeters in diameter. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday, February 24, 2007
I, for one NEVER tire of these SA photos. One more facinating the the previous. So dramatic an event in our own time, recorded magnificently and represented with such seductive vividness. And of course its abundance and durability makes it a collector's dream. All Hail Sikhote-Alin and its many owners for sharing and of course, Mike for reliably providing a venue we all look forward to each day. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday,February 24, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_24.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
Michael, forgive me if this has been asked and answered but has there been any corroboration of the relatively recent report of NOMADS being struck and killed. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed In my never ending quest of hammers and information re same, I have come across this puppy a couple of times: Dec. 8, 1929 YugoslaviaMeteor hits bridal party, killed 1 Note that no name is provided for this fall. It is, of course, not on the Walter Branch Hits page. Any info anyone can provide me will be appreciated. Thanks, Michael -- You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses. - Ziggy - in a comic strip by Tom Wilson -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007
Also known a fly now, duck later Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22,2007 Hi Pete, It's a very interesting piece with quite a unique 'crater'. It appears that it may have been a double impact or possibly the result of a jagged shrapnel fragment impacting the individual. Anyone on the list a ballistic expert? ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: Pete Pete To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22,2007 Very cool! Is this a double impact? It looks like another rim within the larger crater. Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:14:12 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_22.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find out the restaurants participating in Winterlicious http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=43.658648~-79.383962style=rlvl=1 5tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=3702663cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nitol
or the ol is the read end of alcohol maybe because it's at the end of Nitol Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: D To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nitol Been reading some posts regarding etching I believe the term from the science of metallography is Nital...NOT Nitol. The al is the first part of alcohol, just as the Nit is the first part of Nitric. This incorrect terminology has been perpetuated for some time now. F. -- Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers. -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Finally 1st Chladni MARS Case - get the veryfirst box crafted. Soon a historical collectible!
Super marketing ploy, Martin, Super salesmanship! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Finally 1st Chladni MARS Case - get the veryfirst box crafted. Soon a historical collectible! Good day list! Amazing news. While Chladni's Moon cases began their triumphant success around the globe, and the house was brought down, when we introduced them in Tucson, a lot of collectors and retailers expressed their badly needs to get this high quality presentation for Martian material. Here you are: We started to issue now series of Chladni Cases with the classical shergottite Dag 735. This ebay-auction now is somewhat special: You'll obtain nothing else than the very first example of our Martian Cases and all Mars series, which will be produced in future. It is the Chladni Mars Case N°1 - and you'll receive a certificate, that this case is the ancestral case of all which will have followed, hence a collectible for its own. Find it here: http://kuerzer.de/1stMarscase (Item number: 230095652582) Shipping is 3$. Good luck! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] real men meteorites
That's me in the back with the cap on. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:31 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] real men meteorites http://www.goldprospectors.org/magazine/archive_images/meteorite.jpg :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 20, 2007
Ah, the glories a closer study can provide. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 20, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_20.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
