[meteorite-list] NWA 6291 Angrite - AD Update
Hi to all. Hope everyone is doing good this morning. Exciting new offers are abundant! Since the met list was laggy when I placed my last ad and to help fund exciting new material, I am extending a ONE DAY ONLY offer. Select samples of the awesome King of Angrites for less than $150 per gram. Or you can have the second largest mass of the stone weighing in at 25.9 grams for only $130 per gram. Available pieces can be viewed on my website by clicking the link below: http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/NWA_6291.php The 8.4 gram, 8.45 gram, and 43 gram main mass are no longer available as of today. Translucent slices not included. Sorry for a second ad, but since this is one heck of a deal and my first ad was held up with lag, I'm sure you won't mind. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 6291 Angrite Ebay listings ending today - updates
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. I have 2 samples of the King of angrites, NWA 6291 listed on ebay that started out at only .99 ending in about 10 hours. Both still at under $2.00 each but with a very nice amount of watchers. There is not very much of NWA 6291 left, most have been placed into institutions and are off the collectors market, likely for good. The main mass will likely also be placed into an institution collection this week. If you want a nice slice of this, this time to get it is now, I doubt I will have any left by this time next month. Feel free to make reasonable offers on what is left. (as of now, only 6 slices are left, the rest is smaller sub gram material) You can find my ebay listings here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 You can find what is left of the NWA 6291 slices not listed on ebay here: http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/NWA_6291.php Note - the two 8.4 gram slices are on hold currently, but if anyone is interested, I will put your name down for one if it should become available. Dont miss your chance to own a piece of this incredible meteorite that yielded the only translucent anorthite slices of angrite on Earth!!! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite2.jpg Thanks for looking, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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TEST http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/36gb.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ISO small samples for my daughters collection.
Hi to everyone. Been a laggy day for the list it seems. I am looking for a few small meteorites for my daughters type collection. She has reached the point where she wants to upgrade. They need to be able to fit into the small 1 gem jars. I need: Pallasite - any small pallasite part slice Etched Iron - any small etched Iron part slice Diogenite - any small sample (.5 - 1g would be fine) Allende - any small sample (.5 - 1g would be fine) Any small .5-1.0g part slices of neat meteorites with chondrules or inclusions. Not much cash at the moment, so trades only. I am working on filling two of the 50 gem jar trays for her to hang in her room, Im sure my son will be next - he likes to follow in his bigger sisters steps. So far, Shes got a nice collection going that includes - Lunar, Martian, Angrite, Howardite, Eucrite, Murchison, Karoonda, Chergach, Bassikounou, Carancas, Bensour, Ash Creek and many others. Will post pics once complete. Thanks, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Auctions Ending Today and Personal Notes To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 11:23 PM Unfortunately this list had a bit of a jam today and from what I can tell almost no posts went out for many hours. This announcement is indeed sad news Adam. As I look over my collection I find a significant percentage of specimens came from the Hupe Collection. All but one of my Martians came from you, most of my HEDs and several primitive achondrites. I've always valued the fact that you offer so many rarities at a starting price of only $0.99. I have gotten some spectacular specimens at similarly spectacular prices through these auctions. I have made it no secret on this list my opinion about values and pricing and my enthusiasm for allowing the market to dictate them, but I've always been wary of the negative aspect of this too; Prices realized being too low for dealers to make the effort worth their time. Unfortunately from your announcement, this seems to be exactly what is happening. In closing I guess I will just wish you well on any and all future sales, and thank you again for allowing me to add so many truly rare and exciting meteorites to my collection. Your hard work, efforts and generosity to collectors as well as this field of research does not go unappreciated. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Auctions Ending Today and Personal Notes To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 9:00 AM Dear List Members, Please take a look at the auctions I have ending this afternoon if you want to secure rare and valuable pieces for your collection. I never run reserves and start most items out at just 99 cents incurring risks that are great. In most cases, this material has been selling seriously below my costs this summer. I run these auctions for three reasons. 1.) To recover a portion of the enormous investment I have into this avocation. 2.) To share my enthusiasm for these rare specimens with others 3.) I believe that the public has the right to share in these rarities These auctions have been taking up a lot of time and making it difficult for me to get in as much field time as I like. Once I reach my arbitrary goal of 20,000 specimens sold this fall, I will reevaluate my situation, probably step down and enjoy other aspects of this great hobby. I will then solicit the rest on my non-personal inventory for sale all at once or donation depending on an accountant's input. I will keep you informed. In the meantime, enjoy the many bargains that will be available over the next few months. All Auctions Can Be Found At This link: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/raremeteorites!_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ Some Planetary Highlights: Very nice .118 gram part slice of Martian meteorite DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140433733033 Great .174 gram thinly cut part slice of Martian meteorite DAG 735: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140433733826 Awesome .132 gram thinly cut part slice of Martian meteorite Dhofar 019: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140433736303 Gorgeous .140 gram part slice of Lunar meteorite Dhofar908: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200502890765 Gorgeous .140 gram part slice of Lunar meteorite
[meteorite-list] NWA 6291 Angrite sale update / Ebay listings - AD
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well today! I still have some of the awesome King of Angrites available for sale. Here is the very last of smaller samples available: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5273.jpg You can see the slices on my website: http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/NWA_6291.php There is a limited amount of thin sections available, all are very nice sized, email for photos. There are two 2g fragment and part slice lots and one 1g lot, these would be great for testing or resale. Discounts available for study/research on the angrite. I also have some listed on ebay as well as other nice meteorites. There is a 10% off sale running until the 5th of August. Some of what is available: Premium Carancas meteorites recovered by Bob Haag NWA 5511 Howardite NWA 4734 Lunar NWA 4857 Martian Bilanga (diogenite) Karoonda (CK4) with museum provenance and a copy of the museum label NWA Eucrite (in the process of being submitted for NWA number) NWA 5838, Premium unclassified NWAs with awesome fusion crust, Campos, thin sections and more... Thanks for looking, feel free to make offers on material for off ebay sales. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - .99 ebay listings ending in under 5 hours
Hi to all, I have several ebay auctions starting at .99 that end in less then 5 hours. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Hope everyone is good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale -...
I posted this yesterday, but it didnt show up... I am not disputing other crystals in angrites, my comments were to the translucent slices like mine has. While many chimed in and claimed to have seen such, still, nobody has shown pictures of an angrite with back lit translucent crystals (like in a pallasite) that are 1cm x 1cm in size. I find it interesting how fast some people seem to want to discredit my new Angrite. This is a really awesome meteorite! Had it been someone like the Hupes, or Farmer that announced this, I really dont think that would have happened. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 7/21/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale -... To: meteorite...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 9:09 PM Jason, Will this one do? _http://www.impactika.com/DOrbVug.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/DOrbVug.jpg) Taken in Sept. 2001 in Denver, in Eduardo's show room. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 7/21/2010 6:44:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time, meteorite...@gmail.com writes: Hello Greg, All, Sheesh...you might read that paragraph again. The Hupe's don't sell martian material with the statement may contain traces of martian life. At least they didn't the last time I checked And, yes, D'Orbigny contains cm-sized crystals of translucent, gemmy, pallasite-like olivine. They compose about 1% of the meteorite, by volume. I've seen some in some hand-sized specimens that E.T. had for sale a few years ago, but can't find any great photos online. Apparently Asu88 contains upwards of 10% similar crystals by volume (see article linked-to above), but I couldn't find any pictures of that one. The interesting thing about your Angrite is the fact that the translucent crystal is anorthosite. So far as I know, it's the first time that a translucent *anorthosite* crystal has been found in an Angrite. Best, Jason __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fight Over Meteorite Crashes Into Court
My opinion, by busting through the roof, it did more then imbed itself into the the building. It put a hole in it. Case closed. Who paid for the damage that was caused? the land owner or doctors? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 7/21/10, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fight Over Meteorite Crashes Into Court To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 3:43 PM List: I'm curious how this will turn out; may set a precedent. For the owner of the land to own the meteorite, it has to imbed itself into the land or building... H We'll see... http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/07/21/29000.htm Fight Over Meteorite Crashes Into Court By RYAN ABBOTT FAIRFAX, Va. (CN) - A family medical practice has sued its landlord to determine who owns the palm-sized meteorite that crashed through the building's roof into an examination room. The doctors say the meteorite is in safekeeping at the Smithsonian Institutions, which offered $5,000 for the space rock, which the doctors want to donate for relief work in Haiti. Williamsburg Square Family Practice sued its landlord, Mutlu Property Management and several members of the Mutlu family, in Fairfax County Court. The doctors claim that the Mutlus swooped in and claimed ownership of the meteorite after the incident garnered local publicity. The doctors say they lease the office suite from the Mutlu family and are in exclusive possession of that property during [their] lease term. The meteorite did not imbed itself in the land or building, and thus did not become a part of the land or fixture, the doctors point out. The meteorite crashed into an examination in the doctors' suite at 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 18 this year. No one was in the room when the meteorite broke through the ceiling and came to rest in pieces on the floor, and nobody was hurt. The doctors say that Erol Mutlu initially agreed to donate the rock to the Smithsonian for preservation and study. Then the Mutlus changed their mind, said they intended to pick up the meteorite, and objected to its being handed over to the Smithsonian, according to the complaint. The doctors office says that if the court declares it the owner of the historical artifact, it will stay with the Smithsonian, and the money will go to the Haitian relief effort of Doctors Without Borders. The Practice seeks declaratory judgment. It is represented by Keith Marino with Arent Fox. _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite2.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD
Hi to all, I am happy to announce that NWA 6291 is an awesome and very rare angrite. I have several very nice slices for sale including one of the 4 translucent slices. After extensive research, I have not been able to come across any angrite that has offered translucent crystals and slices like you would find in a pallasite other then this one. This is likely paired with NWA 2999, but due to its unique appearance, it stands above and beyond 2999 and any of its pairings enough to raise the question of if it was actually paired or not. NWA 2999 and its pairings are also unique to the angrite class, which makes this one even more special! Then there is the possible Mercury connection... how cool is it that this material is thought to be ejecta from the planet Mercury? You can see some of the material available for sale here: http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/Angrite_Meteorites.php I also have a very limited amount of thin sections that are very generous is size. Rather then offer a small limited sample for section, I choose to get nice portions that showed the incredible nature of this material at its best. Samples for sale are from micros up to the 44 gram main mass. Contact me for price and more photos - I am still offering a discount for research use. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD
I agree that the Mercury connection is up in the air at this point, but its a neat idea of the parent body. As for the Translucent crystals, I am talking about being able to show something like this: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite657gt2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite657gt1.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/36gd.jpg and 1cm crystals like this http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite2.jpg Understand, I am not putting down any other angrite, I just think that this one is a really unique type from a unique class that offers a bit more then others that I have seen. This is something that many have told me. And the price... its LESS then the WI fall was selling for! how can you argue with that? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 7/21/10, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 8:13 PM Hello Greg, All, I managed to turn up these pages: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_DORBIGNY.HTM http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/nwa-2934-angrite-meteorite-possible-nwa-2999-3164-1 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2001/pdf/1876.pdf So, NWA 2836, 2999, 3164 (all three supposedly paired), D'Orbigny, and Asu88 all display similar translucent crystals. Angrites are some of the rarest material on earth - that should stand alone. Trying to put one in some way above the others doesn't make much sense to me. Without getting into this too deeply - researchers have been trying to find a meteorite from another one of the terrestrial planets (other than Mars) for decades. Trying to cram a square peg into a round hole ain't the way to do it. http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1995Metic..30..269L http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1995LPI26..865L http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20070021589_2007019150.pdf In my opinion, it's a little much to claim that a meteorite came from a single parent body based only three main points: 1) Both are depleted in sodium and are highly refractive (so were other parent bodies that formed in the region). 2) There's an observed feature (corona around a plagioclase crystal) that may have been formed by tectonic action on its parent body...or some other form of decompression or change in conditions while crystallization was taking place... 3) And, yeah, they're from a differentiated body. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1344.pdf To be frank, the arguments *against* the origins of Angrites being Mercury are significantly better. 1) They cooled too soon for them to be form Mercury. 2) They have too much iron. 3) The scarping on Mercury isn't present in large enough examples to explain the features observed in Angrites. The things that rule a Mercutian origin out for Angrites are much more basic, sweeping sort of problems. Their general composition and crystallization ages are *wrong,* based on our understanding of how things formed in the early solar system and the composition of Mercury's crust (this is big-picture stuff). And compare that to the fact that we have two chemical/petrographic features that suggest that they're from Mercury; the whole differentiated body thing seems kind of overblown at this point. We now know of *many* ungrouped achondrites that appear to have come from large differentiated bodies. Very circumstantial evidence. In my opinion, it's like selling pieces of martian meteorites under the banner of remains of life may have been found in ALH 84001, so this meteorite I'm selling you may contain traces of martian life. I mean, I guess you could claim that...and yet, reputable dealers don't I have the feeling that this whole 'Angrites are from Mercury' problem is getting overlooked a bit because there's no media frenzy of 'LIFE' surrounding it. Either way, the critical literature seems to carry *significantly* more weight, from a relatively objective observer's point of view. I've heard similar comments from various well-regarded researchers. Check your May 2008 Meteorite magazines. Melinda Hutson notes that Four of the eight arguments given in the original abstract on NWA 2999 actually argue against Mercury as the Angrite parent body. In fact, she goes on to repudiate every single point, relegating them to, at best, circumstantial evidence. In my opinion, dealers need to stop pushing Angrites as being from Mercury. They're rare enough to warrant being paid whatever for them anyways - compare them to NWA 011
[meteorite-list] Very neat crystal formations in Angrite slice
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. Check out this Angrite slice, look close at the melted looking crystal in the upper center of the photo and also the crystal formation on the right. Very cool stuff... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite_2-1.jpg (Slice not for sale, on deposit at Appalachian State University) Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Free Angrite samples for educational use/study
Hi to all. I hope everyone is doing good today. I know many places would like to be able to study rare material such as angrites, but cost and budgets simply do not allow for it. I would like to offer some small cutting fragments (pure angrite material)to a few places that could use it for research. The material is small fragments, but would be great for XRD and similar testing. I will cover postage and supply a small amount to 3 institutions that can use it on the condition that the findings of the testing be shared with the community. Also, if anyone is willing to do cosmic exposure testing, I will supply a sample for that. Please, no collectors. This is an offer to share material for study/research only. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome NWA angrite for sale
Hi to all. Out of need to raise some cash, I am going to offer some of the NWA angrite for sale prior to it getting the NWA number. I am hoping to have it this week and all buyers will get updated when the number is given. There was only 235g prior to cutting and deposit. Samples available are from .10g up to the 44g main mass. I am offering nice educational and research discounts. Once I get the NWA number, this price will go up, so now is the time to buy if you really want a good deal!!! Here are a few pics of a couple slices... (others are available) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/249gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite975ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite732gt2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite329g2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5015-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/845gb-1.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/36gd.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/735g.jpg 1 gram and under samples http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angritesmallsamples-1.jpg Email me for more pics/info. Also, I have some really nice material on ebay, with many on sale. http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Thanks for looking, hope everyone is doing good!!! feel free to email with any questions. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Awesome NWA angrite for sale - update
Better pics and weights on several slices can be found here: http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/Angrite_Meteorites.php Sorry, forgot to add this to the original post. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 7/14/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Awesome NWA angrite for sale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 7:00 PM Hi to all. Out of need to raise some cash, I am going to offer some of the NWA angrite for sale prior to it getting the NWA number. I am hoping to have it this week and all buyers will get updated when the number is given. There was only 235g prior to cutting and deposit. Samples available are from .10g up to the 44g main mass. I am offering nice educational and research discounts. Once I get the NWA number, this price will go up, so now is the time to buy if you really want a good deal!!! Here are a few pics of a couple slices... (others are available) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/249gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite975ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite732gt2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite329g2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5015-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/845gb-1.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/36gd.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/735g.jpg 1 gram and under samples http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angritesmallsamples-1.jpg Email me for more pics/info. Also, I have some really nice material on ebay, with many on sale. http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Thanks for looking, hope everyone is doing good!!! feel free to email with any questions. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?
Wow, thats quite a bit of material! anyone have a small 5-10g sample they would be interested in trading? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!? To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:48 PM Hi List, The new Egyptian iron is now official and in the Met Bulletin database. Notice the TKW! 1.6 metric tons! That is a lot of fragments. Also notice the classification type - iron ungrouped. Not ataxite. Although the write-up does say the meteorite shows an ataxitic structure. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=52031 Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome meteorite sale!
Hi to all, hope everyone is having a good 4th of July. Before I head out for the night, I have greatly reduced many ebay listings for a few days. There are some awesome deals to be had and some very rare samples. Check by website and ebay listings, feel free to make offers for off ebay sales. See links below. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TEST - ignore
Posts are not working today... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite975ga.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Angrite slice pics
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. We finished cutting the Angrite yesterday. Had several really nice slices come from it, but only one more translucent slice (this time, instead of Anorthite, it was Spinel) The main mass ended up being an incredible 44g. Those that want to see the slices that came from the King of Angrites can view them on my webpage I set up for it http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/Angrite_Meteorites.php As you will see from the pictures, its something special. I should have the NWA number this week for it. Will update the webpage as I get info. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July
The WI fall was a strange one. I think too many people were trying to get rich of others. Before anyone comes at me with the numbers of the trip, I know and I understand, but at the same time, it can be done for much less. When I see reports of the landowners selling the stones for less then $10 per gram (I know of several who would not pay more the $3 per gram!)and then see them selling it for $100/g or more, thats just too much... Why do you think the 2 kg stone was hushed up so much? I have seen pics of it, so have many others and yet nobody wants to act like it exists and people still call a 330g stone the main mass when in reality, its far from the main mass. I dont like the trend with new falls and the prices that go with them, its taking advantage of collectors. Thats the whole reason I sold my WI material at $60 or less when others were still getting $100 or more... and I got many mean emails filled with profanity over putting that price public... Why? They knew they it would hurt the value. I did not sell it for that to do that, I did it because its not worth any more then that, and anyone who says it is, I ask again, why? There is likely 10kg or more of the fall, its not rare by any means. Sure there is a price to pay for those that cant make it to the fall site, but when is it too much? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July To: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 PM In the end, I think this is all being overanalyzed to death. There is no magic formula for determining what the price is going to do. Did the price go down on Puerto Lapice, or Villalbeto de la Peña, or Daule, or Leighlinbridge? I bet many wish they did not wait for prices to fall on those. Agreed here. There is only one certainty about the meteorite market - she is fickle mistress. ;) There some falls that will never come down in price, due to scarcity of available specimens. Cali is a good example I think. Whetstone will likely hold it's value well. Maybe a good discussion would be ATW - or available total weight. A fall may have a sizeable TKW, but if the majority of the material is locked away from the private market, then the price will reflect that. Best regards, MikeG On 7/1/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: MikeG wrote: The TKW is vastly different, but TKW should not be a factor in a fall being considered historical. I think you mean historic, but I said nothing about TKW meaning something was historic or that Buzzard was not significant. In the end, I think this is all being overanalyzed to death. There is no magic formula for determining what the price is going to do. Did the price go down on Puerto Lapice, or Villalbeto de la Peña, or Daule, or Leighlinbridge? I bet many wish they did not wait for prices to fall on those. Cheers! Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM To: Mike Bandli Cc: Shawn Alan; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July Hi Mike and List, No, I did not mean that first buyers are all inexperienced or impatient. Some are. Some are not. We all have different reasons for acquiring certain meteorites and the first on the block mentality appeals to many. If money was no concern for me, I would all sizeable specimens of every fall I mentioned. But I must be very careful with my funds - or my wife will kill me or the pantry will go empty. Whetstone Mountains - the first recovered Arizona fall in nearly 100 years. Probably the most documented recovery in history. Very little available to collectors. Fireball captured on video. Buzzard Coulee - first ever recovered fall in Saskatchewan. Fireball captured on video to great effect. The TKW is vastly different, but TKW should not be a factor in a fall being considered historical (IMO) - if so, every tiny Antarctic fragment would have historical significance despite not being witnessed. The prices for Buzzard are much lower than Whetstone and the only difference is TKW - not historical significance. Daule - the first and only Ecuadorian meteorite to ever be recovered
[meteorite-list] More Photos of the Strange NWA stones
http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=333start=0postdays=0postorder=aschighlight=mforum=wwwmeteoritesto I uploaded good and detailed photos of the strange NWA meteorites that arrived recently. I will be updating the testing progress on that thread for those that want to comment of follow along. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- 44 gram Wisconsin Meteorite - make offers
Hi to all, I have a 44g Wisconsin Meteorite end cut I am willing to accept offers on. you can see it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=390199150080ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Sorry for a second ad, gotta sell this thing. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Opinions of thesesamples please
Looking for thoughts on a few meteorites from Morocco. I am having thin sections made and may be in need of someone with a micro probe for more testing once SEM data is gathered. These photos do not show the full features, some are basalts without a doubt. Stone #1 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4855.jpg Stone #2 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4848.jpg Stone #3 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4839.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4848.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4841.jpg Stone #4 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4816.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4818.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4821.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4823.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4812.jpg Stone #5 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4827.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4829.jpg Thanks in advance, Looking forward to some of the replies. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dont skip looking at this! To: damoc...@yahoo.com, METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:49 PM Thanks for posting this one! Great fun. I got stuck for an hour looking over the whole thing. Amazing if you look around you will find a ton of rocks bigger than the one featured that have rolled very long distances. Real neat. Warren Sansoucie Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:46:19 -0700 From: damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dont skip looking at this! Personally I find the sorting of the debris at the bottom of the slope a much more interesting process than a boulder rolling down slope ending up in a ubiquitous crater. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Darren Garrison wrote: From: Darren Garrison Subject: [meteorite-list] Dont skip looking at this! To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 9:37 AM http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/24/lunar-boulder-hits-a-hole-in-one/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Check this meteorite out
Not a fresh fall, but this stone is awesome! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4716.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4718.jpg I am also wondering what your thoughts are on this one: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4750.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4757.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4746.jpg Hope everyone is doing well! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome meteorites for sale!
Hi to all, I have some really nice meteorites I just listed on ebay. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 I will be listing a nice amount of items and some .99 auctions again this weekend also. As always, I can do better prices off ebay to save fees. Whats available? An AWESOME 44g Wisconsin Meteorite - Make offers! Premium NWA stones Howardite NWA 5513 Possible Eucrite (pending classification) Karoonda Lunar NWA 4734 Martian NWA 4857 Carancas samples recovered by Bob Haag Juvinas NWA 5838 Thin sections Thin Section coffee cups Chondrites, achondrites, Irons and so much more!!! Thanks for looking, hope everyone is doing good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] School giveaways
I have been asked to post pics of the displays I offer to public schools in my area and to tell a little about them... Here is what it looks like: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4707.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4708.jpg Here is how I put it together: Case - Walmart sells these awesome 12 tray cases for only $2.00 each Labels - I use the avery 42895 labels, they fit very well Stones - Various Earth stones and a meteorite end cut. I like to use raw emeralds and rubies along with a few polished (tumbled) stones, assorted crystals, dinosaur bone fragments and pyrite. The cost out of pocket to put one together is under $5.00 per display and they go over very well with the schools, both teachers and students love them! Hope all is well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite legistration
Any such attempt would have to be worded very carefully and clearly to avoid any possible disputes that would arise and also have an established system in place to resolve such disputes. A comment such as a new law where any meteorite found becomes the exclusive property of the finder. scares me really bad. I own my land and would have major issues with someone finding a meteorite on my property and trying to keep it under such law as stated. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite legistration To: mlbl...@cox.net, m...@mhmeteorites.com, skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:36 PM I believe it is time to lobby congress for a new law where any meteorite found becomes the exclusive property of the finder. This law would reduce any litigation on meteorite finds end encourage hunting on public lands. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Chondrules?
I have seen chondrules. Many of the slices Steve offered had a good amount in them in the darker area of the stone. My 80g stone also had chondrules when it was cut. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 5/16/10, Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Chondrules? To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 2:34 PM I have seen a few chondrules, not very many, but some. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 12:58:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Chondrules? Hello All, Forwarding this for Bob King who can't post to the List. His posts just don't go to the List. Hi everyone, I've looked for chondrules in my own and in most of the photos I've seen of the Wisconsin fall but have seen next to none. This meteorite appear to consist almost exclusively of broken, metamorphosed fragments - a sort of shock breccia. This makes me think it will be classified as an H or L6. Has anyone spotted any chondrules in their slices? -- Bob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Chondrules
Seems like a good time to toss out that I have an AWESOME 44g endcut of the Wisconsin fall priced at less then $100 per gram listed on ebay that is from the more rare mainly darker area the the more widely offered bold breccia. I am open to reasonable offers for sale off ebay to save fees. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390196107562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 5/16/10, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Chondrules To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 3:20 PM Greg C. wrote: Many of the slices Steve offered had a good amount [of chondrules] in them in the darker area of the stone. Hi Greg and List, This does make sense and we've seen that before. Two examples: 1. Zag (H3-6) 2. Tamdakht (H5) The darker, less metamorphosed areas show abundant, often well-defined chondrules. That's why I purchased some of Marcin's Tamdakht fragments even though I already had 4 pieces but in these the chondrule-poor, lighter-colored areas prevailed. Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes
I am pretty certain the issue is being caused now by my scale cube... See pictures below, one is with a blue cube, one is without. No other editing or anything has been done. Only change is removing the scale cube... guess I am now in the market for a new cube that wont do this. .92g Karoonda with cube http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g2.jpg .92g Karoonda without the cube http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g.jpg Thanks for all the input from everyone. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay listings (including WI samples)
Hi to all I have some very nice meteorites for sale on ebay currently. As always, I offer 10% off the listed price if you buy it off ebay. Prices are very good! Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a great weekend. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite giveaway
To supply a local school in each of our areas would be just as nice to do and also provide a little something to our communities. Walmart offers plastic 12 section trays for $2 (at my walmart) that work very well to display meteorites. The 12 sections offers plenty of room to provide a nice selection of meteorite types and cuts. For less then $20 out of pocket, you can make one of these up and give it to your local school. They will LOVE it. I made one for my daughters school and also one with Earth rocks. I will post pics of the trays I give to schools if anyone wants to see to recreate it. Hope everyone is doing good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite giveaway To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:42 PM Does the Iowa Grant high school have a WI meteorite display there? I think with some participation from collectors, hunters, and scientists we could put together something very nice for the school. Or has this already been done? Regards, Eric On 5/13/2010 6:04 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Hi Steve, Sounds like your 329.5g NWA would be a perfect candidate to donate to one of the local schools in Wisconsin (as the Count suggested earlier today). The Iowa-Grant School where young, Jackson, stole the show with his meteorite discovery in the school yard during the media interview with Terry and Mike would be a good first consideration. Turn a negative transaction into one you and others can truly appreciate! Just my thoughts... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite giveaway Greetings List, I have a 329.5 gram unclassified NWA endcut that I'd like to dispose of. I purchased this piece from a certain Chicago (Elgin) resident who shall remain nameless. Every time I look at it I want to kick myself for ever doing business with this individual. It was decribed by him as having rippling black fusion crust on the back. On the basis of this description I purchase it. What I got is a sandblasted weathered OC that I spent way too much money on. I will send it to any individual on the list for the price of postage. I'd prefer to send it USPS Priority to the U.S. $5.50? and if it's going overseas I'll quote you a shipping price. First response gets it. thanks, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2872 - Release Date: 05/13/10 14:26:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - .99 ebay listings ending today
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have some nice meteorites listed on ebay and several .99 auctions that end today. Between 5-12 hours are left on them. Some good deals are available and as always, if you see something you like, I will take 10% off the listed price if you buy it off of ebay to save fees. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Also, I have a 44g end cut of the WI fall, I am open to offers on it. Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?
Its my guess this will be H4-6 breccia. I hope to have some nice information to offer to the list. I am providing a sample to Appalachian State to be able to study and I am get very nice documentation of the results. Once I get the report, I will make it public also. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 5/9/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 7:33 PM It is a beautiful breccia, but we're still curious as to class. L6 is very different than H5, and this meteorite sticks to a magnet like an H. There are people who are eager to see if they guess right. The fact that this meteorite is so gorgeously brecciated is wonderfully more exciting than an ordinary chondrite if you get my meaning. Regards, Eric On 5/9/2010 3:21 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: Is there really much to be anxious about? I mean we've all known since the first images that it's some kind of equilibrated ordinary chondrite. How good could the classification be? Whether it's an L6, H5, H6, or L5 (the four most probable groups in decreasing order, with N falls = 259, 165, 90, and 75, respectively) or whatever, the great thing about this meteorite is that it is a beautiful breccia. Jeff On 2010-05-09 6:03 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: Thanks Jeff... There are many people anxiously awaiting word on a class. Thought I'd ask. Regards, Eric On 5/9/2010 3:00 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: They're not my data to announce, and I don't even remember exactly. Jeff On 2010-05-09 5:53 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: Hi Jeff, Do you know the type/classification yet, can you share? Regards, Eric On 5/9/2010 2:49 PM, Melanie Matthews wrote: But I know the classification has been done. Jeff __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT- color/camera issues
I am having issues with my camera wanting to turn light colors with a blue tint and also with the contrast. I have tried the normal setting I use and it does not seem to work. Very bothersome. example - this is not what it looks like. Its Greyish and white to natural light, but this is how it comes out photographed... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/345gb.jpg Any help or advise from anyone that knows about these things? I have a Fuji finepix Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina
I love that picture, nice to know what it came from! Thanks. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Fri, 5/7/10, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 6:35 PM Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the net..I have had this picture on my desktop for months. It was taken in Oklahoma at the Okie-Tex Star Party 9/30/2008 by Howard Edin. Who ever is claiming this picture has obviously cropped off the info from the bottom. See the original here...http://www.howardedin.com/ It is a shame people have to start hoaxes like this. On 5/6/2010 12:04 PM, drtanuki wrote: Dear List, Hot off of the wire: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/05/argentina-large-fireball-6may2010-just.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite slice pictures
Cut some of the Wisconsin meteorite today. I think it will be H4-6 breccia. Here are some pics of a couple of the slices I thought some may like to see... This is an AWESOME meteorite! 2.3g CS http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4467.jpg 2.6g CS http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4484.jpg 3.5g EC http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/345gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/345ga.jpg 44.61g EC http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4461.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4463.jpg Hope everyone is good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-Scale Cubes made of tungsten Carbide (Ebay) To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 2:04 PM Folks, I am posting this on behalf of Rex Scates (rexsca...@sbcglobal.net), who is unable to post to the list for undetermined reasons: * I make Tungsten Carbide jewelry and after attempting to get scale cubes from other vendors I decided to have them made myself. (at lower prices than anyone by far) From now on I will be selling scale cubes on Ebay and Neweggmall. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110528619279 take care Rex Scates 8th grade science teacher. * Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with Kunya-Urgench
I have to agree with Michael 110% on this. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help with Kunya-Urgench To: hxmendoza hxmend...@yahoo.com, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 9:14 PM Hi Henry, Once a label is separated from a specimen and identification is No longer certain, a dealer should GIVE the specimen to a Child or beginning collector. If he is no longer certain of the identity Of a piece he sold, he should give you a full refund AND pay for shipping To return it (or negotiate a partial refund and you keep it if and only if you want it) Anything less would be unethical - I am not on the board of the IMCA which I am sure has a committee to address such circumstances, But I am confident that would be their response. Is the dealer a member of the IMCA? Do you want to keep the Piece (but receive compensation for it no being an Unidentified NWA Specimen?) Is the dealer open in his communication? All these are factors, but certainly you are due compensation. Best wishes, Michael PS: I can't tell you how many times I dropped VERY valuable small Frags on my caret and could not tell what piece I found and had to Abandon specimens worth $100 or more. Very frustrating, but a dealer Must be certain of identification. On 5/5/10 5:37 PM, hxmendoza hxmend...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay so here is my first help request. A couple of weeks ago at the spring Denver gem and mineral show, I bought a supposed NWA classified meteorite from a dealer (whom I will not name as yet). The weather was awful that entire weekend and he hadn't gotten everything out if his van because if it. So the label for that endpiece was misplaced. I went back all three days and he had not found it yet. So we swapped info and he said he would try to find the label for it well as of today no luck. So I'm starting to think that my classified NWA that I paid a little over $1.00 a gram for is inevitably just going to stat an UNWA that I therefore overpaid for. But I called him a little while ago and now he says he found one orphaned label that says Kunya-Urgench so he thinks it might be that but he's not sure. There are very few pics of Kunya slices on the internet. Of the polished faces I was able to find only one looked like mine, on the Met Bulletin. The rest seemed different. Those had alot of white or gray in the matrix, whereas mine has a predominantly orangish/ tan matrix with lots of dark brown flecks interspersed throughout. So I'm doubtful but can't quite rule it out because of the one little pictured slice that does look like mine. So, does anyone have any Kunya-Urgench, or have any experience with it that if I sent you pics of my endpiece you could help me rule out or in this murky ID? Oh and the outside crust looks like what you see on NWA's in color and texture. HELP!! On a good note. I did get a nice Crusted fragment of Trilby Wash from him. Larry Sloan was there and verified that one. Regards, Henry Mendoza Sent from my iPod __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite map
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/15/midwest.fireball/index.html Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AWESOME 80g WI meteorite photos
Here are pics of an awesome 80g meteorite from the WI fall. One of the best stones I have seen :) enjoy! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4397.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4393.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ISO - video from WI fall for school presentation on Fri needed.
I have been asked to speak at my daughters school on Friday about meteorites. With the public attention the WI fall has brought, they thought the students would enjoy it. I am looking for some good quality footage of the WI fireball to use on a TV to give the kids something to think about when they get to hold what they just saw on TV. I will be making a DVD of this, I have been working on it, but the video footage is only about PC quality. Anyone have anything better I can use? I can process any video file format. I need it for Friday and will need at least a day to do the editing and produce a final copy. Thanks in advance. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WI Meteorite pictures
Hi to all, here are some pictures of a 12g WI stone that was cut in half. To save emails, this is not for sale, its already found a great home. Just thought some may like to see some pictures of it. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4380.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4378.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4376.jpg Hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite TKW
I can also account for 92g of the fall at this time and more to be announced. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite pictures To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:23 PM Hi to all, here are some pictures of a 12g WI stone that was cut in half. To save emails, this is not for sale, its already found a great home. Just thought some may like to see some pictures of it. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4380.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4378.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4376.jpg Hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - .99 auctions ending today
HI to all, hop everyone is doing good. I have some .99 auctions on ebay that end in about 8 hours or less. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ISO - Iron meteorite slice 1/4x4 x16 needed
I need a slice 1/4x4 x16 or better of widmanstatten pattern for a customer of mine, does anyone have something that can fit this? I can do the etching myself. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 5/1/10, brian burrer brim...@gmail.com wrote: From: brian burrer brim...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this... To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 1:49 PM The piece in question looks a lot like a stem/fragment from a Carboniferous period plant. Cycadeoids from as late as the Cretaceous have similar looking stems. Just a thought... Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this...
Here is the story that came with it: I will tell you about the stone,late 35 years ago my brother worked as a mine buisness up north on the border of Thailand and Burmar in the forest,one day Kalieng hill tribe [Kalieng hill tribe are some small people lived on the border]came to my brother office in the forest and changed the stone with my brother shot gun and walked away,now my brother dead with cancer already,so I have the stone. when you see the analysis do you think what it was?Have you been to Bangkok. The owner is not willing to provide a sample to be testing or inspected first hand, that always worries me. Also, its almost like the classic x died and left me with billions and I want to give it to you if you send me x amount to help Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 5/1/10, brian burrer brim...@gmail.com wrote: From: brian burrer brim...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this... To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 1:49 PM The piece in question looks a lot like a stem/fragment from a Carboniferous period plant. Cycadeoids from as late as the Cretaceous have similar looking stems. Just a thought... Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hits 3 homes.
What a crock. Story has so many holes and errors in it that you might think a tabloid put it out... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 5/1/10, James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote: From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hits 3 homes. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:05 PM Here is the link. http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/city/blast-in-east-jakarta-believed-to-be-meteorite/372314 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Prices
I have to agree. If it was the only stone found, that would be one thing. But when over 10kg has already been found and many, many more kgs are out there, this one stone, while nice is not the end all be all of the fall. There are many others that are just as nice, or better that are available as whole stones. Remember, much will not be made public until the area is as secure and clean of meteorites as possible. We will see a 3kg stone soon, then more kg sized stones coming out after that. This was not a small fall. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Prices To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 5:43 PM Why all the over-passionate debate about a man in a free country that found a stone and cut it up to sell it? What business is it of ours how he plays with his rock? If someone thought it was so beautiful, they could have offered to buy it and thus preserve it's beauty. It's actually easy to agree with and see all points of view here. Both sides make valid points and both sides are right. It boils down to the owner of the stone doing as they see fit. If you don't like the idea of it being cut, buy it before it gets cut. Warren sansoucie Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:12:11 -0700 From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Prices I wouldn't expect anything less from a dealer, with few exceptions. The point, Darryl, is that I wouldn't care if it's the largest stone or the smallest one - and I know for a fact that there are larger stones from this fall that have already been found. Just...look at those photos. It's a beautiful stone. --Meteorites are necessarily subdivided to assist researchers in their work; --No true meteorite lover would thwart such research by preventing the subdivision of their specimen; Broken side or not, it's a beautiful stone, and it's a shame to see it cut. Yes, samples of falls are always required for analysis and study, and I'm always willing to give up that share. You imply that we're against it. And there's a hell of a big difference between giving 20 grams (or more) to science and slicing up a stone to sell to collectors. --Joe's stone was already subdivided by atmospheric forces. It was incomplete and I do not comprehend why the supposed largest stone needs to be preserved as found; The main justification that I've seen so for for cutting it is that 'it's a broken stone - it should be cut anyways.' Two or three people have brought this up. Practically all meteorites are subdivided by atmospheric forces. You seem to be implying that a complete fusion crust would be enough to warrant not cutting it. Look at the photographs, Darryl. It's a beautiful stone. I used to be of the mentality that 'if it's not complete, it's not worth getting.' But lately, I've been seeing larger fragments of beautiful fresh falls, and I've stopped caring so much. A broken side on a meteorite is a window into the interior of what's likely a four and a half billion year old time capsule. Especially with a breccia like this stone...a broken side doesn't detract. Yes, you might get a few dollars less per gram. As a collector, that makes it all the more appealing to me. The comparison of Mineral Point to the Mona Lisa (chasing the alliteration) does not hold up to scrutiny. Meteorites are not paintings---which are typically not cut apart, except by art critics. The only place I see the analogy actually failing is with regards to the fact that science always needs a piece of a given meteorite, so you always have to 'cut that corner off.' I would argue that we should cut meteorites up about as often as paintings are shredded, with few exceptions. If there's scientific work to be done, great, cut it. If not...cutting up stones for money and so that 'everyone can have a piece'... Darryl, you say that cutting stones up for science is a good thing - but that's such a vague statement. I agree - samples should be available for science, but that's not what happens. Science gets what science gets, and the rest gets sold. You can't justify the dicing up of large meteorites with science, because cutting a meteorite doesn't mean that more will go to an institution. In most cases, dealers give the same small samples to science because they want to sell as much as they can. I know, there are exceptions. Most cases, though. The criticism and condescension exhibited by some meteorite collectors over
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin vs Tamdakht and other NWA falls
Which is very ironic seeing as how most NWA falls remain very stable and weather very little to none when recovered soon after the fall. Just goes to show how much of a deal NWA meteorites are. Hope everyone is doing good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Fri, 4/30/10, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: From: m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin vs Tamdakht and other NWA falls To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 9:47 PM Simple: DEMAND. US and European falls are always sought after more than ANY other falls. From my sales of meteorites over the last 13+ years, the US and European FALLS fly off the shelves whereas Moroccan meteorites, take some time (sometimes YEARS to sell). Furthermore, the majority of collectors in the world are from the US and Europe, which drives up the demand. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:41:41 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin vs Tamdakht and other NWA falls Dear list members, I was wondering about the price about the two falls, Wisconsin and Tamdakht ( nwa fall example). why does Wisconsin is expensive more than Tamdakht 30 times? is it because of the TKW, the a video of the fireball was taken or tamdakht was felt in NWW ( since nwa is known with the cheapest meteorites in the planet because people here are poor). The most thing I noticed is that UShunters have one word, otherwise some NWA dealers who do not have access to such a fall try to breake it by saying there is 500kg or a Ton, btw, does anyone know what's the TKW of Tamdakht? My experience tells me even a common chondrite falls in Europe or US would cost 30 times the same material falls in NWA, i klnow that USand europe have stong economy, but it's about meteorite fall, no matter where it falls. Please let me knwo what is the difference between NWA falls and American/european falls!!! what about a US lunar find, i think it would cost $30k a gram. I really hope to ge some reasonable questions!! My best and happy hunting to our friend in the Wisconsin field. Aziz, Suffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Opinions on this... whatever it is.
One of the many emails I have been getting from people wanting to know if they have a meteorite or not... Not sure just what this thing is, but its Strange looking. As always, this also comes with a story behind it. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC02157.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] green mineral in WI meteorite
I recently had one like that - full of green crystals, Ted Bunch is doing the classification on it. Dont you remember the pics I posted on skyrock of the green crystals? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 4/28/10, countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net wrote: From: countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] green mineral in WI meteorite To: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:11 PM Probably one of the newly classified E2's. You know..the ones with the emeralds. :o) Seriously...congratulations. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 28, 2010 9:07 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] green mineral in WI meteorite I took off a very small little chip from my 332gr WI meteorite. I them examined the fresh matrix with a loupe and notice some sort of green mineral, it is a crystal of some sort, I never seen this before in a meteorite, it could be common, I just never seen it before. If I had a decent camera I would get a photo of it to show everyone. I cant wait to see it sliced up. I am very curious now, even more than before. Is this common? Does anyone know what it could be? Has anyone else noticed this in a slice, fragment or broken surface? Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - WI meteorite $60 per gram
Working to close a deal on some stones from the WI fall. I will be offering this at $60 per gram. If anyone is interested at this price, send me an email off list. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices - was $60 per gram AD
Hi to all, an update to my AD. All samples I had available have been sold or are on hold. Joe's stone is an awesome find. Since I have known Joe, he has been wanting and wishing for a local fall he could go to. He got his wish with the WI fall. This was for him as the Whetstone was for Jack. It was meant to be. Joe had his kids with him and together, his wish came true. That alone is enough of a story make his find worth more then any hammer, or any other stone found from this fall. The Kerchner Stone is a sample to be had for any collection as it is shows as an example that wishes do come true. I will be getting one, even though I have some already... just for the story behind it. Hope everyone is good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:27 PM Im takin orders for slices from the 332 gram kerchner stone. If you are looking for a specific sized slice or part slice, you can put in you request now. Slices will be from .5g -20g slices0 they will be very thin and most part slices over 2g will have crust. If you want an end piece I will have 2 available. Contact me off list for prices, it will be the lowest I have seen offered. You can request slices larger than 20 if you want. I have had many people promised slices already so hurry if you want one. Pieces will be mailed out first thing monday morning. Best wishes Joe kerchner __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Personal Data collection - Off topic, but important.
There's a site called spokeo.com and it's an online phone book that has a picture of you and your house, credit score, profession, age, how many people live in the house. Remove yourself by the Privacy button on the bottom right. I personally checked it out and it is real. It had 2 of my old addresses on it and our current one, not all of the info is accurate but it is still weird! COPY, PASTE AND REPOST Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- auctions ending in an hour
Hit to all, I have some really nice meteorites listed on ebay some are still at the .99 starting bid. Great deals on other nice meteorites also. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Hope everyone is having a good day. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] X37B - OT
Somewhere above earth is America’s latest spaceship, a 30ft craft so classified that the Pentagon will not divulge its mission nor how much it cost to build. The mysterious X37B, launched successfully by the US Air Force from Cape Canaveral on Thursday, using an Atlas V rocket, looks like a mini-Space Shuttle — but its mission is top secret. It is officially described as an orbital test vehicle. However, one of its potential uses appears to be to launch a surge of small satellites during periods of high international tension. This would enable America to have eyes and ears orbiting above any potential troublespot in the world. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7106714.ece Pretty impressive looking! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite TV
Hi to all. Hope everyone is doing well. I am looking for assorted meteorite related video to put onto a new site I started, www.meteoritetv.com If anyone has any meteorite related video or shows they want to share, send a digital copy (or link) my way and I will put it on the site. This is going to be an educational meteorite resource. Still in the early stages, but its up and running. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
I got a very strange question today, out of the blue that was kinda rude in my opinion. Anyone know this ebay user? philw3 Check out the listing and see the question I got from him. Please note there was no previous contact. May be a good person to add to the blocked buyers list - I did. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390176039170#description Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone?
I think you mis read it. He called for my banishment. I just dont understand why there is such anger without knowing the story behind the piece. Its got some interesting history since I have owned it. It was purchased by someone at the Johnson Space center. When it arrived broken due to poor handling by USPS, It was returned to me and I provided another sample and decided to sell the small fragments from the larger fragment that got broke. Its a nice story behind the sample. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 4/21/10, countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net wrote: From: countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone? To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:13 PM He sounds hot for a nice specimen and pissed that this one was a bitshall we say small and unattractive...? If you had a larger and more photogenic piece he would have been hard pressed to turn it down. You didn't miss a sale opportunity here, did you? I know some customers lack social skills and act like jerks, but you've been around enough to have a hard skin and keep your eye on the game winner. A sale. Were just discussing this...I mean no criticism..but, you did call for his banishment and I disagree...stay cool, read between the lines and work these types. Sometimes, with your patience and experience, they get an epiphany and become a reliable source of revenue. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 21, 2010 7:37 PM To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this ebay user known to anyone? Hi Greg and List, Just don't tell him that I take a hammer and smash some specimens into micromounts. LOL He'd cry if he saw what I did to a slice of Thuathe. LOL Best regards, MikeG On 4/21/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: I got a very strange question today, out of the blue that was kinda rude in my opinion. Anyone know this ebay user? philw3 Check out the listing and see the question I got from him. Please note there was no previous contact. May be a good person to add to the blocked buyers list - I did. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390176039170#description Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupé finds his first meteo rite from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball!
Congrats to Greg H. Way to go! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote: From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Subject: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupé finds his first meteorite from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball! To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 8:49 AM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/greg_hupe.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- .99 auctions ending in 3 hours
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. just a quick note - I have several .99 auctions ending in just over 3 hours on ebay. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] to those in WI
Anyone in WI in the field who would be willing to let me and my daughter join up with them, send me an email. I am getting ready to head out there - coming from North Carolina so it will be a bit until I am there. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD- .99 auctions ending in 3 hours To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 11:37 AM Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. just a quick note - I have several .99 auctions ending in just over 3 hours on ebay. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] We might have another fall. - Admission
I admit it. I made it up. It was my hopes that everyone would pack up and go check it out and allow me to get all the meteorites in WI... Well, not really, but it sounds good. I agree, I think its a poorly done fake. Hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] We might have another fall. To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 7:25 PM LOL. The fireball looks out of phase with the sky and the rest of the picture. The surrounding scenery in the photo doesn't seem to be lit properly from that fireball. Plus , anyone looking at that knows that it's a contrail from an alien vessel from the planet Klick Klock. Warren Sansoucie From: geo...@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:16:59 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] We might have another fall. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-33051-LA-Weather-Examiner~y2010m4d16-Br ight-meteor-streaks-across-Southern-California-Deserts That meteor picture doesn't look right to me. I get the impression that it might have been artificially made/. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - need some cash for the road sale
I have some really nice meteorites listed on ebay, I am looking to head to search the recent fall, give me offers for items off of ebay, I will work good deals. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Hope everyone is good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First recovered meteorite from the April 14, 2010 Wisconsin fireball. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 2:04 AM On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_14_2010_meteorite_fall.html Excellent! May it be the first of many! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Almahata Sitta meteorite up for auction on eBay-1st observed in Space
Mike Cottingham Jr? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Almahata Sitta meteorite up for auction on eBay-1st observed in Space To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 5:57 PM Hello Listers, Up for auction is a 15mg Almahata Sitta 3 x 4mm meteorite fragment on eBay. Take a look if you like and have a good Sunday. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260584509981ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Thank you Shawn Alan eBay Shop http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - .99 meteorites ending today
Hi to everyone, I hope all is well. I have some nice listings ending today, 2 are still at .99 opening price. Also, there are only 2 complete slices of the really nice Breccia that I am waiting on an NWA number for. Other nice meteorites for sale, all at very good prices. I am currently offering 10% off of selected items listed on ebay http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 More to be listed today. Thanks for looking, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites fund terrorism questions
Hi all, hope everyone is doing well. I have a question... I was looking up the subject NWA meteorites and the first page I get is this site: http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html While I know this site has been discussed before, has anyone tried to talk to them to get it removed? The most common meteorites are NWAs and it seems to me that if a simple search turns this up, it may discourage people who simply dont look more into the story. Are they a member of this list? What is this guys intentions of doing this anyway? Does anyone know? He looks to be a dealer of NWAs... strange. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Baja earthquake
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_quake_mexico TIJUANA (Reuters) – A strong 6.9 magnitude earthquake struck in Baja California, Mexico on Sunday, rocking buildings and panicking residents as far away as Tijuana and Los Angeles and Palm Springs, California. Mexican officials had no immediate reports of damage or injuries. I'm shaking like a leaf ... the pool water was just going everywhere, said Jean Nelson in Indio, California outside of Palm Springs. A Reuters witness in Tijuana said cars in a parking lot outside of a building could be seen jolting with the quake. The quake was felt in downtown Los Angeles, witnesses said. The quake struck at 15:40 Pacific time (6:40 p.m. EDT) 16 miles south southwest of Guadalupe Victoria at a depth of 20 miles. The quake was 108 miles east southeast of Tijuana. Multiple aftershocks were reported. (Reporting by Lizbeth Salazar, Jackie Frank and Tomas Sarmiento; Writing by Robert Campbell; Editing by Will Dunham) Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 4/4/10, geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com wrote: From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Baja earthquake To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 7:10 PM Try this website for baja earthquake GeoZay http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items
There is currently over 4000 meteorite listings on ebay... far more then anywhere else. Major changes to the fee and listing structure will spawn discussion. While the subject of ebay is not meteorite related, many of us buy/sell meteorites on ebay, therefor the 2 are related in a way. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Michael Silveus msilv...@cox.net wrote: From: Michael Silveus msilv...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 1:24 PM Yes and I fully get it, but what I'm complaining about is the volume of mail about the pros and cons of any business enterprise be it ebay or any other currently far outweighs the subject matter of the list which I thought was about hunting for and discussing of meteorites. Mike On 03/30/2010 09:33, valpar...@aol.com wrote: I am getting tried of reading about how someone might go about screwing with other businesses and request that this topic be defined as off topic and taken off list. Mike (Silveus) Ebay is a business and its goal is to make as much money as possible, which involves decisions such as what is the net effect on revenue if we raise fees by X and it pisses sellers off so that Z of them leave ebay? Being a near-monopoly, they don't care if you like them or not. As the Count points out, the fees on ebay are substantially less than the major auction houses. Shipping from the majors is brutal. And slow. Sellers on ebay are businesses, too. They make their own calculations on how to maximize profit. One way is to shift some product cost to shipping cost. Ebay has a policy against this and, in some categories, 'books' for example, they strictly limit what can be charged for shipping. In other categories it is not well defined. Engaging in this practice is not 'screwing' anyone. It's business and it's entirely within the rules of ebay. Ebay is a national treasure but they are also SOBs, just like so many other things in life. Paul Swartz __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items
I would like to add in the very subjective DSRs. .5% can ruin your business by leaving poor DSRs. A seller can ship the same day of payment, for the exact cost of shipping and the buyer can in turn leave 1s or 2s and potentially cause the seller to loose the 20% fvf discount. again, less then 1% of buyers can ruin your business. When a buyer who gets the item within 3-5 days of payment, and you can prove it was shipped same day as payment yet they can leave 1s and 2s... thats not right. The DSRs on shipping time and cost are only there to hurt sellers by providing a way for ebay to take TRS status and the rewards that go with it. Sure it was put there for a reason, but it was ill thought. Just like the Top Rated Seller (TRS) and Above Standard Seller (ASS)... who the hell in ebay thought to call a large portion of its sellers ASS? I hate selling on ebay, but cant reach the people that ebay can without it. I love buying on ebay, I cant get the deals I can anywhere else. Thats all from me on the subject, hope all is good with everyone. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 3/30/10, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items To: meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Göran Axelsson axels...@acc.umu.se, countde...@earthlink.net Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 1:40 PM Count, Two sides to every story. You are spot on when it comes to talking about the good aspects of ebay. And you pointed out that the difference in eBay and other auctions is quite different. Well, I have to say that there are a whole bunch of bad aspects of eBay. Which has contributed to the decline of the company. fees not withstanding. First and foremost are the scams. Look no farther than the recent listing for the Lorton fall. What if it had a low buy it now price? It may have been snapped up before we caught it. Yes, we caught them and shut them down but this is often not the case. eBay has been sued hundreds of times for misrepresentation of objects they sell. Yes, it has been ruled that they are the sellers in spite of the fact that they really aren't. They dictate the terms therefore they are also at fault. This mostly for fake stuff or stolen merchandise. The other clear problem with buying from photos is that photos can be fixed and subsequently be very deceiving. Sure, some of us old pros can see a thief a mile a way but some cannot. Trick wording like I'm not an expert. and Style as in Victorian style which is not to be confused with Victorian. Victorian is a clear indication of a specific time period and therefore age. Style means modern copy. Mostly, It is very difficult to buy from and sometimes foolish to buy from any photo. What if you don't know the seller? In our field it helps to buy from IMCA members but, as you said. IMCA are not your sellers or buyers. You want idiots to bid that do not know the true value of your stuff. That is how EBay works. Be careful. In general it is all about the scams. These are much less likely in a live auction. I would rather listen to Guido and Michael live and even pay a bit more knowing that I was able to touch and examine the item before bidding on potential crap. ebay is the one that's a bit like communism. You cannot vote them out of office. You just have to live with it because you cannot live without it. At least not yet. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax countde...@earthlink.net wrote: G. Axelsson said eBay is not an ordinary auction house. He is right. It is superior to any auction house! Again from experience in owning and operating an auction conglomerate, I say that the price received at auction for an item is directly related to the number of bidders participating. The number of bidders participating is directly related to the number of potential bidders who were informed of the sale. eBay's format allows anyone to find a category of item for sale easily and instantly. No auction company could afford to advertise and promote enough to reach eBay's market of potential bidders. In other words...the more bidders...the higher the price. Competition and emotion drive bids. Knowledgeable bidders such as ourselves...are not the people I want to see buy my goods. Neither, do I want investors as the high bidders. I want those bidders who are acting on emotion, are inexperienced in values, and not buying for investment or re-sale, to be my high bidders. When I sell to a dealer, or investor I am disappointed because I know I sold wholesale. You want that bidder with a pocketful of bucks who wants the item because your description hooked him and he doesn;t care what he pays for it. Yes
Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items
I think this is something that is very on topic as regards to ebay fees and such. Many people here buy and or sell meteorites on ebay and the fee increase will effect a certain portion of list members. I personally cant afford to risk the chance of taking losses as my profit margins are thin as it is to list many items at .99 starting price. I am not a large scale dealer like some out there, I sell to help build my collection and to fund meteorite related projects. Even one loss would work against what I sell. Most of my items are fixed price. I will have to raise prices to make up for ebay fees as will many others. I will be offering more deals from my website then on ebay, but my website is not known like ebay. As many have said, ebay is the place to sell. Its just getting tougher for smaller sellers like me to compete with bigger dealers who can afford to do the .99 listings. As far as the idea of shipping fees, I wont be doing it. Hope everyone is doing good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Michael Silveus msilv...@cox.net wrote: From: Michael Silveus msilv...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the price increase on eBay on some items To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:36 PM I am getting tried of reading about how someone might go about screwing with other businesses and request that this topic be defined as off topic and taken off list. Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - beat the ebay increase
Hi to all, I have some nice meteorites listed for sale on ebay at good prices. Today is the last day before fees increase on ebay, buy now while the price is still low I will be listing many more items today. 10% off sales completed off ebay as always. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Thanks, hope everyone is having a good day! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On Now! - Sodom Gomorrah on Science Channel
where are all those meteorites from billions of tons of debris that supposedly fell on Sodom and Gomorrah? Northwest Africa? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 3/28/10, geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com wrote: From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On Now! - Sodom Gomorrah on Science Channel To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 10:05 PM Biblical Mysteries Explained examines the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah. Could their destruction be linked to evidence of an ancient asteroid strike? Ancient Astronomers calculate a possible asteroid impact? I just watched this program. It's left me wondering where are all those meteorites from billions of tons of debris that supposedly fell on Sodom and Gomorrah? If that one nearby town was found, then surely nearby there should be a fanny load of meteorites laying about just waiting to be scooped up. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Heads-Up: Another important article on Carancas in MAPS 44-12, 2009
There was a recent report that explained several items you mentioned. I dont have a link to it at the moment, but I am sure someone on the list knows what Im talking about who has the info available. If not, I will post it later on. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Heads-Up: Another important article on Carancas in MAPS 44-12, 2009 To: tett t...@rogers.com Cc: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 7:14 PM Hi Bernd and List, Another key finding in the paper is that the altitude of the impact site had little effect on the formation of the crater. There are still unanswered questions as to why Carancas did not behave the way it should have, based on it's composition, velocity and trajectory. We should be thankful that whatever forces caused the crater are not at play with every OC fall. Best regards, MikeG On 3/24/10, tett t...@rogers.com wrote: Bernd, It is GOOD to have you back on the list! Mike bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: TANCREDI G. et al. (2009) A meteorite crater on Earth formed on September 15, 2007: The Carancas hypervelocity impact (MAPS 44-12, 2009, pp. 1967-1984). Some of the key results the authors present: - initial mass 7-12 metric tons - initial diameter 1.6-2 meters - initial velocity 12-17 km/s - initial kinetic energy 0.12-0.41 kT TNT - trajectory roughly east-west - height above the horizon 45-60° - orbit of known near-Earth asteroids - impact time 16:40:14.4 UT - crater dimensions: 13.5 m (rim to rim) - depth to diameter ratio ca. 0.2 (typical of impact craters) - meteorites collected inside and outside the crater - classification H4-5 - peak pressures at impact over several GPa - impact velocity on the ground ca. 3 km/s but 6 km/s - hypervelocity impact event (impact speed larger than the speed of sound in the target material) - significant ablation but no catastrophic disruption during atmospheric passage - mass on impact 0.3-3 tons / diameter 0.6-1.1 m Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Show - why its good for all
Just a quick note as to a good reason why the meteorite men show is so good for all of us - a message from an ebay member: I found the new show Meteorite Men on the Science Channel and have become very curious about meteorites This is bringing new collectors every showing! I get this email alot. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men - was Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 22, 2010
I would agree that a few shows on historic and educational outreach would be a good thing, but Im sure they probably have rather limited input on the direction of the show. That said, I would like to hear them comment of the possibilities of doing more in this area. The show is a great tool to bring more new people into meteorites, but as with anything (baseball cards, toys etc) when there is a value and increase in interest, there will be scammers that come in to try to make the quick buck. Overall, the show is one of the best marketing tools the meteorite world has seen. Keep it up guys, as others have said, there is room to grow! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 22, 2010 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 1:11 PM I agree with you Adam. As much as the Meteorite Men show has provided better awareness to meteorites in the general population, it has also spurred the conmen and get-rich-quick schemers. I think the show has been steered by producers to make it more appealing to viewers, but in doing so have placed far too much emphasis on monetary value and too little on scientific importance. This brings all the riffraff out of the woodwork and now we are beginning to see the negative effects this brings on our hobby/business/passion. My 2¢ gary On Mar 22, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: A lot of viewers are clinging to the hope they will become overnight millionaires. Most of them will not listen when you tell them their prized new Moon rock is a piece of quartz or their new Pallasite is nothing more then slag. They will become increasingly angry when you try to explain why. They know it is real because it looks just like the one they saw on TV and will not be told otherwise. I do not even respond any more as I do not like to be put in a position as the bay guy who has to break the news that their worthless rock will not make them the latest millionaire. This is what happens when the media focuses too much on the monetary aspect of meteorite collecting. It out weighs any educational benefit this type of show may have provided. The state Washington and Oregon suddenly announced their no collecting policy on federal land; the timing is uncanny. A lot of scam artists will also attach themselves if the smell of easy money is present. One just has to look at the most expensive meteorites on eBay to see this effect. Now, there is always a few fakes listed in the top dollar page. I would hate to see meteorite hunting/collecting go the way treasure hunting did 25 years ago when the avocation almost went extinct, mainly due to the press. Professional treasure hunters now avoid the press when values are put up. Just look at the Mel Fisher group who had to fight for a decade to keep a good portion of their major find due to the fact the press attached a billion dollar price tag to it. Everybody seemed to have a claim on it when they didn't lift a finger to find it. The press made it look easy when in fact Mel suffered many hardships including the loss of his sons life. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 6:20:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 22, 2010 http:www.rocksfromspace.org/March_22_2010.html --- Thumbed On My BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome deals - need cash asap
Hi to all, I need to get some cash together ASAP. I have some nice meteorites listed on ebay, priced lower then they will be after the fee increase goes into effect. I will give you 10% off any ebay item if the sale is off ebay. Also, I have a really nice sample listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=390159436356ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT I will let this go for $1500 off ebay, you cant get a better deal then that. This one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=220568128764ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT I will let go for $1100 off ebay. you can see my other listings here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see
You mean by looking here? http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvaultQQhtZ-1 I would agree, but the final value fees have increased a good amount also. You will be paying a good deal more for the final amount it sells for which is never the .99 its starts at. Unless the bid prices increase, you (any seller) will not make as much after fees then before the new prices set in. Sellers will adapt to make it work and ebay knows it because they have the market. Its a great time for buyers however. With programs like ebay bucks and bing cashback, you save 18% on buy it now items like the ones you see here http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Hope everyone has a good night. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 2:06 AM Hi GregC and List, GregC wrote, Its really bad, will cause the buyers to pay more due to sellers marking up price to match the new cut ebay wants. Respectfully, I do not agree with this comment. If sellers are willing to eat pay more overhead through eBay's greed, how can buyers go wrong with great items that start at 99 cents? Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see Ebay has great reach. I will be using my website more and trying (as I have been, this fee raise has been known for months) Its really bad, will cause the buyers to pay more due to sellers marking up price to match the new cut ebay wants. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:41 AM There are no online sites the can provide the reach that Ebay does. Ebay knows this, hence their overinflated fees and idiotic policies which are driving away sellers. No sellers + Nothing to buy = Less money for Ebay! Seems rather counter intuitive to me. I say Ebay should raise their fees to 50% and get it over with. At least then they'll go bankrupt faster and people will be motivated to create an alternative. Spacifieds.com is a free option. I created this site a while back and its been on pause for a while. http://www.spacifieds.com/ I know there's some other auction sites, but nothing like Ebay. Yahoo shut it's auctions down a long time ago, and Amazon is mainly books and stuff and their fees are expensive. I don't know of any alternative that can really compete with Ebay except Craigslist and Ebay owns 25% of that company too. Oh well... Regards, Eric On 3/16/2010 10:24 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote: Much of my collection has come about by winning ebay auctions, but I can see dealers bugging out in greater numbers. Ebay is easy to use, but I'd rather put my money in the dealer's than into ebay's pocket... What online auction sites are you dealers using or considering using? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo
[meteorite-list] ISO - Canyon Diablo needed
Hi to everyone! I would like to get a nice Canyon Diablo sample that is 200g or more. I currently only have a small one and want to be able to show a nicer sized one along with pictures of the crater. The small one is nice, but is missing the wow factor that a larger sample would offer. With the size of the crater, I would like to be able to show more then a 25g iron to go with it. Funds are tough right now, I would be willing to work a trade out for a sample. Not looking for anything too rusty as this will be a display piece. If anyone can fill this need, please send an email off list. Thanks! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see
Ebay has great reach. I will be using my website more and trying (as I have been, this fee raise has been known for months) Its really bad, will cause the buyers to pay more due to sellers marking up price to match the new cut ebay wants. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:41 AM There are no online sites the can provide the reach that Ebay does. Ebay knows this, hence their overinflated fees and idiotic policies which are driving away sellers. No sellers + Nothing to buy = Less money for Ebay! Seems rather counter intuitive to me. I say Ebay should raise their fees to 50% and get it over with. At least then they'll go bankrupt faster and people will be motivated to create an alternative. Spacifieds.com is a free option. I created this site a while back and its been on pause for a while. http://www.spacifieds.com/ I know there's some other auction sites, but nothing like Ebay. Yahoo shut it's auctions down a long time ago, and Amazon is mainly books and stuff and their fees are expensive. I don't know of any alternative that can really compete with Ebay except Craigslist and Ebay owns 25% of that company too. Oh well... Regards, Eric On 3/16/2010 10:24 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote: Much of my collection has come about by winning ebay auctions, but I can see dealers bugging out in greater numbers. Ebay is easy to use, but I'd rather put my money in the dealer's than into ebay's pocket... What online auction sites are you dealers using or considering using? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scale Cubes
This has been a good discussion. The 1cm scale cubes I use do not have any markings on them to clearly show it to be 1cm. I usually provide the information in listings and such, but after reading the posts, I think I am going to mark mine as 1cm to clearly show it in the picture. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 3/15/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scale Cubes [WAS: Ad Announcing the Count cube Scale /... To: damoc...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 4:20 PM Richard and all, I believe that one of the original uses was archaeology. When an archaeologist would find an artifact he wanted to take pictures from all sides before digging out. So let's say it was a pot in a grave, he would shot the north/south/east/west sides of the pot, turning the cube every time so in later studies in a lab they would be able to recreate the tomb and the exact position of each object. So it was not only for size but also for exact angle/position of each artifact by itself and also in relation to all the others. And I agree that a scale cube should show clearly what the scale is. Less than honest sellers (on Ebay, for instance!) could be tempted to use one for the other. Another reason why I don't believe we should use any coin or key, oretc. Yes, we in the US know that a dime is 18 mm across, but we should not expect someone on the other side of the globe to know that. Just my 2mm. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 3/15/2010 2:32:37 AM Mountain Daylight Time, damoc...@yahoo.com writes: Shawn, Matt, If I'm not mistaken, the scale cube was invented specifically for the lunar samples brought back by the Apollo missions. Obviously, the idea behind using a scale cube is just that, to show the scale of the object in the photograph. I agree that for good scientific reasons, a scale cube in some metric measurement makes the most sense. A cubic centimeter is most common, but why not a cubic decimeter or a cubic meter, if those are appropriately sized for the object? I have no problem with any sized scale cube as long as the dimension is clearly marked and visible in the photograph. 1-cm, 1 inch, no matter. There is no standard so to speak. The key is to use something of the appropriate scale for the object being photographed... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Museum update - site and news
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. Its been a long day and a late night, but I am happy to announce that the museum will in part be named after someone whos books and work has been a great influence to me. With Dorothy Nortons blessing, I will be honoring Richard Norton in the museums name. After careful thought and consideration, I have decided to name it after two people who I feel have contributed a great deal to meteorites. Richards books are a must have for anyone interested in meteorites and while I sadly did not have the chance to meet him, from his books, part of his knowledge of meteorites has been able to be passed on to me and future generations of meteorite collectors. The contributions Richard made and his role in providing educational resources reflects the direction that I want the museum to go and how I would like it to be seen. I will honor him in my small way by doing my very best to provide a place that will be a valuable educational resource to all that wish to come. Many thanks to Dorothy Norton. I have a temporary website set up that I am working on and updating as I have the time. Many of you have been asking to be kept up to date, the website will be a good source for the latest up to date information. www.meteoritemuseum.info If all goes well, I hope to have it open by August of this year. This is purely experimental but with a little bit of luck and good fortune, this will be able to be something that will be around for some time. I will be using the museum as a means to share my collection of meteorites and offer a educational resource that is not available anywhere near my area. The month to month cost will be expensive, I am looking to offset costs by running it with a close friend and no salary as well as offering a gift store with meteorites for sale. There will be guest speakers and lectures monthly and in time, I hope to offer samples on loan from several well known private collections on display. I will not make any profit of this, it is not my intention to have this as a business, but to offer a valuable tool to the community I live in and anyone who wants to visit. If and when it ever does start bringing in more then it costs to run, all funds will be used to provide growth to the museum. If anyone would like to offer to be a guest speaker or help in any way, feel free to email me. More to come soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to contact Dorothy Norton
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I would like to speak with Dorothy Norton, could someone please forward my email and ask her to please contact me or send me her email off list. Thanks! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trying to contact Dorothy Norton
Thanks, I have what I needed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sun, 3/14/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Trying to contact Dorothy Norton To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 4:58 PM Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I would like to speak with Dorothy Norton, could someone please forward my email and ask her to please contact me or send me her email off list. Thanks! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why isnt documenting meteorites stressed enough?
I agree 100% that locations should be recorded. If you look at the job that Jack and Dave did with the Whetstone fall, as I have said before, that should set the benchmark for recoveries and recording locations. Anything less should be unacceptable. The time that was spent to record each stone recovered will add so much to the provenance of the stone. I am one of the first to talk about how unreasonable the $100 per gram price tag that is put onto new falls is, buy in my opinion, just the documentation behind Whetstone is worth any amount asked for it. Im sure not just collectors but anyone would agree that documentation is of utmost importance when purchasing and collecting material. I remember with the West fall, strewnfield maps were supposed to be done but after all this time, not one page has been released. I personally think the time spent with documentation and careful records will show where the hunters motivations are. Those that are out for the quick buck will grab and go for the next. Those that are interested in the actual science will do what Jack and Dave did from here out. I would like to see all recoveries treated in the same manner, and challenge all the hunters to step up and record everything you can... you want $100 per gram? Get everyone good documentation! Just my thoughts on it. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Why isnt documenting meteorites stressed enough? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 2:48 PM Hi Shawn, I agree that the public needs to be informed about how to recover meteorites in the field and preserve scientific data. Recovering meteorites and their coordinates is vitally imporant to the science of meteorites. However the degree of importance is also based in part on how long a meteorite has been on the ground, whether it's on the surface or is buried, the type of a meteorite it is, and the ground it's recovered on. Meteorite fragments found on dry lake beds or anywhere on old ground, do in fact move. In my opinion coordinate data is still valuable, but not as valuable as say data from a fresh meteorite fall. This of course relates to the time a meteorite has been on the ground. There are many variables to take into account, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some but here's some of those variables or dynamics... If a meteorite fall happened 1000 years ago, and the area it fell is NOT subject to a lot of weathering, wind, rains, floods, etc, then each coordinate is still very important to science and for locating more fragments or other whole stones from the same meteorite fall. However, if a meteorite fell say on a slope of ground, or a highly hostile environment, weather and time will take over and the meteorite could move miles from it's original fall location. This also depends on size and weight of the stone, whether there was a flood, whether it was an iron meteorite or a stone. A stony iron meteorite strewnfield for example will show how coordinates from a meteorite that fell many years ago is still vitally important to science. This also goes to type. The Brenham meteorite strewnfield is a perfect example of an older fall event that humans are just now (geologically speaking) recovering. The recovery of more specimens from this fall is due in large part from coordinates. Coordinates allow one to predict with some accuracy where other larger or smaller pieces should be located based on the dynamics of any given fall. Some people would have you believe recording coordinates is not important. I personally believe it is vitally important to the advancement of meteorite science, and I'm reasonably sure the the vast majority of meteorite hunters and scientists out there feel the same way. Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA On 3/12/2010 10:16 PM, Shawn Alan wrote: Hello List, This has been a good topic and I can see the importance of people trying to document finds of meteorites. If that be taking a photo and remembering where you found it or explaining to your friends about the time you where in the mountains and you found a strange rock. Each individuals experience will be different and the knowledge that one might have in documentations of the coordinates will vary as well. A good example, at work a co worker told me a story about when he was a young kid he would going off with some of his friends and look for meteorites. At the time I bet they had no clue what they looked like or even if they really did find them. At any rate by him sharing that story he was able to tell his experience with me when he was a kid collecting meteorites. Now from a scientific stand point he did a big mistake
[meteorite-list] L'aigle and other meteorite names... just how do you say it?
Hi to all, just finished a very nasty bout with a terrible little stomach bug. 2 days of feeling pretty bad. Many emails from metlist I have to check over, I will be offering some replies, they may be a bit late. There are many meteorites with names that may be foreign to many of us. I have often wondered just how they are actually pronounced... L'aigle... just how do you say it? http://www.forvo.com/word/l%27aigle#fr Sound correct to those who know how to say it? There are other meteorite names on the site. If want to know if one you want is listed, type it in and see if its there. Hope everyone is having a good day. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ash Creek=stony iro...@#
I would like to note that caution needs to be used if doing this and specific rules need to be followed. Me and several others worked together some time ago to remove a seller (ryderdude) on ebay who was selling meteorites with fake and doctored reports. While no legal action was taken (plenty was threatened by the seller) legal action can occur if not worded/done properly. It took an attorney and threats of court action against ebay )for aiding in fraud (they were provided with proof they were informed) until they to action to finally remove the seller. Keep in mind, this was with many people working together and took about 3 weeks to a month of dedicated calls, emails and communication daily with trust and safety and the legal dept of ebay. Ebay honestly does not care about the fraud, until someone with actual legal power steps in. Keep in mind, ebay will try to make things tough for you if you do choose to fight them. Ive been there... Ebay actually tried to ban me for 30 days on ebay over the issue of contacting buyers who were scammed by the seller. An email and fax to ebay from legal counsel quickly changed that and resulted in less then 12 hours of suspension (I actually got a buy off... I mean credit, from ebay over it) I was lucky to have an attorney in the family who helped, if not I could have run into high legal costs. Another thing to keep in mind, if you use a selling account to communicate, you could suffer retaliation neg feedbacks and also investigation by ebay concerning being considered a competitor of the scam seller and any intent of yours to put him out so you can take his sales (stupid, but thats what they say) Just be prepared, sometimes when you rock the boat, you get wet. Would i do it again? without a doubt. Scammers on ebay hurt not just other sellers but everyone. Once someone buys a fake meteorite, they will think twice before buying another. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ash Creek=stony iro...@# To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 6:40 PM Someone needs to contact the winning bidder and notify them that what they purchased was not meteorites. Then notify Ebay of the auction. Regards, Eric On 3/11/2010 3:22 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: He sure does, Ken. Thanks for that link. Looks like a couple people didn't know any better. The winning bid was only $20 though. But that's $20 too much. Linton - Original Message - From: Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ash Creek=stony iro...@# Hi, He has a history: http://meteorite-identification.com/ebay/SSeller/pwrsllrextrme.html best, kn On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: Greetings list. Very interesting batch of West Texas stony iron chondrites here on e-bay. Many of them look like they've been lying along a creek for a few decades. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120541335542ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Happy bidding! g Linton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD -AWESOME NWA achondrite - very good prices!
Hi to all, Hope everyone is doing well. I have some really nice fusion crusted NWA achondrite available. While it is currently being classified, I am needing to get some of this sold asap. I have several complete slices, part slices and a 149 gram end cut for sale Price starts at $13 per gram and buyers will be updated once a NWA number is assigned. While it was first thought this was similar to the Howardite NWA 1929, preliminary testing has shown that these are not the same due to the absence of pervasive recrystallization. Here is the info from preliminary testing: This sample is different than the one Ted Bunch has characterized as NWA 1929. Here is a brief listing of its contents: -metal rich eucrite -Gabbro -Fine-grained Basalt -Recrystallized Basalt -Diogenite -Melt Clasts NWA 1929 is described as having pervasive recrystallization (its been hit so hard that grains within the original componants recrystallized to accomodate the stress it suffered). This does NOT show pervasive recrystallization. Pictures: Slices http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3529.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3528.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3523.jpg End cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3261.jpg Fusion crust http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3257.jpg Thanks for looking. Email me off list for more on this material. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brazilian customs delay 45-50 days currently
I was told by a customer of mine is Brazil that there is apparently a 45-50 day delay currently due to customs issues. Those that do any sales to Brazil may want to inform customers of this so they know there may be extended delays. Hope everyone is having a good day! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Shooting Star video from 11/02/09
Found this while watching Star Trek on JTV. I talked to the person who filmed it, They were traveling on I-55 away from Matthews MO on November 2. http://www.justin.tv/clip/9ea8d21d9587ea60#r=UOGy8NI Not sure if this was ever mentioned, or if its anything worth looking into. Back to Star Trek, hope everyone is good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fund raising meteorite sale
Hey, hope everyone is having a great day. I am needing to raise funds to secure the building for the museum, I am currently about $1500 short of the amount needed for the lease. I have some really nice material listed on ebay for sale, at great prices. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Several ultra rare meteorites with museum provenance/labels are available. Samples include: Karoonda Juvinas Siena also, 149g Howardite for less then $15 per gram with free express shipping. As always, I can offer better prices on sales completed off ebay. Thanks for looking! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Your top meteor sightings!
I saw a really nice one on the way to the recent MAG meeting. I first thought it was for 10 seconds, but more close to the time for me to tell my wife oh my god, look at that one! then it went out. I tried to find out more about it, but had no luck. That was the biggest and brightest one I think I have ever seen. Kinda nice early in the morning on the way to a meteorite meeting. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Your top meteor sightings! To: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 3:33 PM Hi list, I have never been lucky enough to see a bolide, or fire-ball. But I have in my life seen 3 that were bright green, 2 That made a loud hissing or swishing noise. But this past november, I seen a very Bright white one start directly over head and head south east, as the bright light burnt out, for a few tenths of a second, the object just glowed bright red, went dim, and glowed about half as bright again, no tail. I would think this object made it through the lowest levels of the atmosphere. Anyone ever had an encounter like that! Thanks Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison.....
I have to agree, this has been an awesome discussion. Murchison is one of my favorite samples in my collection. When information comes out like this, it always adds something even more special to it. Not an ad for me but, if anyone following this does not currently have a sample, Gary has some really nice samples at very good prices on ebay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfujmonQQhtZ-1 Its a must have for collectors, and this recent news just goes to show that the study of this is ongoing. Any other links to information on this meteorite would be great! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. To: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:39 PM Hello Zelimir Murchisionados, highly interesting indeed: thanks so much for informing us about your and your colleagues scientific work and giving us so the feeling of being privileged enough to sit in the very first row. If I understand your approach correct, your non-targeted focus of investigation leads directly to a highly diverse pattern. The last sentence of the abstract reads: This molecular complexity, which provides hints on heteroatoms chronological assembly, suggests that the extraterrestrial chemodiversity is high compared to terrestrial relevant biological- and biogeochemical-driven chemical space. The high level of extraterrestrial chemodiversity vs. the less diverse terrestrial chemical space - could that mean that development of life could depend on a kind of reduction of diversity? Caused by selection (= targetting?)? Life would be essentially linked to a process of picking up elements out of the construction kit? But than it begins to play by combining them? Wouldn't that point to the necessity to make a strong distinction between diversity and complexity? Could that mean that the complexity of terrestrial biological and biochemical space is a result of reduction of (initial) diversity? Perhaps six (crazy) questions too much from a non-natural scientist ... Best regards, Matthias B. - Original Message - From: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. Darren, list, The media info Darren is speaking about refers to the research we (a group of scientists) are being conducting since several months on Murchison, namely a non targeted analysis of its extraterrestrial organic contents. In a post I sent by end of last September, I had notified the list of that work by just mentioning the keywords Murchison and organic contant. The paper, that was submitted for publication in due time (right in time for the 40th anniversary of Murchison fall), was just anounced released out of press a couple of hours ago. Here is the reference: PNAS, 107 (7), 2763 -2768 (2010). Abstract can be read here: http://www.pnas.org/content/107/7/2763 More discussions are available through various media press comments (easily found by Googling with keys: Murchison, Phillippe Schmitt-Kopplin). May I just insist that the incredible number of molecules we had found originated from the fact that the screening was not targeted. Also we never claimed that any of the hundreds of thousands of molecules we detected had a pre-biotic origin, something that seems to provoke debate in the media. Our work just shows there's no shortage of molecules on meteorites in general, and in Murchison, taken as reference in particular, that origin-of-life researchers could investigate... Those familtar with Ensisheim shows might remember that Philippe (Phil) was our new enthroned Ensisheim meteorite guardian in 2008. Phil is the head of the lab in Neuherberg (Munich) where all the measurements (combined FTICR-MS,NMR GC) were run. We all, co-authors, are deeply indebted to him for his discern and faith in initiating that challenging research and for his expertise that caused its success beyond any of our initial expectations. So far we have recorded tons of other data on many more other meteorites. More exciting and weird results are coming continuously; thay will be published in the months to come. My best wishes, Zelimir Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com a écrit : Darren and List Thank you for the read up on Murchison meteorite on how scientist have identified over 14,000 compounds and counting. While we are on the topic of Murchison meteorite, I came across an article on line that points out these interesting facts and finds on the Murchison as quoted from the article as follows Presolar grains
[meteorite-list] AD - new meteorite listings - howardite
Hey, hope everyone is doing well. A few things to offer: I have listed some nice meteorite samples on ebay, you can see them here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 There are a few really nice samples that come with museum labels. I will also be listing many more meteorites over the next couple days as I am trying to raise the funds needed to secure the building I am going to use for the museum and for other costs of opening it. There is also a really nice possible Howardite, classification is currently underway. I will offer good prices on samples sold pre classification. Pics available on request. 2 large end cuts 150+/- grams each are currently available. Same stuff that I posted thin section images from yesterday. contact me off list for more on this. I still have some astronomy lasers (green and blue) for sale, $25 each. (see website for pics) Meteorite thin section coffee mugs for $12 each, these are AWESOME. (11oz ceramic mugs with full wrap around images of thin sections) Pics available on request, 6 to choose from, discount on full sets. Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a good day! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Really nice thin section images
Hi to all, testing is underway on a new NWA Howardite (possible) I got a few thin section images from testing today, I know many of you enjoy seeing these so I thought I would share. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA_725xXP.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA_725xXP.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA_325xXP.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA_125xXP.jpg End cut of one of the stones http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3261.jpg Hope everyone is doing well! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ISO - used Meteorite books
Hi to all! I am looking for used but usable copies of a few of the more notable meteorite books. I would also like to get a copy of a comet strikes the earth the meteorite does not need to be attached. I am wanting to have a few books for use by visitors to the museum once it opens. Thanks, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Superbowl deals
Hi to all. I know many are getting ready for the big game, Im hoping for a Colts victory. I thought I would toss an offer out to you all. I have an awesome .31g Karoonda with museum provenance listed on ebay currently. From now until the end of the game, I will offer it to the first person who wants it for only $225 including shipping! Great deal for someone wanting more then just a speck, and with great provenance! Also, 15% off any ebay item currently listed on ebay, until the game is over if the sale is off ebay. First come basis. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lorton Meteorite
But at the same point and time, who was liable for payment for the damage caused? Should they not be the ones to keep the material that caused the damage as they had to pay for the repair, they should keep what did it. The woman who was hit by the meteorite did not have the legal right to keep it, if I recall correctly, it was also a fall and not a find. The soil has been shown many times over to include what is ON the soil and often under it (unless you live in states that only allow you ownership to a certain depth and no mineral/mining rights) Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Sat, 2/6/10, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lorton Meteorite To: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov, meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 12:57 AM Jeff, As always you say the right thing but I would like to see this litigated in this case due to the fact that these Doctors were in legal possession of the real estate and this is a Fall and not a find. These laws only mention finds and our hobby thinks there is a difference. As I asked before. This landed inside not on the dirt so it is not part of the soil which is very specifically stated in the law. It says the meteorite becomes part of the soil it was found in. Well this did not end up in soil. It ended up sitting on legally rented property. What if it hit a car and landed in the trunk of the car? Falls need laws if for no other reason than to help buyers such as the Smithsonian make an informed buying decision. Here is an interesting article. http://brightcoast.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/meteorite-law-are-tenants-lost-in-space/ And yet another link here shows the actual law as written in an abstract; http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=2002M%26PSB..375Sdb_key=ASTpage_ind=3data_type=GIFtype=SCREEN_VIEWclassic=YES -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote: I'm puzzled by why so many of you seem to think the Smithsonian is playing such an active role in this. First of all, the meteorite was brought to them for identification; the SI did not make some kind of power play to get it. And there is no indication that they are making a power play to keep it. From talking to their people right after the fall and when I visited this week, it's clear that they would be pleased if the meteorite ended up in the National Meteorite Collection. But I have not seen or read any evidence that they are in any way fighting to prevent others from getting it back, legally or politically. People should just relax and wait to see how this plays out before jumping to conclusions. Jeff On 2010-02-05 9:39 PM, Phil Whitmer wrote: Hiya Carl, gun lovers and haters: I was merely stating the law as it now stands. If a meteorite falls on your property, you own it. An open and shut case. If the Smithsonian wants to appeal to the Supreme Court, the Court could possibly rule that current meteorite laws are unconstitutional. It's extremely unlikely they would hear the case. It's highly unlikely even a Circuit judge would strike down current meteorite laws as unconstitutional. Or any judge for that matter. The Smithsonian has the lawyers and the funding of the federal gov't backing them, they could try to argue the laws are unconstitutional, highly unlikely as there is practically no chance they would win. What they could do is go straight to the President and get either a presidential decree or have the Justice Dep't write some memos like they did legalizing torture. Again not a chance. More likely they could get a Congressman to introduce a bill changing the meteorite laws, but it would never make it out of the first round of sub-committes. Possession might be nine tenths of the law, but I'll be dollars to donuts the Smithsonian gives it back. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Museum in NC coming soon!
Ive got great news today! I have been working on a project to open a meteorite and space museum here in my home state of North Carolina. After much effort, I am happy to announce that by this time next year, It will be open! I am looking to offer the schools in my area with free admission and educational tours. With luck, I will be able to introduce many school age children to the wonderful world of meteorites. I will be able to allow hands on learning and a place where not just kids, but anyone can get a chance to hold and learn about meteorites. The museum will be filled with my personal collection and a few samples that private collectors have been kind enough to offer on loan. I will update as it progresses and as the opening date draws near. I am looking to plan a grand opening that I hope will bring some of you this way. Thought I would share the news, hope everyone is doing good. Greg C. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lorton, Smithsonian and cool scientists thinking
Steve wrote: “I am not sure of all of the reasons, and who made the actual decision to deny us and our audience the opportunity to see it first hand, but it seems that because the Smithsonian now has their own new cable TV network, and as such it is now their policy to not give any competing TV networks any access to shooting any of their stuff in their collections.” I may be wrong, but is the Smithsonian not supposed to be owned by the tax payers and US citizens? If this is the case, would we not legally be able to photograph and document items there as long as damage was not done? Perhaps some of the issue here is possible profit you/others could make off what you/they are doing and the fact the Smithsonian would not get a piece of the pie? I have never had dealings directly with them, but I have to say that I would rather a meteorite be there on display for all then for it to be cut into pieces and spread into a private collectors market with only a 20g/20% deposit available for the public to see. I do think some should be made public and Im sure some will eventually make its way into the market, most likely for the a good amount more then the $100 per gram price collectors would have likely been asked to pay (based on the trend recent falls have seen) It all depends on who offers them something they want that is not NWA material I guess. For all anyone knows, there may have been more found, just not made public yet... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote: From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Lorton, Smithsonian and cool scientists thinking To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 4:39 PM Steve wrote: “I am not sure of all of the reasons, and who made the actual decision to deny us and our audience the opportunity to see it first hand, but it seems that because the Smithsonian now has their own new cable TV network, and as such it is now their policy to not give any competing TV networks any access to shooting any of their stuff in their collections.” and “Apparently, other networks have had severe access challenges lately in wanting to get footage of other national treasures since the Smithsonian cable network was formed. In our case it seems to be a real shame as it would have generated great PR for both our TV show and for the Smithsonian and for meteorites in general.” Having had a little dealing with the Smithsonian in matters, unrelated to meteorites, the impression that got is that with continuing cuts in their federal funding, the Smithsonian has had to more and more rely on generating income from private sources. One result of this is that in order to generate income to support the operation of the museum, many activities have been commercialized, including the selling of exclusive, first come, media rights to certain newsworthy events. I doubt that any “prejudice against the collecting community” has anything to do with your treatment. It is simply that in order to generate income from private sources to replace federal budget cuts, they have sold the media rights to “discoveries,” like the Lorton meteorite, to a private company. I suspect that it is an outside company, not the Smithsonian, who now make the decisions on such matters. I suspect that a number of the people at the Smithsonian are as unhappy as you are with this state of affairs. However, it would be a bad career move for anyone to either openly or privately disagree with, express any displeasure of, or violate the contracts / agreements that they have with various outside companies. This growing commercilization and turning research into commodities managed by outside companies is a growing trend ion many museums. Go read: Caveat Venditor? Museum Merchandising, Nonprofit Commercialization, and the Case of the Metropolitan Museum in New York by Stephen Teopler in “International Journal of Voluntary and Nonprofit Organizations” at: http://www.springerlink.com/content/9229h92302851283/ MUSEUM MERCHANDISING: AN EXPLORATION OF ITS USES AND LIMITATIONS at: http://museumstudies.si.edu/Fellowships/toepler.html The cost of journal articles, like the above one, is another aspect of this problem. While working at an archaeological site, which I was working at and shall remain nameless, some friends of mine were prohibited from taking pictures of the site while visiting me because a well-known, national organization that was funding the dig had exclusive media rights as part of the funding agreement. Even I, theoretically was prohibited from taking my own personal pictures. However, since I actually worked there, people
