Re: [meteorite-list] New Met Bulletin approvals - 29 new stones fromNWA and North America.
Hey Mike Thanks for keeping us updated on new approvals. Do me a favor? Keep an eye out for NWA 231 :-) Cheers John Cabassi - Johnno IMCA #2125 www.MeteoriteJunction.com MeteoriteHQ.Com (still under construction) Twitter: @meteoritejohnno http://facebook.com/MeteoriteJohnno -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:22 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Met Bulletin approvals - 29 new stones fromNWA and North America. Greetings Bulletin Watchers, There are 29 new approvals in the Met Bulletin today. This includes many OC's from NWA and North America. There are also a few interesting types - ureilite, angrite, EL6, etc. Linkage - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg =Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=1pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0 Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rare earth magnets and young un's
G'Day Doug and Ed The compass is a good idea, but I think we might be looking at something that's commonly available in any household. I was thinking more of a needle on a string or a paper clip John Cabassi - Johnno IMCA #2125 www.MeteoriteJunction.com MeteoriteHQ.Com (still under construction) Twitter: @meteoritejohnno http://facebook.com/MeteoriteJohnno -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ed Deckert Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 6:28 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare earth magnets and young un's Hi Doug, Would using a compass instead of a magnet be a better way to go? The needle of the compass ought to deflect very easily if the child swallowed a rare earth magnet, I would think. Regards, Ed - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rare earth magnets and young un's Hi List Been having quite a hard time lately and no time to post or even follow my most favorite-ist group! http://www.kptv.com/story/17070382/3-year-old-swallows-37-magnets-and- survives Saw this article and it is a good chance for sayin' hi, and at the same time, if you are around any Jughaids n Taters toddlers that are natural hunters to be, these are the symptoms to keep in mind if they discover any magnets, not to be blindsided and in a terrible pinch - one magnet can do it. --Not suggesting this - but if medical care is not easily accessible: A quick test, *only in experienced, cool, calm and patient hands* - a magnet suspended by a thread's deflection will do it for magnets and many magnetic metals, but with the utmost precaution not to get to close since there is not much flesh in between such little bodies and you could actually cause a perforation if it is another rare earth or a sharp piece of ferromagnetic metal. --Better yet, file some iron into a baggie first, if there is the possibility of a rare earth and use it to scan their digestive tract, before trying the magnet on the string. A swallow disaster is good to think about ahead of time, since having forethought does wonders to quell panick and mistakes. It's no different than you would expect from your employer's health treatment policies if there are risks in the workplace, even if only a grandkid ocassional comes by. The fast reaction in the link of this family and doctor's decision to over diagnose a seemingly minor situation saved this future meteorite hunting little girl's life! A single magnet will likely pass; but two ingested separately is bad news all around. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap
G'Day Sonny and List I appreciate that update Sonny, I did not know that this was the norm. PVC can become very destructive if not used accordingly. Even though you cap it, if it's not glued, the caps can be removed. I like Yanan's suggestion on those already in place. But I find PVC pipes as an indicator to claim coordinates a poor use, they are flexible, very hard to drive into the ground. Yes, maybe they're easy to see from a distance being white, but there must be an alternative. I'd hate to see any legitimate prospector's claim be torn down because of this issue. There's lots of alternatives... Treated stakes, they last a long time, they're solid, a little bit of paint (red, white blue) or maybe just alternate your colors to your claim. It would solve a lot of problems. But everybody using white PVC does not solve the problem, but hey there's no problems only solutions. Alternative markers as I said earlier, treated posts 2 inches, hammered into the ground with some color coding. Your choice. I respect the miners, I respect their claims. I'm not going to pull out a PVC pipe because it's not covered; because it initially was but some less fortunate person has decided to remove the cover, for what means, I don't know. But claim markers are important. I'm fond of all parties living on this earth, be it birds, bacteria, plant life, the good old homosapien. There's enough room to live harmoniously as long as we think. Sometimes we obliverate the miniscule. Birds have every right to live on this planet, they play an important part. They transport seeds to other continents either on their feathers or through their droppings. It's a never ending ecological cycle. We then have those that are inclined to live within their confinements that don't migrate. Those are the ones that we should be concerned about. I I think this whole thread has been very informative. One that I have never considered before. Just my $1.50 AU John Cabassi - Johnno IMCA #2125 www.MeteoriteJunction.com MeteoriteHQ.Com (still under construction) Twitter: @meteoritejohnno http://facebook.com/MeteoriteJohnno -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:35 PM To: mina...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap Hi Mark and List, I wasn't implying that you were anti-mining No worries, I never thought that you were implying that. Sorry if my post seemed that way. You are right about the man made hazards. There have been a number of tragic deaths in Nevada from people falling into abandoned open pit mines. What a cool story about saving the deer. How on earth did you ever get him out? Best Regards, Sonny -Original Message- From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 11:56 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap I agree with you Sonny - I wasn't implying that you were anti-mining. So sorry to anybody who took it that way. I agree the pipes shouldn't be used, even if they are legal. I read the original article before writing my response but I missed the part that said some caps have been falling off, but I do see that mentioned this new article. That's a shame. My caps were pretty tight because I've had to remove them to correct bad info that I carved into them. Still, many of mine have probably fallen off by now too. Another problem not mentioned is that the PVC beaks down and the pipes break, creating new openings... I've seen a lot of broken ones in the field. It's ultimately up to the regulators to define what markers are allowed, and if anybody doesn't comply, they will have to waste their time and money doing it right because their claim is invalid. That should be motivation enough to do it right going forward. They also say they can face fines through the migratory bird treaty act. But the problem is all the historic, abandoned markers. How do you fine people for something that was a condoned legal practice? I think the only way to get the problem fixed is for people like us to pull them out one by one when we happen upon them. But be careful, this a state issue because most states define how to mark federal mining claims. I think the posts are still legal in some states, and you could get in trouble for removing them. It may just be allowed in Nevada, so ask your local BLM office about it if you're in another state. I will inquire here in AZ. I'd like to point out that while thousands of claim markers are a huge hazard for birds, there are other hazards too. Litter is a huge problem and it's been illegal for a long time. The vast majority of the claims were staked with the
Re: [meteorite-list] Professor Colin Pillinger lecture - Stones from the sky: A heaven-sent opportunity to talk about science
G'Day Martin and List I finally got a chance to watch this. I was very impressed even though it was an hour plus long, well worth it. Thank you for sharing that. John Cabassi IMCA #2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Goff Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:51 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Professor Colin Pillinger lecture - Stones from the sky: A heaven-sent opportunity to talk about science Hi all, Please see the link below to a webcast of Professor Colin Pillingers lecture to the Royal Society recently. (http://royalsociety.org/events/2012/stones-from-the-sky/) Professor Pillinger was the recipient of the Michael Faraday prize in recognition of his excellence in communicating science. The lecture is called 'Stones from the sky - A heaven sent opportunity to talk about science' For those who dont know about Professor Pillinger, here is a lowdown: 'Colin Pillinger is Professor of Planetary Sciences at the Open University. His research interests include designing unique instruments to analyse extraterrestrial samples. During his forty year career he has made more than a thousand contributions to scientific literature, and also found time to be one of Britain's foremost science communicators, contributing dozens of popular articles in newspapers and magazines as well as giving hundreds of public lectures. After analysing a number of meteorites from Mars and finding tantalising evidence of the existence of life there, he conceived the Beagle 2 mission to land on the Red Planet to confirm his discoveries. Throughout the project he filled over thirty notebooks recording the daily happenings which form the basis of his autobiographical account of the mission - My life on Mars. ' Colin Pillinger is friends with Derek and Katrina Gray, the owners of the Wold Cottage and has a particular interest in the Wold Cottage meteorite and in Sir Edward Topham who was the owner of the land at the time the meteorite fell. The webcast is an hour long but its worth watching, a really good intro to the history of the study of meteorites from a definite personality in the field. Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson
G'Day Chris I never want it to end. Cheers, John Cabassi - Johnno IMCA #2125 www.MeteoriteJunction.com MeteoriteHQ.com (still under construction) Twitter: @meteoritejohnno http://facebook.com/MeteoriteJohnno -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Chris Spratt Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:57 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson When does the show end? Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 969 LL6/7 Chondrite
G'Day Dirk, Mike, List and wonderful Tom I agree with Mike. It's great to see Tom's great images and it's really nice of you to post his links. I have missed him, not just a lot but a hell of a lot. He's really passionate for what he does. Keep it up Tom! And thanks Dirk Cheers. John Cabassi - Johnno IMCA #2125 www.MeteoriteJunction.com MeteoriteHQ.com (still under construction) Twitter: @meteoritejohnno http://facebook.com/MeteoriteJohnno -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone Ironworks Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:14 PM To: drtanuki Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 969 LL6/7 Chondrite Hi Dirk, Thanks for sharing these and pass my regards along to Tom. Nobody does stained glass like Tom. :) Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 2/5/12, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear List, More beauties by Tom Phillips: http://tomphillipsrockart.blogspot.com/2012/02/nwa-969-ll67-chondrite. html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite, oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams.
G'Day Michael, Michael and whoever has now and List What an incredible day. That post by Jim Wooddell blew me away and then just to up the ante. Michael J. posts one of the most amazing images of an awesome Martian. I know you replied Michael F. that it's not yours anymore, but it reminded me of one other meteorite that I don't have which I have always wanted because of the jet black, glassy fusion crust, Puerto Lapice. Thank you very much for such a delightful day of images. Cheers Humbly, John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Tissint Martian Meteorite,oriented mass. Private collection. 968 grams. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-mass.html __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn, Frank and List Wow. Definitely pays to be educated. I appreciate everyone's input and I truly appreciate it. I stand corrected and now I'm researching where I went wrong. Thank you everyone. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:51 PM To: Frank Cressy; John.L.Cabassi; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE Hello All If you like, take a look at this link which provides a graph of the 13 meteorite. http://flic.kr/p/bf9EYZ Shawn IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net To: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass
Re: [meteorite-list] Forest City meteorite, Fell May 2, 1890, Winnebago County, Iowa.
That is awesome! Great pic. Thanks to both Mike's -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of ROCKS FROM SPACE Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:41 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Forest City meteorite, Fell May 2, 1890,Winnebago County, Iowa. http://www.rocksfromspace.org/forest_city.html ROCKS FROM SPACE | METEORITES AND METEORITE HUNTERS __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No Meteorite Men followers?
G'Day Ruben, Craig and List You can always report it as a miscategorized ad. And as for you Craig, I always thought you were the starter of Craig's List, now I really have to be careful ;-)) Happy New Year to Everyone Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Craig Moody Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:51 PM To: mrmeteor...@gmail.com; MetList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] No Meteorite Men followers? In other words...if you know what you are talking about, I don't want to hear from you, in case you burst my bubble. LoL Craig (In no way associated with Craig's list) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:09:27 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] No Meteorite Men followers? Hi all, I check craigslist every so often and couldn't help posting this listing. However, Meteorite Men followers need not contact him - whatever that means http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mat/2768791461.html -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year!!
G'Day Greg and All There's no way I can beat that comment. But I wish all of you the very best and a safe New Year. And I hope this new year is going to be the best because last year sucked big time! Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year!! Happy New Year!! I was going to create a digital card like I did for Christmas, but just no time so my words will have to do: My thought for the card was going to be a cosmic visual of a burst of bright light in space as a new star is born, all kinds of universe-like stuff... with Happy New Year Be safe, talk next year!! :) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LOST METEORITE
Now that is the funny of the year. I'm sorry Count, I know you must be stressed, but you must admit Ruben has a sense of humor, even when things are down Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:15 PM To: Count Deiro Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] LOST METEORITE Wow, sorry to hear that. On a positive note, my 62 gram Cat Mountain end cut just went up in value : ) I'm only kidding If it makes you feel better this seems to happen every year in December. I think it was last year Mike Miller said the same - and his did eventually arrivelate, but in good shape. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Seasons Greetings List, It seems UPS has lost an individual CAT MOUNTAIN meteorite weighing 162 +- grams that was shipped December 5th. from Las Vegas by second day air delivery, with signature required, to Tucson. Several other shipments were sent at the same time to other locations and all these have arrived. UPS has finished their initial tracking trace with no luck in finding the package which is in a small cardboard box within a siver grey vinyl UPS envelope. Please check the provenance of any CAT MOUNTAIN material being offered after Dec. 5th.. Anyone having any information, or helpful advice, please contact me off List. (No recriminations please...I'm getting my butt kicked enough.) Thank you, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illusion of sliding comet
G'Day Rob, Jim and List Really enjoyed that Rob and thank you Jim for stepping up and posting it on your site. As for the slipping, that was intriguing, something I had not thought about. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson, Robert D. Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:19 PM To: Jim Wooddell; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Illusion of sliding comet Hi Jim, The slide you're seeing is due to our (or rather STEREO's) changing perspective on the comet relative to the background. Remember that we (and the two STEREOs) are in orbit about the sun, too, so there are two motions going on. Our observing platform is sliding to the right relative to the sun, coupled with the comet's parabolic orbit coming up from the south. --Rob -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell [mailto:nf11...@npgcable.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 PM To: Matson, Robert D.; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi Rob, No problemglad to do it. What is interestingor am I looking at it wrong, it appears to be slipping as if in a cross windlink an airplane slipping to make a landing ??? Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fun challenge: predict the future NWA
G'Day Richard and list I vote for NWA 231. It's been a passion, still being classified and it's time for it to come to light. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=nwa+231sfor=namesants=; falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=nam ecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normaltablecode=31470 Out of all my meteorites, this I have paid the utmost attention to. Low number. We have the main mass and I'd like to bring closure to it. Anthony Love at App State is doing the classification Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Montgomery Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:22 PM To: 'Meteorite-list List' Subject: [meteorite-list] Fun challenge: predict the future NWA Hi List, Seems like a bit of a slow news cycle (accept for Dawn, and Lovejoy, and tonight's shower), so I'm throwing out a fun challenge: Seems like yesterday that NWAs were numbered in the 3000 range; we turn once-around and we're mostly through 6000+; SO...considering the general concensus that NWAs are 'drying up out there' ...what number NWA will be the final classified by the end of 2012; and what K-number will be the last?? Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204
G'Day List Just helping out a friend. -- Hi John, I'm having a hard time getting this photo I took of the lunar Eclipse on the Met List. I'd love to share. If you could get it on the list for me I'd appreciate it very much. best wishes, Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 Looking West down Allen Street, Tombstone, Arizona http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Jim%20Shorten/?actio n=viewcurrent=7d77ed15.pbw --- Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204
Sorry for the double post. Trying to correct the broken link http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Jim%20Shorten/?actio n=viewcurrent=7d77ed15.pbw -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John.L.Cabassi Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: theemerald...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 G'Day List Just helping out a friend. -- Hi John, I'm having a hard time getting this photo I took of the lunar Eclipse on the Met List. I'd love to share. If you could get it on the list for me I'd appreciate it very much. best wishes, Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 Looking West down Allen Street, Tombstone, Arizona http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Jim%20Shorten/?actio n=viewcurrent=7d77ed15.pbw --- Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204
Sorry for the double post. Trying to correct the broken link http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/?action=viewcu rrent=7d77ed15.pbw -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John.L.Cabassi Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: theemerald...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 G'Day List Just helping out a friend. -- Hi John, I'm having a hard time getting this photo I took of the lunar Eclipse on the Met List. I'd love to share. If you could get it on the list for me I'd appreciate it very much. best wishes, Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 Looking West down Allen Street, Tombstone, Arizona http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Jim%20Shorten/?actio n=viewcurrent=7d77ed15.pbw --- Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse Jim Shorten IMCA #6204
Apologies once again Jim and all. The link seems to be completely broken. Here are the individual images Cheers John http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/eclipse2.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/eclipse1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/eclipse3.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/eclipse4.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/JimS/eclipse5.jpg G'Day List Just helping out a friend. -- Hi John, I'm having a hard time getting this photo I took of the lunar Eclipse on the Met List. I'd love to share. If you could get it on the list for me I'd appreciate it very much. best wishes, Jim Shorten IMCA #6204 Looking West down Allen Street, Tombstone, Arizona Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Images of 'The' Lunar Eclipse
G'Day Greg That was great, so pristine and to the point. I actually ventured out at 4.30 this morning with everything covered, well I thought I did. Ended up breaking the leg on my tripod, had to shoot from the hip. Cold temperatures, harassed by cops, a pathetic shoot but here's a couple of the best from the worst. http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/?action=viewcurrent =6e4a81cf.pbw South side of LAX Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:59 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of 'The' Lunar Eclipse Good Afternoon All, Here is a link to my images of 'the' lunar eclipse: http://www.lunarrock.com/LunarEclipse.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAY ANSWER
Congratulations Mike and thanks for the Pop Quiz Shawn -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:57 AM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAY ANSWER Hello Listers I would like to thank everyone that sent in their answers for the BLACK FRIDAY POP QUIZ. The question was Please tell me how many whole individual meteorites were found at the Gebel Kamil crater and the surrounding area? Answer There was one whole individual piece that was found at the Gebel Kamil crater site. It was reported to be the main mass weighing in at 83kg. This could be an indication that the meteor stayed intact while entering into the atmosphere and had minor separation till it met its match when it came into contact with the surface of the Earth, making a 45m diameter crater. Scientist at the site recovered over 4000 specimens great than or equal to 10g, totaling over 1700kg. Out of the thousands of specimens collected by the scientists, they were able to take half of what was collected at the end of the 2010 field servery expedition back to Cairo. The other half was left behind due to cargo space. So all in all, science got a great amount of the meteorite to study. But I would also have to say the science also is within the cater because it is still very close to its pristine state the day the event happened. I would like to say that there were only nine Listers the sent in the correct answer so I will be rewarding the first Lister that sent in the correct answer and that is Galactic Stone Ironworks. Thank you again for everyone that sent in an answer and keep an eye for another installment of POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html [meteorite-list] BLACK FRIDAY POP QUIZ SUPER SIZED Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Nov 25 18:10:55 EST 2011 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Black Friday=Fresh Fusion Crust - AD * Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - 30% OFF Everything Sale - Steep Discounts for Meteorites, Collector Kits, and more! * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers, I hope everyone had a great holiday yesterday and are not in commas today from all the turkey and ham :) Here is another installment of POP QUIZ FRIDAYS but SUPER SIZED! Name of the GAME Be the 10th Lister to email me with the correct answer and you will win a free NWA 998 micro LOT, NAKHLA micro, L'AIGLE mirco. Question: Please tell me how many whole individual meteorites were found at the Gebel Kamil crater and the surrounding area? GOOD LUCK Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Black Friday=Fresh Fusion Crust - AD * Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - 30% OFF Everything Sale - Steep Discounts for Meteorites, Collector Kits, and more! * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some interesting meteorite falls of the lasttwo centuries
G'Day Phil and Anne Very interesting. But as you know, New Zealand is one of our outer Islands. So basically, it is an Australian fall. And I would like to remind all those heading to the mainland, the last one to leave please turn the lights out All jokes aside, I do love New Zealand. I have relatives there and lived there and worked there for a considerable time. It's a great country, especially the South Island. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:39 PM To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Some interesting meteorite falls of the lasttwo centuries Thank you Phil for this list. And thank you to all of you who told me about typos and other errors, and I'll fix those ASAP. But now I have a question: Phil's list includes this Fall: Ellerslie, June 6 2004 in Auckland, New Zealand, and I remember Joel Schiff writing about it. However in the Met. Bulletin, Ellerslie is listed as an L5 found in Queensland, Australia, in 1905. And the only Fall listed for New Zealand is Mokoia. So... an error??? 2 Ellerslie? And what happened of the one that fell in New Zealand? Anyone knows Thanks. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/22/2011 10:10:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com writes: 2004 06 12Ellerslie, suburban1.3-kg (2.8-lb) 7-cm x 13-cm [19] Auckland, N.Z. meteorite broke through roof of house and bounced off sofa __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stat. Speaking / killer Hammers
Michael You just beat me to Carancas :-) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:05 AM To: Met. Anne Black; mrmeteor...@gmail.com; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stat. Speaking / killer Hammers I am responding using Anne's responses, as they seemed as informative As the best of the bunch: REGARDING METEORITES THAT STUCK LIVING CREATURES: Other than the most famous of all, the 1947 Sylacauga hitting Hulitt Hodges and leaving a huge bruise on her side, the photo of which is famous, there have been other documented Hammers which nailed living critters: (NOTE: the list below does not include some of the biblical references nor the Roman report of a legion being killed) 1860 New Concord Ohio meteorite struck and killed a colt. 1908 TUNGUSKA, Russia killed countless forest animals which inevitably inhabited the remote forest which was ripped asunder when eighty million trees were blasted, left lying on their sides in a radial pattern over an area of eight hundred square miles. 1911 Nakhla, Egypt fall reportedly killed a dog. Kevin Kichinka wrote a thorough article concluding that the rumor was false. However, in a series of heated debates on The List, Between Kevin and Ron Balke. The latter held his own, presenting credible arguments that left at least a crack of doubt as to the possibility of regarding the issue. (These rousing debates can be read in the List Archives of Meteorite Central). 1972 Valera is documented up the yin yang (Darryl Pitt, I believes, owns the original, signed and notarized papers on this one). 1992 Dutch Meteorite Society photo of Ugandan boy struck by and holding a 3g Mbale meteorite, the force of which had been considerably diminished having passed through a banana tree before striking the boy: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MbaleBoyW.jpg 2003 Park Forrest fall killed a minimum of 2 termites when striking the Garza house. An entomologist attested to the death taking place at the time of the impact. 2007 Carancas Peru impact shock force killed a ewe and a llama. ADDENDUM: 5. Q. Has any animal ever found a meteorite? 2010 Mifflin, Wisconson, a 198g stone was recovered by Sonny Clary's dog, Brix Best wishes, Michael On 11/19/11 6:25 PM, Met. Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: A few answers below. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ In a message dated 11/19/2011 6:46:16 PM Mountain Standard Time, mrmeteor...@gmail.com writes: Hi all, I know there are a lot of people on this forum that know meteorite statistics way better than I do. So I thought I'd ask for a little help. In a week or two I'll be doing an interview for a brand new TV Show about stats - my episode will obviously be about meteorite statistics. With any luck these questions will go to a scientist (and not me) and I can just concentrate on the hunting aspect - which is why I'll really be there. Here are a few basic questions that I should probably know. But I'm not sure if I do. So, if you're feeling like helping - send me an email with the correct answers. 1. Q. How many meteorites hit the ground per year? A. On average about 1 per square mile per thousand years. About 20,000 to 40,000 per year. Are you looking at the planet or ground only? 2/3 of the planet is water. I think I'll let rob Matson or Sterling answer that one. 2. Q. Has anyone ever been hit by a meteorite? A. I only know of Ann Hodges - Sylacauga, Alabama, USA A young boy was hit lightly by a Mbale fragment ricochet off a tree. There were others but mostly fiction. 3. Q. Has any animal ever been hit by a meteorite? A. I'm not sure... there are stories of a dog and a cow being hit...but? Valera did kill a cow. New Concord might have kill a young horse, but not verifiable, and the Nakhla dog is most likely fiction. 4. Q. How often does a city ending meteorite (think Canyon Diablo) strike the earth? A. ? How often? I don't know (Sterling) but Sikhote-Alin could have done a lot of damage if it had impacted a city. And how big does it have to be to be a city? 5. Q. Has any animal ever found a meteorite? A. Sorry, I just threw that one in to see if you were paying attentionlol You are on your own on that one. 6. Q. How much in weight does the earth gain per year by all the meteorites that enter our atmosphere? Including all, from tiny grain of sand meteorites to large bunker-busters. A. No clue.. (Sterling Rob Matson?) -- Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more
Re: [meteorite-list] AD Lot 15 kg of sheap chondrites
Baaa, ba Sorry, couldn't resist that! -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Btisam Sadi Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:34 PM To: list meteorites Subject: [meteorite-list] AD Lot 15 kg of sheap chondrites Hi to all I have lot (about 15 kg)of sheap chondrites meteorite for sale if interested feel free to contact me offlist. for pictures and price Best regards __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
G'Day Mike Nice big box of Arm Hammer Baking Soda would be spectacular Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:19 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target! Hi Listees, Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY. If you are aggravated or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading and delete this post now. Ok, you were warned. Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark. This has made me a bit silly and a pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain... Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a certain object? Now you can find out. I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth. It is weathered. It is ugly. It's probably an H5 chondrite. It weighs 851 grams (1.87 pounds). Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE : http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for destruction! Here is how this will work : I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered by this meteorite. Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard and place it on the ground. I will set up a camera to capture the resulting mayhem on video. I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target object. Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around the world to watch. Some rules about nominating objects : 1) I am a man of very modest means. This means I cannot, and will not, smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields, priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to acquire. The objects nominated should be common items that are easily available and inexpensive. 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party affiliation). 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity and smashability. 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above. You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping if you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you. Let the nominations begin! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA
G'Day Michael, Darryl and Ed. I agree. I wish this happened more often. We have enough anger and hostility in this world without adding to it. No one is perfect, but we can try and overcome our shortcomings. My hat is off to all of you. Friends need to be cherished. Enough said and let's get back to what we love, meteorites. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ed Deckert Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:28 PM To: Michael Blood; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Michael, It takes a big man to come out and publicly admit in great detail that he that made mistakes, as well as making an apology not only to Darryl, but to those in the IMCA and the Met List who may have been offended as well. You are indeed a man of character for coming out and taking full responsibility for your mistakes. I applaud your honesty and humility. My faith in you is firm, and I hope that others will feel the same way. I also hope that Darryl will accept your apology as it was offered most sincerely. I hope that the two of you can be friends once again, and not just for the duration of a beer in Tucson. Best Regards, Ed Deckert IMCA #8911 - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA This is my final statement re the earlier post About claims made by Darryl Pitt and myself: Those interested see below: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Falderal.html -- ³It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.² __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Almahata Sitta still giving up secrets
G'Day Linton, Appreciate that post and it's good to see after many I've read that Richard actually gets some credit Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Linton Rohr Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 2:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Almahata Sitta still giving up secrets Greetings listoids. I came across this well written article on Almahata Sitta at the Universe Today, and thought it worthy of sharing. Enjoy! http://www.universetoday.com/89656/the-asteroid-that-fell-to-earth-meteo rites-from-2008-tc3-still-giving-up-their-secrets/ I hope this long link will work. Linton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Photos - Munich Show 2011
G'Day Hanno Congratulations on the great report. Thank you very much. Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Hanno Strufe Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:58 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite_s...@yahoogroups.com; meteoritewo...@yahoogroups.com; meteoritecollect...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Photos - Munich Show 2011 Hello, the Munich Show 2011 is over. This year we had more visitors than in 2010 during all 3 days. On meteorite I have not seen much news. I think the freshest meteorite material on the show was from Mike Farmer with his Thika. All profi dealers were attending the show as the last years. You could realy see, that there was less material from NWA available than last year. For sure there were some nice specimens also achondrites offered, but absolut not to compare with that from some years ago. The prices are high. Individuals of ordinary chondrites what would not sell 3 years ago will now be bought and the collector is happy to get this. This year there was unfortunatly no meeting on the friday evening. But I have to say that it was again very nice to meet all the friends and collectors during the show. That we had lots of fun you can see on the photos. Take a look on my website or use this link: http://www.strufe.net/0334af9a5a0cf8e1d/0334af9f900966f01/0334af9f90096f 106/index.php All the best Hanno Strufe Langenbergstrasse 32 D - 66954 Pirmasens Germany Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225105 E-Mail: h63str...@aol.com WEB: www.strufe.net Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: # 4267 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD
H Old post, same question http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg97258 .html Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark's Meteorites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:56 AM To: cdtuc...@cox.net Cc: Sterling K. Webb; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one: What came first. The chicken or the egg? Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before hens :) Mark Crawford On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Sterling, Okay. I have some real questions for you. What came first. The chicken or the egg? Seriously! Also, Even if your statements are true. Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive? And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already here? Thanks, Carl Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One. There is NO missing link between Ape and Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub, not a tree. Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens of so-called species. If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is it from ALL of them? For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis? Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes. Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of the Missing Link is one. Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary except for good judgment. Sterling K. Webb - -- - Original Message - From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing link. Science knows it will have to do better than that. Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in trees as I recall. Kirk. - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD On NWA 6077 / NWA 5400: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158 It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy the missing link between Ape and Man. Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ? Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge Encyclopedia More - AD Dear Meteorite List members, All auctions started @ .99 cents. All winning bidders will receive the New Outer Space Rocks 2012 magnetic meteorite calendar. One per person. All non-auction meteorites 10% OFF FREE SHIPPING. Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com HIGHLIGHTS of auctions include many new and exciting rare meteorite types professionally presented with provenance: NWA 6868 (5.3g Part Slice) Introducing a gorgeous Provisionally classified LL6 Breccia meteorite. Recrystallized, mostly poikiloblastic clasts containing rare relict chondrule fragments in a matrix of related debris. The presence of some recognizable RP chondrule fragments in NWA 6868 makes it a Type 6 - otherwise it would be an LL metachondrite. The necessary precautions were taken while cutting to ensure you have a nice stable specimen, this slice is polished on one side with no unsightly saw marks.( http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6868-LL6-Chondrite-Breccia-Meteorite-5-3g-PS
Re: [meteorite-list] Hard to Polish Meteorites - Any Ideas?
G'Day Mike and List It sounds like you've got a dilemma. I'd like to go into it, but I feel that those that have posted have given you good advice. One additional piece of information, who I've not been able to equal is Tom Phillips' ability to create a mirror surface on a meteorite. I kid you not, what I have in my possession would blow you away. It's a real shame that he doesn't post to the Met List anymore, but he has his reasons. I suppose it's similar to Michael Johnson's Picture of the Day, I respect Tom in all aspects. He has guided me, been by my side, he recommended me for the IMCA. Yes, I know I shouldn't be mentioning the IMCA here on the Met List but he deserves a lot more than what people give him. I will gladly put you in contact with him if you're not able to make correspondence. He definitely is impeccable in all his work. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Hard to Polish Meteorites - Any Ideas? Hi List, Some meteorites are hard to polish or just won't take a proper polish. Allende is one example that comes to mind readily. I've got an endcut of NWA 801 CR2 that came from the Hupe Collection. It has a wicked glossy polish on it that accentuates the chondrules. I'm working on some CR2 slices that need polishing and they won't take a decent polish. I can get the saw marks out, but beyond that I can't get a polish to take. The more I try, it just muddies up the matrix and subdues the features. The metal fleck and rings around the armored chondrules come out nicely, but the rest of the specimen becomes muddy and the chondrules fade into the matrix. What am I doing wrong? This particular CR2 is similar to NWA 801, but a little more weathered. Could that have something to do with it? Do the Hupes have some magic trade-secret technique? Or am I overlooking something obvious? I started out with 320 grit and then progressed to 400, 600, and 800 grit - hand sanding, dry, on wet/dry sandpaper. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friable meteorites
G'Day Master Doug Very interesting. Maybe you've stumbled upon force field. Could I be referring to shields up?? Plasma is fascinating, not as fascinating as Carancas, friable, fast and low and behold a crater. Will we ever solve this dilemma? Fraid knot. Sorry, that was a personal joke. ;-) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:03 PM To: gmh...@centurylink.net; mikest...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Friable meteorites Pete wrote: My question is how do they survive to the ground, to be found not as a dust, but in large pieces? Pete you're in the good company of David Rittenhouse who asked the same question in 1780. It's related to the other conundrum - How do they stay relatively cool inside while the surface becomes fused? That seemingly goes against common sense. And with Irons it is even better because at much lower temperatures, the Widmanstatten pattern would become annealled and lost. Yet there is a fusion region on irons that can be measured in fractions of a millimeter in some cases, and never much more. Somehow, and I'm winging it though I should know, the process of ablation is so darn efficient at removing the heat generated, much like we sweat, that the ablating surface provides a natural air conditioner for what's inside, just like a swamp cooler but absorbing even by an electric excitation mechanism which discharges the energy by transforming from electrical into light energy, hece the brightness observed/ But that still doesn't explain why going into a headwind of 10 miles per second everything doesn't rip apart. That must, and please correct me if I am wrong, be due to two or three factors working in concert on the forward face of the mass: 1. heat is wicked off immediately by the sublimation described above 2,3. the ablated material leaving the surface creates a plasma which either has a much lower frictional coefficient or creates a static layer of plasma travelling with the object which essential operates as a battering ram forming its own sacrificial layer, or both. Thus, the rock from space is like an insulated kernal traveling in its own form in place shields. When it finishes its high energy velocities it goes into free fall which reaches a maximum speed of under 400 mph in most cases much less which upon hitting a soft surface can survive. But if it hits a rock, you probably will be out of luck Carancas was different because it never reached free fall, and the impact was like whipping a piece of cement to belly flop against a hard wall of something. Even then, a portion of material in the aft section can survive. Try whipping pieces of chalk against a wall and you'll demonstrate a similar effect and perhaps get some cone of material stuck to the wall and a few crumbs falling back, along with a lot of dust. If it is large enough, and traveling in a herd of rocks which is also likely since they can become insultaed in their form in place sublimation shield, the first stones will be sacrificial but some in the back may survive. A possible explanation for Carancas. Or, just that their were some laggers that fell behind the main bolus and their higher surface area slowed them much more to better withsatand an impact. Kindest wishes Douig PS nice domain, Pete PPS another way to produce some friable meteorites is let them fall in water and see what happens and recover them later. After they dry out enough material may be leached (since they are porous) that they become much more friable. Care to give an example? -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com Cc: The List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 12:57 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Friable meteorites Hey All, I would have to suggest Nakhlites are one of the most friable meteorites. Best Regards, Greg Hupe On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, If you want to talk friable meteorites, take a look at Tagish Lake. It is one of my most favorite meteorites, it is the least dense meteorite known to man. Fascinating! -Michael in so. Cal. On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:06 PM, pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote: In a conversation with someone today, it was mentioned that Kilabo was extremely friable. Another really friable meteorite was Caracas, Peru. My question is how do they survive to the ground, to be found not as a dust, but in large pieces? How did they make a crator? Have the scientists figured out how the Caracas meteorite made such a large crator? Many questions and so little time to figure out what happened. Pete __ Visit the
Re: [meteorite-list] Any experts on meteorite Kiris blades
G'Day Everyone Once again Doug you amaze me and let's not forget Jalandahr. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/mkb1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/mkb2.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/mnb3.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/mkb4.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/mkb5.jpg Image credit to M. Manouchehr Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:15 PM To: dori...@embarqmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; dar...@dof3.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Any experts on meteorite Kiris blades Oops in my last post the words in CAPS were inadvertently left out: movie made the error of saying he rediscovered the Damascus process (which was reputed to be at the time) and that it was made of the rediscovered Damascus steel process USING AN IRON METEORITE. The needed to pick one or the other. I have not seen meteorites being called the source of the Bowie knife steel from any other place but who jknows when it comes to legends... -Original Message- From: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 4:46 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Any experts on meteorite Kiris blades I've never once seen a meteoritic iron kris blade, but I've see about a bazillion made of Damascus steel. Damascus sort of looks like a Widmansttaten pattern if you didn't know any better. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Any experts on meteorite Kiris blades Hi Mike, That's not quite accurate. Many are made of steel, Damascus steel, etc. On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote: I've seen a couple of these for sale on eBay in the past. They were not exactly like the one's in Rob's photos, but they were similar. (if I recall correctly) Rob, if you have physical access to the blades in questions, a quick nickel test should rule in/out a meteoritic origin. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 10/22/11, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, Be very, very careful. The stories associated with most krises for sale in Indonesia are apocryphal. I've heard more fantastic stories---truly extraordinary tales---before the price drops precipitously during the course of negotiations. The kris is a very important cultural symbol and there are so many legends attached to this weapon. My favorite? It was widely believed a kris would, on its own, slide out of its sheath and fly through the sky to strike the enemies of its owner. Meteoritic iron? I've heard this a lotfar too often, in fact---and I would be extremely suspicious. Best / darryl On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Rob Wesel wrote: Hello all I have a friend vacationing who ran across an antique store selling three Indonesian blades claiming to be made of meteoric iron. While I know that if you are going to find a meteorite blade it's gonna be Indonesian or Mike Miller's, I know very little about what they should look like. If the list holds any experts please have a look and weigh in. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/blades.htm Thanks Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
G'Day List Interesting. The first thing that came to my mind when I saw that teaser image was Acapulcoite. And I know it's not the first North American Lunar because I have that but I'm keeping it quiet ;-)) Sheesh! I give up. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 4:05 PM To: Bernd V. Pauli; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... One more hint: Go with the flow... ;-) Greg Greg: While it is not 'oriented', it does have orientation... :) Preferred orientation?! ;-) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned...
Greg what an interesting intro! And Matthias, he can't show the rest, it has a XXX rating ;-)) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Bärmann Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:50 PM To: Greg Hupé; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... What a diabolical way of announcement, Greg :-) - Original Message - From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:14 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sneak Peek ~ A Slice of Heaven! Stay tuned... Hello All, Here is a sneak peek to a new meteorite I will be making available real soon: http://www.lunarrock.com/SneakPeek4u.jpg Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6527 (20111008) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6527 (20111008) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FWD from Mike Farmer - Robbery in Kenya
G'Day Mike and List, Way back when I way traveling I went through a few situations. Having a gun held to my head in Muscat, Oman, being held in East Germany before the wall came down, Mexican jail, etc. I now play it safe. The world is not what it used to be. The days of the Gung-ho Traveler have gone, but, maybe your trying to rejuvenate it.:-) I suppose the term that we loosely used is actually becoming fact. Meteorite madness. I'm glad to see that your home and safe and yes you should consider a book or maybe a reality show. Meteorite Farmer Adventures. Cheers John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
G'Day Paul, A really awesome job. I just hope everybody appreciates what you're doing and it doesn't fall to the way side like the previous RSPOD by Michael Johnson. A little support and some kind words go a long way. Well done Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of valpar...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Here it is. www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp This will be the link every day, but I will continue to post it. Cheers. Paul Swartz IMCA 5204 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thika
G'Day Jan and List That is good news and an astounding achievement for Mike and Greg. Maybe we should get Laurence Garvie to jump on Zunhua ;-) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jan Woreczko Wadi Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:11 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thika Ha lol The new fall in Kenya is already in MetBull http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=54493 Best Woreczko __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 1 in 3200 odds of human impact (help)
G'Day Doug and list Lets not forget SkyLab What all that means, contend NASA'S statisticians, is that the chance of any remnant striking a human being is only 1 in 152; the probability of any specific person being struck is 1 in 600 billion-far less than the chance of being hit by a bolt of lightning or winning a lottery. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,920502,00.html Andre's husband Mervin -- president of the local town council at the time -- issued the Yanks a ticket for littering. It remains unpaid, 21 years later. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/03/42564?currentPage= all Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 1 in 3200 odds of human impact (help) Hi Stuart, List, Sterling, Kirk and all, The official statement based on a 9-year old estimate which was magically updated: Estimated human casualty risk (updated to 2011): ~ 1 in 3200 which I interpret to mean death or injury, though it could be interpreted as death alone. NASA/DoD used FPBBNOQ, their version of the risk assessment program to determine this, (a.k.a. falsely precise black box that no one questions otherwise known as ORSAT) NASA's ORSAT calculations were that the impact: * Cross sectional area 3.49 m^2 of UARS debris (that's 37.5 square feet) * 26 pieces surviving * 532.38 kg mass total impacting weight ORSAT, their proverbial magic black box: Estimated human casualty risk (updated to 2011): ~ 1 in 3200 The excuses and justifications and sweet talk (something like we hear in politics or by the slouchers that promise results at work IMO): No NASA or USG human casualty reentry risk limits existed when UARS was designed, built, and launched. . NASA, the USG, and some foreign space agencies now seek to limit human casualty risks from reentering space objects to less than 1 in 10,000. . UARS is a moderate-sized space object. Uncontrolled reentries of objects more massive than UARS are not frequent, but neither are they unusual. - Combined Dragon mockup and Falcon 9 second stage reentry in June 2010 was more massive. . Since the beginning of the space age, there has been no confirmed report of an injury resulting from reentering space objects. Read all about it here: ref: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/585584main_UARS_Status.pdf Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Sun, Sep 25, 2011 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 1 in 3200 odds of human impact (help) Maybe they were calculating odds in the US only at the 1:3200. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:31 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 1 in 3200 odds of human impact (help) Hi listers I'm very suspicious of this widely quoted 1 in 3200 that is being passed off as a scientific number by NASA. Not 1:3000, nor between 1:1000 to 1:10,000: but 1:3200. This foolishly precise assertation, which if you've read The Little Prince you immediately suspect it is overstated due to the author's calculations 70 years ago there...where a similar calculation is actually done ... Average cross sectional area of a person? (Depends if it is in the morning when everyone is praying, I guess, or in the afternoon when everyone is running out of work)...let's say: Cross section per person:18 inches by 18 inches (1.5 x 1.5 sq. feet) World population: 6.964 X 10^9 living souls World Area: 196,939,900 sq miles Calculations: * Cross section per person = 2.5 sq. feet * current world population occupies 624.3 square miles (a wee bit bigger than Guam, and smaller than Singapore) * people that could fit on Earth's surface: 2,196,000,000,000,000 (2.2 million X 10^9) * Fraction of Earth's surface that's people = 6.96 / (2,196,000) = 0.0317 = People occupy *ONLY* 3.2 parts per million (3.2 ppm) of the earth's surface So, saving rounding till the end, each piece of UARS actually has a 1/315,457 chance of falling on people (1/0.0317). In rounded numbers, that's about 1:320,000 per fragment == 26 fragments approximately 1:12,000 chance. I guess if you are American you need more space than if you are Indonesian, and changing it to a 18 inches X 17 inches would change the result by 6% ie, if 3200 were right for 18X18 it would now be about 1:3000, and that is one of so many assumptions making the 3200 number a total joke of fake scientific confidence. If you gave everyone a square yard ((91.4 cm)^2) instead, it would be in the 3000
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER
G'Day All I'm really liking this discussion. I love the information and the knowledge that I'm obtaining from this. Thanks Shawn and Doug Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:36 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER Re: In what year were chondrules first discovered in aerolites aka meteorites? Hi Shawn, Shyawn, you clearly didn't understand what I was sayingt, so I'll be a bit clearer: - Firstly, you left out the most important sentence in Williams' description, because you are quoting third or fourth hand and Marvin wasn't commenting on the first use of chondrules n or trying to list every personal communication of the period. So I'll take the liberty of helping you despite your stupid comment telling me to read more. The description continues: The spherical bodies were much harder than the rest of the stone. That said: - You did not provide any first hand referencfe that chondrules were *first* discovered in 1799. - You did not provide a quote that Ursula Marvin supported that the Benares description was the first incidence of a description of chondrules. - You got the year wrong (1869) that the term chondrule was coined (1863). - You zero in on the word spherical. Well, chondrules in meteorites are more frequently not spherical. What remnants you find in meteorites like Siena...are just granular, or remnants. Discovery has nothing to do with obnserving a spherical one vs. a squashed, crushed typical one. Most have been altered. That is my opinion, but strongly so, Hence, describing granules without calling them spherical only means that Benares had less deformed chondrules (and it was a great description in general). Sorry, but the assumptions were just way out. The first place it is in print (1802) will be a reasonable occurence for the concept of spherical granules, as opposed to regular granules. Since the 1799 date is not a publication date, and it is clear that plenty of correspondence was being exchanged, credit for publication goes to Howard so far, who though enough of this to publish. Back in the 1700's no one had a clue that chondrules were condensates or any other context to ascribe importance to them. When people looked at spherical, granular, or any other rounded form, that was clearly observed earlier, definitely in 1766 by Troili. The fact that the word spherical vs. granule was used in your reference means absolutely nothing except that more spherical chondrules occur in Benares than do in, eg. Albareto, Wold Cottage, etc. Chondrules were first understood in 1864. In that year it was first theorized that this peculiar structure, was a condensation product - specifically droplets of fiery rain from the Sun by Sorby, who showed they were melt products and presented that theory. That is when chondrules as a feature were discovered and lead to meteorites being a key to unlocking the solar system's formation. - As an aside: The independent account you mention from Williams has no mention of any kind of granule or chondrule. You indicate Williams discovered chondrules. A critical read of the information you provided suggest to me that in what you posted, that it was Sir Joseph who had already observed this in the older falls. And it was Sir Joseph who likely noted that this was a common feature of meteorites, based on his prior observations, not Williams who provided him with additional data, which was the basis of comparson. OK, enough ... Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 9:01 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER Hello Mexico Doug and Listers, Dough you said this . No time to go through your document link, but I suspect you are making a biased interpretation of this passing comment because you already know something the original investigators were clueless about. And this .. While other scientists may have mentioned spherical or granulated things and made various comments relating to them, specific or no so much so, that is not a clear scientific leap by any means regarding chrondrules in my opinion Doug first off, maybe you would want to read up on some of the links I provided before you make an opinion about what has been said in history. Why dont you give that a try and get back to me and you will see the wonders it can do for oneself when trying to rewrite history based on opinions alone. I love science and research and how one using these tools can present an educated argument on the topics of chondrules and use quotes and references to backup ones argument. Give it a try sometime :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Fireball Report Las Vegas, Nevada USA 19:45 PDT 9/14/2011
G'Day List Confirming Erik's and Count's sighting. We just got a call from Taryn, Kat's daughter. She was driving on Pahrump Valley Blvd heading South in the town of Pahrump. The light was not very high in the sky about 35 - 40 degrees. It was bright green and looked like a firework. She was able to look at it for at least 5 seconds as it was heading East and South to Las Vegas. No sonic boom was heard. Many other people in town also saw this. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] website link
G'Day Jack Sorry for the confusion, I took the liberty of correcting your link. I hope you don't mind. www.otherworldsmeteorites.net Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jack Schrader Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:44 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] website link Hello list members. Sorry for the second post but John kindly informed me that the link to my website was not working as there was a space after .net Please try this: www.otherworldsmeteorites.net If problems still exist, please cut and paste but it seems to be working for me. Again I apologize for this second post. Thanks, Jack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! And Possible New Fall
G'Day Adam and List I tried to contact Captain Chondrite but he's on vacation. I suppose he deserves it after all these posts. On another note, I've been following this possible fall in Texas. Been getting some good information. Has anybody else followed this possible fall? I'd like to hear more, but I know the avid hunters are already on the ground. Damn, I wish I could move at a moment's notice! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 P.S. Just for those who are curious, I was not on Curry's list. So does that mean I win and get all the meteorites? ;-) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hupe Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:29 PM To: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! I have dubs on the Reed's hand-held spectrum analyzer. I have a feeling that Super Duper Stevy Meteorite Man Not thinks the entire Western Hemisphere is dependent on this High Noon showdown thing complete with dueling hand triggered XRF ray guns. Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite! Adam - Original Message - From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names
G'Day Phil, list She should have fun with this http://coombs.anu.edu.au/WWWVLPages/AborigPages/LANG/GAMDICT/GAMDICTF.HT M Cheers John Cabassi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names
G'Day Greg and List What an awesome picture. If you go to the bottom, you might see the main mass ;-) I really like the one on the left, food is a priority. Cheese crackers and Peanut Butter crackers .. This kid rules. Look at the smile on his face. Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupé Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names I think Laughlin, NV is now well represented in Kenya! ;-) http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/Kenya_Laughlin.jpg Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_r dc=1 -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 4:07 PM To: dori...@embarqmail.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names That's the good thing about a nice Laughlin. Everyone can have one for themselves at the nobody's expense. Innisfree! Happy Weekeroo Station Doug -Original Message- From: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 3:38 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names Mike, I'm sorry Ur not enjoying this thread. I Hope you can lighten up and Bustee gut laughing. I think Carl Sagan would enjoy it. I know it's a Donnybrook but I'm about to Rolla on the floor and laugh. Sorry I can't help myself, it's a holiday weekend. Phil Whitmer --- I sure wish there was the interest in the actual meteorites recovered or announced this month, a new pallasite and two recovered falls. Hardly the interest in the actual meteorites that there is in this stupid thread. Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Big Met Bulletin Update
G'Day Mike Thanks for the update. But alas, no NWA 231. This has to be the longest meteorite to be classified. Besides Zunhua ;-) Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:19 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Met Bulletin Update A camel-load of NWA's were added to the Met Bulletin database today. There are numerous interesting meteorites and lots of achondrites - brachinites, ureilites, winonaite, HED's, carbonaceous, and some unequilibrated chondrites. Stones from Mike Farmer, Robert Ward, Darryl Pitt, John Higgins, Matt Morgan, and others were added. See the new additions here - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=; valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg =Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=1pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0 There are a couple of odd types for type-collectors - an E meteorite and an H3.2 (only two of these in the Bulletin and one is an Antarctic) Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out!
G'Day Sonny You never cease to amaze me. You always think of others less fortunate. You truly are a meteorite hunter Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com [mailto:wahlpe...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:54 PM To: j...@cabassi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out! Hi John, Doug and All, I have plans on cutting one at work tomorrow and donating the second one to the health care center down the street. I almost grabbed a third melon but after carrying these two I wanted nothing to do with the third melon! Sonny -Original Message- From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 11:46 am Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out! G'Day Sonny and list130 LB of melon carried back to your truck WOW mental note don't get onSonny's bad side :-)Cheers John-Original Message-From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com[mailto:meteorite-list-bounce s @meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Ofwahlperry@aol.comSent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:40 AMTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out!Hi All,You can't always find meteorites on every hunt, but you can have funalong the way. Check out these melons that I found, one is 64 1/2 lbsand the other is 66 lbs. I just hope to find a couple meteorites this big one day!http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report_2.htmlS o nny__Visit the Archives athttp://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-li s t mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/l i stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Strange
Just to give you an example, Shawn posted this at 1.30pm. Nothing has appeared on the Met List. Not even postings and I have made several. I'm not getting up your nose Art, but I feel your members need some real time instead of out of date and delayed responses. I don't know if you're having problems with your server but I'd really appreciate an explanation. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/metlistpostAug10.jpg Just my $1.50 AU Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: John.L.Cabassi [mailto:j...@cabassi.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:46 PM To: 'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com' Subject: OT: Strange G'Day List I don't know if anybody else is noticing but feeds coming through from the Met List are delayed and in batches, which is cool but sometimes it can cause complications. Without putting any names in place or promoting any body, I got a batch the day before. I constantly monitor what's coming down the pipeline then all of a sudden .. Bang! I get all these replies in one block. Some had been sent the day before, some have been sent on the current day, the times just don't add up. But one person in particular posted an ad, he sent it at 3 something AM and then at 1.30 PM a batch came through with maybe 12 listings on the Met List that had been sent quite some time ago. I was interested in the ad, so I immediately clicked on it and the auction had finished. So for those that are placing ads, maybe you should get them in a week ahead of schedule, because I'm definitely not receiving them until everything is finished. Just some thought and no animals or meteorites were harmed during this post. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out!
G'Day Sonny and list 130 LB of melon carried back to your truck WOW mental note don't get on Sonny's bad side :-) Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:40 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunts / Check these melons out! Hi All, You can't always find meteorites on every hunt, but you can have fun along the way. Check out these melons that I found, one is 64 1/2 lbs and the other is 66 lbs. I just hope to find a couple meteorites this big one day! http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report_2.html Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Structures of Skeletal Muscle Fibers Found inMeteorite......
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84209 .html -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:22 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Structures of Skeletal Muscle Fibers Found inMeteorite.. Hello Listers I was doing some researching and came across this link and not sure if its been listed but I find this to be interesting and also mm to be weird science. At any rate, NASA must be excited about this and I guess anything is possible these days, Tagish Lake has opals in them, lets see if we can find the fountain of youth next. Here is the abstract down below Abstract Structures of skeletal muscle fibers are found in three micrographs, which were imaged by Tom Phillips from a thin section cut out of Martian meteorite NWA 998. The morphology, organization, and context of the structures indicate they were the structures of muscle fibers. The micrographs show no cracks for the structures to move from outside the meteorite to their present locations. Therefore, the muscle fiber structures should be indigenous to meteorite NWA 998. The structures of muscle fibers are found in the meteorite possibly because the parent rock of the meteorite solidified around the fossilized muscle fibers on Mars. http://wretchfossil.blogspot.com/2011/06/structures-of-skeletal-muscle-f ibers.html Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Structures of Skeletal Muscle Fibers Found inMeteorite A lot of BS
G'Day Shawn and List I've already posted in regards to a thread that happened a while ago, that Tom was a little bit put out about. Not only have his images been used, but his words have been twisted. I wish he was back on the Met List. But after some correspondence with him today, he sent this to me with permission to post it. Welcome to the Tom Phillips Meteorite Micrograph Gallery! This gallery contains microscopic images of meteorites. While it is tempting to read into what you might think you see, I have never found any evidence of past life or any thing supernatural. I have read claims by people using my images to support their ideas, theories and dogmas. The claims of muscle fibers and other animal/people parts are the easiest to disprove as the size scale is off. Many meteorites have various forms of barred chondrules which may be large or quite small, almost fiber looking. These are not biological in nature. I can and have found strikingly similar looking structures in fresh volcanic rock. The claims involving faith and much harder to address. All I can say is I have noted no messages or hidden symbolism in any of my images. My images combine some science and some art. I am concentrating on the visually pleasing. What that means is I am often working with magnifications much higher than what is typically useful in optical meteorite classification examinations and as such, my images look Different than what many are accustomed to. This puts me in the position of being sensitive to outrageous claims involving my images. I am careful to say only what is accurate and I generally avoid analysis. I give the meteorite name, type of material, magnification or field of view and the microscope technique. If you see any thing more than meteorite structures in any of these images, have fun! But remember, this is no more scientific or spiritual than seeing dogs in clouds. Tom Phillips Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:22 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Structures of Skeletal Muscle Fibers Found inMeteorite.. Hello Listers I was doing some researching and came across this link and not sure if its been listed but I find this to be interesting and also mm to be weird science. At any rate, NASA must be excited about this and I guess anything is possible these days, Tagish Lake has opals in them, lets see if we can find the fountain of youth next. Here is the abstract down below Abstract Structures of skeletal muscle fibers are found in three micrographs, which were imaged by Tom Phillips from a thin section cut out of Martian meteorite NWA 998. The morphology, organization, and context of the structures indicate they were the structures of muscle fibers. The micrographs show no cracks for the structures to move from outside the meteorite to their present locations. Therefore, the muscle fiber structures should be indigenous to meteorite NWA 998. The structures of muscle fibers are found in the meteorite possibly because the parent rock of the meteorite solidified around the fossilized muscle fibers on Mars. http://wretchfossil.blogspot.com/2011/06/structures-of-skeletal-muscle-f ibers.html Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Strange
G'Day List I don't know if anybody else is noticing but feeds coming through from the Met List are delayed and in batches, which is cool but sometimes it can cause complications. Without putting any names in place or promoting any body, I got a batch the day before. I constantly monitor what's coming down the pipeline then all of a sudden .. Bang! I get all these replies in one block. Some had been sent the day before, some have been sent on the current day, the times just don't add up. But one person in particular posted an ad, he sent it at 3 something AM and then at 1.30 PM a batch came through with maybe 12 listings on the Met List that had been sent quite some time ago. I was interested in the ad, so I immediately clicked on it and the auction had finished. So for those that are placing ads, maybe you should get them in a week ahead of schedule, because I'm definitely not receiving them until everything is finished. Just some thought and no animals or meteorites were harmed during this post. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury Meteorites - the short list
G'Day Doug I find one meteorite in your list to be extraordinary and strange. And I'm basing my 401K on Bencubbinite Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:55 PM To: Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mercury Meteorites - the short list Hello again Mercury Nornoids, Physics, opinions and biases aside ... can we build a concise list of Mercury meteorite candidates already in our collections (at least wistfully) and play a game to see if we can speculate on them one by one - before the scientific press - with information from MESSENGER - as candidate meteorites from Mercury? Or, better yet, not eliminate one or more ... ;-) ? 1. Bencubbinites 2. Angrites 3. GRA 06128 06129 4. NWA 011 and pairings 5. Mercury Meteor (parent body Mercury or Ford?) Sunnyside up, Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Revive the 'radio days' with 'The Meteorite'
G'Day Martin Thanks for that, it brought back memories and a tear or two. Not sad, but joyful. The days I used to sit in front of the radio after dinner (US: supper). Sure made you eat your dinner so you could hunker down for some excitement maybe in our real worlds are those we explore in our nightmares. when an experience becomes too acute, we awaken switch on a light and forget the frightening dream. That may be foolish, we must face facts. One of them is that there are other worlds, other life and with the passing of time, centuries perhaps, there certainly will be interplanetary communication and ... who knows a Cruck may come to visit you. Thanks again Martin Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of karmaka Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:26 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Revive the 'radio days' with 'The Meteorite' Hello list(eners) ensconce yourself in an armchair, close your eyes and revive the RADIO DAYS this weekend with an old-time radio drama from CBS Radio Mystery Theater 1977 THE METEORITE (broadcast April 11, 1977) http://ia700308.us.archive.org/21/items/CBSRadioMysteryTheater1977_78_29 2/Cbsrmt1977.04.110632TheMeteoritefm.mp3 Have fun! Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS!
Oh and by the way Count, I missed your post. Maybe it was deleted, I don't know but I'm glad you followed through. Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count Deiro Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:48 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS! Had a bit of trouble posting this, so excuse me if it's a duplicate...or a triple! Hello Listees, Last month, some may recall that I sent out photos depicting a suspicious looking 108 gram find made 3/23/11 and asking for opinions. The general consensus was terrestrial and probably slag. I agreed initially with my respected and more experienced colleagues, but curiosity over traits that could be seen only by having the specimen in hand overcame my cheapness and I sent 22+ grams off to be classified. Today, I am pleased to announce that the unusal slag like exterior concealed an extremely fresh (WO/.1) L5 OC with an uncommon petrography. Efforts are under way to recover additional finds in the field, so I pray indulgence until we release the location which is in the western USA. http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i361/Airmuseum1/METEORITE%20FINDS%20 2/ Their out theregood hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS!
G'Day Count I have seen this happen too often. Meteorwrong, slag, leverite, the majority has presedence. I personally contact the person, put forward my views and advise the next step being scientific. Thanks for the update Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Bärmann Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:31 PM To: Count Deiro; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS! These are great news, Count, congratulations! It's a - welcome, I guess ;-) - remuneration for your persistence. Hm, this meteorite really looks somehow strange and atypical. But, as we can see: we'd never be too sure. Wish you lots of pleasure with your new guest from the skies, best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS! Had a bit of trouble posting this, so excuse me if it's a duplicate...or a triple! Hello Listees, Last month, some may recall that I sent out photos depicting a suspicious looking 108 gram find made 3/23/11 and asking for opinions. The general consensus was terrestrial and probably slag. I agreed initially with my respected and more experienced colleagues, but curiosity over traits that could be seen only by having the specimen in hand overcame my cheapness and I sent 22+ grams off to be classified. Today, I am pleased to announce that the unusal slag like exterior concealed an extremely fresh (WO/.1) L5 OC with an uncommon petrography. Efforts are under way to recover additional finds in the field, so I pray indulgence until we release the location which is in the western USA. http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i361/Airmuseum1/METEORITE%20FINDS% 202/ Their out theregood hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6337 (20110730) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6337 (20110730) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hello List
G'Day Craig Big welcome mate Cheers John Cabassi Imca 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Craig Moody Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:19 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Hello List Hello everyone. I just wanted to say that I am very proud to be a new mwmber of the IMCA (#6276), and am anxious to start a whole new level of learning here. I know some of you through other forums, or through stories - good and bad, but mostly good, and I hope to make more new friends and aquaintanced along the way. I have been a collector for almost two years now and have a nice little gathering of space rocks...Here are a few http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.466636295705.249957.632430705l =f57c409b3ftype=1 Thank you all Craig Moody __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Several suckers born every minute
OMG! How sad is that? I agree Phil, I'm in the wrong business John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of JoshuaTreeMuseum Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Several suckers born every minute Wowsers! 300 bucks. I'm in the wrong business! Phil Whitmer Hi List, Here is another unfortunate example of an obvious meteorwrong being offered as a pallasite. http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-Must-Sell-Unfortunately-Love-Pallasite-/17 0668340104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27bca03388 There is so much wrong with this one, that you have to read it for yourself. Read the silly description, then scroll down and read the nonsense answer the seller gave to a question. Seller also states he would like to have the option to buy it back LOL I have several pallasites like this laying in my back yard - who wants to buy one? Sadly, this lump of crap has several bids and is currently bidding at $152. What an expensive lesson to learn. Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Congratulations Apollo
G'Day List Finally got home today, interesting topics but I can't believe you forgot Apollo 11. So with fan fare, I would like to congratulate 40 years and many to come. http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/20/the-eagle-has-landed-happy-anniversa ry-apollo-11/ Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Congratulations Apollo
Sorry, typo. 42 years -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John.L.Cabassi Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:38 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Congratulations Apollo G'Day List Finally got home today, interesting topics but I can't believe you forgot Apollo 11. So with fan fare, I would like to congratulate 40 years and many to come. http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/20/the-eagle-has-landed-happy-anniversa ry-apollo-11/ Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
Perfect Translation Mike :-) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone Ironworks Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:16 PM To: Jim Wooddell Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not? Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about it.But it is not rock.Many thanks. Translation - Thank you for peeing into the wind. I don't care what you say or how much you know about meteorites. We don't care to do any tests, because they will confirm that our specimens are bogus. Many thanks. Any person with an ounce of experience and has done their homework can take one look at these specimens and discern that they are not meteorites. A blind man could make that determination from looking at the photos. Sadly, sellers like this prey on newbies, trusting folk, and people shopping for big bargains. And they will continue to do so until the proverbial cows come home. eBay will not put a stop to these auctions and the rest of us are powerless to stop them also. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 7/13/11, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening all! Here is the response I received from this person selling the rock... Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about it.But it is not rock.Many thanks. - crystal-sphere9 - FYI Jim Wooddell On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: JonathanI think one paddles upstream. :)) - Original Message - From: Jonathan E. Dongell jdong...@cox.net To: m42proto...@t-online.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not? M22protosun, Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as: iron/nickel meterites : ^ ( Question. How did you track the source to Mekong River? Jonathan ICMA 3922 - Original Message - From: m42protosun m42proto...@t-online.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not? Hi list, when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The simple negative Ni-Test shows that it contain not yet more than 0.1 ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites. m42protosun -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200 From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite 120738890611 link to item: http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/12 0738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] google checkout declare themselves themeteorite police
G'Day Everyone Decided to try and take on Google in this situation. I just received a response back, actually pretty fast. But I'm checking my head for air. The response is as follows and I also submitted Anne Black's rebuttal. Talk about a pain in the a** getting through to them. Give me a break. Actually, I might need to do a little driving in L.A. and approach their branch directly. It's not that too far away Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 Hello, We understand the urgent nature of your message and recommend that you visit the Gmail Privacy Security Help Center at https://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12784 for immediate assistance. If you'd like to report a Gmail user who has sent messages that violate the Gmail Program Policies and/or Terms of Use, please fill out a report form at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_phishin g. We'll investigate your report and may send a warning or discontinue Gmail service for users who violate our policies. If your issue is not related to abuse, please visit our Help Center at http://mail.google.com/support/ or click 'Help' at the top of any Gmail page for troubleshooting tips. Sincerely, The Google Team * This message was sent from a notification-only email address that does not accept incoming email. Please do not reply to this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut
I'm just wondering what it's going to take and where they are going to store them reference to Moon Trees. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MexicoDoug Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:29 AM To: meteoritem...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut Yes, Mike, the misplaced priorities given NASA's budget woes were not lost on me when thinking of the young lawyers working for or being retained by NASA to harass these true Human (and American) heroes, for the little perks enjoyed by the guys that were the common practice at the time among all astronauts, and just as well could have ended up in a garbage dumpster or some warehouse which was later auctioned off to the public for two cents per item if that. These are all violations of the Astronaut's rights under the US Constitution's Bill of Rights: Fourth, Fifth as well as Fourteenth amendments. As for the statute of limitations question, usually statutes of limitations doesn't apply to governments ;-), but that is predicated on the premise that they weren't allowed to have these mission scraps at the time and that they just as well couldn't have been thrown away or lost forever if not for the nostalgic instincts of these guys. (sound familiar?) Norm's comment on the shoulder patch was a good one. Lots of authentic patches out there now that the number of Astronauts are dwindling. Michael Collins flight suit was recently up for sale also. It was recovered from his old locker when they cleaned it out by his personal trainer at the time ... Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 10:26 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut Hi Doug and List, Happy Fourth of July to our astronauts who are being harassed for having garage sales! What an absolute waste of taxpayer money and manpower (again). At what point did our government go an Syd Barrett acid trip and not come back? This kind of thing sickens me. It makes me ashamed to be associated in any way with our mentally-defective government. Has all common sense and decency gone out the window in this day of lawsuits and ignorance? The elites and their sycophants don't care that people are losing their homes, going hungry, and going without medical care in this country. But yet we can piss away vast sums of money to investigate, harass, and prosecute people for selling dusty swatches of tape and old obsolete cameras. It's friggin disgusting. I've been saying this for 20 years and now the people are finally catching up with what I have been saying - this government needs to be replaced from the ground up. It's broken, it's been co-opted by megalomaniac elitists, and the fed is being used as a tool to oppress the people. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves over 1000 things, and now this campaign of astronaut harassment makes it 1001 things. What message does this send to science-inspired youngsters who might pursue a career in the space program? --- Hey kids! You'll retire poor and your pension won't cover your basic expenses, so when you try to have a garage sale, you'll be harassed for it and threatened with criminal charges so we can prevent the spread of dirty tape and obsolete cameras! God Bless America! I really need to stop reading or answering these posts before my coffee kicks in. Is my vitriol running too freely this morning? LOL Best regards and best of luck to our HERO astronauts, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 7/4/11, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90053154?U.S.%20government%20sue s%20former%20astronaut%20over%20lunar%20camera#ixzz1R7PMDp3p Dear list, This is a very relevant case to meteorites and should not be taken lightly. They're at it again ... rewriting history and after 40 years of NASA's permission to take mementos from the Apollo era - now suing the sixth man to walk on the moon, Edgar Mitchell of Apollo 11, for trying to sell the camera they allowed him to have ... the precedent, I suspect is the identical one to the dust on the tape, which didn't exist, but they are gunning for now. Again, we are faced with the erosion of sensible property
Re: [meteorite-list] Polandmet 10th anniversary
G'Day Marcin A big congratulations and the best is yet to come! I was just looking at one of your beautiful full slice I have of Thuathe. Quality piece and packaged beautifully. Keep up the good work Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Marcin Cimala Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:39 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Polandmet 10th anniversary Hello Tooday is special day for me. 10 years ago, after speaking with my parents about my personal future, I decided to try selling meteorites and maybe become a dealer one day. All this years was very succesfull for me. I meet alot of meteorite friends, visit many meteorite places and whats most importand I bay and sell many many meteorites. But begining was difficult as I dont have much money for meteorites. But this was not the biggest problem at this time. Poland was not part of EU, so every box was checked by customs. PayPal for many years dont even have idea that there is such country like Poland. I use Western Unuion BidPay check that was very difficult to exchange for real money as noone in banks know what the hell is this. Many times I buy or sell meteorite just for money sended in registered mails without any insurance. This was funny past Right now I celebrating Polandmet 10th anniversary. Thank You all who buy meteorites from me. I hope I can do same job for next 10 years. I prepared some old stuff on my page :) My first Polandmet website from 2001/2002 http://www.polandmet.com/old_polandmet/index.htm 10 years of Polandmet - photos compilation http://www.polandmet.com/+10years.htm And ofcourse for the next 24h all purchases get 20% discount for everything ! Hey, where is my champagne ??? :) Have a nice monrning, day, evening, night ! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
http://www.thespaceshop.com/shuttilin.html -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:20 AM To: MexicoDoug Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Hi Doug and List, Doug - it is great to see you posting again. I have missed your insights. :) They are selling heat tiles from the shuttles at KSC? I didn't know that, and I want one! I've been meaning to acquire some more space-related items - aerogel, heat shield tiles, etc. Do they have a website where I can order the tiles, or do I need to visit the gift shop in person? Best regards, MikeG PS - is there somewhere online to buy the Russian tiles also? -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/25/11, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: JG wrote to MG: What law are you talking about? Ditto! A fact-supported discussion would be so much nicer. It is my understanding that when Apollo lost its funding, oodles of relics entered the private domain and there wasn't much ado about it - rather, a tacit acceptance and a party atmosphere pervaded in the wake of Moonphoria and non had any scientific value at the time. Where are the retroactive vigorous sting operations hunting down these national treasures? I am sure the same laws, whatever they might be, cover them. Post-facto contrived rules are a violation which seems to date to the Magna Carta and any remotely civilized society. All material loaned or provided in exchange for analyses to be done which is covered by modern agreements (as Jeff alludes to) has a clear paper trail, but there are the nonsensical cases like tape on the Hasselblad magazines demonstrate how ludicrous things can become for reasons foreign to science and domestic to collectors willingness to pay. I take my place behind the line of those who have already pointed this out. Moon specimens that were incidental and innocuous gifts of questionable or no value at the time seem to have taken a special place. But, there are other exceptions as well. As I peruse the aisles of the gift shop at KSC I am tempted to buy a Space Shuttle heat tile. Yet NASA has allegedly gone on record saying that it will not dispose of them by sale to the public (reason: we could be liable for unintended harm they might cause). Rumor has it that the Soviet Buran tiles are more interesting to collect and Russia has no such hang ups over them, so I'll hold out for one of them. If I had an American one it would not be satisfying in present company. I couldn't freely share it with my international friends without risking being thrown in jail for providing sensitive military secrets to other nations... at least that is the rumor on how it was for a long time ... There is a clear demonstration of double standard and a willingness to invent retroactive laws, which should be prohibited constitutionally, but the American system separates the judicial and that makes legislation from the bench a convenient option in cases like this. How frustrating for Mr. Rosen, the guy who bought the gifted moon rock from a Honduran official for a large sum of money. The government simply snatched it from him and it was not because the Hondurans filed a claim. If he had been compensated for his recovery of the specimen it would be different in my view. But the way it went down, there is reason to be wary of the court's freeloading and arbitrary mindset in these cases. It is quite removed from science and boils down to politics and setting cruel and unusual precedents at the expense of citizens for prior shoddy control practices. Mr. Rosen, the owner at the time of the Moon rock was never charged with any criminal activity - they just took the rock plaque and left him to brood. If they could have charged him I sort of think they would have given the zest to make examples out of people. But they got what they wanted - a precedent of no-ownership when before there was none to my knowledge. I would point out that this nonsensical legal gymnastic that seems to have developed ought to be applied to each and every scientist in the United States that is on any payroll or grant for a project who supposedly buys specimens in his free time. How different is such piggybacking from the microgram residues on a piece of tape out of a camera? How did Dr. King amass that huge
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust
This dust seems like a problem http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15607792/ -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Well, look what Slezak has here on his fingers! (photo courtesy: NASA). That's what the big gooseberry season story is about. http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/luceneweb/fullimage.jsp?photoId=S69-40054 The Slezaktape story is well documented, publically known for decades now. No idea, how one can speak then from smuggling or even black market. Agreements such as the one shown here have long been used Well, in this case it's the simple question how long they have been used. Florian, who acquired the scotch tape, told, that when Slezak put the strip of tape on the poster to remember in 1969/1970 no regulations concerning the Apollo materials existed, the first ones came into effect in August 1972. If it's so - then: Newspaper had its story, attorney his publicity on TV... and because Ex post facto, the widow should get her dust grains back. If it's not so, FBI has to throw Slezak and btw. Alan Bean, who used lunar dust from his mission patches in his paintings into jail. Anyway, these contaminated few single particles of dust, are compared to the Apollo rocks research has at hand of no scientific interest. Hence I think, that tax-money spent for that nuisance should have been better spent for the acquisition of more samples of lunar meteorites for NASA diversifying their lunar materials reservoir. Ah here are some of Bean's paintings. http://www.alanbean.com/available_originals.cfm Hmm, they are quite bit more expensive than the tape-snippet...therefore don't show them to the U.S. attorney's office in St.Louis! When the Moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's ammmooo. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff Grossman Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011 01:37 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust [This email was written by me as a private citizen, and does not reflect any kind of official position by NASA] If you want to see the loan agreements that are used today, please read: http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/sampreq/LunarAllocHandbook.pdf Agreements such as the one shown here have long been used at NASA, and I'm pretty sure most official samples in the past have had paperwork such as this accompanying them. I don't know what kind of variability of terms there have been in these agreements, but I'm confident that, whatever they say, they are legally binding on the recipients who sign them. I don't understand why people would be surprised that material of any value removed from a federal facility without permission might be subject to scrutiny. This sounds like theft to me, and doesn't seem to require any special law pertaining to the specific material. So, I don't understand the comment about self-proclaimed laws. Even if there is no cover-up of the removal or subsequent sale, that does not necessarily make it legal. I think the legal issue might come down to whether or not the remover had permission, either expressed or implied. Jeff __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] DaG 402 and DaG 477 paired???
G'Day Daniel http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/meteorite.aspx?id=5950 Cheers John Cabassi Imca2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dan Furlan Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:19 AM To: met-list Subject: [meteorite-list] DaG 402 and DaG 477 paired??? Hello everybody, does anybody know if DaG 402 is paired with DaG 477 i found lots of pictures online of DaG 477 but i cant seem to find any any of DaG 402.. i own some DaG 477 and they look just like the pictures i see online etc ive had them for a while.. I also have some DaG 402.. i am uploading stuff for sale on my website and when i checked my DaG 402 and my DaG 477 they look practically the same.. same weathering.. same matrix, same percentage of Iron flecks same distribution of chondrules etc... if i didn't know any better i would think they are the same meteorite but i cant seem to find much information on DaG 402 online and the only real difference is the outer crusts with the level of weathering as DaG 477 seems a bit more weathered but still the insides are almost identical...maybe im having trouble finding pictures of DaG 402 because its not as popular as DaG 477 who knows but if anybody owns some can you send me a picture or maybe point me to where i can see a picture online online of DaG 402 that would be great really. I have a feeling tleshey are paired but there is no real evidence of this online anywere and i dont want to be making any wild assumptions until i can find out for sure from somebody.. Daniel Furlan collector and dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2011
G'Day Michael and List It's funny I was researching any information on Ensisheim today and you let fly with this one. Great work. And Dave, you sure get around. Thanks for the update Michael, looking forward to more. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:02 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2011 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/ensisheim2011.html Regards, Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite
G'Day Stuart Ed I believe The Field Museum has a piece http://illinoismeteorites.com/217colfax.htm Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: imca-boun...@imcamail.de [mailto:imca-boun...@imcamail.de] On Behalf Of Ed Deckert Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:23 PM To: Stuart McDaniel; i...@imcamail.de; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite Hi Stuart, Ah, looking for a meteorite that is local to you! This one is likely going to be very hard to find as the TKW was only 2.3 Kg for this Iron meteorite, and it was found in 1880. I wonder where the main mass is housed? The Smithsonian has a 273.44 gram specimen, but I don't know if any other larger pieces exist. Perhaps so in a NC museum. I have been looking to buy NC meteorite specimens as well, and managed to find a few. Not an easy task, but they can be found. You might try contacting Russ Kempton (New England Meteoritical Services) his website is: http://www.meteorlab.com/ I have obtained several NC micros from Russ, and he may well be able to point you in the right direction if he does not have anything available. Ed Deckert IMCA #8911 - Original Message - From: Stuart McDaniel To: i...@imcamail.de ; Meteorite Central Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:29 PM Subject: [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite Does anyone know where I might obtain a small piece for a reasonable price? Micro would be fine. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=North+Carolinasfor=place sants=falls=valids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=United +Statessrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20ta blecode=5402 Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA ___ IMCA mailing list i...@imcamail.de http://lists.imcamail.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imca __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: anybody selling NWA 001???
G'Day Daniel I'm a little confused, you first addressed the situation on Al Haggounia 001, which is listed as an Aubrite, wondering why it hasn't been updated to an EL3. And then you stated for NWA 001, which is an L6.? Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dan Furlan Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:55 PM To: met-list Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: anybody selling NWA 001??? Hello everybody!! does anybody have some NWA 001 for sale? If you do please email me at danfur...@gmail.com Daniel Furlan meteorite collector and dealer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Spirit
G'Day Rob, Rich and List Yes it's a real shame. I was watching that program and it's not hard to get attached to that little rover and congratulations to JPL for a unique performance Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rich Jolly Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Spirit The National Geographic Channel has a nice tribute program out: Death of a Mars Rover http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/death-of-a-mars-rover-6755 /Overview -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of karmaka Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:56 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Spirit Yes, well done little robot !! Thanks to the Spirit team here on earth, you've done a marvelous job !! What a remarkable mission it was! How much it inspired us! For all those who visually want to be 'on Mars 'again, approach your screens and rejoice in the images Spirit has provided http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/ Keep your fingers crossed for Opportunity, because it is still 'alive and wheeling' http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/ Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Gesendet: 26.05.2011 03:26:32 An: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov, Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Thanks Spirit January 4, 2004 to April 4, 2004 was it's expected lifespan and we say goodbye 7 years later on May 25, 2011. Well done little robot http://tinyurl.com/3oq86or Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:09 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA's Spirit Rover Completes Mission on Mars http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-160 NASA's Spirit Rover Completes Mission on Mars Jet Propulsion Laboratory May 25, 2011 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Info needed
G'Day List Did anyone in the last year and a half obtain a Gao-Guenie 245.5 Individual Please contact me off list Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone UnderDozers
G'Day Mark, Dirk, Mike and List I'm only a stone throw away from (no pun intended) from San Juan Capistrano. I ventured down there a few times to do some relic searching, but to get permission is very hard, but it's not inhospitable to hunting. As for development, I have one going on across the road at the moment, the neighborhood vented concern but the money bags said they would be only single family homes and would not increase traffic. Well the traffic has increased ten fold, now they're 3 story New York style lofts. Can't trust anybody these days. I know the economy is bad and people need to make a buck, but they're not the ones responsible, it's the land developers. Damn, I called the police the other night because they were working till 9.00pm, should have finished at 7pm and the cops just blew me off. But Mark, I'll make a call and see what I can do. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:12 PM To: drtanuki Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone UnderDozers Hi Marc, Dirk and List, I am unfamiliar with the terrain in this area - is it good for meteorite hunting, or inhospitable to hunting? Have any other stones ever been found? (other than the initial finds) An H6 chondrite is robust and resilient, so there could be more. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/1/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Marc and List, (Sorry this did not post earlier) Thank you for your urgent plea. The list may be unaware that this is California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more important for some San Juan Capistrano Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew??? MetSocBul entry http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128 San Juan Capistrano H6 FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A. 33°29'05N, 117°39'45W. Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, Pacific Standard Time. Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6). Number of individual specimens: 2 Total weight: 56g Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the aluminum sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on the carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g, was discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport roof. Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in the San Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM Howdy all This isn't new news at this point, but the site of the San Juan Capistrano meteorite fall is on its way to becoming a 172 acre mixed use development. I've tried repeatedly to contact the developers and ask for permission to search for meteorites on the ground they clear, to no avail. I offered my time for free so they could donate any meteorites I found to local schools and what-not, but they're not buying. The last time I called the secretary put me straight to voicemail. In case anyone else would like to try their hand at this, here's the company doing the bulldozing: http://advancedonline.com/ares/ Look under current projects for The Meadows at San Juan Capistrano. They will be (already are?) clearing land adjacent to the trailer park where the only pieces of SJC were recovered. Here's a Google Map centered on the Meteoritical Society database coords for the fall: http://tinyurl.com/3q5oaxa This development has met some resistance in the local community and was covered extensively by the local media. I do wonder how it would go over if the media were made aware that this development will probably bury meteorites from one of only two California falls. Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
G'Day List This is a very interesting subject. Some good information on both sides, as well as the unicorn in the middle. I hope we keep this on track and don't turn it into a blood fest. Sorry Michael, no pun intended ;-) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 Dear All, I suspect the reason the prices are higher is that supplies are drying up because of various conflicts (Political or Otherwise) affecting the ability to go find them. Border controls are tighter getting in/out, now affecting the movements of locals (Nomads/Berbers). For what it's worth, that's my take on it. Cheers David R Childs IMCA#5112 - Original Message - From: Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite
G'Day Chris, Jim, Count and List Yes, I find the dremel diamond wheel very good http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=ensugexp=ldymlsxhr=tq=dreme l+diamondcp=9pq=dremel+cut+off+wheelrlz=1R2GGLT_enUS329bav=on.2,or.r _gc.r_pw.biw=1004bih=599wrapid=tlif130671641171810um=1ie=UTF-8tbm= shopcid=10807187833479235161sa=Xei=_ujiTb2mMu3ciAKvp9mdBgsqi=2ved=0 CF8Q8gIwAQ# Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wooddell Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:49 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite Hello Chris, I use a dremel diamond wheel when I am in the field from my truck and it works perfect. Just have to be careful on the amount of pressure applied. You can see me using them in my YouTube videosfrom my website http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org . Check them out if you have time! Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Hi Listers: I have a couple of dozen NWA chondrite all unnamed and unclassified. I haven't a lapidary saw or power grinder so I'm trying to file an edge off each meteorite with a hand file to see what I may have. Tried various files for metal that my late Dad left me in his old tool kit. Most don't make a mark. Can anyone recommend what type of file to use. Would a Dremel grinding stone work? If so which one? Thanks, Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - FYI: an L3-6
G'Day Bernd, Al and List Ah yes, the reclassification could be a windfall or a downfall, but very interesting. I don't know how many of those I've given away. Oh well, the recipients were happy, so was I. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of al mitt Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 4:11 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Bernd V. Pauli Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - FYI: an L3-6 Greetings Bernd and all, That cost me more than a few information cards. Best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - FYI: an L3-6 Hello Gary and List, Just a few minutes ago, Gary launched an EBay AD and one of his offerings is a 1 kg lot of NWA 869 L4-6. Interestingly, this ugly duckling, which is, in reality, an absolute beauty from the Hot Deserts of Northwest Africa, has been reclassified as an L3-6 chondritic regolith breccia by K. Metzler et al. in this MAPS article: Metzler K. et al. (2011) The L3-6 chondritic regolith breccia Northwest Africa (NWA) 869: (I) Petrology, chemistry, oxygen isotopes, and Ar-Ar age determinations (MAPS 46-5, 2011, pp. 652-680). Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gilmer not Gilmel
G'Day David, Gimel (aka MikeG) and List I'd like to second that. Actually somebody already did that... Maybe third that. Typos are a bitch, but a lot of fun. And Mike, I hope it wasn't your nose picking finger, that would be devastating ;-)) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:34 AM To: davidgunn...@fairpoint.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gilmer not Gilmel Hi David and List, Gimel is the pseudonym I used to infiltrate Saruman's tower and steal the Palantir. ;) Thank you for your kind words David. I sent you an email. :) Best regards, MikeG PS - a friend of mine is having a barbeque in the Shire tonight. Everyone is invited, but it's BYOPW - bring your own pipe weed. - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/27/11, David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: List, Sorry for the typo. Watched the Return of the King again last night and may have had one of the elves from Middle Earth on my mind by mistake David Gunning __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Georgia Fireball
G'Day List Good video on the Georgia event. http://spaceweather.com/ Cheers John Cabassi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite
G'Day Everyone, (sorry too many to list) When Lovina came to light, I was impressed. I had never seen anything like it and to be honest, I had my doubts. Then the situation progressed and I thought, wow, this is spectacular and you must admit, it's one hell of a piece! My first thoughts when this came to fruitation was a Manganese Nodule highly abrated and managed to surface itself on a beach, that's when the story began. I withdrew into my shell in disgust and embarrassment and then Lovina erupted again and I was excited. Now this latest issue... Please, you've got to stop. I've been on this roller coaster ride for a long time and I'm about to puke ;-)) But in the great words of Mike G, even though I don't own any Lovina, whatever is associated with it has been suspended from sale until further notice. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:54 PM To: Count Deiro Cc: Meteorite-list List; Baiyu Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite Well said Count. I agree 100%. Of course, meteorite or not, it's still worth acquiring (IMO).:) Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - ] On 5/24/11, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: I know how disappointed you must be, Darryl. You spent a great deal of blood and treasure directing and paying for the the analysis of this still extraordinary apecimen. The professionalism and honesty of your efforts to find the truth of Lovinia is apparent to all. The piece sure did capture the imagination. I was hoping for a different outcome, so I could have a piece. Best personal regards, Guido -Original Message- From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Sent: May 24, 2011 6:22 PM To: Meteorite-list List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Baiyu baiy...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite Greetings: I just received a preliminary abstract on Lovina from Kuni Nishiizumi of UC Berkeley's Space Sciences Laboratory. Kuni, the abstract's lead author, concluded it is unlikely Lovina is a meteorite. The markers analyzed were beryllium and chlorine concentrations and the paucity of cosmogenic radionuclides (only Gibeon and Nantan show less). One more round of tests will occur and further conclusions will be drawn from the same. The abstract entitled Lovina: is this a Meteorite? will appear in the MAPS volume associated with the 74th Annual Meteoritical Society Meeting this coming August. It has been suggested by some diehards that the bubbling evident in the Lovina mass could have been the result of smelting, and that the lack of cosmogenic radiation could be explained by Lovina having been near the center of a much larger mass---as we know Lovina originated from at least a somewhat larger mass for the ziggurat structures to have formed. However, in the spirit of embracing the most likely of explanations, it seems compelling to conclude that the most likely explanation for an expanding host of anomalies is Lovina's terrestrial origin. Accordingly, I've decided to no longer offer Lovina as a meteorite and have asked my webmaster to take down references to the same on Macovich.com at her earliest possible convenience. All best / Darryl __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Congrats Del
G'Day List It has been brought to my attention that Del, which I think most of you know chalked up a slider, 4 nice ones on the Met Bull Bluewing 007, H5 Cuddeback Dry Lake 028, L5 Cuddeback Dry Lake 029, H4 Red Dry Lake 071, H6 Well done Del! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats Del
G'Day Rob and List Sorry, typo. You are correct. Bluewing 037 Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson, Robert D. Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:45 PM To: John.L.Cabassi; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats Del Hi John, Minor correction: that's Bluewing 037 for Del. Yes, Del is an excellent meteorite hunter! --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John.L.Cabassi Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:39 PM To: 'Meteorite List' Subject: [meteorite-list] Congrats Del G'Day List It has been brought to my attention that Del, which I think most of you know chalked up a slider, 4 nice ones on the Met Bull Bluewing 007, H5 Cuddeback Dry Lake 028, L5 Cuddeback Dry Lake 029, H4 Red Dry Lake 071, H6 Well done Del! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012
G'Day Jim , List What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wooddell Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM To: Michael Blood Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012 Hi Michael and all! Okayso here is what I have so far! Day: Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday Time: ??? Location: VFW Post 4903. 1150 N. Beverly Ave. What time?? What food? Thanks! Jim Wooddell On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson Meteorite Auction. It is Sat, 4th There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will be meteorites. There will be Blood. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bigfoot and the
G'Day Count Ah, you're so funny! Especially your comment about did everybody get a worm when you signed off Count deiro IMVA 3536 I think you did get the worm! Was it Mescal? ;-)) =)) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count Deiro Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:04 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks; al mitt Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bigfoot and the Everybody get a worm? Count deiro IMVA 3536 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: May 22, 2011 6:43 PM To: al mitt alm...@kconline.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bigfoot and the Nakhla Dog - what do they havein common? Hi Al, I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else on the list. I was just trying to make some humor, albeit in a poor manner apparently. For the record, I am not anti-religious. I am a deeply spiritual person, but not in the usual mainstream manner. I have compassion for my fellow man and all living things on this Earth and a deep respect for nature. What I don't like is insane old charlatans making statements designed to create chaos and generate publicity and revenue. Imagine the children in this situation. Mom and Dad suddenly go off the deep end listening to this self-proclaimed messenger of God. They sell off the house, quit their jobs, and drag the kids across the country in a mini-van with the word Rapture plastered all over it. At the end of the day, the child is now homeless and his parents have no means to properly care for him. That is child abuse and the old man who announced this prophecy should be brought up on criminal charges or hit with a civil suit. One cannot yell Fire! in a crowded theatre, and one should not be allowed to maliciously disrupt the lives of countless families to the detriment of the children involved. I don't feel sorry for the gullible sheeple adults who fell for this nonsense, but their kids have no say in it. I have a problem with BS and I have never been afraid to call BS when I see it. The God of Moses will send the messiah like a thief in the night and none shall know the day of his arrival. I have read 3 translations of the Bible (also the Apocrypha) cover to cover, and most of the world's major holy books, including the Koran, the Bardo Thudo, the Bhagavad Gita, Book of the Mormon, the Classics of Confucianism, Egyptian Book of the Dead, the Satanic Bible (a joke and insult to the mind, but I had to read it to understand it), the Tanakh and the Torah, and I could go on. In all, I have digested about 2 dozen of the world's holiest books during my spiritual search. So I am not anti-religious. I am anti-BS and this recent rapture nonsense was exactly that - malicious BS designed to attract publicity and profit. Or, it was the delusional ramblings of a self-aggrandizer who should be medicated and placed in a treatment facility. I was baptized, took communion, attended Eucharist, and meditated in a Buddhist temple. I have also attended two Witches' Sabbats. I think you get my point. I don't mean to offend, and I often stick my foot into my mouth. And when I do offend, I always apologize and mean it. I like you Al, always have. And I don't want you pissed off at me, so I hope you can forgive my attempt at humor that started this. Jesus was one cool dude, full of love, compassion, and wisdom. I wish everyone could be like him - the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, nutjobs like Harold Camping hijack the message of Jesus for profit - and people like that should be firmly rebuked, IMO. I was going to send this to you privately, but since you called me out on the list, I am replying in public. But this will be my last post on the list about this and if you want to continue the discussion in private, we can. And I want to re-iterate, my apology to you is sincere. :) Best regards, MikeG --- -- Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- -- On 5/22/11, al mitt alm...@kconline.com wrote: Mike, You posted twice on a subject that doesn't belong on this list. I am sure there are people on the list who are biting their tongues right now. Everyone has a right to believe what they want to and that includes you but when you put such posts on a list dedicated to meteorites you are just asking for
[meteorite-list] Moon Rock
G'Day List Just in http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/05/nasa-moon-rock-woman-arres ted-riverside-sell.html Cheers John __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Rock - Correction
G'Day Paul H. No apologies necessary. I thoroughly enjoy what you put up on the list. I have never had the chance to thank you for your efforts. Well done. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:29 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Moon Rock - Correction Dear Friends, For one of the Moon Rock articles, I provided the wrong URL. The article and correct URL is: Purported moon rock that woman tried to sell must be tested for authenticity, NASA says. Los Angeles Times, May 20, 2011 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/05/nasa-moon-rock-sell.html My Apologies, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need Info
G'Day List Cleaning house the other day and found a packet of photographs taken back in 1993 at the Smithsonian. But this is one packet I missed and had not noted down the information or if I did, CRS has set in. Would like some help on it. It is a lunar rock that was displayed at the Smithsonian brought back by the Apollo mission. Can anybody shine some light on this? Some information? It would be much appreciated. On or Off List, your choice. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/MoonRock.jpg Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Need Info
G'Day Martin Hey thanks for your response. Yeah, I tried to check on several sites and the Smithsonian. There's a couple of images out there that look similar and I think one actually mentions 60025 but it was a little bit blurry. Damn, I wish I had have noted the information on this photograph, but I threw it away in a box and just recently pulled it out. And as for notes, who knows. All you guys must think I'm a flake, but I do try to keep track of a lot of things. This one slipped past me, in fact I didn't even know I had the photograph until I opened up the package. But thanks for your help and I'll try to investigate a little bit more. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:20 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Need Info Hi John, Those displays with the clamp with the white plastic caps for Apollo samples, seem to look everywhere the same. Perhaps you simply ask at the Smithsonian - because it's given on internet, that they had changed their lunar rocks display in 1997. Or, good opportunity to remind the fantastic pictorial atlas of lunar samples: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/index.shtml#ap11 Where you can click through all lunar samples. Maybe you find it there. (To me it looks a little bit similar to rock 60025). Best! Martin (..and if you'll need once such a Moon rock for your desk, you know where to ask, don't you? ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von John.L.Cabassi Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2011 04:14 An: 'Meteorite List' Betreff: [meteorite-list] Need Info G'Day List Cleaning house the other day and found a packet of photographs taken back in 1993 at the Smithsonian. But this is one packet I missed and had not noted down the information or if I did, CRS has set in. Would like some help on it. It is a lunar rock that was displayed at the Smithsonian brought back by the Apollo mission. Can anybody shine some light on this? Some information? It would be much appreciated. On or Off List, your choice. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/MoonRock.jpg Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Detected 13/14MAY2011 location guess
G'Day Mike F, Mike G, John L and List This might be appropriate :-)) =)) http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/throwme.jpg Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John Lutzon Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:02 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Detected 13/14MAY2011 location guess LOL LOL, my thoughts exactly. Ah, what were we talking about man John - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; drtan...@yahoo.com; Matson,Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Detected 13/14MAY2011 location guess Well, taking that into account, you will find a stone of some kind, no matter what. LOL Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/16/11, meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Rough area, marijuana growing capital of Canada as well. could get iffy walking around there. Have fun. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Hi Shawn, That's a good estimate for the fall location, though I would move your red circle a half diameter north. The bolide did not make it into the U.S., and I'm fairly confident that the ground track passes NNW of Creston (i.e. between Creston and Kootenay Lake.) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 1:48 PM To: drtan...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor Detected 13/14MAY2011 location guess Hello Listers, From reading and looking over the skycam I took a snap shot from google maps and made a map where I think some meteorites might be. Take a look and see what you think. http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262799@N03/5727392929/in/photostream Shawn Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
G'Day List So no wonder I couldn't find you Jeff, hanging out with the Canucks and some good friends. Congratulations on your find. And Mike, Vegemite rules! Nectar of the Gods. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike Bandli Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:40 AM To: Michael Johnson Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite A BIG congrats to friend and fellow Australian meteorite guru Jeff Kuyken for finding his very first meteorite. We were honored to share in the moment and it set the tone for what would become an amazing week here at Whitecourt. He didn't know it it until this week, but Jeff is a natural born meteorite hunter. I had a first as well - my first taste of Vegemite on toast. I have to say, it is pretty nasty Cheers, Mike Bandli - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:05:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 13, 2011 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_13_2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Currency used at Ensisheim..
Gold Nuggets. =)) Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Luther Jackson Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:37 PM To: Met List Subject: [meteorite-list] Currency used at Ensisheim.. Hi all, Just a quick question, what is the currency of choice at Ensisheim? Do all dealers shift to Euros, or is it a mix of currencies? Do dealers take card payments? Cheers, Luther UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
G'Day Richard and Vegemite Listoids Yes, it equals the finest caviar and you know we have con-drites, ewe-crites and the ever elusive vege-mites. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/Misc%20Folder/PICT00 16.jpg What's in my cupboard, never leave home without it. A mega B-12 boost! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:47 PM To: John.L.Cabassi; 'Mike Bandli'; 'Michael Johnson' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite G'day Vegemite Listoidsthanks for the clarification ...I've thought that Vegemite was a rare mineral, found in Australia's yet-to-be-found meteorites :) Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: 'Mike Bandli' fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Michael Johnson' mich...@rocksfromspace.org Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite G'Day List So no wonder I couldn't find you Jeff, hanging out with the Canucks and some good friends. Congratulations on your find. And Mike, Vegemite rules! Nectar of the Gods. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike Bandli Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:40 AM To: Michael Johnson Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite A BIG congrats to friend and fellow Australian meteorite guru Jeff Kuyken for finding his very first meteorite. We were honored to share in the moment and it set the tone for what would become an amazing week here at Whitecourt. He didn't know it it until this week, but Jeff is a natural born meteorite hunter. I had a first as well - my first taste of Vegemite on toast. I have to say, it is pretty nasty Cheers, Mike Bandli - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:05:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 13, 2011 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_13_2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
Oh Brian, now you've done it. Poor Jeff, he's going to be singled out by Australian customs, bringing in animal parts. Some advice, find some wood, a desk, maybe even a tree branch and bite hard on it. Nothing worse than a strip search ;-)) Cheers John Cabassi -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bmoore Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:59 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite Jeff, if you are still up there at Whitecourt there is a deer antler (souvenir?) to go along with your first find. @ lat N 53 deg 59.917 min, long W 115 deg 35.614 min. Happy hunting. -Brian Moore __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Mineral
G'Day List The first natural occurrence of a low-pressure CaAl2O4 mineral has been found in a refractory inclusion in a carbonaceous chondrite meteorite. http://www.hawaii.edu/news/article.php?aId=4415 Cheers John Cabassi imca 2125 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is everyone? Facebook?
G'Day Ruben Well you were concerned about the slowness on the Met List. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true ;-) ;-) I would officially call it active at the moment. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 5:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is everyone? Facebook? Hi all, It has been so slow on the Met-list lately that It's making me wonder if everyone is talking meteorites somewhere else Facebook maybe? Since I deleted my FB account I don't know. -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Whetstones Mountain meteorite
G'Day Mark Oh, a real bad. You know the subject line police are now on your trail. If I were you, I'd sleep tonight with one eye open. =)) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark Bowling Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:13 PM To: Mark Bowling; Michael Farmer; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Whetstones Mountain meteorite Oops, meant to change the subject line... That's exciting news Mike! - Original Message From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:11:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss Cool, are any of those Whetstones available for sale? I hadn't heard of any found since Dec 2009. Any updates on the TKW? Any smaller pieces found? Happy hunting, Mark B. Vail, AZ - Original Message From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 7:28:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss All of the scams lately from Kansas to Mifflin to Texas are really starting to be a blight on meteorites. Sad that these falls seem to bring out the scammers wanting to cash in. Now you all know exactly why the Whetstone Mountains meteorite fall was closely controlled and information was not published. Pieces are still being found there in great condition and without drama. Michael Farmer Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
G'Day Jason, Dirk, Michael, Count and List What a mess! This is definitely not good. I feel spared that I have no Mifflin in my collection, as of yet. I hope this gets resolved and put to rest quickly and I appeal to those that have dubious possibilities to come forth. Jason, well done. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of drtanuki Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:58 PM To: michael cottingham; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss Hi Michael, Great job as always; thank you! It seems that Carl needs to come clean and name the person that he bought the material from? Carl at least owes us that courtesy if he wants to maintain any respectability in the meteorite world? From what I read the water is too murky if someone spends any amount of money to buy from an unknown finder? seller and cannot? remember their name, etc.? And address? A city? Anything? Carl how much of this material did this finder? seller help you put on the market? Carl? Do you have an explanation? Please do give us the whole and factual story. Carl I am not accusing you of anything; rather hoping that you will quickly clear up matters before further commotion appears in the henhouse. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Cc: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 11:38 AM Hello, Good question. I have accounted for and taken out of the gene pool, almost all of the bad Mifflin that I got dragged into. I do not know about the others. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 7, 2011, at 8:31 PM, drtanuki wrote: Jason, You raise several good points and analysis. One further question that should be asked is how many grams of this rock were put into the market as Mifflin? And have they made their way into the gene pool to how many buyers and sellers and yet to reproduce more offspring? Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Sun, 5/8/11, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: From: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 10:12 AM Hello All, My story begins in the summer of last year. I saw some strange pieces of 'Mifflin' on ebay that I thought looked funny. People were talking about the meteorite having two lithologies, but...the slices and individuals that I saw looked 'off.' A select few looked like H-chondrites, and they had the telltale signs of wear that freshly-imported Moroccan falls bear: worn edges, exposed metal flakes on protruding corners (where the fusion crust had been worn off due to improper packing), etc. At the time, I did nothing but send a private email to Anne Black notifying her of my suspicions. I spoke with some other prominent list-members addressing it, and they all agreed that the material looked funny, but that nothing could be done about it given the required burden of proof. So, I sat on my hands for several months. Just over a month ago, I saw a piece of the funny-looking 'Mifflin' on ebay. It looked similar to some pieces that I remembered seeing on ebay months before, and, being an end-cut, I was able to see both the stone's funny-looking inside -- and the apparent metal grains on the stone's exterior. I used the 'buy-it-now' option to purchase the end-cut, and it arrived while Peter and I were in Morocco. When we returned, I promptly shipped the end-cut off to Tony Irving of the University of Washington; he agreed to analyze the stone posthaste. The results came back, but Tony wanted to wait until the probe was recallibrated so that he could run it again to be sure. Lo and behold, he did confirm that my end-cut was an equilibrated H-chondrite, with an olivine Fa of 18.6. For comparison, Chergach and Bassikounou both have Fa contents of 18.4 and 18.6, respectively. University of Madison, Wisconsin performed most of the work on the Mifflin fall. Between them and the Field Museum, over twenty separate stones were analyzed. They were all L5. Mifflin is classified as an L5, with an Fa of ~24.9 +/- 0.2. I then sent Tony the link to the ebay auction so he could confirm that the piece that he had analyzed was indeed the piece that I had sent him. He did. I purchased my end-cut from Bryan Scarborough (IMCA), who purchased it from Michael Cottingham, who purchased it from Greg Catterton (IMCA), who purchased the stone with Carl Esparza from the
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay
G'Day Dave Regarding Cook 001 Right pic or wrong picLabeled DHO838 Cheers john Imca 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:39 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay Hi folks A few ebay thingies 2 meteorites and 2 non-meteorites Cook 001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745614682ssPageNa me=STRK:MESELX:IT Imilac http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745621327ssPageNa me=STRK:MESELX:IT Some Californian gold http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745619733ssPageNa me=STRK:MESELX:IT and some platinum wire http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745618600ssPageNa me=STRK:MESELX:IT thanks in anticipation dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay
G'Day Dave Wow that's tough, caught me out :-) Cheers John ( Mental note on labeling..speak to Dave ) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:53 PM To: John.L.Cabassi; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay Hi! the label is my inventory number! DH 0838! I wish I had thought of a different labelleing before I started my numbers! I have had that asked a million times - and I regret it so much! DH=Dave Harris, my monicker! thanks! dave (DH) - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: 'dave' entropyd...@ntlworld.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:28 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay G'Day Dave Regarding Cook 001 Right pic or wrong picLabeled DHO838 Cheers john Imca 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:39 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay Hi folks A few ebay thingies 2 meteorites and 2 non-meteorites Cook 001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745614682ssPage Na me=STRK:MESELX:IT Imilac http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745621327ssPage Na me=STRK:MESELX:IT Some Californian gold http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745619733ssPage Na me=STRK:MESELX:IT and some platinum wire http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270745618600ssPage Na me=STRK:MESELX:IT thanks in anticipation dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ answer
G'Day Richard and List I second that. Shawn offers a lot on his site as well as his Pop Quiz. Kudos to him, well done Shawn! Thanks for your continued knowledge to our addictive hobby. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Montgomery Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:03 PM To: Shawn Alan; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ answer Shawn, a continued thanks and congratulations for your constant outreach opportunities to put another bit of knowledge on the shelf. Purdy durn cool! Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ answer Hello Listers, Thank you everyone that sent in your answers for the POP QUIZ FRIDAYS posting. Question Please tell me which meteorite fall was one of the first falls to be recognized by scientists as a rock from space. Answer Chassigny is a fall from 1815 in France and as such was one of the first meteorite falls to be recognized by scientists as a rock from space. It is curated by the Paris Museum. Chassigny is the only martian meteorite which is a dunite, or olivine cumulate. It consists mostly of Fe-rich olivine with minor clinopyroxene, feldspar, oxides, sulfides, and phosphates. It contains oxidized iron in its chromite and rare amphiboles in melt inclusions. It contains trace amounts of carbonate and sulfate salts in cracks inside the sample. http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/antmet/marsmets/chassigny/sample.cfm I can say this the LAigle meteorite helped the notion of the idea that meteorites fall from the sky but LAigle from a scientific value and history value wasn't stated to be from space. I have done some looking around and from what I can find Chassigny meteorite is one of the first meteorite falls to be recognized by scientists to be from outer space and it comes from NASA's website. I will looking into this further and see if they can direct me into the right direction where I can find the direct source/sources that state this. The winner of a McKenzie Draw(B) meteorite fragment found in Texas, USA in the summer of 1989 while a farmer was plowing a peanut field is Rich J. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYSShawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 15:43:10 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6) Next message: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 25-29, 2011 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers, Spring is here and so is another installment of POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. Name of the game be the 10th Lister to email me off the List with the correct answer and win a free McKenzie Draw(B) meteorite fragment found in Texas, USA in the summer of 1989 while a farmer was plowing a peanut field. Question: Please tell me which meteorite fall was one of the first falls to be recognized by scientists as a rock from space. Good Luck Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6) Next message: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 25-29, 2011 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Which came first the chicken or the egg?
G'Day Shawn and list The chicken. The scientific and philosophical mystery was purportedly unraveled by researchers at Sheffield and Warwick universities, according to the Daily Mail newspaper. The scientists found that a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg, according to the paper Wednesday. The egg can therefore only exist if it has been created inside a chicken. The protein speeds up the development of the hard shell, which is essential in protecting the delicate yolk and fluids while the chick grows inside the egg :-) :-) Cheers John IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:59 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Which came first the chicken or the egg? Hello Listers The question is which came first the chicken or the eggs? Well lets get back to the but I have a better one, which came first Calcalong Creek Lunar or ALHA81005 Lunar ? Sources and research states that ALHA81005 was the first Lunar meteorite. But how can that be? Calcalong Creek meteorite was recovered by an Aborigine meteorite hunter in the Millbillillie strewnfield in 1960 ish and discovered by Robert Haag in 1990 ish. Now wouldn't the statement make more since if it read like this... Calcalong Creek meteorite was the first discovered Lunar meteorite and ALHA81005 was the first classified Lunar meteorite? These sources state this ALHA81005 Whats special about this one? It's the first rock found on Earth recognized to be a meteorite from the Moon. Compositionally, mineralogically, and texturally it is unlike any other lunar meteorite. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/alha81005.htm Calcalong Creek Whats special about this one? It was the first lunar meteorite to have been found outside of Antarctica. It is the only lunar meteorite to have been found in Australia. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/calcalong.htm I would say the links are partly right but feel that Calcalong Creek should also say that it was the first found Lunar meteorite. So now what came first Calcalong Creek or ALHA81005 or can we say the chicken? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Which came first the chicken or the egg?
G'Day Frank I agree ALHA81005 http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vq=cache:VqMYb5EBMo8J:curator.jsc.nasa. gov/antmet/PDFFiles/M03_Calcalongv3.pdf+calcalon+meteoritehl=engl=usp id=blsrcid=ADGEESh7yPi8-CVivCiJ1cy2utuJ2MTn1zbEYQnmKlyCrkA_7WfSXMOTtNag G33nh2_gt6ojLMRcnFSmyFgA72z2TpWKKXkjMKLp4Wpv-lnOOCRzMIvCrNvS2JrEDrb1BLTY HS_GqwIrsig=AHIEtbS6BoYCkagZkC6csC8b8NJDtUU__w -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Frank Cressy Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:34 PM To: Shawn Alan Cc: meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Which came first the chicken or the egg? Shawn, I think you've misinterpreted your source a bit. It says that Calcalong Creek was found AFTER 1960. As I remember it Millbillillie fell in 1960, but no meteorites from that fall were found until the early 1970s. Many stones were found in the 70s and 80s and are still being found today. There is no data as far as I know as to when Calcalong Creek was actually picked up. Haag found Calcalong Creek in a box of Millbillillie stones stones he purchased in1990 or 1991 and he recognized it as different then. Unless you can say exactly when Calcalong Creek was picked up I think you have to go with ALHA81005 as the first lunar. Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 5:59:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Which came first the chicken or the egg? Hello Listers The question is which came first the chicken or the eggs? Well lets get back to the but I have a better one, which came first Calcalong Creek Lunar or ALHA81005 Lunar ? Sources and research states that ALHA81005 was the first Lunar meteorite. But how can that be? Calcalong Creek meteorite was recovered by an Aborigine meteorite hunter in the Millbillillie strewnfield in 1960 ish and discovered by Robert Haag in 1990 ish. Now wouldn't the statement make more since if it read like this... Calcalong Creek meteorite was the first discovered Lunar meteorite and ALHA81005 was the first classified Lunar meteorite? These sources state this ALHA81005 Whats special about this one? It's the first rock found on Earth recognized to be a meteorite from the Moon. Compositionally, mineralogically, and texturally it is unlike any other lunar meteorite. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/alha81005.htm Calcalong Creek Whats special about this one? It was the first lunar meteorite to have been found outside of Antarctica. It is the only lunar meteorite to have been found in Australia. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/calcalong.htm I would say the links are partly right but feel that Calcalong Creek should also say that it was the first found Lunar meteorite. So now what came first Calcalong Creek or ALHA81005 or can we say the chicken? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
