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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling

2020-11-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list

Can't believe that. I bear Dave in my mind as full of life, a man of
impressive strength, openess, friendliness.

We met a few times in Ensisheim, several years ago. Remember him
together with his daughter Maddie, playing around him like a joyous
little child-planet around the father-sun.

I have here an oriented stone-meteorite named "crown of flames". It was
first with Svend Buhl, then with Dave, finally it came back to Germany
and made it to my cabinet. It still was, but even stronger will be an
inspiration to contemplate the ways we go.

Farewell. All my very best wishes to the family.

Matthias

Am 12.11.2020 um 10:18 schrieb Svend Buhl via Meteorite-list:

This is devastating.
A giant of a man, kind like no other, full of inspiration, advice and
positive spirit, great father, and a friend whom you could rely on,
for anything, always.

I can't put in words the emptyness I feel on knowing that Dave is no
longer with us.
Speaking for my entire family, you will never be forgotten brother.

All our love and thoughts are with the Gheesling and Sutton families.

Svend & Claire

John Cabassi via Meteorite-list mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> hat am 12.11.2020 07:10
geschrieben:

My heart is broken. Dave was a man of integrity and for whom I have
great respect.
He has supported me in many ways. I've shared a beer and I've shared
some tears with him. He stands as an icon in the meteorite community
and a great family man.

Both Kat and I send our love and prayers to the Gheesling family,
especially Maddie and Kasia.

Dave was a truly genuine person and I am so grateful to have been his
friend and a part of his life. Rest in Peace my friend

John & Katina Cabassi

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:57 PM Sean T. Murray via IMCA
mailto:i...@mail.imca.co>> wrote:
>

Folks,
It’s with a heavy heart that I write to the meteorite community this
evening.
Dave Gheesling passed away yesterday (11/11), and we’re all trying
to process the sudden loss. He was my best friend. I don’t have the
words to express how much he meant to me, how much he influenced my
life, and how blessed I was to have known the man.
Dave’s love of family & friends, his positivity, his generosity and
his enthusiasm for life are the example he has left for us all. Dave
has been an important part of our community, and his contributions
will live on as his legacy for many decades to come.
I apologize for the abruptness of an email communication, but we
were only able to contact a few people this evening, given the hour.
Please, if you need anything, contact me directly so that we can
give Dave’s family the time they need to prepare for the service. I
will post more details as they are available.
Yours,
Sean Murray
678-367-7095 (cell)
--
“Our respective fates here on planet Earth are all inevitable.
Sooner or later - and whether we like it or not - each of us will
eventually assume room temperature. Seemingly against all odds, we
are born, we experience a few decades on the big ball (if we're
lucky), then we die. Our atoms are once again stirred back into the
terrestrial soup, and that's about all she wrote.”
-- Dave Gheesling, August 2009
http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] So, uh, is there a black hole at the center of the Earth? - One of Five Retracted Papers

2020-10-16 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list

Yeah, man. Billions of left socks safe at home. The myriads of
counterparts: caught in the hole. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz called it
"pre-stabilized harmony".

Am 15.10.2020 um 14:01 schrieb Svend Buhl:

And don’t forget the mystery of the missing socks! Billions have been
lost since the dawn of time, but only ever one, never a pair ...

Am 15.10.2020 um 13:16 schrieb Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list
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My suspect since decades. The car keys - vanished. My spectacles -
lost. The Euros - no shows.

And Elvis? The Bernsteinzimmer? The Bermuda Triangle?

Am 14.10.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

13 Scientists Say in a Real Journal There's a Black
Hole at the Center of Earth, Caroline Delbert, Sept. 28, 2020
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a34166354/black-hole-center-of-earth-fake-study/

Retraction: A Black Hole at the Center of Earth Plays the
Role of the Biggest System of Telecommunication for
Connecting DNAs, Dark DNAs and Molecules of Water
on 4+N- Dimensional Manifold
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6910781/

Retraction: Five papers from Open Access Maced
J Med Sci. Vol. 7 No. 18 (2019): Sep 30 (Global Dermatology)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6910781/citedby/

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] So, uh, is there a black hole at the center of the Earth? - One of Five Retracted Papers

2020-10-15 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



My suspect since decades. The car keys - vanished. My spectacles - lost.
The Euros - no shows.

And Elvis? The Bernsteinzimmer? The Bermuda Triangle?


Am 14.10.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

13 Scientists Say in a Real Journal There's a Black
Hole at the Center of Earth, Caroline Delbert, Sept. 28, 2020
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a34166354/black-hole-center-of-earth-fake-study/


Retraction: A Black Hole at the Center of Earth Plays the
Role of the Biggest System of Telecommunication for
Connecting DNAs, Dark DNAs and Molecules of Water
on 4+N- Dimensional Manifold
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6910781/

Retraction: Five papers from Open Access Maced
J Med Sci. Vol. 7 No. 18 (2019): Sep 30 (Global Dermatology)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6910781/citedby/

Yours,

Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

2020-06-15 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



There's something out there called the MetList. And it is ...  ...
alive ^^

Cheers, Matthias


Am 15.06.2020 um 00:39 schrieb Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list:

Hello,

several classifiers are adding BSE images now:

https://tinyurl.com/ydd9w6g7

Why not add some thin section photos in PPL and XPL too?!  Even rusty 
chondrites look interesting in thin section! ;-)

Cheers,
Peter





Am 14.06.2020 um 22:48 schrieb Jean Alix Barrat via Meteorite-list 
:

Hello,

it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a false 
good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be studied by 
anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who is interested in 
ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science will be brought by these 
samples? Is it really important to complicate the work of the classifiers for 
these samples? Who will agree to do this work if the procedure becomes even 
more demanding?

Cheers,

Jean-Alix

Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit :

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification 
should include few photos of specimen….

Excellent idea, Marcin!

It exists for many mets from Antarctica already!  Why not for all the newly 
classified mets? Including thin section photos!!!

https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78

BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the meteorite 
world takes place!

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2020

2020-04-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Hey Zelimir, Anne, and listees,

undoubtedly the right - although sad - decision.

We'll keep Ensisheim in our very hearts and look forward to 2021.

Thanks for the info and take care all of you

Matthias


Am 11.04.2020 um 04:19 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list:

Hello everybody,
Here a message from Zelimir Gabelica the organizer of the Ensisheim Show.
Hello friends,
As president of the Association of Friends of the Meteorite of
Ensisheim, given the current situation (coronavirus and its
consequences), I have the duty to announce to you officially and with
great sadness, that we cannot maintain the 2020 edition of our Show on
meteorites and that, therefore, we postpone the event to 2021.
This decision takes into account the unanimous opinion of our
organizing committee and is also in complete agreement with the
opinion and request of the municipal authorities of the city of Ensisheim.
Our event involves a large number of dealers from all over the world
and attracts a large audience. Even if the current containment (the
latest news, planned to be extended beyond mid-April) will (perhaps)
end next June, it is expected that the period of "de-containment" will
be long and very progressive.
Health experts agree that the health crisis, but also, and most
importantly, the economic one, could last for weeks, even months. No
one can yet predict when the free movement of people across the
borders will be effective, or if the gathering of the public who
circulates during the fair will be officially authorized next June.
We hope that this pandemic will end before the end of the summer and
that we can resume our cultural and scientific activities with
confidence in June 2021.
With the full support of the entire organizing committee,
Best regards to all of you, and most importantly, stay healthy!
Zelimir
Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Fossil, Geology, and Science Video Collections

2020-03-26 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Great idea, Paul - thank you.

Am 26.03.2020 um 14:32 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

Given the current troubles that have much of this world in lock-down
in their homes,
I have collected the URLs for different collections of geology,
fossils, and general
science videos for the Houston Gem and Mineral Society. To share them
with a
wider audience I have posted the list below.

"Let's be careful out there."

Paul H.

Geology Video Collections

American Geological Institute Webinars
https://www.americangeosciences.org/webinars

Australian Institute of Geoscientists
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLqmTfmB-kxPhgIYx_T27KA

Benjamin Burger
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6IxWv14YRWhd07XOMdraRA

Central Washington University
https://www.youtube.com/user/CentralWashU/videos?view=0=p_id=2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwNJg2mCrcQSWMxs2jvgp_lvpeffAUd6e

CSPG - Canada's Energy Geoscientists
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo47bIjmfuQpbkFCQBFVAeA

CSUFullerton_GeologyDept. - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLeTpwLkLpbDLVCll3O10fQ

Engineering Geology And Geotechnics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvoYHzAhvVM

Geologists of Jackson Hole
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIqF4IlVr75GZMROmG3myEA/videos

Geological Society of London
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzhX_LOB1xUwIDmckTrPOqw
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNksJlpAKcLiMM7OmC_J3r8Ku84SzNpNE

Houston Geological Society
https://www.youtube.com/user/HGSGeoEducation/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4E1jMy025zyFJ2ZxPEv0Ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zGgOktFQ8
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs6d6cNggaUbA2dCgH1cvRqkT1m5xOiIG

NASA Astrobiology
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC14eJIZ7EWssOo9sBGp4d7Q
https://www.youtube.com/user/NAIVideoResources/channels

SETI Institute
https://www.youtube.com/user/setiinstitute/playlists

Solid Earth group (PGP)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfb0OB9oo3ffXjJcO4HwLtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5QIs4mu6Wg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWpWr3--9DQ

++

Paleontology Video Collections

Sergey Paleotrip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTAMW8YsJaA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NUHNbl9Y4KtQKlijWbCyg

Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaraga_Hn9iXkE79K2qDXxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUV0q9WVXY=PLZlbplZQQwVpcyo2zibn-TBciG0Cmc8R1


+

Archaeology Video Collections

Gresham College
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/watch/

The Oriental Institute
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCitjN1GDlEVcLz-fAy5VIpg

Penn Museum
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiiElpwq-jZMlEDJlWaPBlg

++

Science Video Collections

American Geophysical Union (AGU) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAmvZawnAXogfsrXWKpPTVw

BBC Science and Nature
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/genre/factual/scienceandnature

UC Berkeley Events
https://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeleyEvents/videos?view=0=p_id=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiFF04rOq3Y

European Geosciences Union
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS_7GuTIk_PEBto2w-_nXgg

Google Talks - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbmNph6atAoGfqLoCL_duAg

Gresham College
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/watch/

Harvard Museum of Natural History
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChjF1Bz-Fx4WFGRqfVbjcrA

The Royal Institution of Great Britian
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYeF244yNGuFefuFKqxIAXw

Santa Fe Institute - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9rHXgUE9pikzYcGrAujMXQ

WORLDETHQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBGUnmocYqQcBQMGWmPNpbA

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[meteorite-list] Good bye, Count Guido Roberto Deiro.

2020-01-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



I met "The Count" first here on the MetList, admiring this old man and
his freshly discovered passion for meteorites which made him burn and
shine like a youngster.

A bit later we discovered additional mutual interests, passions,
desires, generating a dense exchange of emails, books etc.

In his last years Count Guido began to write and to publish. He sent
manuscripts to me, we discussed them, me and my son translated his
fascinating autobiographical novel 'Flying for Howard [Hughes]'.

Count Guido Roberto Deiro was the son of world-famous Vaudeville star
Count Guido Deiro. He worked hard for the remambrance of his father.

He himself seemingly lived several lives. He worked as a detective; as a
real estates entrepreneur; and, above all, as a pilot: a military test
pilot and, perhaps the most interesting job: as private pilot ot the
legendary Howard Hughes in Las Vegas. He supported several of the most
important American land artists, flying over America's South-West,
finding large properties to enable them to realize their projects. In
this context a very personal art collection began to develop, including
letters, sketches, drawings, maps, fotos etc. Count Deoro donated this
unique collection to the Nevada Museum of Art, which he supported in
other subjects as well.

Not to forget: the meteorites. He didn't only collect. As a hunter he
found the biggest stone meteorite of Nevada.

Count Guido Deiro was a Chevalier with a big heart. Always ready to try
to go new ways, powered by a good sense of humour. It's only today that
I learn of his death September 12, 2019.

Dear Count: thank you for your confidence, spontaneity, for your
adventerous heart and your friendship. I wish you all the best on your way.

Matthias Baermann

For some more biographical details see here:

http://www.accordions.com/news.aspx?d=13-Sep-2019=en=15806


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Re: [meteorite-list] Haag Meteorites 2020 my entire collection is for sale 2mm

2019-10-17 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Hi Rob , - since so long a time you've been a source of inspiration for
the worldwide community of meteorite-fools.

You still are, and you'll be.

Thanks for that, man, still keep your heart oriented!

Very best wishes - Matthias B.


Am 17.10.2019 um 15:05 schrieb Robert Haag via Meteorite-list:

Hello friends and colleagues.,collectors.researchers and investors.
I am tapping out.Exit strategy

Looks like I have a buyer…its in the works now.
..just letting you all know


NO MORE CUTTING . Sold the diamond wire saw to Marvin Killgore
Hes gonna need it with Fukang..believe me..

40 years. Of 100% focus on trying to be the best meteoritefan,er
meteoriteman I could be. !

It has to go somewhere  this can be the national collection  of  
(.Its that good.)
pick your country..Its got to go.INTACT.

Its time to get my meteorite collection out of my basement vault house
and into the world

Email me if you are serious about this and I will mail a 12 page color
catalog.
Its mostly up on Instagram now and will be fully up on my website
meteorites.com  in a few days

I love
you guys. Thank you.
Bob Haag



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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2019 News

2019-03-27 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Thank you as always, Zelimir, for keeping the community informed
regarding the Ensisheim Show and for doing all that organisational work.

Highly estimated!

Best - Matthias


Am 26.03.2019 um 16:18 schrieb Zelimir Gabelica via Meteorite-list:

Dear Meteorite experts, lovers, hunters, collectors, MetList & IMCA friends,

Please find here down full info and some rules regarding the "Ensisheim Meteorite 
2019".
Hopefully you receive this in time.
Welcome for questions or comments.

All registrations and pre-registrations will, from now on, be considererd and 
answered.

Best ragards to all,

Zelimir


“ENSISHEIM METEORITE 2019” show news (March 26, 2019)

Dear meteorite friends, members of IMCA & Meteorite-Central List,
Please find here down information about “Ensisheim-Meteorite 2019”, the 20th 
show edition.
-

SHOW SATES AND ENTRANCE:

This year the show dates are as usually, the week preceding the Ste-Marie-aux-Mines 
“Mineral & Gem” show:

Professional day (for dealers only) : Friday June 21: 10:00–18:00
Official show inauguration : Friday June 21, 18:00 (see below)
Enthroning ceremonies and friendly drink : Friday June 21, 18:30 (see below)
Show opening to the public :
* Saturday June 22: 9:30–18:30 (dealer’s access possible from 8:30)
* Sunday June 23: 9:30–16:30

LOCATION:

Regency Palace (halls partly rebuilt), main square (in front of the Regency)
Entrance fee
* Saturday + Sunday: 5 €
* Saturday only: 5 €
* Sunday only: 3 €
* Children under 12: free
* To avoid fraud, tickets with stump will be distributed at the entrance

THE NEW SHOWROOMS

As announced earlier this year, the 20 th edition of our meteorite show has 
returned to our old good “Palais de la Régence” (Regency Palace) which remains 
forever our show “magical place”.
Important work has been done in the old building where an elevator is now 
installed in accordance with the law on security. As a result, the space at the 
end of the old staircase is now slightly limited and some tables have had to be 
re-arranged. The new layout of the “Pas Perdus” hall (first floor entrance) now 
involves only 5 dealer tables while the space devoted to the consignment tables 
as well as the usual table of Anne Black are now cluttered by the elevator 
environment.

Nevertheless, the “Spiess” space is now fully open and can accommodate 6 dealer 
tables and the 5 consignment tables.
The “ Egloff ” hall still allows placing 9 tables, while the “ Regency Room ” 
was not affected by the work.
As a result, presently 55 dealer and the 5 consignment tables could still be 
easily installed in the Palace.

However, due to the recent increasing demand for tables, we estimate that at 
least 65 tables are needed to satisfy everyone. This goal could only be 
achieved by expanding the space of the Palace.
The extension now involves the installation of a medium sized tent (10.5 x 7 m) 
connected to the main entrance of the Regency Palace. The entrance to the 
Palace is now such that the public must enter through the tent door and 
inevitably visit all the tables of the tent.

TABLE ATTRIBUTION

The new configuration of the space currently available (Palace + tent) forces 
us to assign the tables according to the seniority rule:
The "old exhibitors" (those who have reserved tables for a long time), will 
have the priority to have their usual tables in the Palace (so as in 2017). I will try to 
arrange their table(s) the best I can, respecting as much as possible the old layout and 
the presence of their usual neighbors.

The "new exhibitors" (those who have rented tables recently and all the newcomers) will 
receive their tables in the adjacent tent, following the "first come, first served" rule.

Those of you who had booked tables in 2018 (in the temporary “Gymnase 
Communal”), please inform me quickly whether (or not) you wish to confirm your 
visit this year. If yes, specify how many tables you want to rent.
I insist that if you cannot go this year, you notify me that you want to 
cancel. This is very important and absolutely necessary so that I can 
immediately assign tables to those who are on the waiting list.

TABLE SPECIFICATION:

All tables (in the Palace and in the tent) are now fully equivalent in size 
(160 x 80 cm) and in price (single price of 180 euros per table - and not per 
meter - regardless of the number of tables rented, meaning that there is no 
more digressive price for those who rent more than one table).

The Palace and the tent rooms are well lit. Anyway, it's up to you to decide if 
your tables need extra lighting. Please note that only LED bulbs are 
acceptable, with a maximum power of 100 watt per table. Other bulbs are now 
prohibited.

Tables must be paid preferably in cash (in euros), at the reception desk. 
French checks are tolerated but not credit cards .
When you pay, you will receive your personalized badges.

The reservation of the tables starts from now.
To register, send me

Re: [meteorite-list] Identifying putative planetary-origin meteorites

2019-03-13 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Very interesting indeed, thanks, Paul, for sharing. Would be thrilling
to be compared with Stefan Ralew's NWA 7325. Surprisingly I couldn't
find any references to NWA 7325.

Best - Matthias


Am 12.03.2019 um 23:34 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

Anfinogenova, Y. and Anfinogenov, J., 2019. Challenges
of identifying putative planetary-origin meteorites of
non-igneous material. Geoscience Frontiers. (Open Access)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1674987119300209
https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.09960

And just when I thought that I had seen everything,
this paper appeared.

Fastook, J.L., Head, J.W. and Deutsch, A.N., 2019.
Glaciation on Mercury: Accumulation and flow of ice
in permanently shadowed circum-polar crater interiors.
Icarus, 317, pp.81-93.
http://www.planetary.brown.edu/html_pages/publications.htm
http://www.planetary.brown.edu/pdfs/5065.pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103517306061

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Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Viñales meteorite fall report

2019-02-24 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Thank you, Mike, for your engagement and for this outstanding report.

Matthias


Am 23.02.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list:



I just spent a week in Viñales.

The stories about the fall are incredible.

I’d like to share a few things regarding the fall.


I speak fluent Spanish so getting the information was easy.


One farmer was in his yard feeding chickens when he saw the bright
flash for a couple of seconds he said brighter than the sun. Hard to
see because the sun was also in the same direction.  It then he saw
the smoke trail overhead expanding once it passed over. A couple
minutes later the sonic booms and shockwave hit. he said it was like
being punched. Then a minute or more after the shockwave hit, stones
started falling all around him.

He heard individual pieces screaming in making whistling sounds and
hitting the ground. One hit his garden about 50 feet away.  Another
landed in the pond about 100 feet away, making a large water splash.
Another hit in the coffee plants behind his house. He said stones were
falling for over a minute or two. Hitting at different times. They
didn’t all come down at once.

He and his family found 4 near his house. One he heard hit in thick
brush and it hasn’t yet been found. One hit a yucca plant nearly
Cutting the trunk in half. He found that stone 5 days later embedded
in the soil at the base of the plant.


His wife found another across the street of almost 1 kilogram. It was
embedded in the soil and only the top surface was showing.


One boy on a bicycle was riding home rapidly afraid from the
explosions. He thought it was an American missile attack. A large 250
gram meteorite slammed into the asphalt road in front of him nearly
hitting him. He saw it bounce into the ditch and he jumped off the
bike and grabbed it, rapidly throwing it down because the stone was
painfully cold.


Another stone landed on the patio of the guesthouse Where I stayed in
downtown Viñales town.

I spoke to three other people who saw stones hit the ground and picked
the up instantly, all said same thing, that they had to drop them
because they were so cold.


One stone penetrated a house roof in Viñales and smashed a laptop
computer. I have not located the stone or computer to confirm.
Possible the police confiscated it. I have people working on it. I
know of at least 15 houses hit. All stones taken by the government.


I drove all over the Viñales Valley area, a massive area and no part
was spared meteorites. They were everywhere. Heavily scattered and not
well sorted.

10 gram stones fell a few feet from 2.5 kilogram stones. 50 gram, 500
gram. All same place.


Miles away in the town of La Majagua, thousands of small peas landed.
Sadly few were collected. The area is dense jungle and forest. Some
people reported picking up over 100 stones in a short time. Many
thrown away or given to the government. People came from far away and
took pieces. Miles up the road to the east is the El Salto lake. Many
stones were found on the dam. It has been heavily searched and I spent
a few hours there and didn’t find any. Some people reported going into
the pine forest nearby and finding many small stones on the pine
needles on the ground.

Sadly a massive heavy rain came last week only a couple days before my
arrival washing away the roads and making finds much more difficult.
With limited time I didn’t make any finds.


Most stones that landed in the soft farm soil penetrated in and
vanished under the soil. Before the rain people could see the impact
holes and locate the stone below. Now after the rain they are
impossible to locate. Stones are still being found in grassy pastures
and fields. But ticks are a problem. Within moments of entering the
grass you will be covered in tiny ticks. I’m still looking for them.


Stones are reported as falling in Pilotos village as well. This is due
to the high winds that curved the strewn field sharply to the east.
Doubtless millions of stones fell. The energy was 1.5 kiloton and the
mass was 350~ tons. If 99 % vaporized there would still be 3 tons on
the ground.

The problem is that the main part of the strewn field with larger
pieces is all jungle, mountains and dense tropical forest. Not much
chance of many large ones being recovered, and the largest masses made
it to the ocean.


Hard to estimate what’s been recovered. I’d put it at 30-50 kilograms
or more.


I have a limited number of complete crusted stones from 10 grams up yo
about 50 grams. I was able to decide what to purchase so I only took
the best pieces. Money is severely limited in Cuba due to no access to
American banking. Impossible to use any credit card or bank card. Cash
is heavily taxed. Changing is dollars incurs an instant 13% penalty tax!

Michael Farmer


If you want a gorgeous complete stone contact me rapidly. There aren’t
many of them. Mostly fragments.




Sent from XFINITY Connect App



Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE meteorite in France

2018-10-20 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



1 kg samples to all french spoken places in the Denver area!


Am 19.10.2018 um 21:53 schrieb John Lutzon via Meteorite-list:

This is outstanding news Anne !!
   Exceptionnel-- !!
Great work by the whole crew
and land owners.

- Original Message -
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To: ; 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:40 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] HUGE meteorite in France


Hello,

A huge iron meteorite has been found in France. 477 kilos. And 55 000 years old.
It is the St Aubin and now it is the largest meteorite ever found in France, 
even bigger than Mon Dieu and La Caille.
And the strewn field has also been figured out.

Here, on behalf of Marc Chapelet who handles the Meteorites Division, are all 
the details (in English, below the French version)
published by the Societe Astronomique de France, so it is a serious report. 
(not a journalistic fantasy).

https://saf-astronomie.fr/decouverte_de_la_plus_grosse_meteorite_francaise/

Enjoy!

More questions let me know, and I'll translate.

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

2018-09-13 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Ladies and Gentlemen,

well, this is of course not a work of art. Amazing craftmanship - yes 
(if it's not a product of a 3 D printer, of course ^^)


One might call this object obsessive, even idiotic. Nevertheless, the 
shape of the skull is a perfect sculpture of itself, and I don't 
hesitate finding it fascinating to follow the Widmanstaetten patterns 
and their transformations through the utmost complexe sculptural 
landscape of volumes, depressions ...


I agree, the imagination of the wasted material makes depressive.

Conclusion? I personally would prefer a good sculpted, well sized Gibeon 
individual in as found condition. Together with an etched endcut. (Would 
absolutely do to keep the pic in a virtual poison chest for contemplation.)


Regards

Matthias



Am 13.09.2018 um 22:55 schrieb Deborah Anne Martin via Meteorite-list:

So do I.

Andre

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I agree 1000%.
Thank you

Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list 
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Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2018 1:30 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Skull Carved Out of an Iron Meteorite

About:  
https://www.neatorama.com/2018/09/06/Skull-Carved-Out-of-an-Iron-Meteorite/

Only a mentally ill can do such a thing.

Paolo Conte
IMCA #6037
Met. Soc. #6262


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Re: [meteorite-list] Brazil National Museum Completely Gutted by Fire

2018-09-04 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



A tragedy. Can't say anything.

Yours

Matthias B.


Am 03.09.2018 um 18:07 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

Inferno at Brazil's National Museum causes 'irreparable'
damage and grief By Claudia Dominguez, Flora Charner
and Holly Yan, CNN, September 3, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/02/americas/brazil-national-museum-fire-intl/index.html 



Brazil National Museum fire: Key treasures at risk, BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45395774

Brazil museum fire: Funding cuts blamed as icon is gutted, BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45398084

Among the 20 million items presumed lost are a Maxakalisaurus
skeleton, 11,500 year-old Luzia remains, Pompeii fresco, and
countless Pre-Columbian artifacts. The museum contains a
meteorite collection, which includes the Bendegó Meteorite.

Luzia Woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzia_Woman

Bendegó Meteorite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendegó_meteorite
https://meteoritosbrasileiros.webs.com/bendego1.html

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Paul H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] latest impact news

2018-08-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Hello Mr. Grondine,

I would like to encourage you as an individual having specialized in 
impact events for about 30 years to ...


... spell my name correctly: Matthias.

... understand what I've written resp. pointed to, unmistakebly - to 
give you a tip: it's about asteroids, but not only.


... renew good manners as they seem to have been vaporized during the 30 
impact-dedicated years.


Best regards

Matthias



Am 10.08.2018 um 17:29 schrieb E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list:

Hi Mattais -

"Categorization as "fake news" would be a quick and inexpensive reaction
to asteroids sized whatever."

As an individual who has specialized in impact events for about 30 
years now,

I would like to point out to you that categorizing you as an idiot
is a quick and inexpensive reaction to your nonsense.

Moving on to the article Paul sent us the link to,
the LSST is not going to provide any warning of what is to hit,
as what will hit will likely be too dim to be seen by any Earth based 
system

working in the optical range.

While NASA continues to avoid setting up the NEOcam,
China is working on CAPS.

Good hunting, everyone -
E.P.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Are we prepared for an asteroid headed straight to Earth?

2018-08-09 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Categorization as "fake news" would be a quick and inexpensive reaction 
to asteroids sized whatever.



Am 09.08.2018 um 00:27 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

Cartier, K. M. S. (2018), Are we prepared for an asteroid headed
straight to Earth?, Eos, 99, https://doi.org/10.1029/2018EO101939.
Published on 29 June 2018.
https://eos.org/articles/are-we-prepared-for-an-asteroid-headed-straight-to-earth 


https://eos.org/scientific-disciplines/planetary-science

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 187, Issue 18

2018-07-19 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Normally: yes, best address.

But unfortunately not available just now.


Am 18.07.2018 um 16:38 schrieb frank.j.spitz via Meteorite-list:

Try Norm Lehrman of Tektite Source in US



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Hello everyone !

I have not been posting here for quite a while...
Not a big fan of FBook and not much going on here ;)

A dear friend of mine in France (where I live now also) would love a
Moldovite
for the energy it would give him.

There are sooo many fakes everywhere..
I read a bit in French and much more in English, but any advice 
welcomed ;)
(The best advice I read was to hold the Moldovite and feel its energy, 
but

online... ;))

And if any of you can propose one, around $100 ?

Thanx

Great day or else to you all

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Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: ~5g Murchison, no crust preferred

2018-06-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Ugly? Starry clouds of tiny chondrules: sensational.

Best - Matthias


Am 12.06.2018 um 20:31 schrieb Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list:

Hello everyone,

I need about 5g of Murchison for a client. Provenance needs to be rock solid
and prefer no crust. Ugly is good. :-)

Wholesale offers only. Please email me privately.

Mendy Ouzillou
+1-512-554-9987


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Re: [meteorite-list] The top 60 meteorites

2018-05-15 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



...

Cape York

Gebel Kamil

Toluca

Tafassasset

Twannberg

Estherville

Bassikounou

...



Am 11.05.2018 um 18:00 schrieb Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list:

Someone on my FB page
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/meteorites.tektites.impactites/) asked a
great question about what are the "must have" meteorites as a NEW collector.
I thought this would make a great topic of discussion for the MetList as
well. Here is a list I found online many years ago. I certainly do not agree
on some of these meteorites, but what would you recommend to add or remove?

This list is 60 meteorites, I’ll filter through all responses and see where
we end up. I'm not stuck on 60, could be 50 or it could be 100. Please do
not recommend meteorites that are unobtainium. If you could explain your
choice that would be a great benefit.

Allan Hills A76009
Allende
Almahatta Sitta
Ash Creek
Barbotan - Historic (1790)
Brenham
Camel Donga
Campo del Cielo
Canyon Diablo
Chergach
Chinga
Cumberland Falls
Dar al Gani 400 - Lunar
Dhofar 007
D'Orbigny
Ensisheim - Historic (1492)
Esquel
Gao-Guenie
Gibeon
Gold Basin
Gujba
Henbury
Holbrook
Imilac
Juancheng
Krasnojarsk - Historic (1749)
L'Aigle - Historic (1803)
Lake Murray
Lost City
Mifflin
Millbillillie
Mundrabilla
Murchison
New Orleans
Norton County
NWA 869 - L4-6
NWA 2999 - Angrite
NWA 4925 - Martian
NWA 5000 - Lunar
Pallasovka
Park Forest
Pasamonte
Peekskill
Peña Blanca Spring
Plainview
Portales Valley
Sayh al Uhaymir 001
Siena - Historic (1803)
Sikhote-Alin
Seymchan
Tagish Lake
Tatahouine
Travis County (a)
Vaca Muerta
Valera
Weston - Historic (1807)
White Court
Wold Cottage - Historic (1795)
Zag
Zagami - Martian

Mendy Ouzillou
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Re: [meteorite-list] The top 60 meteorites

2018-05-15 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



...

Bilanga

NWA 7325

Tissint

...


Am 11.05.2018 um 18:00 schrieb Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list:

Someone on my FB page
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/meteorites.tektites.impactites/) asked a
great question about what are the "must have" meteorites as a NEW collector.
I thought this would make a great topic of discussion for the MetList as
well. Here is a list I found online many years ago. I certainly do not agree
on some of these meteorites, but what would you recommend to add or remove?

This list is 60 meteorites, I’ll filter through all responses and see where
we end up. I'm not stuck on 60, could be 50 or it could be 100. Please do
not recommend meteorites that are unobtainium. If you could explain your
choice that would be a great benefit.

Allan Hills A76009
Allende
Almahatta Sitta
Ash Creek
Barbotan - Historic (1790)
Brenham
Camel Donga
Campo del Cielo
Canyon Diablo
Chergach
Chinga
Cumberland Falls
Dar al Gani 400 - Lunar
Dhofar 007
D'Orbigny
Ensisheim - Historic (1492)
Esquel
Gao-Guenie
Gibeon
Gold Basin
Gujba
Henbury
Holbrook
Imilac
Juancheng
Krasnojarsk - Historic (1749)
L'Aigle - Historic (1803)
Lake Murray
Lost City
Mifflin
Millbillillie
Mundrabilla
Murchison
New Orleans
Norton County
NWA 869 - L4-6
NWA 2999 - Angrite
NWA 4925 - Martian
NWA 5000 - Lunar
Pallasovka
Park Forest
Pasamonte
Peekskill
Peña Blanca Spring
Plainview
Portales Valley
Sayh al Uhaymir 001
Siena - Historic (1803)
Sikhote-Alin
Seymchan
Tagish Lake
Tatahouine
Travis County (a)
Vaca Muerta
Valera
Weston - Historic (1807)
White Court
Wold Cottage - Historic (1795)
Zag
Zagami - Martian

Mendy Ouzillou
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Re: [meteorite-list] Recently found Algerian Iron

2018-04-05 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list

I agree with your last postings, Gentlemen. Btw. this is a beautiful big 
iron and heavily regmaglypted iron without any doubt, but as far as I 
can see on the pics: overcleaned, unfortunately.

This is my personal estimate, of course.

All the best

Matthias

Am 05.04.2018 um 10:47 schrieb Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list:
The Meteorite is real. That’s not a problem. The problem it that there 
are 1000 people brokering it, none of whom own it or have ever even 
seen it. It sits in Algeria pretty much untouchable.
I am a serious buyer but the games being played with it make it a 
scam. When I see it delivered to my house in Tucson I’ll know it’s 
really for sale.

Michael Farmer

On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Robert Verish > wrote:

Looks like April Fool's Day comes early in Morocco.
Thanks for this update, Mike, and for the crucial info on this 
meteorite.

Something told me that you would have the "low-down" on this specimen.
Even thought about contacting you, but I decided not to bother you.

Glad no damage was done, and no one got hurt in this fiasco. But it 
sure is a shame,
that this great looking iron meteorite is now "lost to the ages".  
Wonder where it is?
Too bad there isn't a discussion group that discusses meteorites such 
as this one.

Too late to join Facebook.
Bob V.
All sales of mythological iron meteorites are hereby permanently 
suspended.

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:44 PM, Michael Farmer 
> wrote:

Where have you been Bob? This iron has been on the market for last 
year and a half. Waste of time. I’ve tried to buy it. Your “friends” 
surely don’t own it any more than anyone else sharing the photos. 
I’ve received them from people in Kenya, U.K., China, and about 1000 
Moroccans.

It’s a total scam.
Good luck suckers.

Michael Farmer

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:

>
> Hello All,
>
> Finally have some good news to report. Some fellow 
meteorite-hunters have contacted me to report that they have 
recovered a 255kg iron from the Sahara Desert in Algeria. This was 
well before April Fools Day, and the photos of it in-situ and 
"oiled-up" are very convincing.  I immediately put them in contact 
with an officially-approved institution here in USA for 
classification.  Apparently, they declined to cut this 
wonderful-looking and huge mass of iron (and no smaller masses have 
been found), until after they have a confirmed buyer. I probably 
should say "buyers", because I feel it will take a "consortium" of 
buyers to meet their asking price of

>
> $2/gram.
>
> The finders have already received a number of offers, but nearly 
all were bogus. That's why they came to me to help them with 
filtering-out the scammers.  So, when I say that I will only forward 
"serious offers", I'm serious.  And, this is the limit of my 
involvement with this find.  That, and helping to get this iron 
classified and made "official".

>
> You can see some of those photos here:
> http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2018/apr18.htm
>
> If seriously interested, please contact me off-List.
> Thank you for your time, and I hope you enjoy the photos,
> Bob V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2018 news

2018-02-18 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list

Thank you, Zelimir, as always for organizing the show and keeping us
informed.

Best as ever - Matthias

Am 18.02.2018 um 13:29 schrieb Zelimir Gabelica via Meteorite-list:

19th “ENSISHEIM METEORITE 2018” show news (Feb 18, 2018)

Dear meteorite friends, members of IMCA & Meteorite-Central List,
Please find preliminary news mainly concerning the new place of the 2018 show.

As it was already informally announced last June in Ensiheim, confirmed to many
of you on a leaflet distributed at the Munich Mineral show last October, and
also officially announced this year in the 2018 calendar of world mineral shows
in the Lapis journal January issue and on a separate Lapis booklet, our 19th
meteorite show edition had to be tentatively shifted to another building, due
to important works in the Regency palace where an elevator (lift) is to be
built. These works will start in the forthcoming weeks and should last at least
one year.

The address of the new (provisional) show hall is :

Gymnase Communal, Rue de Colmar, F-68190 ENSISHEIM.

To satisfy many inquiries regarding the precise location of the new show hall,
here are more details.

The new building is located in the middle of a large park, about 450 m (« as
the crow flies”) from the Regency palace.
Roughly when you reach “downtown Ensisheim”, drive straight through the main
street (“Rue de la première Armée”), ignore the Regency palace and the “Domaine
du Moulin hotel” that are on your right, cross the bridge and proceed straight
200-250 m through “Rue de la Gare” up to the first large roundabout (traffic
circle) where you take the 3rd exit, Rue de Colmar, thus on the left from “Rue
de la Gare”.

The entrance is immediately on your left and you can enter by car the large yard (which is surrounded by “Rue de la Gare” and “Rue de Colmar”).

You will spot 2 main buildings, the “Gymnase” (show hall) and the “Elisatia”
building (restaurant, lecture rooms etc)”.
Park the car at the appropriate places indicated by signs and located around
the buildings, (parking space is large enough).
In case, I can provide a detailed map as mail attachment, on request; just ask.

The next concern of many of you is the table setup and the dealers layout.
The “Gymnase Communal” involves a large 40 x 20 m sports hall where all the
tables will be aligned in (most probably 4) parallel rows in a way equivalent
to the Munich show halls. All tables are therefore equivalent and equally
enlightened by natural sunlight through roof windows.
I will try to arrange the tables’ layout as it was in the main Regency room,
respecting as much as possible the presence of the usual neighbors in each case.
There is space enough to accommodate all the 2017 participants and even to add
a few extra tables for possible newcomers, understanding that we do not wish to
overstep 55-60 tables.

The table renting conditions stay roughly the same as last year. The food and
lecture spaces are by far improved and much free space is now available for
side activities within the shadowed park around the show buildings.

Finally Ensiheim show dates are scheduled, as usually, the week preceding the
Ste-Marie Mineral & Gem show, thus:

- Professional day: Fri. June 15: 13:00–18:00
- Public: Sat. June 16: 9:30–18:30 and Sun. June 17: 9:30–16:30

More news will be provided soon after we have a committee meeting this late
February.
From now on, you are free to officially apply for your booth (write to me,
preferably by mail, as I am currently very seldom available on phone).

Thank you for your constant interest for our event!

My ever friendly regards to everybody.

Zelimir

Re: [meteorite-list] Sericho Individuals available in Tucson next week -AD

2018-01-19 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Dear Bruno & Carine,

I tried to answer your mail privately, but my attempts ended all with 
"Mail delivery failed".


When you read this, please contact and provide me with a working email 
address of yours.


Thanks, best regards - Matthias


Am 19.01.2018 um 17:42 schrieb info via Meteorite-list:


Dear List Members,

We hope you are all doing well, our very best for 2018 to all of you !

Here are the specimens of Sericho individuals we will exhibit next 
week in our room HTCC # 307


http://www.meteorite.fr/en/forsale/Sericho.htm

give a visit and say hello to these beauties J

you will be surprised by their price/quality !

Sincerely,

Bruno & Carine

La Memoire de la Terre Sarl
The Earth's Memory LLC
France
www.meteorite.fr 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Odp: Current Sericho Habaswein Pallasite Prices

2018-01-17 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



I agree, Tomek. The quality in the case of Sericho seems to differ 
dramatically, depending on very different places the stones were enbedded.


The 2 pieces of /better/ quality (link 1): bidding has reached 42 $ for 
6.2 g respectively 51 $ for 14.6 g (and still 4 days to continue).


I would not recommand to wait until the worst and cheapest pieces appear 
on the market.


Best as ever

Matthias

Am 17.01.2018 um 16:48 schrieb Tomasz Jakubowski via Meteorite-list:

Dear List members
hard to say that price was drooped, pieces form link (showed by Adam) represent 
poor quality.
I am sure that quality pieces cost more per gram, no matter how large TKW is.

All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
www.collectingmeteorites.com
PTM, IMCA, MetSoc



Dnia Środa, 17 Stycznia 2018 07:57 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
 napisał(a)

It looks like the price of the Sericho/Habaswein Pallasite has dropped
down to about 36 cents a gram in some current cases for sliced/prepared
examples.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/238-gram-NEW-PALLASITE-METEORITE-END-CUT-KENYA-AFRICA-SARICHO-HABASWEIN-/232630006031?hash=item3629d4310f%3Ag%3AedcAAOSwALtaWt6-=true=p3naGH9mW7Ka57JHRQ%252BBALCfJYE%253D_cvip=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/itm/132-gram-NEW-PALLASITE-METEORITE-FULL-SLICE-KENYA-AFRICA-SARICHO-HABASWEIN-/232630002151?hash=item3629d421e7%3Ag%3AJ40AAOSwp7taWt4J=true=p3naGH9mW7Ka57JHRQ%252BBALCfJYE%253D_cvip=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


I am waiting for some good buys on Martian material next. I will be
looking at the shows.

Adam

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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-10 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Sale of lumps of coal suspended pending further notice ; -)


Am 10.01.2018 um 11:10 schrieb Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list:
Hmmm... diamonds formed from shock with the Earth's atmosphere or 
ground? Really? Can't say I'm convinced but happy to be proven wrong. 
Although if I'm wrong I'm climbing up a tree and going to start 
dropping lumps of coal... ;)


Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
IMCA #3085
www.imca.cc
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From: Gmail via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles 
solar system status quo
To: Tommy , Met-List 




Seems strange that it has not been classified or published in the 
MetBull which makes me question any of the findings. If I understand 
correctly, meteoriticists/researchers cannot publish papers until the 
meteorite has been published in the MetBull.


Mendy Ouzillou

On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your thoughts?

Regards!

Tom


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180109112437.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD- $0.99 Meteorite Auctions ending HUGE Pallasite, Lunar, Iron & More

2017-10-31 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



When I click on the 404 g Habaswein - which btw. is meanwhile officially 
classified as 'Sericho' - , I get the 6g lunar breccia NWA 11266.


And the 528 g SA fragment is far from being "world class".

So, sorry: not really convinced.

Best regards - Matthias


Am 29.10.2017 um 15:46 schrieb John higgins via Meteorite-list:

Dear fellow Meteorite enthusiasts,

This is John Higgins of Outer Space Rocks Meteorites here with another 
unbelievable set of eBay auctions started at only $0.99


You won't find many World Class Specimens sold these days with NO 
RESERVE so best of luck with the bidding!


HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

6 GRAM LUNAR FELDSPATHIC REGOLITH MELT BRECCIA METEORITE NWA 11266
https://tinyurl.com/yca3utbg

404 GRAM SERICHO HABASWEIN PALLASITE METEORITE
https://tinyurl.com/yca3utbg


321 GRAM SERICHO HABASWEIN PALLASITE METEORITE
https://tinyurl.com/ydy78ll8

528 GRAM SIKHOTE ALIN IRON METEORITE WORLD CLASS SPECIMEN PURCHASED 
FROM GEOFF NOTKIN

https://tinyurl.com/ybyxectc


ALSO VARIOUS EXTRATERRESTRIAL DELIGHTS!!!
https://goo.gl/294ruU

Truly many of these highly collectible meteorites you would expect to 
see in a Heritage or Christie's Auction not on eBay!


Thank you so much and have the greatest day!
John Higgins, IMCA 9822

President, Outer Space Rocks LLC
www.OuterSpaceRocks.com
Sign up for my private sales group on 
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/outerspacerocks/
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Re: [meteorite-list] First recorded visit to this solar system by an interstellar object

2017-10-30 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Thanks, Bob, for the fish!


Am 30.10.2017 um 07:59 schrieb Robert Verish via Meteorite-list:

Rob has made a good point about this object not being a comet, and for that 
matter, the presumption that this thing is natural and unguided.
Personally, I am very disappointed that this object wasn't a comet and that it didn't leave a trail of dust 
and gases, that one day we could have captured in a Stardust-like "sample return".  But 
unfortunately, the darn thing got away quick and clean.  And equally unfortunate, that this has opened the 
flood-gate for all sorts of "alien-craft" theories from a variety of fringe cults. I find it 
astronomically coincidental that this "fly-by" occurred so close to the 20th anniversary of the 
Heaven's Gate mass suicide, a concurrence which was not missed by our local news outlets, since this event 
happened here in Rancho Bernardo.

NASA has admitted to having problems identifying what the object was and where 
it originated, which only sparks the imagination as to possible scenarios.
What if this is just the first of many objects coming our way, as if we are 
entering an intersteller asteroid shower?
What if this object was actually an asteroid populated with alien colonists in suspended 
animation on their way to colonize Pegasus 5, using our Sun as a gravity assist?  How do 
we know that intersteller travel doesn't require a number of "jumps" 
interspersed with gravity assists and redirections?
Or worse, like a page out of a science fiction novel,  what if this the first 
of many asteroid/crafts on their way to other points in our galaxy?  What if 
our inner solar system is in the middle of some proposed intersteller freeway?  
Maybe our home planet is part of a low-rent district, which will eventually be 
under an overpass, which is part of an exit ramp for I5 (Intersteller Freeway 
ramp for Pegasus 5)!
Only time will tell,  Bob V.

“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and 
demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in 
Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to 
lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about 
it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for 
heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know.
I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, 
that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy


  On ‎Sunday‎, ‎October‎ ‎29‎, ‎2017‎ ‎12‎:‎29‎:‎20‎ ‎PM, Matson, Rob D. via 
Meteorite-list  wrote:

Hi Mike,

It is indeed an intriguing interloper, with much speculation on MPML as to its
possible origin and the dynamics of its ejection from its original star system.
Its spectral characteristics (admittedly limited spectral resolution so far) 
seem
more consistent with an asteroid than a comet, though there is no real
dividing line between an asteroid and an inactive comet -- more a continuum
between the two. Suffice to say the object is "red" with no strong spectral
peaks or troughs in the visible band.

One small correction to your post below -- the object certainly originated
in our galaxy, or one of the dwarf galaxies that is gravitationally bound to it
(e.g. the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy). There has been insufficient time for the
body to travel intergalactic distances, even from as close as Andromeda.
Unfortunately, we will never know the identity of the star system from which
it originated.  --Rob

From: Meteorite-list [meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] on behalf of 
Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list 
[meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:30 AM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: EXTERNAL: [meteorite-list] First recorded visit to this solar system 
by a comet-like interstellar object

First recorded visit in this solar system by a visiting interstellar
object of unknown origin and composition. This comet-like object is
moving at a very high rate of speed (44 km/sec) and is entering our
cosmic neighborhood from an unusual angle that is nearly perpendicular
to the ecliptic.

This object does not come from our Asteroid Belt, Kuiper Belt, or Oort
Cloud. It is an interloper from the vast empty space between the
galaxies and stars. This comet-like object has streaked through our
solar system like a rifle shot and is now continuing on it's journey
through deep space in the direction of the Pegasus constellation.

Unlike most comets or asteroids, we Earthlings will never see this
strange visitor again, as it's speed and trajectory will carry it out
and away from our solar system into the distant reaches of
interstellar space.

Link - 
http://earthsky.org/space/a2017u1-comet-asteroid-interstellar-beyond-solar-system

--

Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD

2017-10-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Thanks for your kind words, Anne. Shocking, I just discovered a 
two-headed bear, too.



Am 12.10.2017 um 20:19 schrieb Anne Black:

THANK YOU!

And yes Matthias it is a great Mundrabilla!
But bear or prehistoric Venus?Hard to tell.

Again thanks.

Good thing that Matthias and Jurgen have so many great pieces to show!

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-Original Message-
From: Mattias Bärmann 
To: Anne Black ; meteorite-list 
; valparint 
Sent: Thu, Oct 12, 2017 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD


One moment, please ... here: http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp


Am 12.10.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Anne Black:

HHhhmm..

I don't see it. Not on the MetList and not on the IMCA mailing list.
And not in Spam.

And AOL is working, I received plenty of other emails!
Just not that one(s)!


Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-Original Message-
From: Mattias Bärmann 
To: Anne Black ; meteorite-list 
; valparint 
Sent: Thu, Oct 12, 2017 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD


Today's MPOD is on the Tucson Meteorites website, as usual, Anne.


Am 12.10.2017 um 19:01 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list:

Hey Paul!!!

Where is the Picture of the Day??
Computer problem
Webmaster problem?

Or did you really run out of pictures?   Everybody, send pictures.

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD

2017-10-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



One moment, please ... here: http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp


Am 12.10.2017 um 20:07 schrieb Anne Black:

HHhhmm..

I don't see it. Not on the MetList and not on the IMCA mailing list.
And not in Spam.

And AOL is working, I received plenty of other emails!
Just not that one(s)!


Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-Original Message-
From: Mattias Bärmann 
To: Anne Black ; meteorite-list 
; valparint 
Sent: Thu, Oct 12, 2017 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD


Today's MPOD is on the Tucson Meteorites website, as usual, Anne.


Am 12.10.2017 um 19:01 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list:

Hey Paul!!!

Where is the Picture of the Day??
Computer problem
Webmaster problem?

Or did you really run out of pictures?   Everybody, send pictures.

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD

2017-10-12 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Today's MPOD is on the Tucson Meteorites website, as usual, Anne.


Am 12.10.2017 um 19:01 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list:

Hey Paul!!!

Where is the Picture of the Day??
Computer problem
Webmaster problem?

Or did you really run out of pictures?   Everybody, send pictures.

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko 175kg - 2nd largest

2017-03-10 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Awesome iron thunderbolt, Marcin. Exceptional piece.

Regards - Matthias


Am 10.03.2017 um 23:40 schrieb Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list:

Hello list
I have very special specimen to offer.
Its the 2nd largest Morasko iron meteorite IAB. Main mass 260kg is 
located in Poznan University and its not available. Specimen 175kg its 
the largest private owned Morasko right now.


https://youtu.be/XrqoZnaputQ

Im looking for serious collector or museum. Specime is legaly owned 
with export permission.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]



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Re: [meteorite-list] Murchison meteorite continues to dazzle scientists

2016-12-29 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Tough Australian outback-Moms who preserve little aliens in bottling jars.

Best - Matthias


Am 29.12.2016 um 14:53 schrieb Tommy via Meteorite-list:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-29/murchison-meteorite/8113520


Regards!

Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] Bolivia Meteorite Adventure

2016-12-14 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Great report, Greg, thank you, highly welcome. The 35 kg stone, powdered 
with reddish Bolivian soil, is truely a dry dream of any met-aficionado. 
Breathtakingly beautiful.


With best regards - Matthias


Am 14.12.2016 um 05:50 schrieb Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list:

Bolivia Meteorite Adventure
By Gregory M. Hupe


On November 20, 2016 a massive meteorite event took place over 
Aiquile, Bolivia at approximately 5:00 p.m. local time.  While still 
daylight, Quechua Indian eyewitnesses saw ‘corkscrew’ smoke trails and 
heard ‘whooshing’ noises followed by sonic booms and then stones 
literally falling at their feet!


Michael Farmer and I went to Aiquile to hunt for meteorites and 
attempt to acquire stones from the inhabitants. Things didn’t quite 
work out that way…


Welcome to Aiquile Bolivia.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia1.jpg

Possibly the main mass, an approximately 35-kilogram impactor.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia2.jpg

Town Square in center of Aiquile.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia3.jpg

Charango guitar with caballero and bull sculpture in the town square.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia4.jpg

It would take us over two weeks after the fall to fly to Bolivia due 
to Mike’s yearly show commitment in Japan.  Just 24 hours at home 
after returning from the show, Michael flew to Florida to meet me.  On 
December 8th we began our journey to South America from Miami.  Our 
travels would take us by air to Aiquile by way of La Paz and then on 
to Cochabamba and then by private hire to Aiquile.  With no sleep for 
over 30 hours of travel from home to the dusty town near the 
strewnfield, we were exhausted but too excited to rest. We went right 
to work meeting with fellow meteorite hunter, Dario Ruiz, who had been 
there for two weeks. He introduced us to individuals about hunting for 
meteorites or buying some, but our hopes were quickly dampened by the 
news of the town’s government putting up road blocks to deny access to 
the strewnfield.  It turns out that the officials were confiscating 
stones from the Quechua finders which put them in a panic and afraid 
to talk to outsiders.  Things quickly became complicated.


Dario, Michael and Greg in Aiquile.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia5.jpg

View looking up the Aiquile strewnfield from the Quechua trail.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia6.jpg

Cactus are a common beauty in the strewnfield.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia7.jpg

We realized we were not going to be able to hunt for stones ourselves 
without the threat of arrest, or far worse, physical harm from 
protective villagers we were told may use force to stop outsiders from 
hunting. Knowing this, we immediately went to ‘Plan B’ and were 
granted secret meetings with owners of pieces from the fall.  To our 
thrill and amazement, we were able to see several stones ranging from 
small broken fragments to large kilo-sized pieces.  Throughout the 
48-hours we were on site we were told of several large pieces included 
a 50-kilo ‘Puzzle Stone’ which we believe to be just rumor as is 
consistent with most falls.


Reflecting upon a fresh meteorite.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia8.jpg

100-plus gram fragment.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia9.jpg

Same 100-gram fragment displaying ‘Slickensides’.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia10.jpg

Interior indicating a shocked high metal H Chondrite.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia11.jpg

On our second day we had an early start with a scheduled meeting to 
see some stones, but being on ‘Bolivia time’ we sat for several hours 
waiting, waiting and waiting some more.  To keep us from leaving and 
going to other contacts, our new friend entertained us with some 
guitar play dressed in his caballero ranch clothing made of javelina, 
lama and other durable animal skins.  Aiquile is known as the ‘Capitol 
of Charango’ (guitar) where the guitar is manufactured. It was nice to 
enjoy this flavor of music high in the mountain village.


Local Quechua playing a Charango guitar.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia12.jpg

Video of the music of Bolivian friendship:
http://www.naturesvault.net/Videos/AiquileBoliviaVideo1.mp4

Newly fallen meteorite with Charango guitar.
http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia13.jpg

Noon was soon upon us with nobody bearing stones for us to consider so 
we walked down the street for lunch and chose one of a few street 
vendors offering potatoes and sausage.  We ventured to the local 
market and town square for a little tourism while we were there.  The 
meal was very tasty and the sightseeing was nice but we were eager to 
get back

Re: [meteorite-list] iron meteorite natural color

2016-11-24 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



For the ultimate oriented-look, dear Marcin, it might be recommendable 
to use a chainsaw.



Am 24.11.2016 um 23:42 schrieb Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list:

Hello,
I have a question.
As we know an iron meteorite, such like Campo del Cielo for example, 
have a black surface.
I have here a deeply rusted Campo, I'm planning to remove rust with a 
sand blasting process.
But with this I will obtain a greysh surface, like naked iron, the 
same color of a slice.
Not really a natural color for the exterior of an iron meteorite and 
also not aestetically pretty, looks too artificial for me.

There is something to do for restore the original black color?
Or it's better to remove the rust with a traditional steel brush, 
maybe with a drill ???


Tips for mechanical or chemical process are welkomme!!!
I can try with the classical NaOh bath, I have also Phosphoric, 
Citric and Oxalic acid :)


Thanks
xx
Francesco


Hah good question Francesco. But what is natural color of meteorite at 
all ? Desert sandblasted NWA is not a real looking meteorite? Should I 
paint them black to be looking like a real meteorites ? Poor Dhofars
This is what Im fighting long time. Strange stereotype that meteorite 
MUST BE BLACK outside, WHY ?


When You like Your girlfrend ? When he smile to You with his pretty 
face or when she put ton of Max Factor chemicals on it??


I have always strange taste, different than most of collectors. For 
me, if specimen have crust must be black or black with rusty patina. 
If meteorite have no more crust like Campo, why to "paint" it to black 
to looks like Sikhote ? Then You will see paint, not Your meteorite. I 
only can imagine what strange things they do to clean Campo and look 
it like that. LOL


OK now a few tips.
As I understand Your Campo is a complete specimen ? To remove deep 
rust You must use electrochemical cleaning + brush + small hammer. 
Then You will get mostly cleaned meteorite with BLACK remains of rust 
that will make Your meteorite looks REAL.Then heat it and put alot of 
oil to make it looks fresh and oriented :)


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]



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Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite

2016-09-13 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Nice pic of the newbie ...

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1047905-galleryV9-xonf-1047905.jpg



Am 13.09.2016 um 16:10 schrieb almitt2--- via Meteorite-list:


 Hi List,

 All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now
 suspended!

 Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to
 "weigh" in.

 --AL Mitterling

 Mitterling Meteorites

  Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
:


Hi,

My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks

about El

Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at  28,840

kilos. The

newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos.

Thanks,

Peter

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM
To: metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite


https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 


0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world

This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg

as the

official measure.

Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has

always

been confusing it seems.

2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book.  Still amazing...

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295



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On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:


Just a journalistic failure to fact check...  The original El

Chaco is

said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg).  They need to weigh this "Gancedo"

more

accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from

the

Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT:


see the recovery of the find here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I
Best
Doug


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To: Sterling K. Webb ;

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Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite

I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but

I'm

confused.

This new find is 34 tons.

El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66.

I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco?

Referencing the book
The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich

and

Nicolas Goldberg
2012
Page 45


Rob Wesel
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To: 
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> List,
>
> A 34-ton iron has been found
> in the Campo del Cielo region
> of Argentina:
>

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776

>
> The meteorite was found on
> Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo,
> 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires,
> Mario Vesconi, president of the
> Astronomy Association of Chaco,
> told the daily newspaper Clarin."
>
> "While we hoped for weights above
> what had been registered, we did
> not expect it to exceed 30 [metric]
> tons," Vesconi noted, adding that
> "the size and weight [about 68,000
> pounds] surprised us."
>
> "The meteorite will be weighed
> again to ensure an accurate
> measurement. The largest
> meteorite ever found is Hoba,
> weighing 66 tons, in Namibia."
>
> See also:
>

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere

> d-in-arg
> entina-at-ancient-m/
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hit pear on tree:)

2016-09-06 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



This is not a scam, Mike, it's old Swiss tradition. National hero 
Wilhelm Tell penetrated an apple on the head of his little son with an 
arrow made of Twannberg iron.


Believe me : - )

Matthias


Am 07.09.2016 um 00:22 schrieb Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list:

This is a scam on a whole new level.

http://m.wcvb.com/news/man-says-pear-on-tree-was-hit-by-meteorite/41536838

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Incredible Wine Alert: Barry Schuler's Meteor

2016-08-22 Thread Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list



Hi Doug, listers & listesses , -

in this context I would like to suggest /Domaine Du Météore/ from the 
Languedoc, France. It is far from being proven, but the grapes are at 
least cultivated in a crater, of which origin ever:


http://languedocwinetales.blogspot.de/2010/10/meteoric-faugeres.html

I know the different sorts of red wine of this domaine, they are superb 
and the price is well appropriate.


And no, I am not the owner nor a relative or friend nor a shareholder 
(unfortunately).


Best regards

Matthias


Am 22.08.2016 um 04:55 schrieb MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list:

"Barry Schuler's Meteor"

OK, I aslo had been hearing about this ... let me share what a quick check up 
on it yielded:  Nothing meteoric about this besides a 5 cent label (Does the 
owner collect meteorites?  I dunno).

Looks to me like the "meteor" name was was inspired from the company Medior, 
Inc. in the 1990's.  Mr. Schuler went bankrupt with his prior Internet bubble company.  
Not content with that, Medior was incorporated as a company that took its name from 
adding *media* content ... mainly to Apple and AOL as it turned out.  Eventually AOL took 
it over and with him in management worked through inflating valuations until they could 
take over Time-Warner in the world's most lopsided, poorly made merger imaginable.

At that time AOL (which included Medior attempting to "develop AOL further) was 
widely hated by almost everyone on the Internet due to their marketing and billing 
practices.  When AOL crashed and burned, the owner's golden parachute and his 1990's 
sweet dream in life was to make it big and retire in a vineyard with his business 
partner he married then.  The first commercial single-origin bottles (vs sold to 
blenders) were produced in 2005 and and more quantities in 2006.  Since 2013, the 
2006 is supposed to be entering its prime, which should continue another 8 years or 
so.  Since the price has been edging down it looks like it is not doing as well as 
they hoped.

Anyway, the meteor business is purely a marketing label, unless you consider 
all the river rocks (could be viewed as meteor-wrongs!) that were scattered 
throughout the vineyard, there is nothing interesting here.

 From the folks who brought you AOL, and made you hate it, over $100 per bottle shipped 
(at 59% off "list" today only), the only meteoric thing I can find to review 
about this wine is its price ... *gulp* (gulps on sale are $10 ea.)...

That said, if you think it tastes good, that would be thanks to the couple 
working the land that put their heart and soul into administering the place and 
I wish them well as all hard-working American farmers!  Disclaimer:  Never 
tasted it, and probably never will.

I predict that wine futures of this beverage will crash and burn in its time 
... like any good meteor, after the lights go out, just like AOL which 
incidentally is currently an excellent service for economical email under new 
management that is no longer looking at creating a modern-day tulipmania and 
cashing in before brick and mortar folk have time to mull over what's happening 
:-)

Kindest wishes
Doug



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