[meteorite-list] Cerro Mesa Main mass
Cerro Mesa analysis has been done, they are doing the write up. Does anyone know the location of the main mass? And/or how to contact Luis Bruschini? thanks! -mt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cerro Mesa meteorite info
Hey all. I've been lurking for a while, but now I have a question for you all. Back in 2008 I acquired some Cerro Mesa (Provisional) L6. At this time, it still has not shown up in the MetBul. Does anyone know what happened? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 3rd Report from Stewnfield in Edgewood Texas
Past 2 reports didn't permit me to post pics, so I'll post via blog. http://texasmeteoritelab.com/3rd-report-from-the-edgewood-strewnfield __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas
Nothing has been found where the radar data said it might be. Torvald and Donavan have left the zone replaced by Stephen Thompson out of Fredricksburg TX who is an expert on Sonic Boom characteristics. I've been lucky enough to get some media attention to try to motivate the public to assist here is today's interview on TV. This is the 5 TV interview I've given since arriving. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/video/6713580-meteor-hunters-scouring-north-texas/ We spent the day interviewing more witnesses & compiling and extending the range of sonic boom farther to the east to include Wills Point, and southern Lake Tawakanii. We'll do some field samplings tomorrow east of 19. Also as a warning. I've heard from a local that the landowner who owns the land in the north where the upper radar blip is, has gotten very hostile to all outsiders. The local warned me to tell everyone to stay off that property. He thinks the landowner may shoot to wound or maim. So I'd like everyone to take that threat to heart. At this point, we have two new important observations and think the strewnfield to be east of 19 now. At this point, there have been no Z sightings, but the Black Panther remains a constant threat. 5 dogs were killed. Also, the park rangers at the state park warned us that a mountain lion has been spotted in the area. Some sonic boom activity has been traced back to some individual using some kind of reactive explosive that detonates when shot by a bullet. The local police has informed us this has been a bit of a problem for weeks. Consequently, it really screws up our acoustical survey. and a mention and big hand to Dirk Ross, David Gonzales, and Marc Fries for giving us back support. -mccartney taylor & stephen thompson (meteorite hunter) (offical panther bait) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Report from the Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas
I seem to be the first boots on the ground at the strewnfield. No stones have been found, but the locals heard the sonic boom. Sonic blast focus is here, Doppler best guess is here. I'm sharing information because I've given it great thought, and am convinced that my best interest are served if competing teams share find information. I plan to write a paper covering this aspect in game theory as it is a interesting n-person, non zero sum game where cooperation (on meteorite locations) serves everyone's interest. Best guess on Strewnfield : East of Edgewood before you get to HWY 19. More info - ask me when you get here. Terrain: Mostly Ranch land, local grass is just greening up. Most ground is excellent rated at 70-100% visibility on my Taylor score. Rain was light in this area yesterday. Locals: Friendly but generally poor, some are extremely resistant to visitors. Give those wide berth as this is Meth Lab country and it is a real big problem here. Housing: Best base is south in Canton. I'd recommend the Best Western as they have nice rooms for $80 with a fridge and breakfast. I'll be here, come join the fray. A motel 6 and a Days Inn are also here. I think the Motel 6 will be noisy as it is RIGHT next to the highway. Food: Several options, Lumber Yard cafe in Edgewood, several others and more 10 miles away in Canton. Dangers: See comment on Meth Labs above. Add to it feral hogs, the local population exploded out here and they are aggressive. We've been told we should pack a pistol twice today. There has also been attacks by a black panther here that has the locals skittish. I've heard reports from hairy toothless rednecks and from a sweet little old lady. The panther has killed several sheep and goats, and rumors persist it may be responsible for missing persons reports. And of course, there is always the Z problem. Fun: We've found a trapper who trapped a couple of feral hogs, my team wants to buy one for a pig roast party this weekend. If you are out here, do you want to come? ps. If you are new to Meteorite Hunting, or have no idea of the Z problem, watch the video below. :0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQyLEbCdn8w -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Spoof Mocumentary up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQyLEbCdn8w "Secret Dangers of Meteorite Hunting" 8 minutes. PG rated. It is up! For those who want to know the dark underbelly of meteorite hunting, this is for you. The true dangers of meteorite hunters everywhere, in every country. Flamethrower and nades not included. Some dis-assembly required. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Mocumentary coming soon.
The "Secret Dangers of Meteorite Hunting" has been finished and will be released very soon on my YouTube cahnnel, outofablueskymeteor. Filmed mostly in Denver and Austin, with weeks in production and a budget of almost $1.98, this highly anticipated short mocumentary will be released this week before Denver. Mainly as a thank you to those who volunteered at the Show in Denver, we'll release it before I arrive. This year, it is rumored I'll be working on another secret project. Find me at the show for you chance at fame, fortune, and the chance to fight off paparazzi. Starring Proud Tom, with supporting actors of Graham Wilson, Hans Koser, Blaine and Blake Reed, a guy with a flamethrower, and many more I'll keep you posted. Join us at facebook.com/Outofabluesky __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Virus Warning - Rubin Garcia fake email
I just received a fake email from Rubin Garcia. It only has a link to a webpage with a hostile script. I run Linux, so the attack didn't affect me, but I'm not sure about Windows. DO NOT OPEN the email. I've tried to contact Rubin that his yahoo email account is likely hacked, but couldn't reach him. Can someone closer to him contact him about his yahoo email (meteoritem...@yahoo.com)? -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Possible meteorite" found in Newport, Arkansas Area
As I was mentioned in the article, I should respond. The finder found a hematite nodule. The finder and the reporter contacted me. The reporter confirmed that the confirmation of a meteorwrong won't make the paper. As a sidenote, as Newport is my grandparents hometown, I've been after the Newport pallasite for almost 10 years. -mt Original Message Subject: [meteorite-list] "Possible meteorite" found in Newport, Arkansas Area From: "Paul H." Date: Wed, June 01, 2011 6:26 am To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Area man finds possible meteorite by Chris Walker Independent, Newport, Arkansas, May 26, 2011 http://www.newportindependent.com/news/x1836098748/Area-man-finds-possible-meteorite Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites" on the Sikhote Alin
The 3rd episode of Insights on Meteorites has been released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0 Finally the answer to the question, "how do you pronounce the #@#$ thing?" and other juicy tidbits... -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video up of Episode 2 - Insights on Meteorites
The latest episode of Insights on Meteorites is now released! The topic of this episode is meteorite dealers advice to new collectors. The link is only available thru Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/OutofaBlueSky Be sure to click the "Like" button while you are there! Video description --- "Meteorite Collecting can be daunting. Here is the advice from several dealers for new meteorite collectors. Filmed at the Denver Meteorite Show in 2010. Includes Advice from Blaine Reed, Mike Jensen, Marlin Cilz, Viacheslav "Spock" Kalachev, Adam Aaronson, and John Humphries." __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Video Series Launched - Insights on Meteorites
I've finally produced the first episode in a series of Meteorite videos. Based on interviews with scientists, dealers, hunters, and perhaps unsavory characters (did Madoff collect irons?) inside the meteorite world. I'll be posting this video series, commentary, and documentaries on my Argentina and Brazil expeditions on the official facebook page, be sure to "like" while you are there! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Out-of-a-Blue-Sky-Meteorites/139112839475961?v=wall For those dealers who were in Denver, I'm still cranking on those, you'll see them out soon. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower Count
I swore I saw a faint and brief (1-2 sec) aurora borealis last night. But this is Austin, Texas and they never get down this far. Did anyone else see it? odd odd. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower Count
In Austin, TX in mag 3.5 sky. Observed 29 in 2 hours, with 2 fireballs brighter than Sirus. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video on Meteorite Identification in Field
I've created a stone meteorite identification video of good quality. With the success of Meteorite Men, the universities, labs, and some dealers including me are suddenly receiving a big influx of meteorwrong submissions. I wanted to create a video of instruction that any of us could redirect the submitters to. Hopefully, the video will convince 3/4 that they don't have a meteorite, and they don't get mad at us for dashing their $1,000,000 hope. Even if we can filter out 50% of the submitters, the community is way ahead in avoiding lost time. It is hosted on youtube, and they provide a very nice html snippet if you wish to embed this video in your webpage. Ideally the page the visitors read before they contact you about their worthless rocks. The link is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhlbntm3-tE -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Denver Dealers - Thank You
To all the Denver dealers I interviewed. A great big thank you! I got some great video of advice for new collectors that will help bring in new collectors and keep them. I'll be putting the footage together for a orientation video that should help the industry as a whole. As to the second video, the Spoof project, Thank you all who participated in that. All I can say now, is I damn near laughed my butt off in reviewing the footage. Give me a few months to edit that up properly and release it. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Denver Attendees- Video Request
I am working on two different video projects about meteorites. The first is Serious the second is FUN. Dealers - I am wanting to casually interview any and all meteorite dealers I can and ask some simple questions: 1. What makes collecting meteorites interesting or exciting? 2. What do you recommend new collectors think about or buy? 3. What path or mentality should collectors follow as they grow as collectors? (I will include websites on the video to any Dealer I'll interview, to help draw traffic to you) Collectors - 1. Why is collecting meteorites fun? 2. What is your favorite specimen? Also, I will need to receive a release from anyone I interview, so I can use the video I shoot. The release is either verbal permission to use the interview video or written permission. I'll bring the release with me. The first video is going to be a pro-meteorite collecting documentary short that will raise awareness for meteorite collecting. The Second video is going to be a playful Spoof mockumentary, intended to be released on Youtube on April Fools or embedded as a secret Easter egg on a DVD project I have cooking. Essentially, anyone who agrees to participate will be asked a single question and you must respond with a complete dead-pan serious manner. No cracking up, laughing, or smiling. I refuse to release the question on the met-list, but you may email me if you will be in Denver and would like to participate. There is a sheet of answers that you will be allowed to respond with, unless you can crack me up with a better response. Anne Black and Greg Hupe, you have had custom responses written for you. FYI. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD correction - Buzzard Coulee slices on ebay
whoops. the link changed. correct link is below. -=--- Finally got to cut a few slices of Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek and Deport, Texas iron. http://stores.ebay.com/Out-of-a-Blue-Sky-Meteorite-Gallery -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Buzzard Coulee slices on ebay
Finally got to cut a few slices of Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek and Deport, Texas iron. http://stores.ebay.com/More-Books-from-the-Batcave -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geologists in Texas
I'm looking for any meteorite collecting geologists in Texas. Specifically, one who knows his meteoritical geology inside and out and could give a lecture on it to fellow geologists. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - Armchair meteorite hunt - Spot the Meteorite
How many meteorites do you see? http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97 The photo is at full native resolution to give you the best chance to spot'em. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Buzzard Coulee from OutofaBlueSky
The web page is now HUGE with images and may take a while to load http://www.outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66:buzzard-coulee My patron who gets first pick has made his choice. I'm now officially opening the doors on the Buzzard Coulee meteorite shop! Those who have asked for stones on hold will receive an email with an invoice, confirming your order. We've finished adding all the photos, cataloging, and grading. I still need to put some prices on the oriented pieces, which is an art to grade and price. Most of the stones are at $12/g, with small < 13g stones and oriented going for a premium. I've got 2 dozen stones already put on hold for people, so if you want a cheap Buzzard stone, you better email me NOW. best! -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tanzania Expedition Notes
I've updated my expedition notes to Tanzania 2005. yea, I'm bad, it took me 1/2 a decade to do it, but I got it done. http://www.outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=94:tanzania-meteorite-expedition&catid=42:meteorite-adventures I'll get Argentina, West, Sweden, and some other adventures up this spring. -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - McCartney near Plane Impactor
Not the crater I was looking for. I was about a mile away when the plane hit. Just wanted my tires rotated. Drove by the carnage on the way home. I got to see the aftermath and breathe the smoke. I had just gotten my new camcorder this morning so I had it with me. Video of what I saw is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foDXmALwwM8 -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Permitting Snafu
Sonny and I were at Buzzard Coulée the week it fell, as you all know. We recovered a good number of stones before the big snow hit. Permits were then applied for. I returned as the snow melted in April. I alone recovered hundreds of stones, giving half to the landowner, I still had over 2kg. These post winter stones were submitted for exportation as well. The Export Tribunal repeatedly delayed export and lumped the early permit with the later permit, then delayed both again and lumped those permit apps with other export apps from other hunters. Finally, the Tribunal noted that there was a good deal of material so the very late permit apps are apparently getting approved with no hold-back delays. Hence, Geoff Notkin and others have received their stones. Ya, ya, I know it is not fair, but that's how the cookie crumbles. As best I can tell, my stones will be arriving in March 2010. I recovered many that have orientation, most complete individuals 10-30g, and a few 50,100, 150 g stones. They will be available on www.outofabluesky.com at that time. The in situ stone pics and photos of the trip are on picassa http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tahoka and Met-Bul listings via Ted Bunch
Fear not, Pete. I recovered the Tahoka from a farmer who found it hoeing. If you search google, you'll find my field trip report on it. It was submited to NAU via Ted Bunch along with many other of my meteorite finds. However, several years have passed and the only meteorite that has made the Met-Bul is Dumont that I submitted via UCLA. So according to Ted Bunch, he submitted the paperwork to the system and someone upstream of him has done nothing with it. I believe it is not just me, ask Mike Farmer about this as well. At this point, I consider the Ted Bunch submission channel systemically broken. Not his fault, mind you. So I am at a quandary as to whether I should re-submit all my finds again for the last 7 years and to whom I should submit them too. Any ideas what to do? -mt --- Does anybody have the skinny scoop on the gillions of sales of the Texas Meteorite Tahoka from Lynn County Texas? There are almost always a Fleabay auction for Tahoka, but it's conspicuous absence from the Met-Bul gives me the Willies. Is this a verboden meteorite per IMCA guidelines??? Pete IMCA 1733 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Liberal hole excavated
http://208.62.60.4/78/printer_1564.shtml This hole was dug. Scatter pattern shows where the digger stood. You don't dump dirt on your own feet while digging. Second, the whole defies the ratio for a explosive impact of 10:1. Even if it was perfect, you have to have a supersonic entry to make it thus the neighbors would here a massive bang. So the hole is not a crater. However, if the object was dug out, it would explain the incongruencies. The hole is a non crater, as for the authenticity of the event, I am undecided. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Deport Iron Slices & endcuts
I've made several slices and endcuts and have them available http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=5&project=17&It emid=58 20% off anyone from the met-list. All of these are meteorites I recovered in 2006 in Deport. All have been treated for chloride removal in a galvanic electrolytic process similar to the process used for preserving shipwreck iron. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Request for Nininger letter on Newport
If anyone has a collection of Nininger letters, I'm requesting a search for the one regarding the Newport meteorite. Just after the Paragould fall, the media frenzy alerted some farmer to check the iron rock he plowed up. The farmer contacted Nininger, I suspect, via mail. I've been to Newport dozens of times on social visits, and have tried to find clues where this damn this is. The old folks at the retirement home only remember one was found. I'm going to be stuck in Newport again over Christmas, and desperately want a lead that I can start researching. After 8 years, I'm at a deadend on this. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Issue with etching via ferric choride
Having a bit of a problem on some etch jobs and having to re-etch a few specimens. How do you rinse/neutralize your ferric after the etch? I'm getting remnant staining and sometimes corrosion. I'm doing something wrong. Any ideas? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Polishing with Vibrating Laps
Has anyone successfully found a workable technique to polish using alcohol and a vibrating lap? And does anyone polish irons using a chloride free oil and a vib. lap? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Larry Lebofsky contact me
Your email bounces each time I tried. Contact me using another email. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Correction Pultusk Slices
Forgot to add the link, whoops! http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=45&It emid=58 >I've recently acquired and sliced 2 Pultusk stones that were recent finds > by a Polish hunter. > > 9g > 12g > 30g > 65g > > All at $8/g which is well below the $12-15 that one normally sees. > > 3 more slices coming. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Pultusk slices
I've recently acquired and sliced 2 Pultusk stones that were recent finds by a Polish hunter. 9g 12g 30g 65g All at $8/g which is well below the $12-15 that one normally sees. 3 more slices coming. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteoritics and Petroleum Engineering
Yes, I'm a petroleum engineer. Oddly I ran across a crossover between my two interests while doing research. I was not aware that the great Cantarell oil field enjoys high porosity due to the Breccia created from the mighty Chicxulub impactor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantarell_Field __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The embeded Sikhote clue on Velocity
This piece is an important clue on potential cosmic velocity residual at ground level. I encourage Matt to have this piece X-rayed in a lab (or in a doctors office - any Doc's out there with ideas?) to determine the depth of the penetration. Likely a Doc would get a kick out of this and do it in a couple of hours. 1. We know the height of trees are between 0-10 meters. 2. We know the incoming angle +/- 20 degrees from the famous painting. 3. We have an idea of the speed of a bullet hitting trees and their penetration. 4. We have an idea of the TKW of the iron Give this picture, the diameter of the projectile, a copy of the X-ray and some background to a Police or FBI specialist ballistics investigator and we could get a very good estimate of the velocity. Matt, if you get this X-rayed and we find a ballistics specialist to do the analysis, I'd be willing to write the white paper on this. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Skipper's Dad Co-Discovers a Comet!
When I briefly met Alan Hale, Jr aka The Skipper, the only observing he wanted to do was women. I don't think he could tell a planet from a star, but he sure liked watching the stellar objects of the female form divine. -mt Original Message > From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:01 PM > To: cyna...@charter.net > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Skipper's Dad Co-Discovers a Comet! > > What is truely amazing that Alan Hale co-discovered Hale-Bopp in 1995 > (fact), while Alan Hale, Sr. died in 1950 and Alan Hale, Jr. died in 1990. > > Wow! I do not think that they were related. > > Larry > > PS yes, I do think that the Thomas Bopp who left the list was the real > Bopp of Hale-Bopp. :( > > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Band saw blade for cutting irons
Who can recommend a brand and make of band saw blade for irons. Same for cutting a pallasite? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Russ Finney
Please contact me again off list. *sigh* -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Buzzard Coulee to hit the market?
No, read the auction. It clearly says the permit has not yet been issued. Original Message > From: Gary Fujihara > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:49 AM > To: MeteorList > Subject: [meteorite-list] First Buzzard Coulee to hit the market? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Buzzard-Coulee-Meteorite-18-8-gm-95-FC-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ270442978522QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef7a85cda&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_902wt_909 > > Are export licenses finally being issued? > > Gary Fujihara > AstroDay Institute > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 > (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com > http://astroday.net > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stovepiping
Someone emailed me about my use of the word "stovepipe". What is it, etc... Well, I may or may not have seen it in official meteoriticist vocabulary but I do think it is a useful word in meteorites. In general, Stovepiping refers any feature that sticks up like a flue pipe from a franklin stove. In the case of a meteorite, I use stovepiping to describe the feature on the leeside of a oriented meteorite. I posit that the melted rock may have congealed and cooled on the back side in a stovepipe fashion. I hope that clears up the term and officially adds it to our vocabulary. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who's seen Stovepiping on oriented stones?
This is a heat shield on the bottom, and this stovepipe occurred on the back. My question is this just a odd rock feature or is the stovepiping caused by orientation? http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor/BuzzardCouleeMeteoriteExpeditionApril2009#5368898892667906386 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2nd Batch - Expedition photos Buzzard Coulee Spring Trip
After I received word that the snow was melting I immediately flew up to Canada to continue the recovery effort. I pushed hard each day to get the most out of each day. I averaged 25-30 finds per day. However, I pushed myself too hard and within 4 days I developed a cough and fever. I laid low for a few days and my fever rose and eventually I had to go to the hospital for help. After some antibiotics to fight some kind of strep, 3 days later I was drugged enough to continue my efforts after losing a week. Still had the cough, though. http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor/BuzzardCouleeMeteoriteExpeditionApril2009?feat=directlink At some point during the trip, I realized that the time I took to take a photo added up and it would cost me one stone by the end of each day. So I stopped taking photos of in situ finds. By the end of the trip, I'd found over 200 stones with the smallest being 3g and the largest about 187. I broke the 4 kg mark, and walked away with 2 kg after paying the landowner his half. These will be for sale in a few months once the export permit comes. Several are oriented. Contact me. After my return, my cough got worse and I have been treated for it for 4 months. Some expeditions have a higher price to pay than others. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee Expedition Photos from December
This is the first trip taken to Canada after the fall. Once there, we only had 2.25 days to hunt before shutdown snowfall occurred. It was -25 Celcius and the airline lost my luggage, so I'm wearing socks over my hands in some photos. I think I had thin gloves under the socks. At some point, I couldn't photo anymore as the batteries died of cold and our fingers hurt from exposure. Give me desert any day of the week. Most of the photos are in situ. No action, car chases, or things blowing up. Sorry. http://picasaweb.google.com/mccartneytaylor/BuzzardCouleeMeteoriteExpeditionDecember2008?feat=directlink I recommend you use the slideshow option and the full screen. I think we found 6 kg in two days. They stuck out nice in the white thin snow. Then we gave 1/2 to the landowner, and we sold off our half. I kept 100g of small stones for my own collection, awaiting export permit. I'll upload my Spring trip photos soon. I have many kilos coming to me when the permits clear, also. -mt www.outofabluesky.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Russ Finney
Russ, Please contact me off list. Better yet, call. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video of Ash Creek meteorites being found in West, TX
I've put together my short 'find videos' that I make every time I find a stone (and I have a camera handy). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQznLtB9Lg And for those who remember I had another video of a meteorite found near West, it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZbgCSSaAEw I wasn't sure if it was a Ash Creek at first, but now that it is cut there is no doubt. The slices are at http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 And for something completely different - the biggest god-damned feral hive I've ever seen in Texas. Even I, a veteran beekeeper was intimadated to cut out this bastard. But it gave me 40 kg of honey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbbYnfnPiX0 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper. TAKE 2
http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/allende12-7.jpg This is an Allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see. I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused. Any ideas on alternate interpretations? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Example of Lipping and direction stumper.
This is an allende. I'm not sure I understand the orientation signs I see. I see a star flow line pattern which indicates this side is windward. But the lipping on the NW side hints the side is leeward. So I'm a bit confused. Any ideas on alternate interpretations? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ash Creek Slices Available
The new 225g Ash Creek has been cut and several slices made http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 >From 13g to a 38g endcut. There are also several micros for sale. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Bob Evans Meteorite Lawsuit Settled
Bob Evans paid the judgment against him in April. He paid his judgment in full, including the interest, and filing fees. He chose to pay a week before he was scheduled to appear in court before an Illinois judge and disclose his employer, income, assets, and details of his meteorite collection. I have no further dispute with him. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video of New Ash Creek Find
I got a call from a West local who found 'dozens' of meteorites. I doubted it and asked for pictures. As expected, all were junk terrestrials...all but one. I then met him, he's an older gentleman and had stories of some of the rocks he found years ago and some he found after the fall. He swears up and down the one meteorite he found was in 1957. But I looked at it, then cut it open. Looks just like a Ash Creek inside and out. So I suspect he got confused as to when he found which stone. Does anyone see anything that makes you think this is not an Ash Creek? 225 grams. Here's the video (make sure you choose "HD" for hi res) of the stone before and after cutting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZbgCSSaAEw Oh, and anyone who wants a slice, let me know. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
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Re: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton
>From us here in Austin, too. > > Our condolences to the family Norton. > > Philippe & Lea > Meteoritica > > _ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - Paying the Piper at West
At the hunt in West, I searched the property across from Adair's place. Lori's place. The owners were getting irritated with hunters after a while, so I tried to sooth nerves and volunteered my services to help a bit of trouble on the property. On top of being an engineer, cartographer, and magician; I'm also a beekeeper. They had a feral hive in the abandoned camper near the ranch equipment and wanted it gone. Greg Hupe noticed this hive and told a few people. Anyway, I was back at West yet again last week, as the Last Man Standing out there. The hunt was fruitful, while no Ash Creek was found, a new 225g stone came to light from another fall, but more on that later. Anyway, to pay the piper for our permission to hunt, I cut out the hive and transplanted it into one of my hive boxes. For those who care to see me get stung a few times, here's the first video of 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbs0go2KAs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Excessively Large Reward a bad precedent.
A $5,000/kg or $10,000/kg reward for the first kg may be appropriate for most some falls. But quickly the newspapers will drop the 'first kg' part and spread the value at $10/g. There will also be unit errs and report the value at $10,000/lb. $20,000/kg is ludicrous. I think we, as a community, should make some kind of gentleman's agreement with the highest reward that should be offered. Quickly, a point will be reached that will be counter-productive. http://www.wjbf.com/jbf/news/state_regional/georgia/article/meteorite_hunters_closing_in_on_georgia_fireball_reward_upped_to_2/12165/ -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - West meteorite
I'm releasing 2 more West stones for sale. 14.5g and 28.7g Both 100% fusion crusted, 1 with a silver line. http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Silver stuff on the West?
I have found another specimen with a pronounced silver 'line' http://outofabluesky.com/images/stories/stoneymeteorites/west15-1.jpg I really don't know what to make of it. In this new piece, its like its a silver blob that melted and oozed out of the tiny gash in the stone. I'm disinclined now to a post fall chemical reaction. Do take note of the oxidation effect the rain had on the stone. There is another specimen with silver 'blotches' on this page, the 29.5g piece. http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 Any good theories out there? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hats off to Thomas Grau! Good recovery.
Well done Thomas Grau! Most of us thought that fall was a lost cause into the ocean. Two thumbs up from Texas. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West- Blue-Silvery Markings- Thanks and Thoughts
My picture of the silver is of fairly good quality. Its the bottom photo. http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 You can see that the silverish area is fairly erratic, not clustered together in a single patch. I'm more inclined to believe a chemical reaction on the ground. Has anyone found a stone with silverish on BOTH sides? I do want to note that the stone was found silver side down. -mt Original Message > From: Robert Woolard > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:05 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] West- Blue-Silvery Markings- Thanks and Thoughts > > Hello List, and Rubin, > > Third, there seems to be a wide range of theories at this point. It > obviously MUST be emphasized that my photo has been the only source for most > to base their opinions on, and a not-so-great photo at that, as it is too > "washed out" ( the stone is much darker, much more black in real life, with > the markings more pronounced and "shiny".) > > I have the permission from the respected meteorite researcher who performed > the initial classification for this meteorite fall, Alan Rubin, to pass along > a VERY PRELIMINARY supposition to the nature of these markings that he > emailed to me. As stated above, he wants to emphasize that he too has only > seen the photo, not the actual stone with the streaks in person. Here is what > his initial thoughts are: > > "When one looks at a fusion crust of an ordinary chondrite in the > microscope, one notices that there are numerous tiny magnetite grains there, > formed by oxidation during atmospheric passage. It looks to me as if these > silvery streaks are just places where the fusion crust has flaked off > revealing the magnetite-rich layer underneath." > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Doppler radar signature from bolides
Note that the stoney has a Specific gravity of 3.0 vs water's 1.0. Indeed, it should have an excellent reflection from radar. -mt Original Message > From: "E.P. Grondine" > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:58 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Doppler radar signature from bolides > > Hi - > > I wonder why such a small amount of material produced such a large doppler > signature. Anyone have any guesses? > > E.P. Grondine > Man and Impact in the Americas > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- More West available.
First, I now have a new website "Out of a Blue Sky" outofabluesky.com where I'll put up material from my expeditions. Second, I am letting go of 2 more West specimens. 16 and 30g. I earned these after suffering poison oak, and pulling off ticks every day. http://www.outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - West meteorite - 17 grams
The meteorite I found on Saturday is now for sale on my website. This is the same stone from the 10 minute video compilation I put on Youtube. Pics of the stone are here: http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_jportfolio&cat=4&project=46&Itemid=58 -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] West, Texas Meteorite Video Compilation
This is a 10 minute video documentary of 48 hours in the West Strewnfield over the weekend. It is a simple and short videography. If you are expecting a refined production, it is not this. First 2 minutes brings you up to speed on the field conditions as of Friday. After that, there will be witness accounts and stones found. I think there is a cameo of the famous dog pissing off a calf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yyAwhfJbQs WARNING - High winds caused sound degradation. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video of West Meteorite Hunting Beer Break
I've returned from West, yesterday. I've got some fun video of the hunt. Here is a fun short with Mike, Greg, Ward and I during a "beer 30" break. Cameo by Jim Baxter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGfSRlz0_c I'm compiling a 10 minute video that sums up the last 3 days. It will be up on youtube by tonight. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video about Texas Fireball with McCartney
I made sure these guys got the facts straight. http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/?ArID=232225 There is a button midway down on the right "Watch the Video" that lets you click to see the short 2 minute news clip. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sonic boom - Size of object
How large a object would be needed for someone on the ground to hear a sonic boom? In other words, could satellite debris create sonic booms? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Book Out
Finally! The complete account of the Santa Lucia, Argentina meteorite is now out. This is the meteorite fall that occurred last year in January, 2008. This book covers the fall, the field work, the mapping of the strewnfield, addresses the new export law, and tries to do all of that woven around an entertaining story. Meteorite Magazine will have a review in an issue or two. After working on it for months, the monograph is finished. Its received an ISBN and a copy is submitted to the Library of Congress. Total 68 pages, 9x6, full of great color photos. Google has scanned a few teaser pages and will have them online in 6 weeks, I believe. For those interested, this will be the first of a series of monographs. Each monograph will cover an individual meteorite falls I've launched expeditions too. Again, for non-native English speakers, a monograph is simply a book which is very focused in scope. In this case, a single meteorite. This book is catered more toward institutions and hard core collectors, it is not a simple introductory text. I took great pain to NOT have a single equation in it; it hurt me to do that. Available at Lulu Publishing, the link is here: http://www.lulu.com/content/5344624 They've priced it at $35. Softback, full color, 68pp. Because this is Tucson weekend, I'll repost this again in a week. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tenth Annual Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash & Harvey Awards
If you are new to the Tucson show, or have been but not the B-Bash, you need to go. The Birthday Bash is by far the most important event at the show and should be attended by all means, methods, or contrived cover stories. Its a good time, and the biggest meteorite social event in the world. As a bonus, its a birthday bash where its forbidden to bring a present. :0) -mt Original Message > From: Notkin > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:19 PM > To: Meteorite List > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tenth Annual Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash & Harvey > Awards > > Dear Friends, Colleagues and Listees: > > > You are invited to: > > THE TENTH ANNUAL METEOR MAYHEM BIRTHDAY BASH & HARVEY AWARDS > > Your hosts: Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold > > *** Two weeks from tonight *** > FRIDAY FEBRUARY 6, 2009 > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LDG in King Tut exhibit
I just returned from Dallas, after attending the King Tut exhibit. Libyan Desert Glass is acknowledged as the source for one of King Tut's jewels in a piece of jewelry. They show a short 2 minute video on what forms the LDG. Just an FYI. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Galvanic Cleaning of Rusters
I wish to throw in my research on galvanic cleaning to the list. I used the sites listed and also had the advantage of consulting a chemist. The targets were deport iron, specifically the ones found deep. For odd reasons, deports found shallow were stable, while deepers where not. The solution that worked best was the distilled water, 99% alcohol, and lye (sodium hydroxide?). Leave the irons to soak in that solution will only have a slight electrolytic effect. To really pull out chlorides, its best to wrap the irons in aluminum. The aluminum is converted fairly fast, so don't use foil. Better is to use old aluminum cans replacing when needed, they last longer. After 2 months, remove iron, wash in distilled, wash in 99% alcohol, then cook for several hours. From then on, no problems. -mt > Greetings, all, > > I wanted to share (re-post?) a tip for galvanic cleaning of rusty irons. > Common and safe materials, quick, easy, and very effective! > > The instructions are here: > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/Galvanic.pdf > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/Galvanic.pdf > > I stumbled on it some time ago at our own Eric Twelker's informative site: > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/ > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/ > > ... but hadn't tried it until recently. > > > I have a 5 kg Campo, some smaller Campos, and a couple of Sikhote-Alins that > were rusting, flaking, or showing small relentless beads of moisture in spots > no matter what I tried to stop it. > > If there is an easy way to come to an end I'll take it, so I was determined > to give this galvanic method a shot and I am delighted with the results! > > The largest Campo was covered in a red oxidized powder and orange spots all > over, especially in the regmaglypts, > - One Campo was flaking so badly that I could hear pieces falling off > whenever I walked into the same room, > - Smaller Campos with a few weeping and rusting spots, > - two Sikhote-Alin shrapnel that had almost no rust but a dark material > build-up where there were weeping spots, which I suspect was some type of > oil. > > I also had a small broken-off piece of a badly rusted Branhin rusted so badly > there was nothing to lose by trying. > > I used Arm and Hammer washing soda, cheap at Walmart, and distilled water. > I also used heavy-duty aluminum foil to wrap the specimens, along with some > additional chunks of high-quality aluminum thrown in, salvaged from old > computer parts. Can any chemists advise if the extra would make a difference? > > When I cleaned the smaller ones I did all pieces at the same time. > > I used a "microwave safe" plastic tub (which I got at a dollar store) capable > of handling the boiling water, and for after the galvanizing I used a variety > of synthetic bristle brushes I got there, too, including a very useful > denture toothbrush (superior to a regular toothbrush) for tight spots > https://jawproducts.authsecure.com/images/denturebrushlarge_all.jpg > > > A word of warning - don't use a brush you want to use for anything other than > this - the bristles turn black, and I haven't discovered a way to clean them, > yet. > > > I am pleased to report that the results were absolutely brilliant! Beyond my > expectations! > > I didn't even have to follow up with a steel bristle brush. > All the Campos and S/A look nice and clean, with the black fusion crust > looking fresh. > > There have been chats here about appreciation of patina, but for me active > rust is something different. > > It's been just over a month, now, and I don't see any re-occurring signs of > moisture droplets or rusting. > Even the flaking seems to have ceased! > > The Branhin doesn't rust anymore, either, but as cautioned in the article I > don't think it is a good idea to galvanize any pallasite. > > > Acknowledgements and appreciation to Erik, and the authoring Ray Pickard of > the Bathurst Observatory in Australia. > > > Cheers, > Pete > > > > _ > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lone Rock / Buzzard Coulee Sold Out
All of our material has been sold. None made it to the US. To those who wanted to wait...bad luck. -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Book
Yes, I can confirm the rumors that I have a meteorite book coming out soon. Its actually a monograph which is different than a book. For those non native English speakers, a monograph is a book extremely focused on a subject matter. In this case, its focused on just the Santa Lucia Meteorite Fall that occurred in January, 2008. I was fortunate to be the only field researcher there after the fall. The monograph contains my field notes, color pictures, stories, research, new Argentine law issues, and other items related to just this fall. 65 pages. This will be the first in a series of monographs covering meteorite falls and fines I've researched. That will include Tanzania, Deport, the new Canadian, etc... I'll roll these out when I damn well feel like it. :0) I'll give the list a heads up when it comes available. -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Non Canadians must wait!
Sonny and I are still getting many emails asking for Lone Rock material from non Canadians. We did follow the laws on this one, we turned it all over to our Canadian handler. Paperwork is being submitted very soon. Please wait 3-6 months. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pictures from the Lone Rock Strewnfield
I was diligent in getting photos of stones in situ. The trick is to snap the picture before the cold snaps the battery dead. -20C does nasty things to battery chemistry. Note fusion crust looks 'wrong' with a light coating of ice that might be half sublimated. Also note, that only after 9 days on the ground, oxidation is already visible on some specimens. Spring stones should be noticeably different than winter stones. Lets hope this works... http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72157610818541399/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canadian Material for Americans has to wait
For the Americans and other non-Canadians emailing me, you all need to wait. We've got a Canadian colleague applying for customs paperwork next week. This will hold our material in Canada for several months as the Canadian Institutions will have an option to buy our material. Worst case should be 6 months. IMCA 2760 -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Claimed find on Crown Land in Canada
Its total BS. The nearest crown land is sideways 10km. Not along the axis, simply the nearest crown land where someone who stole a rock off Ian Mitchell ranch could claim it and keep it. Mike you didn't believe the Cali, Columbia finds that were hundreds of km away in FARC territory either?... Most claim it hit a roadway. Its going to be a chronic claim from here on. The 13kg mass was originally claimed to be a roadway find, until Dr. Hilebrand browbeat the finder to give it back to Alister Mitchell who's land it was stolen from. That confrontation occurred at our hotel a few days before we got there. Just to clarify. -mt Original Message > From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:45 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] McCartney's News from the Canadian Fall > > Man, I wish I was there, but with just returning from a 23 day expedition to > the other side of the planet and going to Japan Monday, I had no chance to > make it. > You say pieces are claimed 10 km away, that should be no problem, that is 6 > miles, a normal strewnfield is that large, and of course, could be triple > that for a truly huge fall, which this has the earmarks of. I envy you guys > today though, not the cold part, but the finding of new fall stones, that > gets my heart racing! > Mike > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/5/08, McCartney Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: McCartney Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] McCartney's News from the Canadian Fall > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 10:02 PM > > The hunting is over, 5-10 cm of snow is predicted tonight. > > More fell last night. Searching is all but impossible at > > this point. The weather has been abnormally snow free up > > till this week. > > > > We have had the luck of securing 5% of the strewnfield. We > > also had the luck of a really great landowner at that. > > We've had to forfeit a sizable portion of our finds to > > this land owner, who fully deserves it for his co-operation > > with us. In fact, he deputized us to police his property > > and kick off the plethora of trespassers that was rampant > > after the news aired locally. > > > > The stone looks like an H6, but I'm not qualified to > > make a call on that. I do know that we're seeing alot > > of secondary crust, so perhaps this thing blew high? Sonny > > spotted some veining in some of his stones. I've > > managed to mainly find fully crusted individuals. > > > > I want everyone to know, my luggage was lost coming into > > Canada. So I searched in -22 Celsius with the clothes on my > > back that I wore on the plane. If you think you are a > > meteorite hunter, you will know when you crawl on your hands > > and knees looking for pee sized meteorites in -22C. > > You'll either cut it, or go home. Me...I'm still > > here. > > > > The fall looks big. But after today, the material coming > > out is going to stop. Most of the material we saw recovered > > was stolen. It will be claimed 'roadway'. I even > > heard of some falling on crown lands 10 km away! > > > > Interviews done indicate 15 'pops' when the > > fireball blew. It was a hell of a show, I hear. One person > > recalled his tin roof sounding like it was hit by hail > > stones. > > > > My best guess on TKW is about 35kg of which 30kg is in the > > hands of the Mitchell family/Dr Hildebrand. The Mitchell > > have expressed no interest in selling. The few locals who > > have offered material for sell are asking so much I > > can't touch it. Its that bad. > > > > Today we were interviewed by Canadian Broadcasting. Sonny > > did well in expressing space enthusiasm, while I did a short > > stint on the science and ballistics of the fall. Then we > > took the camera guy hunting. To my stunned eyes, we > > stumbled on a meteorite while walking 20m forward to find a > > shoot spot. That was caught on film. (68grams) Then within > > 20m we found a tiny 2nd one. Frilling amazing. They made a > > wrap because they were freezing and left. What totally > > killed me, was when I went back to hunting, I noticed the > > camera guy had STEPPED on another meteorite, about 25g. > > LOL! Funny funny. > > > > best > > -mt > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] McCartney's News from the Canadian Fall
The hunting is over, 5-10 cm of snow is predicted tonight. More fell last night. Searching is all but impossible at this point. The weather has been abnormally snow free up till this week. We have had the luck of securing 5% of the strewnfield. We also had the luck of a really great landowner at that. We've had to forfeit a sizable portion of our finds to this land owner, who fully deserves it for his co-operation with us. In fact, he deputized us to police his property and kick off the plethora of trespassers that was rampant after the news aired locally. The stone looks like an H6, but I'm not qualified to make a call on that. I do know that we're seeing alot of secondary crust, so perhaps this thing blew high? Sonny spotted some veining in some of his stones. I've managed to mainly find fully crusted individuals. I want everyone to know, my luggage was lost coming into Canada. So I searched in -22 Celsius with the clothes on my back that I wore on the plane. If you think you are a meteorite hunter, you will know when you crawl on your hands and knees looking for pee sized meteorites in -22C. You'll either cut it, or go home. Me...I'm still here. The fall looks big. But after today, the material coming out is going to stop. Most of the material we saw recovered was stolen. It will be claimed 'roadway'. I even heard of some falling on crown lands 10 km away! Interviews done indicate 15 'pops' when the fireball blew. It was a hell of a show, I hear. One person recalled his tin roof sounding like it was hit by hail stones. My best guess on TKW is about 35kg of which 30kg is in the hands of the Mitchell family/Dr Hildebrand. The Mitchell have expressed no interest in selling. The few locals who have offered material for sell are asking so much I can't touch it. Its that bad. Today we were interviewed by Canadian Broadcasting. Sonny did well in expressing space enthusiasm, while I did a short stint on the science and ballistics of the fall. Then we took the camera guy hunting. To my stunned eyes, we stumbled on a meteorite while walking 20m forward to find a shoot spot. That was caught on film. (68grams) Then within 20m we found a tiny 2nd one. Frilling amazing. They made a wrap because they were freezing and left. What totally killed me, was when I went back to hunting, I noticed the camera guy had STEPPED on another meteorite, about 25g. LOL! Funny funny. best -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Is it like a heavy chunk of rust that looks like it was hit by bullets?"
I was asked that this morning by a hunter while I was researching an iron. He went on to say - "I found one like that when I was a kid. It was heavy as hell, i found it on the gully bank where it washed out. I left it there, just thought it was iron junk with little dents" Last year when I interviewed his father, his father had found "half a cannon ball" when he was plowing years ago. He pitched it along the barb wire fence line...ugg. God I hate barb wire. Something tells me I'm in the right place... __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need Help Destroying Earth - Who can suggest a good physics simulator?
OK, maybe not destroy earth. Just hurl things at it. I need a computer model throwing a rock at the atmosphere at 20,000 mph and have an airflow simulator model its breakup and fall pattern. Then do it over and over again 100,000 times to do a monte carlo analysis. The rock structure needs to be changeable, like highly veined incompetent rock, or competent Ni-Iron. Angle and speed needs to be a variable also. Model needs to accommodate friction and slag off. Although, we could cheat on this one and alter the rock structure to compensate. Main goal, is to plot the landing zone of a flying gravel pit incoming at 20,000 mph Any ideas where to start? There's probably a linux package that does something like this. However, the google searches I've done and SAL searches don't look promising. SAL link http://sal.jyu.fi/index.shtml shows science aps for Linux -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Using GIS for Meteorite Hunting and Study
I, too, am a GIS person. Since Land ownership & GIS has just been brought up, I have to take this one step farther and mention good & free GIS packages. Someone just brought up ESRI as a GIS progam, and I would like to discourage people from using it. ESRI gives you piecemeal crippled software that you'll have to pay licenses for each piece you enable. While there base 'hook' product is free, you can quickly spend $2500 getting the 'Basic GIS' which is just decent GIS (ArcGIS $1500 and ArcView $950). Then the extensions can cost $12,500 to bring you up to a complete GIS system that gives you map webpublishing and db interoperability. All of that is about the same as what GRASS does, but its free. There are some excellent Open Source GIS programs currently available. You can download these for free and have them running within the hour. Quantum can quickly import your GPS data. Both of these run under Windows or Linux. Quantum GIS -- Young, small, and runs fast on old machines. Think of this as a 'dune buggy' of GIS. Use this one first, if you're new to GIS. http://qgis.org/ GRASS GIS -- Mature, stable, powerful, but very complex. Good for 3D and 4D plotting. Like if you wanted to plot a strewnfield thru a mountainous area then do a time lapse flyby. Think of this as a diesel MAC truck of GIS. http://grass.itc.it/ There are a couple of other Open Source GIS packages, but they are immature and not ready yet, IMHO. On getting the basemap to use as your main layer, here's a starting point. http://www.gismonitor.com/data/index.php http://seamless.usgs.gov/ Steps to take once you have your program and basemaps. 1. Load basemap into GIS 2. Load GPS finds into GIS. 3. Make sure you have all data layers on the same projection (like NAD83) 4. Draw polygons of area searched! Important to know where you've been. 5. Draw polygons of area you are ALLOWED to search. Important to know where you can't go. 6. Plot points of where meteorites where found. High Confidence Data gets a special symbol. 7. Plot point of historically found meteorites that you have low confidence of where you think they were found. You could even draw small circle polygons to represent the 'fuzzy' find location. 8. Draw Line of best guess of upper limit of Main fall axis. 9. Draw line of best guess of lower limit of Main fall axis. The space in between is your best greatest statistical chance of finding more. -mt IMCA 2760 copyright 2008 - I reserve all rights to put some of this in my upcoming book. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Landowner Lookup Question
You'll have a problem. The CAD (county appraisal district) will only have the property info and the mailing addy of the person in question. Often that mailing addy is a PO box, so no crisscross phone # for you. You'll have to send a letter. Courthouse records including a plat map or the local title company may have a title plant which will also help you find the owner, but by far the CAD is the easiest and free way to go, as it is often online. My normal method, is I have to go to location anyway for recon so I simply stop at nearby ranches/farms and show up on doorsteps with a map in my hand. The map is important, as it disarms any distrust from folks, as everyone want to help the lost guy. Then I simply say "I don't THINK I'm lost, but..." and go on to ask about local history, info, who knows the area, and who owns that farm over yonder. -mt Original Message > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Bandli) > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:34 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Landowner Lookup Question > > I am hoping that some of you experienced meteorite hunters can answer a > question: What is the simplest/easiest way to lookup private landowner > information? More specifically, if I want to find information that will allow > me to contact a private landowner of a very remote area here in the Pacific > Northwest. > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike Bandli > www.Astro-Artifacts.com > IMCA #5756 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MCcartney Taylor
Your day to prove the case has long gone. The court has all my documentation and I stand by it. I gave you many opportunities to solve this issue before I went to the met list with the problem. You didn't even respond to emails or ebay messages. Foolishly, you didn't even respond to the lawsuit. You brought it all upon yourself by your own actions. You have, with your email, help establish your character. Thank you. -mt IMCA 2760 Original Message > From: "Bob Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:08 PM > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] MCcartney Taylor > > Listen MCcartney, > You little know it all prick. Did you do any lying in court ? > Based on the paper work you did indeed. > > This cant be discussed here any further and you know it. > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Bob Evans Lawsuit
Yes, there was a lawsuit against Bob Evans brought by me. It was in regards to a trade that was partially done, where I sent material and only received a partial trade, then Evans went quiet. No contact for many months. Eventually, I posted about it and received many replies that he has done this before. His modus operandi is usually to go quiet and not communicate. Which is what he's doing now. He did not show in court, I received a default judgment by the judge. Evans did not appeal and a judgment was issued. I spent the money to have the judgment filed in Illinois and a lien filed against his house. At this time he can not purchase or sell, or inherit real property until the judgment is paid. It is collecting 8% interest at this time. If I recall my contract law correctly, selling NWA junk as Zulu Queen would be 'Misrepresentation' as well as Unjust Enrichment. Selling Zulu Queen that he didn't know was NWA junk is simply 'Mutual Misunderstanding'. Good luck in proving he had prior knowledge it was NWA junk. This is a small sandbox we play in. Play nice. -mt Original Message > From: AL Mitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:36 PM > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? > > Greetings List Members, > > On June 24th 2004 there were some claims made against the person in > question. Apparently there was a lawsuit against this seller. I have > stayed clear of him ever since, though I never dealt with him. I suggest > people look up the archives and do their own reading and decide for > themselves. It may be the issue was resolved but I guess my feeling is > how it got to that point in the first place. Best! > > --AL Mitterling > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW Argentina Meteorite Law
Yes, Eduardo is correct. There is a new law in Argentina that makes all new FALLS and FINDS national property. Technically, it makes them 'cultural heritage artifacts'. This means they will fall under UNESCO laws and they can issue Interpol arrest warrants that are recognized by most countries. Argentina has a track record of aggressively hunting down fossil dealers who illegally export fossils which also are 'cultural heritage artifacts'. They have issued int'l warrants and nabbed fossil dealers. This is one country you don't want to cross. Do not confuse their ability to enforce a NATIONAL law with the ineffective Chaco provincial law that was supposed to stop Campos from leaving the province. I went to Santa Lucia last month to recover the January 24, 2008 fall. I had great success in recovering both material (2.23kg) and data (GPS and 1.25 hours of video) on the fall. What I didn't know was that in December 2007 a new law was passed. I've been in contact with the government to find a good solution the situation. They knew the law was new and that I likely didn't know about it. So far, the government has been quite resonable, and they care about meteorites and their conservation. I will likely return some of my material, for the greater good of the meteorite community with Argentina. As a member of IMCA, I believe I need to follow a very ethical path to benefit all who come after me. If the meteorite community behaves properly as new law is interpreted, we can influence the law to go the way of Canada or Australia and not down the path of the Dark Side like India. I have strongly suggested to them that they offer rewards on new falls, not just seize them like India. If we do this right, we may be allowed in on new falls working with the National Museum. If we do this wrong, meteorite collectors will become a plague to them and they will hunt us and arrest us in the future. Please, just let this fall go, and let Eduardo and I establish the ground rules with the Argentine government. -mt IMCA 2760 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who has Niningers Notes
I need a reminder, is it the Smithsonian? Contact on list, once someone has no need for others to email. Thanks! =-mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bad Science on ancient meteorite impactor?
I don't agree with most of these conclusions. I motion to have this work peer reviewed by meteoriticists. Do I hear a second? -mt http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-03/uob-cct033108.php Cuneiform clay tablet translated for the first time A cuneiform clay tablet that has puzzled scholars for over 150 years has been translated for the first time. The tablet is now known to be a contemporary Sumerian observation of an asteroid impact at Köfels, Austria and is published in a new book, 'A Sumerian Observation of the Köfels' Impact Event.' The giant landslide centred at Köfels in Austria is 500m thick and five kilometres in diameter and has long been a mystery since geologists first looked at it in the 19th century. The conclusion drawn by research in the middle 20th century was that it must be due to a very large meteor impact because of the evidence of crushing pressures and explosions. But this view lost favour as a much better understanding of impact sites developed in the late 20th century. In the case of Köfels there is no crater, so to modern eyes it does not look as an impact site should look. However, the evidence that puzzled the earlier researchers remains unexplained by the view that it is just another landslide. This new research by Alan Bond, Managing Director of Reaction Engines Ltd and Mark Hempsell, Senior Lecturer in Astronautics at Bristol University, brings the impact theory back into play. It centres on another 19th century mystery, a Cuneiform tablet in the British Museum collection No K8538 (known as "the Planisphere"). It was found by Henry Layard in the remains of the library in the Royal Place at Nineveh, and was made by an Assyrian scribe around 700 BC. It is an astronomical work as it has drawings of constellations on it and the text has known constellation names. It has attracted a lot of attention but in over a hundred years nobody has come up with a convincing explanation as to what it is. With modern computer programmes that can simulate trajectories and reconstruct the night sky thousands of years ago the researchers have established what the Planisphere tablet refers to. It is a copy of the night notebook of a Sumerian astronomer as he records the events in the sky before dawn on the 29 June 3123 BC (Julian calendar). Half the tablet records planet positions and cloud cover, the same as any other night, but the other half of the tablet records an object large enough for its shape to be noted even though it is still in space. The astronomers made an accurate note of its trajectory relative to the stars, which to an error better than one degree is consistent with an impact at Köfels. The observation suggests the asteroid is over a kilometre in diameter and the original orbit about the Sun was an Aten type, a class of asteroid that orbit close to the earth, that is resonant with the Earth's orbit. This trajectory explains why there is no crater at Köfels. The in coming angle was very low (six degrees) and means the asteroid clipped a mountain called Gamskogel above the town of Längenfeld, 11 kilometres from Köfels, and this caused the asteroid to explode before it reached its final impact point. As it travelled down the valley it became a fireball, around five kilometres in diameter (the size of the landslide). When it hit Köfels it created enormous pressures that pulverised the rock and caused the landslide but because it was no longer a solid object it did not create a classic impact crater. Mark Hempsell, discussing the Köfels event, said: "Another conclusion can be made from the trajectory. The back plume from the explosion (the mushroom cloud) would be bent over the Mediterranean Sea re-entering the atmosphere over the Levant, Sinai, and Northern Egypt. "The ground heating though very short would be enough to ignite any flammable material - including human hair and clothes. It is probable more people died under the plume than in the Alps due to the impact blast." ### The full translation of the tablet together with the analysis supporting these conclusions can be found in the book, 'A Sumerian observation of the Kofels' impact event' published by Alcin Academics, ISBN 1904623646, priced at £12.99. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need Help with Expedition Video footage
I'm looking for a video editing volunteer. My 2 week expedition recovering the new fall was well documented, dozens and dozens of pictures and over 1.5 hours of video clips of interviews, relevant scenery, daily planning, and trips to impact points. My plan is too filter and condense all this footage into a new fall documentary of maybe 15-20 minutes. I wasn't out to produce a TV grade documentary, but one a simple one that covers the chronology of the day to day roller coaster of boots-on-the-ground rumor hunting. I'm a bit overloaded right now trying to catch up at work and don't really have time to learn new video software. Please contact me OFF LIST. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] World largest meteorite dealers
In terms of height, they are. -mt > And I thought Mike and Bill Jensen were the world's largest > meteorite > dealers? > > Steve > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another clue to the Mystery Fall Game
One picture can say so much... http://www.texasmeteoritelab.com/x/IMG_1275.JPG Riddle me this, and Riddle me that, Can't you all guess where the meteorites at? -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Last Call for Alcohol
Wow, I got a wonderful deluge of helpful info. Thanks to everyone, I won't be able to respond to all emails. I will definitely use alcohol. Fear not I'll be safe. Now then, I got off the plane this morning, and now I'm going to go crawl into bed from my French/Spanish/Chilean/Zimbabwean/Mexican/South African/Burma trip. Tomorrow, perhaps the guesses will be better. Everyone seems to think the all the wine in the world comes from 2 countries... -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] First call for alcohol.
I've been told to cut the new fall in 99% alcohol. I've had my secretary calling the local grocery stores and drugstores for this stuff, but its not carried. I've been told Safeway carries it, but they're not in Austin. A local medical places has it for $16 per pint (ouch) which is excessive. Can someone give me suggestions for what type of businesses would carry it? OFF LIST please. thanks! -mt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pic of Farmer with Police at the Peru Crater.
In a pic, this tells the story. Mike is there, police don't care. http://filer.livinginperu.com/news/img/farmer_meteor_s.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Polishing with vibratory lap
Has anyone had success with using a vib lap? Leaving a chondrite in water for 3 days to polish sounds exceedingly foolish. With an iron, complete insanity. Is there anyone out there who has found a liquid media that works without damaging the slice? -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - Insulting my president
I take offense at you calling my president a plain stupid idiot. He's clearly not that bright. -mt IMCA 2760 On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 06:28 -0700, drtanuki wrote: > That man was mentally insane > unlike George Bush who is just a plain stupid idiot > and a fascist pig. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Maria
Maria, I'm not sure if your getting emails from me. Please email me off list your paypal email to send the money from the crazy Steve Arnold Hair auction. -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Statistician needed.
I've finishing a very interesting study on meteorite recovery which is heavily statistics oriented. However, I may have flaws in my assumptions and data sets. I recall that my college stat professor drilled into us, that when you have a serious stat problem, go find a real statistician. So hence the request. While I could easily tap into my local world-class university math department, I believe it would be best to tap a statistician who already understands the nature of meteorites. Please contact me off list. -mt IMCA # 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater -
The hunt is on! I just talked to my friend down in South America, too. I got tickets to go. See you there Sonny! Sonny, Are you bringing the margarita mix for the field? We can pick up the alcohol cheap there! No nasty water for us! I've got the maps and the topos. This should be great! -mt > Hi Randall, > > Thanks for the information. Would it be ok if I stay at your friends > house? Will I need my own detector? > > Thanks, > Your little Amigo ( Sonny ) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Ataxite Iron - Dumont
This is the official info release of a new iron. I identified this on a West Texas Trip in February 2005. It took a year of negotiating with the rancher before I got my paws on it. Trip info at http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/west_texas.html The iron masses 42.27 kg. Named the DUMONT (provisional). It is an IVB ataxite. There are less than a dozen IVB irons known. According to Dr Wasson - 16.2% Ni "It belongs to the high-Ir, low-Au, low-Ni subset of group IVB. The other members of this subgroup are Iquique, Tlacotepec, Gallipoli[prov.] and Cape of Good Hope." I'll be in Tucson at Inn Suites room 230. I will have a few slices in Tucson, but not many, I was a putz and didn't get many done in time. -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tree trimmers
Don't forget Ivuna in Tanganyika. It was recovered from a tree by a german expat! 2 more peices were seen to hit the salt flat, the German drove a stake in the ground meaning to come back and look for them later. Regretably before he got returned to the site, WWII began and the British incarcerated him. -mt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad- Brenham Slices
As per my earlier post, I've stabilized a Brenham. I've had Marlin cut 6mm slices and 3.5mm slices with a little translucency. Most slices are between 300g and 450g $3.50 for the 6mm and $5.50 for the 3.5mm If anyone is wanting some slices, please contact me off list. thanks! -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
