Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034
Hi Carl,] Saharite is already in use in reference to fulgurites found in the Sahara Desert. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034 Jeff, Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse things people do with words just to come up with a cool acronym. Making the new Martian meteorite acronym even half way cool requires some drastic measures, like giving NWA 7034 Basaltic Breccia Black Beauty a new name based on locality: I propose saharaite. So we now have the meteorites from Mars or SCANS S: shergottite C: chassignite A: ALH 84001 N: nakhlite S: saharaite Enjoy! Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ --- Message: 19 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:43:04 -0500 From: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 5102a808.5040...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite. SNCPB? If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS? Or maybe we should just do the sensible thing and call them Martian meteorites? Jeff On 1/24/2013 4:42 PM, h...@meteorhall.com wrote: Hi Paul, I like the SNCB. It sounds like a radio station's call letters...Stay tuned for all of your Martian meteorite news from SNCB. Regards, Fred H. How shall we organize the new class of Martian? Until now it has been SNC How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ? SNCB What say you all? -Paul Gessler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Watch out Ebay Sellers! Total scammer scammingmeteorite!
I'm suprised more riffy people haven't figured out they can do this and get away with it. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne DelRay leighannedel...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Watch out Ebay Sellers! Total scammer scammingmeteorite! So, I just wanted to tell my fellow ebay meteorite sellers about this total scammer on Ebay that is buying meteorites. This guy bought a really nice bullet-shaped Taza from me and stated that he didn't like it but he didn't want to go to the trouble of returning it, he just wanted his money back, and I told him that if he wanted his money back he was going to have to return the piece. I don't offer partial refunds or anything. I just needed the piece returned. Here's whet he did I almost still can't believe he did this - he returned to me a bubble mailer, with an EMPTY gemjar - no meteorite. He kept the TAZA and GOT a REFUND! Eventually Ebay ended up giving me my money back, but he also kept his money and the TAZA! Ebay says that they will let him steal this time, and keep him on Ebay, and just watch to see if he does it again. So, I am just warning all of you guys out there about him b/c I am sure if you are prone to do something that evil, you don't do it in a vacuum, and you will surely do it again. Here is all the info I have on him at this time from my unfortunate sale with him: Buyer: Member id yosefr2007 Buyer's Email: roza...@gmail.com rozany yosef Moza Tahtit MOZA TAHTIT mikud 90822 Jerusalem ISRAEL 90822 Israel If you want to keep your money, then I would advise you not sell to this clown. Peace ya'll, Leigh Anne DelRay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CV metachondrite pairings
David, After returning from a months vacation I come home to find you not only once but two times making false statements on the list reguarding me. Ron Farrell is not and has never been my partner. My partner for the last ten years has been Ali Hmani of Morocco. Make sure you get your facts straight before you apply them to the list. I have sold meteorites to Ron Farrell and bought meteorites from him as well. Terry Boswell In my opinion you have no right to complain about the high pricing of this material, and you should be proud of yourself that the paired find NWA 2400 was also being offered at $3000/g by Terry Boswell and his partner in crime Ron Farrell. - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CV metachondrite pairings Adam Hupe wrote: First of all, thank you for finally contacting the scientists and reporting your findings. Wrong, Ted called me. The issue of 3133 and 1839 being paired or not actually didn't even come up in our conversation since there was so much else of interest to discuss. I didn't sleep all night thinking of the exciting things we discussed, but I guess I'm a bit obsessed with this subject. It was in a separate e-mail in which I answered his query about the wording error on his website, something you posted you had done some time ago. Obviously this wording was a leftover from an earlier time when a pairing was suspected. In a prior post I stated that I thought the probabilities would be vanishingly small (although not zero) to find two unpaired, CV metachondrites, with overlapping mineralogy and chemistry, at the same proximity and time. My response is: Nobody knows what proximity they were found and they were classified at different times. They came for two different sources, we do not purchase material from Aziz. Who says both are related to the CV parent body? COs plot slightly different. The proximity I was referring to was the Moroccan/Algerian desert, and the time is the same short period that you have been involved in meteorites. I have seen the plot on the CV mixing line for both meteorites and they are darn close. In fact, certain select isotope runs virtually overlap. However, I would welcome the first CO metachondrite to my collection! Now I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge my gratitude and friendship to Aziz Habibi for gifting me almost a gram of NWA011/2400 (that's 1000 x what I have!), which will now become the official representative specimen of this probably extinct asteroid on my website. Many thanks Aziz! My response is: How could it be official when it has not been studied and no nomenclature has been given to this piece? This is the same kind of proclamation that causes problems and lengthy debates. The official part was obviously meant to refer to my website only, that is clear in my statement, and does not infer any pedigree from NomCom or anyone else. I have no idea where Aziz got this gift from; perhaps he acquired it from Ron Farrell in care of his partner Terry Boswell. Perhaps it is a piece of the original rock that he might have acquired from the Russians or Japanese. Perhaps a new pairing yet to be officially confirmed. I am not so rude as to question his generosity like you seem to want me to do. If you don't like which photos I use on my website to represent a particular meteorite, then may I invite you to avoid any confusion in your mind and not visit meteoritestudies.com in the future. Feeling a little vindicated after being called a liar, You are special Adam, don't let anyone affect your self esteem by calling you bad names. Just keep saying to yourself - sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. Till later, David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is Ted Bunch an idiot?
Tom Hello. I do believe Ted Bunch is correct. after he TED had just finished classifying this stone, ran a thin section through the probe and studied it under a microscope. compared to seeing a picture and trying to give his own analysis... I think we know who is the idiot on this call. Terry Boswell - Original Message - From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: met list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Is Ted Bunch an idiot? Hello List, I bought an unclassified meteorite on ebay, cut it, thought it was really nice, unlike anything I had seen, so I sent it in for classification. Later, I sent a picture to the list and someone commented that it looked like NWA 869. So when the classification was complete, to avoid any trouble, I asked Ted Bunch if there was any possibility of NWA 2906 being paired with 869, he said; I have over 50 reference slices of 869 - we are doing a research project on this stone. In addition, I helped T. Boswell sort out odd balls from 400 kg 869. I have seen a lot of 869 and it does have many variations. Your stone is not 869. I quoted Ted on my auction; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6554595054 But someone on the list says he can tell from the pictures that it is NWA 869 and that I am an idiot for trying to sell it as something other than 869. So I am trying to figure this out, should I think Ted Bunch is an idiot even after he had just finished classifying this stone, ran a thin section through the probe and studied it under a microscope.? Or should I assume the guy who thinks he can tell from the picture is an idiot? I do not want to be selling something that is not what I said it was. If it is 869 I will make it clear, but I have to know who to believe, the meteorite scientist who studied it, or the unknown guy that can tell more from a picture than the guy who studied it. . Thanks, Tom peregrineflier __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - BENGUERIR, SHIROKOVSKY and black crusted NWA
A bit from me This is a witnessed fall. T A Meteorites have the main mass. Mrs Chennaoui Aoudjehane was with our recovery team, they drove all night to get there. It has been documented, pictures taken... My father (Terry Boswell) is out of town on business or I would have more information on it. I have taken pictures and they will soon be on our webpage when it is completed. I read all the emails, just to keep up :) allyn - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Philippe Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - BENGUERIR, SHIROKOVSKY and black crusted NWA Farmer you are the same, you say my Kendrapara its Zag why you not have any piecethe same for the italian meteoritesis good you close your mouths, ruiner of market Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, this is nothing new with Matteo. HE does nothing but whine, complain, cry, and act like a little baby. If he does not have it, he trashes it. If he does not like you, he moniters everything you sell and harrasses you. He is now calling all the scientists in Morocco liars, ignoring the newspaper articles (dont forget, I was there only days after the fall), and acting like, well, Matteo. Ignore him, Benguerir is a real meteorite, a new fall, and saying it is Bensour because it looks similar is like Saying Toluca is Canyon Diablo because they look similar. Why isnt this guy off the mailing list? We would be so much happier without him. Mike Farmer M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto piĆ¹ divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica. Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list