Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Ebay lunar 6355 Apollo 16, killer Diogenite and Odessa smalls
I On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Hi all My NWA 6355 lunar has been flying off the shelves. It is grouped with the only lunar meteorites that are comparable to soils brought back by the Apollo 16 mission. Specifically, it is one of the only instances where lunar meteorites can be correlated with materials from a moon mission landing site (according to Dr. Irving). There are a few small pieces and one large complete 14g slice on Ebay. For discounted pricing, please contact me personally for sales. Also available are a couple killer small Odessa's from a 1960's collection. Easily the best smalls I have seen. NWA 6421 the Johnstown-like diogenite is a must-see. You can view my auctions here... http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT (Sorta...) Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves?
On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Michael Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting photo- wish I could crawl out of my chair in Ohio and go check those rocks out. I know this has been discussed on the list before. Have a good night. Mike http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/18/death-valleys-rocks-moving-racetrack-playa/ Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? By Philip Schewe Published February 18, 2011 | Inside Science News Service Death Valley National Park contains many mysteries, including one of nature's strangest phenomena: rocks that seem to move around all on their own. In the remote, almost totally dry lakebed called Racetrack Playa, some of the rocks move themselves across the desert floor when people aren't watching. Scientists know the rocks move because they leave narrow tracks trailing behind them, but they haven't actually seen it happen. And although one can't entirely rule out the possibility of some prank being played, at least some of the rocks appear to be moving under natural circumstances. It doesn't rain often in Racetrack Playa, and when it does the lakebed can flood. The rocks don't float exactly, but the main explanation for their movement is that moisture can make the mud on which the rocks sit more slick, making it easier for high winds to push the rocks along. Another explanation offered is that the temporary deposit of water, chilled to form extensive sheets of ice, might help to reflect and focus the winds, making it easier for the rocks to move. The winds required to move rocks in this way would seem to be at the level of 100 mph or more. That's why the rocks are sometimes referred to as sailing stones. They are rare but they have been noticed in Racetrack Playa and a few other arid places around the world subject to occasional floods Ralph Lorenz, a scientist at Johns Hopkins University, offers a new explanation. The rocks are actually lifted up by the ice, or at least made more buoyant by the ice, making it easier for the rocks to migrate. If the rocks are moving about on ice rafts, the ground below cannot offer as much resistance against their motion and the winds needed for movement wouldn't have to be as great, he argued. So why hasn't the motion been observed? Movement happens for only tens of seconds, at intervals spaced typically by several years, said Lorenz. This would demand exceptional patience as well as luck. So, the rocks are probably traveling on the coldest and windiest days that occur over a period of several years. The most likely time would be in the very early dawn. Little wonder no one is around to witness the event. Lorenz and his colleagues would like to install inexpensive time-lapse monitoring of the Playa area, using digital cameras. The lakebed is about 2.5 miles long and 1.25 miles wide. They have also performed some laboratory tests by blowing on ice-assisted rocks. These simple tests support the ice-raft hypothesis. The results appear in the January 2011 issue of the American Journal of Physics. An additional reason for studying the rocks of Racetrack Playa is that its qualities resemble those at a drying-up lake on Saturn's moon Titan. Pictures taken by the Cassini-Huygens mission reveal what look like river channels, cobblestones, and lake beds or mud flats. Only at Titan's Ontario Lacus, as one interesting site is called, the runoff consists of liquid hydrocarbons, not water. Some pictures even seem to be showing a bathtub ring left by what is probably a drying lake. One of Lorenz's colleagues, Brian K. Jackson, who works at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, also likes the idea that their research at Racetrack Playa has a dual purpose. It's been exciting trying to solve a mystery that has resisted solution for sixty years, Jackson said. Scientific accounts of the Racetrack Playa rocks go back to at least 1948, and there were certainly stories about the playa long before that. And Jackson also believes discoveries in Death Valley, here on Earth, will help us to better understand similar real estate on Titan or Mars. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson ANNONCEMTNET (ad)
Great looking New Deal part slice! LOL Todd On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: For those of you that haven't been to the site for a few days, there Are now some spectacular additions to the Tucson Meteorite Auction - And Darryl Pitt still has at least 2 more coming. Be sure to hit refresh or your computer is likely to show you The page that was there the first time you went there. We now have 75 entries including a sizable Sylacaga, a beautiful UNG Chondrite (type 3), a 7.26g WHOLE STONE of Johnstown, Over 1/4 kg Allende, and MANY more goodies that will make you Drool. See at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionTucson11.html This is the last week for absentee bidders to email me. So far There are NONE. You never know what bid might win. (absentee Bidders pay shipping and, if needed, packaging at the actual Rate of cost). Happy Hunting! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Video up of Episode 2 - Insights on Meteorites
Very nice, thanks for the video. I was wondering, because it wasn't answered in the video, how do I convince my wife I need a meteorite collection? Having a hard time with that one... LOL Todd On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:41 PM, McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com wrote: The latest episode of Insights on Meteorites is now released! The topic of this episode is meteorite dealers advice to new collectors. The link is only available thru Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/OutofaBlueSky Be sure to click the Like button while you are there! Video description --- Meteorite Collecting can be daunting. Here is the advice from several dealers for new meteorite collectors. Filmed at the Denver Meteorite Show in 2010. Includes Advice from Blaine Reed, Mike Jensen, Marlin Cilz, Viacheslav Spock Kalachev, Adam Aaronson, and John Humphries. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Or it could be just a fan of the show. Todd On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, All, For those who apparently don't know how to read the bidding statistics on a given page, the important thing to look at is the time at which a bid was placed -- not the order in which it appears on the list. The current top bid, held by 3***g( 93), was placed on December 31st, at ~10:30am PST. a***a( 419) tried to outbid 3***g( 93) twice the next day (Jan. 1), placing bids of $50 and $60. At this point, s***t( 0 ) placed no fewer than 14 bids, the last of which was for $180. This drove the price to $182.50, which...makes sense, since the bid increment up to $250 is $2.50. This looks like a typical example of someone bidding an item up. But since we all know Geoff and he does have good standing, it would be strange to accuse him of anything without evidence of some sort. It's probably just someone who doesn't understand how best to use ebay. Or it could even be a recurrence of our non-paying fellow from a week or so ago... Regards, Jason On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Don, Greg, OMG I can't believe what I am reading here. We are talking about Geoff Notkin. I am sorry but, I have to speak up here. Geoff is NOT shilling here. He would simply never be a part of anything like that. The reason it looks like the *0* feedback bidder bid so many times is because the bidder with 93 feedbacks bid around 15 times until he was high bidder. This has nothing to do with any shill or conspiracy. It is simply how eBay works. Again ,I say for the record. Geoff is way to cool to be involved in ANY thing illegal. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men in Canada
I'll get for you and send if you need me to Anything for a gaines county dude On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Is there any place that I can buy Season 1 and episodes of Season 2 online other than Amazon? Amazon Canada doesn't sell it and Amazon US won't sell it to a Canadian - They won't even allow me to view a preview, let along purchase the videos. So I thought I would be clever and sign up for a US VPN account (this makes it appear that I am in the US when I go on a website). I did that and was now able to watch the previews but then when I went to check out the purchase of Season 1, it wouldn't take my purchase because of my Canadian credit card. Is there any other place than Amazon.com that sells the season for download? Why would a US seller care about CRTC laws? I don't have Cable or Satellite TV so I am not even sure if Meteorite Men airs on the Canadian Discovery Channel. I have only ever watched 2 episodes and would love to watch the rest. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men in Canada
Oops, not sure DVDs are available. On Nov 21, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Sure! Thanks for the offer Todd. Are the DVDs available in stores in the US or do you have to buy online? What about episodes so I can get caught up? I want to buy Season 2 as soon as it's done but for now I would imagine I have to buy each episode. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Todd Smith [mailto:lubb...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:07 PM To: Guenther Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men in Canada I'll get for you and send if you need me to Anything for a gaines county dude On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Is there any place that I can buy Season 1 and episodes of Season 2 online other than Amazon? Amazon Canada doesn't sell it and Amazon US won't sell it to a Canadian - They won't even allow me to view a preview, let along purchase the videos. So I thought I would be clever and sign up for a US VPN account (this makes it appear that I am in the US when I go on a website). I did that and was now able to watch the previews but then when I went to check out the purchase of Season 1, it wouldn't take my purchase because of my Canadian credit card. Is there any other place than Amazon.com that sells the season for download? Why would a US seller care about CRTC laws? I don't have Cable or Satellite TV so I am not even sure if Meteorite Men airs on the Canadian Discovery Channel. I have only ever watched 2 episodes and would love to watch the rest. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
What a great story On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote: Abe, Congratulations! I love to here stories like this, I can feel your excitement and am very glad for you and your son. I remember as if it was yesterday when I found my first meteorite, what a great experience and sense of satisfaction. Keep up the good work and happy hunting! Larry -Original Message- From: Guenther lt;abe.guent...@mnsi.netgt; To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:26 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but itwas surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the lastday of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find ourfirst meteorite and to top it off, one so big!When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. Ijust couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someonewho has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. Hewasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To mydelight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doingsome more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles awayfrom the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went tothe wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know ifwe discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignoranceis bliss.A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg.Abe Guenther__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecen tral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
