Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

2014-04-03 Thread rickmont
Pretty good production work (I saw Star Wars one time, and thoroughly 
enjoyed the epic award-winning animation Bolt (you've all gotta see 
it...its great!)...yet s many posts I'm not going to wade through them 
all.


Meteorite in the room question (which probably has already been posted): 
what happened to the stone?  If I'm Mr. Skydiver Guy, I'd follow it.


Just sayin'



-Original Message- 
From: Michael Farmer

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:12 PM
To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. 
Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work 
magic these days.
Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head 
cut by a meteorite?
The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, 
usually zero interest.

Michael Farmer

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On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks 
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I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite.  ;)

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On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:
Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly
slowly with respect to terminal velocity.

Chris

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On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote:

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote:
I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between
50
and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the
lower
end given the tumbling).


The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the
rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity.

Michael in so. Cal.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

2014-04-03 Thread rickmont

Never know wing-suit divers to ride tandem, either.


-Original Message- 
From: rickm...@earthlink.net

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:08 PM
To: Michael Farmer ; Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

Pretty good production work (I saw Star Wars one time, and thoroughly
enjoyed the epic award-winning animation Bolt (you've all gotta see
it...its great!)...yet s many posts I'm not going to wade through them
all.

Meteorite in the room question (which probably has already been posted):
what happened to the stone?  If I'm Mr. Skydiver Guy, I'd follow it.

Just sayin'



-Original Message- 
From: Michael Farmer

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:12 PM
To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts.
Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work
magic these days.
Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head
cut by a meteorite?
The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall,
usually zero interest.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks 
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:


I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite.  ;)

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On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:
Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly
slowly with respect to terminal velocity.

Chris

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On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote:

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote:
I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between
50
and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the
lower
end given the tumbling).


The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the
rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity.

Michael in so. Cal.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New fall

2014-03-20 Thread rickmont

Nice, YES!   Congrats Michael and Melodye!
Precious,
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery



-Original Message- 
From: Robert Woolard

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM
To: Michael Farmer
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New fall

Alright! Alright! Alright!  A super big CONGRATS.  DADDY.   ( That's a 
name you're gonna love hearing that new fall make not all that far in the 
future).


Very best wishes to you and Melodye.  Give her a big hug for me. So happy 
for you both.


Can't wait to meet Evan!

 ( When are you taking him on his first meteorite hunting trip??? ;-)

Robert Woolard

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On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:


New fall in Tucson AZ!  Evan Reese Farmer
6 lb 13 oz. Born 20 March 2014 1157 am.
Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Holding meteorites for pictures

2014-03-19 Thread rickmont
Well, Floyd, wouldn't it be better to preserve fraudulent fingerprints 
rather than wear gloves ???   Or did I misunderstand your point?


-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:52 PM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Holding meteorites for pictures

Hello and good day from sunny Parker, Colorado, USA

I was looking at the ebay listing of one of the list members that I know and 
I had a thought.
That alone is scary. Anyway, the meteorite sample that was for sale was 
pictured.
What I noticed was how well I could see the finger prints, when he was 
holding the sample.
I went through his listings and determined that if I wanted to, I could 
obtain a full set if his fingerprints.

This I thought was concerning enough to bring to all on the list.
If one was inclined to fake the Identification of someone, it would be nice 
to have a set of fingerprints.

Easy to prevent, wear gloves.

Best to all,
Floyd Griff Griffith
IMCA 2510
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Digest Volume 131 Issue 19 (and apersonal note)

2014-03-14 Thread rickmont

Awesome post Kevin!

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Kichinka

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:41 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Digest Volume 131 Issue 19 (and 
apersonal note)


Team Meteorite:


A little (no,a lot) off-topic, but I need some help celebrating an
important personal moment.


I will comment on that first, then about the last 'edition' of the
meteorite-list.


While I am proud to be an American and always will carry that
passport, the small Central American nation of Costa Rica is where I
prefer to live. I like to climb to the edge of gently erupting
volcanoes, trek through deep green forest where the sky-scraping trees
are the theater for a concert of rare bird song, while living among
gentle people who live for adventure.


The women are really hot, too.


Back story - It's been twenty-nine years since I first stepped foot
here, twice since 1990 that I've jumped the high hoops to become a
'Rentista' (a type of provisional resident) so I could stay here,
although with stipulations. After some years of maintaining that
status, one can apply to be a 'permanent resident', and its been ten
months since I applied to live here forever. It's 'home' now. Were
there no problems, I should have achieved this status last September.
There were no problems, I just needed a bureaucrat's signature. In
January I petitioned the Supreme Court to force a decision.

Moments ago, this message arrived from my attorney, Lic. JJ Valerio


Hello Kevin,

Very good news, you are now a Permanent Resident in Costa Rica. I went
to Immigration today and I got the resolution. I hope you be on time
with the payments of the CCSS because we will need it to get the new
Residency ID.



I'm very happy about this.


But while I'm a mile of smiles chuckling at the intensity of 'the
moment', there's more,  because just before this email arrived, I read
the last 'digest' of the m-list. I got sentimental.


Note to Team Meteorite - For privacy reasons (see 'NSA'), I don't
participate in FaceBook.


I was immediately spell-bound reading Alan Rubin's riveting discussion
of the origins of CK's, and his conclusion of no separate parent body.
Alan has helped me many times during days past when I contributed to
'Meteorite' and that help is not forgotten. I read his article twice
to make sure I understood it. Fantastic!


I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.


I have not yet had the privilege of working or exchanging messages
with Carl Agee, who's attitude (and love?) of mets I perceive to be
like some collector-genius. His dissertation of 'UNG's' and Mercury
meteorites was like everything else he contributes to this venue, it
increased my knowledge in the field. Perfect.


I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.


Mike G has evolved to become a 'voice', an 'opinion leader' and
tonight he asks relevant questions that merge the lines between
collectors and researchers about pairings of a strange orphan met
'without a home' wondering why it is so darn expensive!


Super Sonny shares another one of his incredible US finds, a
scattering of OC's using dice in situ for size comparison -he rolled
all Lucky Sevens , not a 'Snake Eyes' in sight- and Paul Gessler
offers a witty comment calling it 'desert pavement'.


Bob Verish, Tom Randall and even 'Steve Arnold (Chicago) make guest
appearances 'this issue', not to forget relative 'newbie' Shawn Alan.


But the list would be lifeless without the spirit of Herr Bernd
Pauley, the guiding light of meteorite collectors worldwide. And here
he is tonight, all 69 years of him, sitting in his rocker, a comforter
in his lap, wife Pauline shuffling into the living room offering a cup
of hot chocolate stirred with a cinamon stick, Bernd sits in front of
the fireplace tapping out his message to us on a iPad  (Will you
still need me, will you still feed me...)


I would be remiss not to mention the almost twenty years (!?) that my
best buddy and fellow Nakhla Noogie Ron Baalke has served our
community with constant updates on the American space mission. Thanks
to Ron, we have all journeyed to Mars, starting with the first lander,
Pathfinder, on July 4, 1997. We crossed our fingers while another
spacecraft neared Comet Temple, another craft succesfully inspecting
4Vesta we've gone just about everywhere together in the Solar
System thanks to Ron. That's something special. And he loves (dead)
dogs, too.


I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.


But I broke out in that LOL when Senor Garcia wondered who the heck
was 'Proud Tom'?


I know Ruben, but if I tell you I'll have to re-crystallize all your
L3.05 chondrites...

Lastly, Art offers this venue that we all come out and play in. Long
may we play.


Bueno. Una fiesta ahora comenzarán en mi casa en la celebración de mi
residencia permanente en la hermosa Costa Rica.


(Good. A party now starts in my house in celebration of 

Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?

2014-03-13 Thread rickmont
And, as this was before my time, Anne has properly given the perspective the 
correct duethanks Anne...and notice that Cap't is not responding, a 
worthy position.


Usually this is where Art slaps us and says enough!


-Original Message- 
From: Anne Black

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:07 PM
To: rubengarcia85...@gmail.com ; alex.sei...@gmx.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; art.jo...@iscs.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?

I don't know who it was either. And yes, Ruben, I don't need to know.

The whole thing was rude, crude, insulting to women and to lots of
members of the MetList.
I hope that person has left the Meteorite World and is still deeply
ashamed.
Yes, Mr. Blood had something to do with it, and I hope he is not proud
of it.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
To: Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net
Cc: MeteorList Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Art Jones
art.jo...@iscs.com
Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?


Do tell Senor Capitan,

Inquiring minds want to know.

It's so funny how many emails I've had off list with list members also
wanting to know his identity, and asking if I've been told privately.
Well, with the notable exception of one very honest lady in Colorado -
who couldn't care less.

No one has told me privately and so I still don't know who it was.

However, It seems that everyone remembers Mr Blood having a hand in it
to some degree.

Come on Cap'n spill it..


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net
wrote:

The so-called Cap´n knows the whole story and can tell all the

answers

that you are longing for. By the way: it wasn´t the best chapter in

the

history of this famous list: it had it´s time, way back then, but then
again things move(d) on to much more serious issues, which was/is

good.


Alex
Berlin/Germany




Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 um 23:10 Uhr
Von: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
An: Art Jones art.jo...@iscs.com
Cc: MeteorList Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?

Hi all,

Yup, I was wrong!

If Art doesn't know it must be a good secret - I thought I alone was
in the dark.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Art Jones art.jo...@iscs.com

wrote:

 Hi Ruben, Gary, and List;

 I remember there were several theories at the time, but I never

heard
anything definitive.


 -Art

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia

 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:05 PM
 To: Gary Fujihara
 Cc: MeteorList
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?

 Hi,

 I guess I was wrong, I've had several private emails and no one

seems to
know - or disclose if they do know.


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com

wrote:

 Hey Ruben, I remember Proud Tom. I always thought there was a

pirate
behind the persona (but I could be wrong).


 gary

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Ruben Garcia

rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
wrote:


 Hello(tap, tap, tap)  Is this thing on?  Can anyone

one hear
me?


 Come on, I know someone out there knows.

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ruben Garcia
 rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Now that it's probably been at least 10 years since Proud Tom's

last

 appearance would someone please tell me (publicly or

privately)

 who was behind that persona?

 I may be the only list member that still remembers him and his
 antics who doesn't know who was behind it.








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Re: [meteorite-list] Cornucopia of chondrules

2014-03-11 Thread rickmont

Martin, Bernd et al,
Wonderful photos, and I immediately wondered the same thing.  As a painter 
of faux (not reality) chondrules, I have steered away from pyroxene so far 
simply because I want to explore grays and black-and-white before tackling 
the radial chondrule. (The big picture includes larger works with types 
3-4-5, eventually into achondritic fantasy-land).  Bernd, you have shed 
some valuable light!  If I am concluding correctly:  thicker slices in TS 
can cross into higher order colors for pyroxene?  Ah!  This will be my 
excuse if I am confronted with a colorfully painted pyroxene element by the 
true meteoriticist!


I will strive to be true to the accepted dimension however.  So, 
meanwhile, Martin, can you share info on the depth of your slice-photos?


Sincerely,
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery


-Original Message- 
From: Bernd V. Pauli

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:06 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Cornucopia of chondrules

Martin writes:

I have now made an attempt to identify the different chondrules,
hoping some folk with much more knowledge than me can chime in
and correct my mistakes!

Hello Martin, Rob, and List,

Martin, congrats on your colorful thin section photos! Well, colour is
the problem I see myself faced with when looking at your thin section
pics. They look almost too colourful. Are you sure the section has the
proper thickness of 30µm (= 0.03 mm)?

Here are my numbers for your thin section pics so you and the other
list members know which pic I'm referring to:

1--2--3
4--5--6
7--8--9
10--11--12
13

Now, #1 does look like an RP chondrule at first sight but if it is a radial
pyroxene chondrule, the interference colours are too high. They should be 
first

order, i.e., gray or grayish-white. Either the TS doesn't have the proper
thickness or we are looking at something else: the high interference colors
would speak in favour of a deformed (?) BO chondrule with slender bars.

Chondrule #10: same problem! Provided the IF colours are correct, this
is another BO chondrule. If it is an RP chondrule, the interference colours
are wrong.


My NWA 5730 has lots of metal-rimmed chondrules, FeNi is troilite-rimmed,
porphyritic chondrules are abundant, numerous porphyritic chondrules harbor
light-green translucent hypersthene crystals + a gray clayey-looking broken
chondrule (d = 5.1 mm). I wonder if it is something carbonaceous or if it
experienced some kind of silicate darkening.

Best wishes from the owner of a 21.4 gr endcut that I got from Rob in 2011!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

2014-03-10 Thread rickmont

Hi LIST!   Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure.  How did Gujba form?
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery

-Original Message- 
From: almi...@localnet.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Greetings all,

One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the
meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually
involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active
million people wanting to discuss the subject.

I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are
capable of looking up their own information without someone posting
multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new
comers.

Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic
ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post
before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many
informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)

We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a
helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss.
Could also be once a month.

Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two
years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on
the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get
discussion going.

The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable 
level.


Just some ideas.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years as a dealer

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