Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
why don't you put a sign private road, trespassers will be fined/prosecuted like in NY and many other states ? I go often off road all around the world, I would have never imagined that a private road wouldn't be marked... and have quite some experience going off roads, or off the beaten paths. I guess some parts in Southern USA are a real other world... Glad I joined the Met-List... I know now ! and will avoid troubles out of common sense ! Michael B, France - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition) On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:47:34 -0400, you wrote: Read the article again. A 66 year old lady confronted two burglers on her property last October. Given that, Sonny and Mike are lucky they only had to pay a $2K fine. They might have been shot. I like and respect Sonny and Mike, but if they didn't ask permission in the first place, they had no business on the pproperty and they only have themselves to blame for the outcome. As I just said to someone off-list: I live in Anderson County, South Carolina (a few counties away from Burke, Georgia, as you can see on a map.) I also live down a private, unmarked, ungated dirt road. And in my experience, strangers coming on to your property almost always are trying to sell you something that you don't want, or take away something that you do. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:24:29 +0200, you wrote: why don't you put a sign private road, trespassers will be fined/prosecuted I would guess because it is pretty much taken for granted (here, at least) that a road that isn't paved and doesn't have signs is a private driveway leading to a home or a business. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
ok Darren, I have to minor my previous post In NY state, when I see a mailbox in front of an unpaved road I know that it is (at least partially) private and won't go, even if no sign. USA being a rather new country, most of the roads go to a private property, I have to admit, not like in France, and many other countries, where unpaved roads are common and rarely private, unless advertised otherwise. They are very ancient paths going thru fields, landscape, from one village to the other, reminiscent of old middle age roads, and most of the time unpaved. I feel that Mike Miller and Sonny never seriously thought they were on private property Good evening everyone Michael B, France - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: elemen...@peconic.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition) On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:24:29 +0200, you wrote: why don't you put a sign private road, trespassers will be fined/prosecuted I would guess because it is pretty much taken for granted (here, at least) that a road that isn't paved and doesn't have signs is a private driveway leading to a home or a business. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:57:17 +0200, you wrote: I feel that Mike Miller and Sonny never seriously thought they were on private property No, I make no claim at all that they had any intention of doing anything wrong-- just that I can see the land owner's point of view. (And I'm more likely to trust the judgement of objective third parties like the police and court system than those of the two sides of the case). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
No, I make no claim at all that they had any intention of doing anything wrong-- just that I can see the land owner's point of view. (And I'm more likely to trust the judgement of objective third parties like the police and court system than those of the two sides of the case). This all kinda reminds me of the movie, My Cousin Vinny. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
I don't doubt that Mike and Sonny were on private land without permission, they have admitted so. Was there was grounds for an arrest buy an unbiased police men? Sure. It was for a court case to decide their guilt, had they wanted to plead Not Guilty. As I understand, they decided to plead Guilty. I assume they did this either because they were technically guilty as charged, or because it was better for them to make such a plea than to take their chances and money to try to fight the charges. With the attitude of the judge to go over the law and to order people out of his county, I think taking the path of least resistance would have been very attractive to most anyone found in the same situation. To claim that such a judge was an objective third party in this case seems to be a bit of a stretch. And, not that we can believe the newspaper 100%, but it seemed that part of the reason the judge was being so easy on them was because the land owner wasn't wanting to push the issue. Which, coming from a gun toting, burglar apprehending victim, that shows that maybe even she thought sending them to jail was too extreme, even if such a jail sentence could have been within the limits of the fullest extent of the law. That is just my take. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:43:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cyna...@charter.net writes: On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:57:17 +0200, you wrote: I feel that Mike Miller and Sonny never seriously thought they were on private property No, I make no claim at all that they had any intention of doing anything wrong-- just that I can see the land owner's point of view. (And I'm more likely to trust the judgement of objective third parties like the police and court system than those of the two sides of the case). **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
That's a sorry state of affairs, but unfortunately, there are many such stories like this across the US every day. Dave - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition) Regarding the Judge and his Get out of Dodge statement. That's not uncommon. If you've ever seen some of the videos of cops in action, you'll see that they tell suspicious people to get out of neighborhoods all the time. I was once a fireman and many years ago, I recall being on a call for an unconscious person. Well...the guy was faking it. Eventually he realized the jig was up and came clean. He was trying to get arrested so he can spend a week or so in jail to rest up. The story came out that the police dept in Dallas, Texas bought him a bus ticket for southern california. So the California police department bought him another bus ticket for Dallas. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
