Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
My site has been locked for nearly two years. I do 99% of my business private now. No need for website. I have my customer base and they get notifications of new stuff privately. I could care less about google rankings. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, almi...@localnet.com wrote: Greetings, I wanted to address this post and agree with others and their comments that they are not concern about this data. My website went from a 2 to a 0 because I have been preoccupied with taking care of a relative and removed the website for the time being, over a year (so as not to waste people's time when I was not on). It has nothing to do with padding the numbers in my case (I have a webmaster that takes care of things and doesn't do that sort of thing) It also has nothing to do with any wrong doing, virus problems, illegal content. While I am not concerned about ranking, when people post these type of items here then have to defend my business and good name. I've spent too much time doing things right to allow anyone to think this numbers game is anything but that and efforts by others to look like the knights in shiny armor, why else would they post? I've got good customers who know me and tend to buy from me with out all the website glare. It's why I have been in the business for 25 years now. If you have any concerns please email me off list. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years in the Meteorite business Quoting Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com: mitterling.com - 2 (0) The reasons for a PR-0 are many, but it's usually a punishment handed down by Google for sites that are caught cheating the PR system, or for sites that are deemed to contain dangerous or illegal content. Dangerous content can include viruses, malware, or links to sites known for viruses or malware. Another reason for PR-0 is a website being brand new and unknown on the web. Since none of these websites are new, we can only assume their PR was penalized for some reason. The PR-0 club is not a good place to be. It knocks your website down in the search results and hurts your overall traffic. But, it's not a permanent dungeon and sites can pull themselves out of the PR-0 hole. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Hi list This year, the only PR-6 meteorite website is the Meteoritical Society. Meteorite Market and MeteorCrater.com were both demoted to PR-5. This tends to prove that Science is taking over Business in meteorite, at last, hopefully! Best regards Michel Franco IMCA 3869 Met Soc Member. -Message d'origine- De : meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] De la part de Paul Harris Envoyé : lundi 23 décembre 2013 08:11 À : meteorite-list Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point. PageRank is not really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th. it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline. PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in their search results. I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for sale (the results can be seen in the image link below). The second column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate with the search rankings. This is the way PR has been behaving for years. http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg Happy Webmastering! Paul On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3
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Paul is absolutely right. And one other thing that some may not be aware of is that you will be ranked differently depending on which country you are searching from and which Google you are using. I get very different results with different combinations of these. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul Harris Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 6:11 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point. PageRank is not really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th. it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline. PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in their search results. I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for sale (the results can be seen in the image link below). The second column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate with the search rankings. This is the way PR has been behaving for years. http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg Happy Webmastering! Paul On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3
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Hi all! I no longer have any commercial interest in websites, so this Google PR ranking means absolutely nothing to mebasically could careless. It would be silly of me, by nature, to think I needed any of this for any purchase anywhere on the internet. I don't need it and never needed it for my businesses. Google Analytics data is good to see how your business efforts attract interest in a web site but it is so easy to cheat (and you are only cheating yourself) it's often worthless information and is not necessarily tied to your bottom line. So the only people this helps, with small hobby businesses in mind, are very few. And, I doubt that these rankings, that the vast majority of people could careless about, did much of anything to seriously improve a bottom line in such a business. I suppose if you are a numbers geek, you could some how tie your bottom link to various PR rankings, but I serious doubt the majority of you have done this.I'd guess it is very much a waste of your time. In regards to a business, I think Ruben had a great idea with one of the largest followings, if not the largest followings of all time. Am I wrong? The point being that he was out there sharing his adventures and was actually active in the community, helping people, sharing his knowledge, etc. I've never been anywhere with him that I did not see him help someone in regards to meteorites. I will however agree cameras are like magnets to him! LOL! I am not much of a buyer but he did what it took to be in my absolute top rating, regardless of what someone else thinks is a good PR rating. If you want true PR and you want to grow your business, then do what it takes and forget about these silly big boy numbers games. Get out there and be part of a larger community, because most of you are not known any better than the up and coming Moroccan dealers that sooner or later will get their PR act together and kick your butt!Living in a 'click' will not grow your business. Just my 2 cents. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Jim Wooddell On 12/23/2013 3:54 AM, Jeff Kuyken wrote: Paul is absolutely right. And one other thing that some may not be aware of is that you will be ranked differently depending on which country you are searching from and which Google you are using. I get very different results with different combinations of these. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul Harris Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 6:11 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point. PageRank is not really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th. it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline. PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in their search results. I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for sale (the results can be seen in the image link below). The second column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate with the search rankings. This is the way PR has been behaving for years. http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg Happy Webmastering! Paul On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Greetings, I wanted to address this post and agree with others and their comments that they are not concern about this data. My website went from a 2 to a 0 because I have been preoccupied with taking care of a relative and removed the website for the time being, over a year (so as not to waste people's time when I was not on). It has nothing to do with padding the numbers in my case (I have a webmaster that takes care of things and doesn't do that sort of thing) It also has nothing to do with any wrong doing, virus problems, illegal content. While I am not concerned about ranking, when people post these type of items here then have to defend my business and good name. I've spent too much time doing things right to allow anyone to think this numbers game is anything but that and efforts by others to look like the knights in shiny armor, why else would they post? I've got good customers who know me and tend to buy from me with out all the website glare. It's why I have been in the business for 25 years now. If you have any concerns please email me off list. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites 25 years in the Meteorite business Quoting Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com: mitterling.com - 2 (0) The reasons for a PR-0 are many, but it's usually a punishment handed down by Google for sites that are caught cheating the PR system, or for sites that are deemed to contain dangerous or illegal content. Dangerous content can include viruses, malware, or links to sites known for viruses or malware. Another reason for PR-0 is a website being brand new and unknown on the web. Since none of these websites are new, we can only assume their PR was penalized for some reason. The PR-0 club is not a good place to be. It knocks your website down in the search results and hurts your overall traffic. But, it's not a permanent dungeon and sites can pull themselves out of the PR-0 hole. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Al and List, I want to clarify a few things here. Al, nobody, including me, would ever accuse you of wrong-doing. I said that a drop to PR-0 is usually the result of a penalty by Google. I explained this at more length in my original report and perhaps should have been more clear in this last post. It is a fact that when a website drops to PR-0, there is a reason for it. Google may be arbitrary at times, but they do not randomly penalize websites. In your case Al, your drop to PR-0 is explained by your hiatus from the web. Taking a website down completely for an extended period of time can result in a dramatic PR drop. In your case, this must be what happened. I did not single anybody out and only made a generalized comment about the most common reasons for a PR penalty. efforts by others to look like the knights in shiny armor, why else would they post? I guess this a reference to me. My motivation in publishing these numbers and my reports is to help webmasters increase their traffic and their income. I have been heavily involved with webmastering since the very first days of the internet and I have seen years of trends involving traffic and conversions. In fact, SEO (search engine optimization) is closely related to Page Rank and many businesses pay hefty sums of money to full-time professionals whose sole job is to do exactly what I just did - analyzing web traffic trends and increasing traffic and conversions. Go to LinkedIn and search for SEO services - it's a real profession in high demand. Do not shoot the messenger. Everyone on this List knows you (Al) are an honest man and straight shooter. And anyone who Googles your name will see that. The same cannot be said for some others and people in the Meteorite Community know who is who. So, if anyone mistakenly thought my report was an indictment of your website or character, they are in error. That was certainly not my intent and I am merely reporting the numbers and providing some general analysis. FWIW, Al you are far from alone in seeing your PR drop to zero. Norm Lehrman, Michael Johnson and Erich Haiderer all experienced the same reduction in PR and everyone knows they are good people as well. Google PR is not always a fair representation of a website's informational value and as Paul Harris pointed out - Google PR is far from being the only determining factor in search engine performance for a website. And as Jeff Kuyken pointed out, PR can vary depending on geographical area. Your PR might be zero from my iteration of Google, but I have no way of determining what the PR is for versions of Google in Europe, Asia, or elsewhere. Whether we like it or not, search engines are a significant source of traffic and new visitors for any website. People will always feel confident in buying from a source they are familiar with, regardless of PR. But, brand new visitors who come across your website in the results of a search engine query may become your next best friend or most loyal repeat customer. Some of my best clients have found me via Google or Facebook - the latter is an entirely different game and story. Jim W. said - If you want true PR and you want to grow your business, then do what it takes and forget about these silly big boy numbers games. Get out there and be part of a larger community, because most of you are not known any better than the up and coming Moroccan dealers that sooner or later will get their PR act together and kick your butt!Living in a 'click' will not grow your business. Jim, I agree with the spirit of what you said. But, the internet is a technology game, whether we like it or not. Ignoring things like Google PR or conversion rates is not a positive thing - it is like statistics in sports - they often do not tell the whole story, but much useful information can be gleaned from them. If a website is not living up to it's potential, then it is doing it's owner a disservice and if that owner ignores ways to improve their traffic/conversions, then they are doing their business a disservice. For those who do not care about the business side of meteorites or the technology side of the internet, then ignore reports such as these and continue doing business in the way that best suits your needs. Best regards and Happy Holidays, MikeG PS - some private comments and responses to my post : Nice work Thanks for this interesting report. I don't know what the mainstream dealer's reaction to your report is. But from my viewpoint as hunter/finder, and buyer/collector, I think you deserve one helluva major attaboy! -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 12/23/13, almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com wrote: Greetings,
[meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3 outofabluesky.com - 3 paleobond.com - 3 rocksonfire.com - 3 rocksfromspace.org - 3 rocksfromheaven.com - 3 saharamet.com - 3 smf.com.ar - 3 stevearnoldmeteorites.com - 3 spacerox.net - 3 star-bits.com - 3 tektiteinc.com - 3 wanderingstarmeteorites.com - 3 caspermeteorites.com - 2 cosmichighway.com - 2 kdmeteorites.com - 2 meteoriteblog.com - 2 meteoritenhaus.de - 2 mitterling.com - 2 strufe.net - 2 thetricottetcollection.com - 2 meteoriteclub.com - 1 qmig.net - 1 emeraldislemeteorites.com - 0 historicmeteorites.com - 0 mhcmagazine.com - 0 sahara-gems.com - 0 --- Now the 2013 list. The first number is the 2010 PR. The second number in parentheses is the current 2013 PR. meteoritemarket.com - 6 (5) meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 (5) aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 (4) meteorite-times.com - 5 (4) meteoritecentral.com - 5 (4) meteorlab.com - 5 (4) meteoritemen.com - 5 (4) nyrockman.com - 5 (4) imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 (5) galactic-stone.com - 4 (3) impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 (3) meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 (3) meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 (3) meteoritelab.com - 4 (3) meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 (3) mhmeteorites.com - 4 (3) michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 (3) planetbrey.com - 4 (3) spacerocksuk.com - 4 (3)
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Hi Mike, Cool stuff for sure. However, the rankings are only part of the story. For example, my website Mr-Meteorite.net and MrMeteorite.com (I own both names but they lead to the same site) only fell because nearly two years ago I removed all content from my site. As some may recall I had millions of views on my youtube videos which were attached to my site. Unfortunately, that was the problem! After all, I can only answer so many is this a meteorite type emails. Since I've never really sold meteorites from my site I figured it just wasn't worth it. It just seemed to take a lot of time with little reward. Strangely enough. I just re-posted a few of my greatest and most watched videos back on my website this morning. They'll be available until I get over run with questions again about meteorite hunting, etching or I.D. It'll be interesting to see what next year looks like. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3 outofabluesky.com - 3 paleobond.com - 3 rocksonfire.com - 3 rocksfromspace.org - 3 rocksfromheaven.com - 3 saharamet.com - 3 smf.com.ar - 3 stevearnoldmeteorites.com - 3 spacerox.net - 3 star-bits.com - 3 tektiteinc.com - 3 wanderingstarmeteorites.com - 3 caspermeteorites.com - 2 cosmichighway.com - 2 kdmeteorites.com - 2 meteoriteblog.com - 2 meteoritenhaus.de - 2 mitterling.com - 2 strufe.net - 2 thetricottetcollection.com - 2 meteoriteclub.com - 1
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
Thanks Mike What a great way to see how Google views your site. I just started building mine late September and have a ranking of 1. I am using Word Press and theme I chose is limited to a certain number of pages so I am sitting in neutral until my computer guy finds me another. I hope to offer a few things for sale once this is rectified. Merry Christmas to the list and Happy New Year. Frank Tricia L Carroll www.tlcmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3 outofabluesky.com - 3 paleobond.com - 3 rocksonfire.com - 3 rocksfromspace.org - 3 rocksfromheaven.com - 3 saharamet.com - 3 smf.com.ar - 3 stevearnoldmeteorites.com - 3 spacerox.net - 3 star-bits.com - 3 tektiteinc.com - 3 wanderingstarmeteorites.com - 3 caspermeteorites.com - 2 cosmichighway.com - 2 kdmeteorites.com - 2 meteoriteblog.com - 2 meteoritenhaus.de - 2 mitterling.com - 2 strufe.net - 2 thetricottetcollection.com - 2 meteoriteclub.com - 1 qmig.net - 1 emeraldislemeteorites.com - 0 historicmeteorites.com - 0 mhcmagazine.com - 0 sahara-gems.com - 0 --- Now the 2013 list. The first number is the 2010 PR. The second number in parentheses is the current 2013 PR. meteoritemarket.com - 6 (5) meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 (5) aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 (4) meteorite-times.com - 5 (4
Re: [meteorite-list] 2013 Meteorite Website Pagerank Report
I wouldn't be concerned about moving down a point. PageRank is not really a priority anymore and updates only come once or twice a year. Matt Cutts of Google said the following on Twitter on the 16th. it's not unusual to see PR shift up or down slightly, due to recalibration + it's possible that sites are right on a borderline. PageRank is only a small part of what Google uses to determine rankings in their search results. I just did a top 10 report for meteorites for sale (the results can be seen in the image link below). The second column from the right shows PageRank and has values from 1 to 5 which do NOT correlate with the search rankings. This is the way PR has been behaving for years. http://www.meteorite.com/images/gpr.jpg Happy Webmastering! Paul On 12/22/2013 6:21 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Greetings Meteorite Dealers, Three years ago, I released my first report of Google Pageranks for Meteorite Dealer Websites. If you missed it, I will briefly summarize what it was. I tracked down the URL for every meteorite dealer I could find - 89 of them. I then logged the Google Pagerank for all of those websites. Finally, I gave some details about what Google Pagerank (PR) is and why it is important for online sellers. I also gave some advice on how to increase your site's PR. In the three years since then, the meteorite world has undergone some changes and Google has changed it's PR formula. Both of these things are normal and inevitable. Google regularly tweaks it's PR formula to combat PR-cheating and to optimize the value of their search results. In essence, Google is constantly moving the goalposts, so to speak, and they are very secretive about how their PR formula works - this keeps web developers guessing and cheaters on their toes. Well, in the three years since my report, meteorite websites have taken a hit from Google. Apparently, Google does not think much of meteorite dealers, because it has punished a good number of us with a reduction in PR. Why? I have no idea, other than the fact that it obviously has something to do with the change in formula. I charged money for the last report. I am not going to charge for this one because this is not a full-blown report like the first. Also, I do not feel right charging for something that is not going to clearly benefit the buyer. While the advice in my first report was valid, Google decided to reduce many sites' PR for no apparent reason, so much of my advice was in vain. (Although, much of the advice is still good to consider.) So, let us cut to the chase. Listed first is the Google PR for all of the websites in the original 2010 report. Following that is a list of the current PR for those same websites as of 2013. Lastly, I will add some comments. First, the 2010 list : (sorted by PR and alphabetized) meteoritemarket.com - 6 meteoriticalsociety.org - 6 meteorcrater.com - 6 aerolite.org - 5 meteorites.asu.edu - 5 meteorite.com - 5 meteorite-times.com - 5 meteoritecentral.com - 5 meteorlab.com - 5 meteoritemen.com - 5 nyrockman.com - 5 imca.cc - 5 arizonaskiesmeteorites.com - 4 bimsociety.org - 4 encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com - 4 galactic-stone.com - 4 impactika.com - 4 kansasmeteorite.com - 4 meteoritesplus.com - 4 meteoriteman.com - 4 meteorites.com.au - 4 meteorites.com - 4 meteorites.tv - 4 meteoritehunter.com - 4 meteorite.fr - 4 meteoriteguy.com - 4 meteoritestudies.com - 4 meteorman.org - 4 meteoritelab.com - 4 meteorites-for-sale.com - 4 mhmeteorites.com - 4 michaelbloodmeteorites.com - 4 minresco.com - 4 mr-meteorite.net - 4 planetbrey.com - 4 spacerocksuk.com - 4 schoolersinc.com - 4 sv-meteorites.com - 4 bigkahuna-meteorites.com - 3 carionmineraux.com - 3 catchafallingstar.com - 3 chladnis-heirs.com - 3 fallingrocks.com - 3 fernlea.tripod.com - 3 haberer-meteorite.de - 3 illinoismeteorites.com - 3 jensenmeteorites.com - 3 lunarrock.com - 3 macovich.com - 3 marmet-meteorites.com - 3 meteoritecollector.org - 3 meteoris.de - 3 meteorite-lab.de - 3 meteorite-shop.com - 3 meteoritesusa.com - 3 meteorite-mirko.de - 3 meteorite-identification.com - 3 meteoritelabels.com - 3 meteoritefinder.com - 3 meteoritica.com - 3 nakhladogmeteorites.com - 3 nevadameteorites.com - 3 niger-meteorite-recon.de - 3 outofabluesky.com - 3 paleobond.com - 3 rocksonfire.com - 3 rocksfromspace.org - 3 rocksfromheaven.com - 3 saharamet.com - 3 smf.com.ar - 3 stevearnoldmeteorites.com - 3 spacerox.net - 3 star-bits.com - 3 tektiteinc.com - 3 wanderingstarmeteorites.com - 3 caspermeteorites.com - 2 cosmichighway.com - 2 kdmeteorites.com - 2 meteoriteblog.com - 2 meteoritenhaus.de - 2 mitterling.com - 2 strufe.net - 2 thetricottetcollection.com - 2 meteoriteclub.com - 1 qmig.net - 1 emeraldislemeteorites.com - 0 historicmeteorites.com - 0 mhcmagazine.com - 0 sahara-gems.com - 0 --- Now the 2013 list. The first number is the 2010 PR. The second number in parentheses is the current 2013 PR. meteoritemarket.com - 6
