Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Jim, Mike, list, My wife has taught kindergarten in public shools for 28 years and she has used this 'DonorsChoose.org' web site successfully herself in the past. She has also been very disappointed with this site in the past. The problem with this web site is that , if the teacher is unsuccessful in collecting 100% of her funds needed by the deadline. She forfeits the entire amount and DonorsChiise.org keeps 100% of whatever amount of money was actually collected. In other words this teacher may get nothing , nada , zero, of the money you gave. So, it seems this org loves to see people ask for large sums because they keep the money collected in it's entirety and the teacher gets nothing if they fail to collect all of the money requested. Further more. This teacher has no say in where the money collected ends up going. In my opinion if they were fair they would allow the teacher to set a lower goal that would match the funds collected. But they do not. So, unless you are willing to give 100% of the money she needs she may end up with nothing. Best regards, Carl meteoritemax Cheers Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teachers choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. May you would consider contacting this teach direct and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO (Karl Aston) 2. AD: New material, rare American finds, and more (Mike Bandli) 3. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Sterling K. Webb) 4. AD: Special: An unique and truly exotic anomalous Mesosiderite - NWA 7025 (Chladnis Heirs) 5. this time it is for good (steve arnold) 6. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Chris Peterson) 7. Re: this time it is for good (Mike Groetz) 8. Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Kevin Kichinka) 9. test (JoshuaTreeMuseum) 10. **Ad** Last Minute eBay Reminder New Arizona Find, Tissint.. (Larry Atkins) 11. Re: this time
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Hey Mike! Got the word today that this project's funding was fulfilled! Very cool! Hope it help inspire a future Geologist/s!!! Jim - Original Message - From: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com To: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Hi Mike! I really have no clue who she is. I would truly like to see meteoritic and planetary sciences start way early in a child's life. The schools I went to growing up had nothing! I did some research and noticed her district does in fact recommend that service she used.possibly due to a lower overhead for managing the money. I was thinking her hands might be tied. Technically she should probably not be accepting money on her own for that districts classesshe is an employee and that could lead to many issues! However, if you think about it, 17% is not too bad considering other Non-Profits that use about 80% for overhead for disaster services! And, it's traceable as to how the money is spent, if I understand it correctly. I'll have to check out her site. I am looking for an AZ public school that can take advantage of the AZ tax law, $1 for $1 match on the AZ State Tax that can somehow make meteorite donations fit the schema. They then will be getting meteorites if they have a valid reason! I hope she raises the funds for what she needsit would be very cool if it happened in our neighborhood of friends and colleagues! Best! Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Jim, you beat me to it ... I came back to my computer, thinking I might at least ask if you knew how a person could send a donation to the teacher and the school, and what do I find but your note suggesting just that. Mrs Baker does seem to be a pretty cool teacher. I might wish my kids had had such an imaginative science teacher. Someone with a personal website titled TheScienceQueen.net deserves more than lip service. Yes, I will forward her a donation via PayPal -- all I needed was her email address, and it shows up on her Science Queen page. Please don't let my personal biases and rant dissuade you from encouraging support for worthwhile activities. Goodness knows there is as big a need today as ever for creative science education. I merely have to think back to a recent political campaign that somehow got their wires so crossed as to poke fun at a $2 million dollar 'overhead projector' Press On!-- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teacher's choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. Maybe you would consider contacting this teacher directly and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Hi Carl! What are you waiting for! ;) Jim - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com; Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Jim, Mike, list, My wife has taught kindergarten in public shools for 28 years and she has used this 'DonorsChoose.org' web site successfully herself in the past. She has also been very disappointed with this site in the past. The problem with this web site is that , if the teacher is unsuccessful in collecting 100% of her funds needed by the deadline. She forfeits the entire amount and DonorsChiise.org keeps 100% of whatever amount of money was actually collected. In other words this teacher may get nothing , nada , zero, of the money you gave. So, it seems this org loves to see people ask for large sums because they keep the money collected in it's entirety and the teacher gets nothing if they fail to collect all of the money requested. Further more. This teacher has no say in where the money collected ends up going. In my opinion if they were fair they would allow the teacher to set a lower goal that would match the funds collected. But they do not. So, unless you are willing to give 100% of the money she needs she may end up with nothing. Best regards, Carl meteoritemax Cheers Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teachers choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. May you would consider contacting this teach direct and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO (Karl Aston) 2. AD: New material, rare American finds, and more (Mike Bandli) 3. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Sterling K. Webb) 4. AD: Special: An unique and truly exotic anomalous Mesosiderite - NWA 7025 (Chladnis Heirs) 5. this time it is for good (steve arnold) 6. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Chris Peterson) 7. Re: this time it is for good (Mike
[meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
AZ teacher asking for help with her Geology project! Seems like a good project to help with! http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/proposal.html?id=767782verify=673289514 Together, I am thinking this could be completed in a few days if we all pitched in! Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
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Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Hi Mike, I too didn't like the DonorsChoice.org site. According the site they will give a $600 camera to the teacher/school if the get $900 in donations. Great for the teacher, but not the best use of the donor's funds. I spent 2 seconds of Google time and I found the same camera almost $100 cheaper than DonorsChoice.org quoted. I think that I would love the profit margin that DonorsChoice has. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fiedler Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO (Karl Aston) 2. AD: New material, rare American finds, and more (Mike Bandli) 3. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Sterling K. Webb) 4. AD: Special: An unique and truly exotic anomalous Mesosiderite - NWA 7025 (Chladnis Heirs) 5. this time it is for good (steve arnold) 6. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Chris Peterson) 7. Re: this time it is for good (Mike Groetz) 8. Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Kevin Kichinka) 9. test (JoshuaTreeMuseum) 10. **Ad** Last Minute eBay Reminder New Arizona Find, Tissint.. (Larry Atkins) 11. Re: this time it is for good (Richard Montgomery) 12. this time it is for good (Jim Strope) 13. Re: Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Jim Wooddell) 14. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 15. AD 5.5 grams NWA 2986 (martian) + other items for sale (Pel? Pierre-Marie) 16. AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology (Jim Wooddell) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:49:55 -0500 From: Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: cadnhlccfhqmfayqgvyixvro3n6qew5m+tymuacqk_2_ogd9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, As many of you have seen, slices of a beautiful new pallasite Conception Junction, Missouri USA were first made available late in 2011. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Much of the material has been sold and the remaining inventory can be viewed at http://conceptionjunctionpallasite.com Please take a look. Thanks, Karl Aston -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:40:30 -0700 From: Mike Bandli fuzzf
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teachers choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. May you would consider contacting this teach direct and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO (Karl Aston) 2. AD: New material, rare American finds, and more (Mike Bandli) 3. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Sterling K. Webb) 4. AD: Special: An unique and truly exotic anomalous Mesosiderite - NWA 7025 (Chladnis Heirs) 5. this time it is for good (steve arnold) 6. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Chris Peterson) 7. Re: this time it is for good (Mike Groetz) 8. Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Kevin Kichinka) 9. test (JoshuaTreeMuseum) 10. **Ad** Last Minute eBay Reminder New Arizona Find, Tissint.. (Larry Atkins) 11. Re: this time it is for good (Richard Montgomery) 12. this time it is for good (Jim Strope) 13. Re: Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Jim Wooddell) 14. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 15. AD 5.5 grams NWA 2986 (martian) + other items for sale (Pel? Pierre-Marie) 16. AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology (Jim Wooddell) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:49:55 -0500 From: Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: cadnhlccfhqmfayqgvyixvro3n6qew5m+tymuacqk_2_ogd9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, As many of you have seen, slices of a beautiful new pallasite Conception Junction, Missouri USA were first made available late in 2011. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Much of the material has been sold and the remaining inventory can be viewed at http://conceptionjunctionpallasite.com Please take a look. Thanks, Karl Aston -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:40:30 -0700 From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: New material, rare American finds
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Jim, you beat me to it ... I came back to my computer, thinking I might at least ask if you knew how a person could send a donation to the teacher and the school, and what do I find but your note suggesting just that. Mrs Baker does seem to be a pretty cool teacher. I might wish my kids had had such an imaginative science teacher. Someone with a personal website titled TheScienceQueen.net deserves more than lip service. Yes, I will forward her a donation via PayPal -- all I needed was her email address, and it shows up on her Science Queen page. Please don't let my personal biases and rant dissuade you from encouraging support for worthwhile activities. Goodness knows there is as big a need today as ever for creative science education. I merely have to think back to a recent political campaign that somehow got their wires so crossed as to poke fun at a $2 million dollar 'overhead projector' Press On!-- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teacher's choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. Maybe you would consider contacting this teacher directly and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - new pallasite Conception Junction, MO (Karl Aston) 2. AD: New material, rare American finds, and more (Mike Bandli) 3. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Sterling K. Webb) 4. AD: Special: An unique and truly exotic anomalous Mesosiderite - NWA 7025 (Chladnis Heirs) 5. this time it is for good (steve arnold) 6. Re: Solar flares (ot) ? or are ions meteorites? (Chris Peterson) 7. Re: this time it is for good (Mike Groetz) 8. Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Kevin Kichinka) 9. test (JoshuaTreeMuseum) 10. **Ad** Last Minute eBay Reminder New Arizona Find, Tissint.. (Larry Atkins) 11. Re: this time it is for good (Richard Montgomery) 12. this time it is for good (Jim Strope) 13. Re: Tissint? Yes, it tis! (and a tease on Shergotty) (Jim Wooddell) 14. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 15
Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology
Hi Mike! I really have no clue who she is. I would truly like to see meteoritic and planetary sciences start way early in a child's life. The schools I went to growing up had nothing! I did some research and noticed her district does in fact recommend that service she used.possibly due to a lower overhead for managing the money. I was thinking her hands might be tied. Technically she should probably not be accepting money on her own for that districts classesshe is an employee and that could lead to many issues! However, if you think about it, 17% is not too bad considering other Non-Profits that use about 80% for overhead for disaster services! And, it's traceable as to how the money is spent, if I understand it correctly. I'll have to check out her site. I am looking for an AZ public school that can take advantage of the AZ tax law, $1 for $1 match on the AZ State Tax that can somehow make meteorite donations fit the schema. They then will be getting meteorites if they have a valid reason! I hope she raises the funds for what she needsit would be very cool if it happened in our neighborhood of friends and colleagues! Best! Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Jim, you beat me to it ... I came back to my computer, thinking I might at least ask if you knew how a person could send a donation to the teacher and the school, and what do I find but your note suggesting just that. Mrs Baker does seem to be a pretty cool teacher. I might wish my kids had had such an imaginative science teacher. Someone with a personal website titled TheScienceQueen.net deserves more than lip service. Yes, I will forward her a donation via PayPal -- all I needed was her email address, and it shows up on her Science Queen page. Please don't let my personal biases and rant dissuade you from encouraging support for worthwhile activities. Goodness knows there is as big a need today as ever for creative science education. I merely have to think back to a recent political campaign that somehow got their wires so crossed as to poke fun at a $2 million dollar 'overhead projector' Press On!-- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Mike and thank you for your consideration. Many hundreds of teachers are using this service and I too think the recommend fee is a bit high for a Non-Profit. Still, I donated as it was this teacher's choice to use that service and to apply the suggested, non mandatory contribution to the site that helps promote the request. I did not use the PayPal feature, so that is good info. Maybe you would consider contacting this teacher directly and helping! That would completely eliminate the website organization. Just a thought, if you wish to help. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Mike Fiedler mlfied...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AZ Teacher asking for help - Geology Maybe I'm just having a bad day, but the contribution mechanism kind of annoyed me. I think few things are more deserving of support than a teacher taking the initiative to make science exciting and compelling to young people. I nearly contributed, but then ran into some deal-breakers: While the 'DonorsChoose.org' web site does accept contributions by PayPal, they require that the donor 'pay-by-check' . . . The whole idea of PayPal is to not share unnecessarily your personal info. I would accept PayPal as it functions on ebay. . . . payee gets my email, my address, and the money. Secondly, once you share your email, there seems no way to 'opt-out' of being hit up with unrelated requests. I appreciate it when a person who shares a common interest sends me info about a worthy cause. Case in point: I recently contributed to the project discussed at the URL http://projectfreedom.bbnow.org/about.php , but it was because another recumbent bike enthusiast referred me to the site. Shared interest is the basis of 'community'. But I don't want some anonymous ''organizing entrepreneur' who accepts an (OPTIONAL???) donation equal to 17% of a project's costs deciding what I need to learn about next. And emailing me a steady stream of 'opportunities' to make 'optional' donations to his personal pocket. I get way too many unfocused solicitations as it is. That 17% seems a hefty cut to 'OPTIONALLY' accept for the service of sharing info, and processing the collection of EFTs. Just how optional is optional? The verbiage alone sets my teeth on edge. OK, end of off topic rant. Hope everyone has a nice day! -- Mike On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send
