Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
All, I had a similar experience to Patrick's. Very well handled from front to finish... Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:42 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. I have bid on a number of items at the last Bonham auction, and everything went extremely well. I won 2 items with the opening bid, way below the maximum that I had bid online, and I won one other item while on the phone with them, bidding live. Shipping was handled via a shipping agent that Bonham had recommended. Within a day of the auction they picked my items up at the Bonham office, packed it up and shipped it with FedEx overnight. It cost a few hundred bucks, but for all that it seemed reasonable. That was my experience anyways. I am looking forward to the coming auction - looks like they have some good stuff lined up again. All the best...,... -- Patrick www.pallasite.ca -- Original Message --- From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite Mailing List meteorite- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ ___ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- End of Original Message --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
I've bid on several items - autograph letters of scientists - in auctions overseas (the Netherlands and Australia), and it's similar to the rules to follow with meteorite or any other dealers - know who you are dealing with and ask plenty of questions. In one Australian auction, I heard of the problem with expensive shipping costs - that appears to be how many auction houses make part of their money - they subcontract the shipping to an expensive shipper - I obtained an estimate of the shipping costs before bidding, and the final cost for shipping agreed with the quote. In another auction in the Netherlands, I submitted an absentee bid, and won significantly below my maximum bid. I know Bonhams is a well-known acution house, although I have never bid with them, but just because they are well known, doesn't mean that everything will go smoothly. Best thing, as Timothy mentions, is to inspect the merchandise before the bidding if at all possible and get a quote for the shipping. If you can't attend, don't bid too much and ask plenty of questions and for photos. If you don't get satisfactory answwers, don't bid. The good acution houses will accomodate your questions. If I did not take the chance to bid on many of the overseas items sight unseen, I wouldn't have some great items in my collection. So, you have to way the costs and benefits. Just my two cents. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
yikes. while i appreciate your frustration, a few tips: ---if at all possible, you do want to rely on shipping organized by an auction house. this is typically subcontracted to bonded art shippers (i.e., expensive shippers) or the buyer is provided a list of such bonded shippers from which to choose. ---if the value of a purchased lot is predicated and the length of the specimen (e.g., shark's tooth), and the measurement is significantly off (and i assure you it's not bonhams which has made the error but a misrepresentation on the part of the consignor), you have every right to return the specimen as being falsely represented. in some instances, you may even be able to negotiate a better deal. --finally, (and sometimes i have trouble remembering this one) only bid an amount at which you will be delighted if your bid is successful---even if your success was achieved by your paying the full amount of your absentee bid. all best to my friends in meteorites dp On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:11 AM, mckinney trammell wrote: avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
Hi all I just emailed them about two photos that were incorrect (Ness County and Barwell). Both have been taken down. Hopefully they will put up the correct pictures soon. I also wish they would just use the correct approved names for the meteorites. Mike Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yikes. while i appreciate your frustration, a few tips: ---if at all possible, you do want to rely on shipping organized by an auction house. this is typically subcontracted to bonded art shippers (i.e., expensive shippers) or the buyer is provided a list of such bonded shippers from which to choose. ---if the value of a purchased lot is predicated and the length of the specimen (e.g., shark's tooth), and the measurement is significantly off (and i assure you it's not bonhams which has made the error but a misrepresentation on the part of the consignor), you have every right to return the specimen as being falsely represented. in some instances, you may even be able to negotiate a better deal. --finally, (and sometimes i have trouble remembering this one) only bid an amount at which you will be delighted if your bid is successful---even if your success was achieved by your paying the full amount of your absentee bid. all best to my friends in meteorites dp On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:11 AM, mckinney trammell wrote: avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
I have bid on a number of items at the last Bonham auction, and everything went extremely well. I won 2 items with the opening bid, way below the maximum that I had bid online, and I won one other item while on the phone with them, bidding live. Shipping was handled via a shipping agent that Bonham had recommended. Within a day of the auction they picked my items up at the Bonham office, packed it up and shipped it with FedEx overnight. It cost a few hundred bucks, but for all that it seemed reasonable. That was my experience anyways. I am looking forward to the coming auction - looks like they have some good stuff lined up again. All the best...,... -- Patrick www.pallasite.ca -- Original Message --- From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite Mailing List meteorite- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. avoid like plague! i did on of those absentee bids and they shilled me right up to the penny. further more, the shipping was EXTREME price AND... when i got the items (shark teeth) they were SHORT!!! theyb LIED about the length!!! i f you can't be there, you are setting yourself up for dissaster !!! --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ ___ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- End of Original Message --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction at Bonhams on April 30 in New York.
This may be just a wild guess, but maybe Bonhams has the auction listed on their website since it is less than a month away. --- Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know if any other meteorites are being offered? Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorite - http://www.meteorman.org/ Go to Google News Rare meteorite goes under hammer 10 hours ago A meteorite is expected to fetch £500,000 at auction in New York this month. Weighing more than 925lbs, the object was discovered eight years ago in China's Xinjiang Uygar province. Its rare olivine crystals endured atmospheric and impact forces as it crashed down to Earth. Bonhams' Natural History Department director Thomas Lindgren said: Less than 1% of all meteorites are pallasites, the most alluring of all meteorites due to their aesthetic appeal. Pallasites - meteorites composed of around 50% olivine and peridot crystals and 50% nickel-iron - are thought to be relics of forming planets. The Fukang meteorite will go under the hammer at Bonhams on April 30 in New York. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
