Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color

2012-09-06 Thread Jeff Kuyken
I agree with Dolores too and you would really need to see the pieces in
person. Some of you might recall how stones from some fresh falls can have
part of the stone with a shiny browner coloured crust. Oum Dreyga was one
that had quite a few stones like that and I think Bassikounou too. It has
been discussed on the list in the past. Also, if you look around the edge of
the stone Sonny pictured, you will see it appears black in those areas. 

Cheers,

Jeff

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of D. Hill
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2012 6:14 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color


I agree with Adam.  I, too, have noticed that images of some meteorites, 
including fresh falls, may appear black or brownish depending on the 
lighting conditions (type, white balance, flash/no flash, angle) and 
camera exposure... even though they may look black to the naked eye.  I 
think all would agree it is best to see meteorites in person.

-Dolores Hill

On 9/5/2012 12:51 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
 I have not seen any of this material first-hand but I was thinking the
same thing when I saw Bob Verish's images.  Perhaps it rained in Northern
Nevada or many times fresh falls take on a brownish hue.  If the miner's
stone was found within a few hours of the fall, then I would think the
stones have a natural brownish hue or it could be the white balance is off
on the digital camera.


 Happy hunting,

 Adam




 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Tettenbornt...@rogers.com
 To: wahlpe...@aol.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field
conditions / etc.

 I had the exact same impression.  This one looks like a somewhat weathered
NWA.

 Could be the lighting.

 But, Adam Hupe reported multiple finds so far so this could be legit.

 tett


 Mike Tettenborn
 Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
 t...@rogers.com



 On 2012-09-05, at 2:49 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have posted a few pictures of the strewnfield and a large chondrite on
my website.A couple of the roads in the  area will be posted with No
trespassing signs later this week. The reason is for mine safety
regulations.The project supervisor was very nice and explained the biggest
concern is safety.If anything was to happen on the mining clam, the site
would be shut down.

 Thanks,
 Sonny


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Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color

2012-09-06 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com

The color differences are due to variations in the magnetite contents in the
crusts of opposite sides. These, in turn, are controlled by the supply of
atmospheric oxygen and the temperature of the oxidation process. A temporary
high vacuum on a trailing side, for example, reduces or blocks the supply of
atmospheric oxygen to the reaction.

If you scroll down the page you will see a good example of fusion crust color
variation on a Buzzard Coulee specimen:

http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteorite_fusion_crust_2.htm

Cheers

Svend

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Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au hat am 6. September 2012 um 11:20
geschrieben:

 I agree with Dolores too and you would really need to see the pieces in
 person. Some of you might recall how stones from some fresh falls can have
 part of the stone with a shiny browner coloured crust. Oum Dreyga was one
 that had quite a few stones like that and I think Bassikounou too. It has
 been discussed on the list in the past. Also, if you look around the edge of
 the stone Sonny pictured, you will see it appears black in those areas.

 Cheers,

 Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of D. Hill
 Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2012 6:14 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color


 I agree with Adam.  I, too, have noticed that images of some meteorites,
 including fresh falls, may appear black or brownish depending on the
 lighting conditions (type, white balance, flash/no flash, angle) and
 camera exposure... even though they may look black to the naked eye.  I
 think all would agree it is best to see meteorites in person.

 -Dolores Hill

 On 9/5/2012 12:51 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
  I have not seen any of this material first-hand but I was thinking the
 same thing when I saw Bob Verish's images.  Perhaps it rained in Northern
 Nevada or many times fresh falls take on a brownish hue.  If the miner's
 stone was found within a few hours of the fall, then I would think the
 stones have a natural brownish hue or it could be the white balance is off
 on the digital camera.
 
 
  Happy hunting,
 
  Adam
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Tettenbornt...@rogers.com
  To: wahlpe...@aol.com
  Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field
 conditions / etc.
 
  I had the exact same impression.  This one looks like a somewhat weathered
 NWA.
 
  Could be the lighting.
 
  But, Adam Hupe reported multiple finds so far so this could be legit.
 
  tett
 
 
  Mike Tettenborn
  Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
  t...@rogers.com
 
 
 
  On 2012-09-05, at 2:49 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  I have posted a few pictures of the strewnfield and a large chondrite on
 my website.A couple of the roads in the  area will be posted with No
 trespassing signs later this week. The reason is for mine safety
 regulations.The project supervisor was very nice and explained the biggest
 concern is safety.If anything was to happen on the mining clam, the site
 would be shut down.
 
  Thanks,
  Sonny
 
 
  http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Battle_Mt.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color

2012-09-06 Thread Jim Wooddell
I think the color is close, based on the hand holding it.  And it has been 
secured by a trusted expert!
Jim


Jim Wooddell - Mobile

Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote:

I agree with Dolores too and you would really need to see the pieces in
person. Some of you might recall how stones from some fresh falls can have
part of the stone with a shiny browner coloured crust. Oum Dreyga was one
that had quite a few stones like that and I think Bassikounou too. It has
been discussed on the list in the past. Also, if you look around the edge of
the stone Sonny pictured, you will see it appears black in those areas. 

Cheers,

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of D. Hill
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2012 6:14 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color


I agree with Adam.  I, too, have noticed that images of some meteorites, 
including fresh falls, may appear black or brownish depending on the 
lighting conditions (type, white balance, flash/no flash, angle) and 
camera exposure... even though they may look black to the naked eye.  I 
think all would agree it is best to see meteorites in person.

-Dolores Hill

On 9/5/2012 12:51 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
 I have not seen any of this material first-hand but I was thinking the
same thing when I saw Bob Verish's images.  Perhaps it rained in Northern
Nevada or many times fresh falls take on a brownish hue.  If the miner's
stone was found within a few hours of the fall, then I would think the
stones have a natural brownish hue or it could be the white balance is off
on the digital camera.


 Happy hunting,

 Adam




 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Tettenbornt...@rogers.com
 To: wahlpe...@aol.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field
conditions / etc.

 I had the exact same impression.  This one looks like a somewhat weathered
NWA.

 Could be the lighting.

 But, Adam Hupe reported multiple finds so far so this could be legit.

 tett


 Mike Tettenborn
 Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
 t...@rogers.com



 On 2012-09-05, at 2:49 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have posted a few pictures of the strewnfield and a large chondrite on
my website.A couple of the roads in the  area will be posted with No
trespassing signs later this week. The reason is for mine safety
regulations.The project supervisor was very nice and explained the biggest
concern is safety.If anything was to happen on the mining clam, the site
would be shut down.

 Thanks,
 Sonny


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Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color

2012-09-05 Thread D. Hill


I agree with Adam.  I, too, have noticed that images of some meteorites, 
including fresh falls, may appear black or brownish depending on the 
lighting conditions (type, white balance, flash/no flash, angle) and 
camera exposure... even though they may look black to the naked eye.  I 
think all would agree it is best to see meteorites in person.


-Dolores Hill

On 9/5/2012 12:51 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:

I have not seen any of this material first-hand but I was thinking the same 
thing when I saw Bob Verish's images.  Perhaps it rained in Northern Nevada or 
many times fresh falls take on a brownish hue.  If the miner's stone was found 
within a few hours of the fall, then I would think the stones have a natural 
brownish hue or it could be the white balance is off on the digital camera.


Happy hunting,

Adam




- Original Message -
From: Mike Tettenbornt...@rogers.com
To: wahlpe...@aol.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field 
conditions / etc.

I had the exact same impression.  This one looks like a somewhat weathered NWA.

Could be the lighting.

But, Adam Hupe reported multiple finds so far so this could be legit.

tett


Mike Tettenborn
Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
t...@rogers.com



On 2012-09-05, at 2:49 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:


Hi All,

I have posted a few pictures of the strewnfield and a large chondrite on my 
website.A couple of the roads in the  area will be posted with No trespassing 
signs later this week. The reason is for mine safety regulations.The project 
supervisor was very nice and explained the biggest concern is safety.If 
anything was to happen on the mining clam, the site would be shut down.

Thanks,
Sonny


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Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain color

2012-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Guys, this is one of the most beautiful stones out there. The reddish tint is 
rare but has been seen on many pristine falls before. Berduc and Bensour and 
others have a very red tint on select pieces. 
Relax, news is coming from the owner et al.
Michael Farmer 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 5, 2012, at 1:14 PM, D. Hill dh...@lpl.arizona.edu wrote:

 
 I agree with Adam.  I, too, have noticed that images of some meteorites, 
 including fresh falls, may appear black or brownish depending on the lighting 
 conditions (type, white balance, flash/no flash, angle) and camera 
 exposure... even though they may look black to the naked eye.  I think all 
 would agree it is best to see meteorites in person.
 
 -Dolores Hill
 
 On 9/5/2012 12:51 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
 I have not seen any of this material first-hand but I was thinking the same 
 thing when I saw Bob Verish's images.  Perhaps it rained in Northern Nevada 
 or many times fresh falls take on a brownish hue.  If the miner's stone was 
 found within a few hours of the fall, then I would think the stones have a 
 natural brownish hue or it could be the white balance is off on the digital 
 camera.
 
 
 Happy hunting,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Tettenbornt...@rogers.com
 To: wahlpe...@aol.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field 
 conditions / etc.
 
 I had the exact same impression.  This one looks like a somewhat weathered 
 NWA.
 
 Could be the lighting.
 
 But, Adam Hupe reported multiple finds so far so this could be legit.
 
 tett
 
 
 Mike Tettenborn
 Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
 t...@rogers.com
 
 
 
 On 2012-09-05, at 2:49 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have posted a few pictures of the strewnfield and a large chondrite on my 
 website.A couple of the roads in the  area will be posted with No 
 trespassing signs later this week. The reason is for mine safety 
 regulations.The project supervisor was very nice and explained the biggest 
 concern is safety.If anything was to happen on the mining clam, the site 
 would be shut down.
 
 Thanks,
 Sonny
 
 
 http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Battle_Mt.html
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