[meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite meteorite with diamonds.'
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite' look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating, remember this?
http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm

Follow-up:
http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and another
general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: I know it's
real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure you
that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth rocks
and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that in
well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around some
fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members!  Anyone
reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
 meteorite with diamonds.'

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
 (see question at bottom also, the 'professional
 geologist' info is found 
 on his 'me' page)
 
 Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
 look like ordinary 
 hematite to anyone else?
 
 As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating,
 remember this?

http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
 
 Follow-up:

http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
 
 Continuously amazed,
 Ken Newton
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay viewer so here are 
three urls.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no blacks, rust,
 hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for the interest.

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at the red interior of 
the photos.
Best,
Ken
 

Norm Lehrman wrote:

Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and another
general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: I know it's
real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure you
that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth rocks
and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that in
well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around some
fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members!  Anyone
reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
  

(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating,
remember this?



http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
  

Follow-up:



http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
  

Continuously amazed,
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Norm and others,
 Thanks for your reply.
 The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
 viewer so here are 
 three urls.
 http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
 http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
 http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
 
 I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
 No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
 now per your request.
 The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
 blacks, rust,
  hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
 the interest.
 
 Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
 the red interior of 
 the photos.
 Best,
 Ken
  
 
 Norm Lehrman wrote:
 
 Ken and all,
 
 How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
 another
 general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
 stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
 ripped off.
 
 My bristles go up everytime someone says: I know
 it's
 real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---
 
 As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
 college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
 you
 that most geology curricula do not include ANY
 significant training or information regarding
 meteorites, much less, their identification.
 
 It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
 rocks
 and are in a generally advantageous position to
 recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
 it, but I have described to this list before that
 in
 well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
 some
 fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
 
 Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
 professional geologists and geological academicians
 know less about meteorites than list members! 
 Anyone
 reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
 information on this list than any geologist gets in
 multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
 course of study specifically involving meteorites!
 
 Cheers,
 Norm
 (http://tektitesource.com)
 
 --- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 Hi,
 Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
 meteorite with diamonds.'
 
 
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
   
 
 (see question at bottom also, the 'professional
 geologist' info is found 
 on his 'me' page)
 
 Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
 look like ordinary 
 hematite to anyone else?
 
 As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating,
 remember this?
 
 
 

http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
   
 
 Follow-up:
 
 
 

http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
   
 
 Continuously amazed,
 Ken Newton
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Norm and List,
Wow! Yes, I think it is also visible here:
http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e9f3_3.JPG

Best,

Ken
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(neat eagle cam - video2)





Norm Lehrman wrote:

Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
viewer so here are 
three urls.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
blacks, rust,
 hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
the interest.

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
the red interior of 
the photos.
Best,
Ken
 

Norm Lehrman wrote:



Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
  

another


general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: I know
  

it's


real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
  

you


that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
  

rocks


and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that
  

in


well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
  

some


fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members! 
  

Anyone


reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  

Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'

   



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355


 

  

(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating,
remember this?

   



http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm


 

  

Follow-up:

   



http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm


 

  

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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Joe
Hello all,
  This piece would make a good addition to my meteorwrong gallery. I am going 
to bid on it so I can add it to my meteorwrong collection. Maybe soon you will 
see it HERE. 
Thanks,
Joe Kerchner
illinoismeteorites.com

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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:55:12 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS 
HOBBY WITH EBAY

Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite meteorite with diamonds.'
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite' look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating, remember this?
http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm

Follow-up:
http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear List;
I proclaim to be of a wood collectors ilk.   I have been tutored by 
Walter Wright, world renown paleo botanist from CA.
This is wood, probably from So. Utah if I had a guess, possibly Henry 
Mountains location, Steve Hatch  or Walt W. could verify better.  I have 
some in my back yard.
This is not a palm wood. It lacks a few things, one being highly visible 
vascular cell bundles.   It is probably a jurassic/triassic in age.
There is no preserved cell structure it appears. This is caused by a 
cryptocrystaline replacement that didn't preserve the cell structure and 
that is common in Utah wood, and much of Wyoming wood.
Nice rock, about 25 cents to a buck a pound depending on what you want 
to do with it.

Best,
Dave Freeman
See my ebay guides on petrified wood of Wyoming
under user ID mjwy

ken newton wrote:


Norm and List,
Wow! Yes, I think it is also visible here:
http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e9f3_3.JPG

Best,

Ken
http://www.briloon.org/ed/eagle/index.htm
(neat eagle cam - video2)





Norm Lehrman wrote:

 


Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



   


Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
viewer so here are 
three urls.

http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
blacks, rust,
hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
the interest.

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
the red interior of 
the photos.

Best,
Ken


Norm Lehrman wrote:

  

 


Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and


   


another
  

 


general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: I know


   


it's
  

 


real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure


   


you
  

 


that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth


   


rocks
  

 


and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that


   


in
  

 


well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around


   


some
  

 


fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members! 


   


Anyone
  

 


reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





   


Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'

 

  

 


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300094532355
  

 



   


(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)


Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?


As far as the obvious entry FUSION coating,
remember this?

 

  

 


http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
  

 



   


Follow-up:

 

  

 


http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
  

 



   


Continuously amazed,
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