Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
I agree with Steve Bernd! I must say that I also agree with Bernd regarding NWA 5507. It's definitely one of my favourite Type-3 chondrites. Just spectacular! http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/meteorite.aspx?id=49207 http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/january2010.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites,please ? Steve wrote: Second! Bernd: Third! :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals, a greyish groundmass + numerous tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and so much more! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Hello all, I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy: meteorites. Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article up. However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not interested. So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Cheers Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I Agree Greg S. From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Hello all, I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy: meteorites. Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article up. However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not interested. So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Cheers Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Second! Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: dak_...@live.concordia.ca, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 2:20 PM I Agree Greg S. From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Hello all, I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy: meteorites. Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article up. However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not interested. So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Cheers Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the conversation? Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@ :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{) --- Seriously, lighten up, Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Steve wrote: Second! Bernd: Third! :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and much more! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Finally the voice of reason! The volume of OT subjects on this METEORITE mailing list is the VERY reason I check the archives instead of receiving emails. A meteorite could have crashed through the White House and not generated the volume of emails this OT subject has generated over the last few days. Jim Hello all, I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy: meteorites. Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article up. However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not interested. So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Cheers Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Steve wrote: Second! Bernd: Third! :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals, a greyish groundmass + numerous tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and so much more! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Oops, sorry for the double post! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Bernd/All, Does anyone know any more about the classification of NWA 6260 which is provisionally LL7 metachondrite...Has that been confirmed yet...Met Bulletin still says Unknown? Cheers, Graham, UK On 18 October 2010 21:19, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Oops, sorry for the double post! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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List: Last year I purchased a meteorite at a rock and mineral show a because it just looked a little different from most chondrites I have seen. The seller did not know where it was found so I got the provisional name NOVA 010. The exterior almost looked like an Iron or a Stony-Iron and it contained a lot of metal. The metal also looked a little different - more globular then most H-chondrites I've seen. I thought it might be a CH or an EH chondrite. Well I got it classified and it turned out to be a reduced H4 with numbers very similar to the Burnwell fall in KY., although it's even more reduced. NOVA 010 W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 (n=11) Now here's Burnwell W0(fall) S3, olivine Fa 15.8 ±0.2 (n=79); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.4 ±0.7, Wo0.7 ±0.2 (n=98) So you never know what you have until it gets classified. Greg S. From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the conversation? Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@ :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{) --- Seriously, lighten up, Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I fourth, or whatever the correct term would be. I move for the motion to be carried by acclamation. No more grousing . . . oops, I meant to say dowsing. Fred Bieler Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com 800.422.7876 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:06 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Steve wrote: Second! Bernd: Third! :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and much more! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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List, Could someone explain the meaning of the numbers in parenthesis? (n=7) and (n=11) is the analysis below? Thanks in advance. Mike Fowler NOVA 010 W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 (n=11) List: Last year I purchased a meteorite at a rock and mineral show a because it just looked a little different from most chondrites I have seen. The seller did not know where it was found so I got the provisional name NOVA 010. The exterior almost looked like an Iron or a Stony-Iron and it contained a lot of metal. The metal also looked a little different - more globular then most H-chondrites I've seen. I thought it might be a CH or an EH chondrite. Well I got it classified and it turned out to be a reduced H4 with numbers very similar to the Burnwell fall in KY., although it's even more reduced. NOVA 010 W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 (n=11) Now here's Burnwell W0(fall) S3, olivine Fa 15.8 ±0.2 (n=79); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.4 ±0.7, Wo0.7 ±0.2 (n=98) So you never know what you have until it gets classified. Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Really Phil ? Whining like a little school-girl ? I thought Andre's email was well written and to the point. I didn't see a bit of whining. This nonsense about dowsing rods is getting really old. Best regards, Charley Butterfield Message: 15 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 764966a8adcd4a509838d10dac08a...@et Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the conversation? Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@ :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{) --- Seriously, lighten up, Phil Whitmer Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 + From: DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN dak_...@live.concordia.ca Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: d468cf74020a384cac972cdde8de859615ce5...@bl2prd0103mb074.prod.exchangelabs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy: meteorites. Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article up. However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not interested. So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? Cheers Andre Message: 15 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 764966a8adcd4a509838d10dac08a...@et Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the conversation? Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@ :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{) --- Seriously, lighten up, Phil Whitmer -- Message: 16 Date: 18 Oct 2010 20:05:44 UT From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: diie.00245...@paulinet.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Steve wrote: Second! Bernd: Third! :-)) I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features: - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites - finely disseminated troilite - troilite-rimmed chondrules - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules - and much more! Best wishes, Bernd -- Message: 17 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:21:43 + (UTC) From: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 603118548.498703.1287433303358.javamail.r...@sz0057a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Finally the voice of reason! The volume of OT subjects on this METEORITE mailing list is the VERY reason I check the archives instead of receiving emails. A meteorite could have crashed through the White House and not generated the volume of emails this OT subject has generated over the last few days. Jim Hello all
Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Fisher~Gold Bug-2 Darn good metal dowsing unit...Batteries not included! :-) Best Regards, Greg Hupe On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Charley cm...@columbus.rr.com wrote: __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list