Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-19 Thread Jeff Kuyken

I agree with Steve  Bernd!

I must say that I also agree with Bernd regarding NWA 5507. It's definitely 
one of my favourite Type-3 chondrites. Just spectacular!


http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/meteorite.aspx?id=49207
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/january2010.html

Cheers,

Jeff

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:17 AM
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meteorites,please ?




Steve wrote: Second!

Bernd: Third!  :-))

I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my
NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's
NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features:

- clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent,
  light-green hypersthene crystals, a greyish groundmass + numerous tiny 
chromites

- finely disseminated troilite
- troilite-rimmed chondrules
- complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules
- and so much more!

Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Hello all,

I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to 
lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly 
enjoy: meteorites.

Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article 
in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything 
else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain 
essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article 
up.

However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from 
this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic 
problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will 
ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as 
they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other 
contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, 
gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your 
business; I'm just not interested.

So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

Cheers

Andre
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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Thunder Stone

I Agree

Greg S.


 From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 +
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, 
 please ?

 Hello all,

 I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to 
 lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly 
 enjoy: meteorites.

 Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article 
 in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for 
 anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article 
 would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily 
 look the article up.

 However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from 
 this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic 
 problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will 
 ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, 
 as they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever 
 other contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find 
 meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! 
 That is your business; I'm just not interested.

 So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

 Cheers

 Andre
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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Steve Witt
Second!


Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/


--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, 
 please ?
 To: dak_...@live.concordia.ca, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 2:20 PM
 
 I Agree
 
 Greg S.
 
 
  From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca
  To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 +
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the
 science of meteorites, please ?
 
  Hello all,
 
  I usually stay away from these protracted discussions
 and am quite happy to lurk on the list. A lot of good,
 qualified people discussing a topic I truly enjoy:
 meteorites.
 
  Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I
 just published an article in the Montreal Gazette debunking
 UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything else in the
 ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would
 remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views
 can readily look the article up.
 
  However, my computer has recently been invaded by an
 avalanche of emails from this list that has *nothing* to do
 with meteorites or science. The basic problem is that
 pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will
 ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother;
 ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in
 dowsing, divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel
 free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites,
 gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it
 ! That is your business; I'm just not interested.
 
  So, could we get back to the science of meteorites,
 please ?
 
  Cheers
 
  Andre
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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being 
able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome 
meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the 
conversation?  Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@ 
:() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{)


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Seriously, lighten up,

Phil Whitmer 


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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread bernd . pauli
Steve wrote: Second!

Bernd: Third!  :-))

I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my
NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's
NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features:

- clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green
  hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites
- finely disseminated troilite
- troilite-rimmed chondrules
- complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules
- and much more!

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Jim Strope
Finally the voice of reason!  

The volume of OT subjects on this METEORITE mailing list is the VERY reason 
I check the archives instead of receiving emails.  

A meteorite could have crashed through the White House and not generated the 
volume of emails this OT subject has generated over the last few days.

Jim



Hello all, 

I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy to 
lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I truly 
enjoy: meteorites. 

Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an article 
in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS for anything 
else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my article would remain 
essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views can readily look the article 
up. 

However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails from 
this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The basic 
problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of science will 
ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother; ignorance is bliss, as 
they say. So those who believe in dowsing, divining rods and whatever other 
contraption, feel free to search with them. Think you can find meteorites, 
gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your 
business; I'm just not interested. 

So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ? 

Cheers 

Andre 
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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread bernd . pauli
Steve wrote: Second!

Bernd: Third!  :-))

I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my
NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's
NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features:

- clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent,
   light-green hypersthene crystals, a greyish groundmass + numerous tiny 
chromites
- finely disseminated troilite
- troilite-rimmed chondrules
- complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules
- and so much more!

Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread bernd . pauli
Oops, sorry for the double post!

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi Bernd/All,

Does anyone know any more about the classification of NWA 6260 which
is provisionally LL7
metachondrite...Has that been confirmed yet...Met Bulletin still says Unknown?

Cheers,

Graham, UK

On 18 October 2010 21:19,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Oops, sorry for the double post!

 Best wishes,

 Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Thunder Stone

List:

Last year I purchased a meteorite at a rock and mineral show a because it just 
looked a little different from most chondrites I have seen.  The seller did not 
know where it was found so I got the provisional name NOVA 010.  The exterior 
almost looked like an Iron or a Stony-Iron and it contained a lot of metal.  
The metal also looked a little different - more globular then most H-chondrites 
I've seen.  I thought it might be a CH or an EH chondrite.  Well I got it 
classified and it turned out to be a reduced H4 with numbers very similar to 
the Burnwell fall in KY., although it's even more reduced.

NOVA 010

W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 
(n=11)


Now here's Burnwell

W0(fall) S3, olivine Fa 15.8 ±0.2 (n=79); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.4 ±0.7, Wo0.7 
±0.2 (n=98)

So you never know what you have until it gets classified.

Greg S.


 From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, 
 please ?

 I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not being
 able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome
 meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the
 conversation? Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@
 :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{)

 ---
 Seriously, lighten up,

 Phil Whitmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Fred Bieler
I fourth, or whatever the correct term would be. I move for the motion to
be carried by acclamation. No more grousing . . . oops, I meant to say
dowsing.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites,
please ?

Steve wrote: Second!

Bernd: Third!  :-))

I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my
NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's
NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features:

- clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green
  hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites
- finely disseminated troilite
- troilite-rimmed chondrules
- complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules
- and much more!

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Michael Fowler
List,

Could someone explain the meaning of the numbers in parenthesis?  (n=7) and 
(n=11) is the analysis below?

Thanks in advance.

Mike Fowler


 NOVA 010 
 
 W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 
 (n=11) 



 List: 
 
 Last year I purchased a meteorite at a rock and mineral show a because it 
 just looked a little different from most chondrites I have seen.  The seller 
 did not know where it was found so I got the provisional name NOVA 010.  The 
 exterior almost looked like an Iron or a Stony-Iron and it contained a lot of 
 metal.  The metal also looked a little different - more globular then most 
 H-chondrites I've seen.  I thought it might be a CH or an EH chondrite.  Well 
 I got it classified and it turned out to be a reduced H4 with numbers very 
 similar to the Burnwell fall in KY., although it's even more reduced. 
 
 NOVA 010 
 
 W2 S3, olivine Fa 14.4 ±0.5 (n=7); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.7 ±0.6, Wo0.6 ±0.3 
 (n=11) 
 
 
 Now here's Burnwell 
 
 W0(fall) S3, olivine Fa 15.8 ±0.2 (n=79); low-Ca pyroxene Fs13.4 ±0.7, Wo0.7 
 ±0.2 (n=98) 
 
 So you never know what you have until it gets classified. 
 
 Greg S. 
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[meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Charley
Really Phil ?

Whining like a little school-girl ?

I thought Andre's email was well written and to the point. I didn't see a 
bit of whining.

This nonsense about dowsing rods is getting really old.

Best regards,

Charley Butterfield



 Message: 15
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400
 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of
 meteorites, please ?
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: 764966a8adcd4a509838d10dac08a...@et
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
 reply-type=original

 I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not
 being
 able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome
 meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the
 conversation?  Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@
 :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{)

 ---
 Seriously, lighten up,

 Phil Whitmer

 Message: 6
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:07:21 +
 From: DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN dak_...@live.concordia.ca
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of
 meteorites, please ?
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 d468cf74020a384cac972cdde8de859615ce5...@bl2prd0103mb074.prod.exchangelabs.com

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hello all,

 I usually stay away from these protracted discussions and am quite happy
 to lurk on the list. A lot of good, qualified people discussing a topic I
 truly enjoy: meteorites.

 Now, I am not interested in sparring with anyone. I just published an
 article in the Montreal Gazette debunking UFOs; you could substitute UFOS
 for anything else in the ever widening field of pseudoscience and my
 article would remain essentially the same. So anyone eager for my views
 can readily look the article up.

 However, my computer has recently been invaded by an avalanche of emails
 from this list that has *nothing* to do with meteorites or science. The
 basic problem is that pseudoscience is like a religion; no amount of
 science will ever convince its proponents. So I usually don't bother;
 ignorance is bliss, as they say. So those who believe in dowsing,
 divining rods and whatever other contraption, feel free to search with
 them. Think you can find meteorites, gold, diamonds, water, Jimmy Hoffa
 with a stick ? Go for it ! That is your business; I'm just not
 interested.

 So, could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

 Cheers

 Andre

 Message: 15
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:09:52 -0400
 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of
 meteorites, please ?
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: 764966a8adcd4a509838d10dac08a...@et
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
 reply-type=original

 I have an idea, instead of whining like a little school-girl about not
 being
 able to control the speech of others, why not just start an awesome
 meteorite related thread that is so interesting it totally dominates the
 conversation?  Ever think of that? Or is it just more fun to whine? ;) :@
 :() hey look, it's an emoticon with a mustache :{)

 ---
 Seriously, lighten up,

 Phil Whitmer



 --

 Message: 16
 Date: 18 Oct 2010 20:05:44 UT
 From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of
 meteorites, please ?
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: diie.00245...@paulinet.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Steve wrote: Second!

 Bernd: Third!  :-))

 I've been spending an enjoyable evening at the microscope ogling my
 NWA 5507 slice (16.39 gr - see Encyclopedia if interested). Marcin's
 NWA 5507 is an interesting L3.2 with lots of spectacular features:

 - clasts (or PP chondrules?) with abundant translucent, light-green
  hypersthene crystals in a grayish groundmass + tiny chromites
 - finely disseminated troilite
 - troilite-rimmed chondrules
 - complex BO-Pyroxene chondrules
 - and much more!

 Best wishes,

 Bernd



 --

 Message: 17
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:21:43 + (UTC)
 From: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of
 meteorites, please ?
 To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 603118548.498703.1287433303358.javamail.r...@sz0057a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 Finally the voice of reason!

 The volume of OT subjects on this METEORITE mailing list is the VERY
 reason I check the archives instead of receiving emails.

 A meteorite could have crashed through the White House and not generated
 the volume of emails this OT subject has generated over the last few
 days.

 Jim



 Hello all

Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?

2010-10-18 Thread Greg Hupe
Fisher~Gold Bug-2 Darn good metal dowsing unit...Batteries not  
included! :-)


Best Regards,
Greg Hupe

On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Charley cm...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

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