Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Laura, That is the first I hear of this! And I was in Tucson 3 weeks in the Innsuites so not all that far from the Pima College. How did you find out about it? And Michael, To second what Mike Farmer said, yes I was there 3 weeks but I would not have had time for those lectures (even if I had known about them). Also after doing that show for some 15 years, it seems that visitors fall in 2 categories: either highly knowledgeable collectors who know exactly what they want and who came to the Show with a mental list of dealers to see and pieces to look for. Or visitors who happen to wander in my room out of curiosity and who know nothing about meteorites. Very few in-betweens. The first kind would probably not need those presentations, the second kind? maybe, but how would they hear about it? online? on Facebook??? I am sorry but I do not have an answer. Anne Black IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Laura Atkins via Meteorite-list To: AL Mitorling ; meteorite list Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2019 12:37 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? Hello All, There was an educational series of lectures during the last Tucson show in in the evenings held one of the rooms at the Pima Community College with 2 guests speaking per evening. There were both attendees and online live feeds available for an entrance and viewing fee. These included lectures on minerals, fossils and also meteorites. I watched 5 nights during the show from a FB live feed. This was held by Tucson Gem Shows Educational Lecture Series. Proceeds go towards establishing a scholarship for a local Tucson geology student (or students) attending PCC. Laura Atkins I.M.C.A. #4542 From: Meteorite-list on behalf of "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Reply-To: AL Mitorling Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 9:38 AM To: "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? Hi Michael, I think your idea has merit but Doug points out some good points. What I would suggest if you were able to arrange this, first, I'd have presentations and talks more during the evenings after dinner time. Second, if you were to have a list of topics that were going to be addressed along with a time line, well ahead of the Tucson Show, so people could attend areas they were interested in. Maybe post the topics a week ahead of time before the show and post them again just before and during the show, I think you would get a steady group of people that would attend. Things like this cost money, but a fee to cover and off set costs would be fine as long as it wasn't too much or you would loose people. Perhaps a fee for each talk people want to attend. You might also offer some refreshments for a modest fee to off set the costs. I'd see if you couldn't get a hotel to donate a room for the talks. This could be all or part of the cost of the meeting room. I wouldn't appreciate dealers making an info commercial but if they gave solid science type of program, then fine. I have organized sizable conventions before (over 300 attendees) and it can be a lot of work but there is a lot of great scientist that are in the area or attend and I am sure that some of them would be glad to offer informative talks for the troops during the show. Good luck and hope you are able to succeed! Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:22 PM Michael Doran via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi Doug, Thanks! Yes that does help. You make some excellent points here. Although the Tucson Show lasts a couple weeks, I imagine many/most attendees are there for a much shorter period and like you say, their time is at a premium. -- Michael Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 5:04:10 PM CDT, MexicoDoug wrote: " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts." Hi Michael, Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun or interesting, IMO. We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite!
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Hello All, There was an educational series of lectures during the last Tucson show in in the evenings held one of the rooms at the Pima Community College with 2 guests speaking per evening. There were both attendees and online live feeds available for an entrance and viewing fee. These included lectures on minerals, fossils and also meteorites. I watched 5 nights during the show from a FB live feed. This was held by Tucson Gem Shows Educational Lecture Series. Proceeds go towards establishing a scholarship for a local Tucson geology student (or students) attending PCC. Laura Atkins I.M.C.A. #4542 From: Meteorite-list on behalf of "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Reply-To: AL Mitorling Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 9:38 AM To: "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? Hi Michael, I think your idea has merit but Doug points out some good points. What I would suggest if you were able to arrange this, first, I'd have presentations and talks more during the evenings after dinner time. Second, if you were to have a list of topics that were going to be addressed along with a time line, well ahead of the Tucson Show, so people could attend areas they were interested in. Maybe post the topics a week ahead of time before the show and post them again just before and during the show, I think you would get a steady group of people that would attend. Things like this cost money, but a fee to cover and off set costs would be fine as long as it wasn't too much or you would loose people. Perhaps a fee for each talk people want to attend. You might also offer some refreshments for a modest fee to off set the costs. I'd see if you couldn't get a hotel to donate a room for the talks. This could be all or part of the cost of the meeting room. I wouldn't appreciate dealers making an info commercial but if they gave solid science type of program, then fine. I have organized sizable conventions before (over 300 attendees) and it can be a lot of work but there is a lot of great scientist that are in the area or attend and I am sure that some of them would be glad to offer informative talks for the troops during the show. Good luck and hope you are able to succeed! Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:22 PM Michael Doran via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi Doug, Thanks! Yes that does help. You make some excellent points here. Although the Tucson Show lasts a couple weeks, I imagine many/most attendees are there for a much shorter period and like you say, their time is at a premium. -- Michael Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 5:04:10 PM CDT, MexicoDoug wrote: " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts." Hi Michael, Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun or interesting, IMO. We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a now defunct magazine, we have a world class online publication Meteorite-Times.com, the list for discussion where everyone chimes in, though Facebook seems to have taken some critical mass from that. By all means, go for it if you would like to be a force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping experience and that's mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. Hope this helps add to your thinking Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the experience of attendin
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Hi Michael, Thank you (and others) for the feedback. I think I'll put this proposal in the category of "Seemed like a good idea in theory, but won't work in practice." I'm really looking forward to meeting you and many other meteorite people next year in Tucson. -- Michael Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 10:16:57 PM CDT, Michael Farmer wrote: The main problem is that the dealers are all tied up. I live in Tucson and the show is a time where I don’t have a spare second for about 5 weeks. I make a large chunk of my yearly income from the Tucson show. It’s a work time for me. Most collectors and buyers come to Tucson with a couple of days. In that time it’s impossible to see the show. The Tucson show itself is massive. Covers venues all over the city tens of miles apart. There just no time to attend such an event during the show. Michael Farmer > On Mar 12, 2019, at 3:04 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed > those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" > from previous attempts." > > Hi Michael, > > Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and > see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to > see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the > Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun > or interesting, IMO. > > We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not > really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold > Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and > it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with > each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited > or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After > all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a now defunct magazine, we > have a world class online publication Meteorite-Times.com, the list for > discussion where everyone chimes in, though Facebook seems to have taken some > critical mass from that. By all means, go for it if you would like to be a > force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is > attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in > Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping > experience and that's mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. > > Hope this helps add to your thinking > Doug > > > -Original Message----- > From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? > > In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly > attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these > conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It > occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the > experience of attending the Tucson Show. > > For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, > there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would > be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would > be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: > > 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should > have one > > 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) > collections > > And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from > people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared > towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in > presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, > classification, and preparation. > > To make this work would require: > > A meeting room > -- > A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that > for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would > need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium > with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. > The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the > presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. > > Organization > > Someone to: > - Put out a call for presenters, and > - Based on response, determine how many time
[meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Michael wrote: " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads.If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts." Doug wrote: Hi Michael, "Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun or interesting, IMO." ... text deleted ... "By all means, go for it if you would like to be a force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping experience and that's mostly why those from out of town make the pilgrimage." A person could schedule such "educational presentations" like "short courses" are scheduled at scientific meetings. Do not schedule for during the meetings, but "premeeting," the day before the Tucson Show starts, and post meeting, the day after the Tuscon Show ends. That way the educational presentations are not competing with the meeting and all people need to do is arrived a day early or leave a day later to attend the presentations. Also, along with educational presentations, there is enough geology around Tuscon that a person could offer geology field trips. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Hi Michael, I think your idea has merit but Doug points out some good points. What I would suggest if you were able to arrange this, first, I'd have presentations and talks more during the evenings after dinner time. Second, if you were to have a list of topics that were going to be addressed along with a time line, well ahead of the Tucson Show, so people could attend areas they were interested in. Maybe post the topics a week ahead of time before the show and post them again just before and during the show, I think you would get a steady group of people that would attend. Things like this cost money, but a fee to cover and off set costs would be fine as long as it wasn't too much or you would loose people. Perhaps a fee for each talk people want to attend. You might also offer some refreshments for a modest fee to off set the costs. I'd see if you couldn't get a hotel to donate a room for the talks. This could be all or part of the cost of the meeting room. I wouldn't appreciate dealers making an info commercial but if they gave solid science type of program, then fine. I have organized sizable conventions before (over 300 attendees) and it can be a lot of work but there is a lot of great scientist that are in the area or attend and I am sure that some of them would be glad to offer informative talks for the troops during the show. Good luck and hope you are able to succeed! Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:22 PM Michael Doran via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Thanks! Yes that does help. You make some excellent points here. > Although the Tucson Show lasts a couple weeks, I imagine many/most > attendees are there for a much shorter period and like you say, their time > is at a premium. > > -- Michael > > Michael Doran > Fort Worth, TX > > > > On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 5:04:10 PM CDT, MexicoDoug > wrote: > > > " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed > those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons > learned" from previous attempts." > > Hi Michael, > > Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and > see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to > see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the > Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be > fun or interesting, IMO. > > We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not > really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the > Gold Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the > community, and it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time > to catch up with each other. What all these things had in common was that > everyone was invited or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real > time commitment. After all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a > now defunct magazine, we have a world class online publication > Meteorite-Times.com, the list for discussion where everyone chimes in, > though Facebook seems to have taken some critical mass from that. By all > means, go for it if you would like to be a force in the community doing > this! Just don't be surprised if the response is attenuated due to all the > competing things going on, after all ... being in Tucson during the show is > a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping experience and that's > mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. > > Hope this helps add to your thinking > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? > > In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly > attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these > conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It > occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the > experience of attending the Tucson Show. > > For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, > there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think > would be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations > I would be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: > > 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you > should have one > > 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) > collections &g
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
The main problem is that the dealers are all tied up. I live in Tucson and the show is a time where I don’t have a spare second for about 5 weeks. I make a large chunk of my yearly income from the Tucson show. It’s a work time for me. Most collectors and buyers come to Tucson with a couple of days. In that time it’s impossible to see the show. The Tucson show itself is massive. Covers venues all over the city tens of miles apart. There just no time to attend such an event during the show. Michael Farmer > On Mar 12, 2019, at 3:04 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed > those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" > from previous attempts." > > Hi Michael, > > Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and > see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to > see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the > Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun > or interesting, IMO. > > We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not > really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold > Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and > it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with > each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited > or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After > all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a now defunct magazine, we > have a world class online publication Meteorite-Times.com, the list for > discussion where everyone chimes in, though Facebook seems to have taken some > critical mass from that. By all means, go for it if you would like to be a > force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is > attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in > Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping > experience and that's mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. > > Hope this helps add to your thinking > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? > > In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly > attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these > conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It > occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the > experience of attending the Tucson Show. > > For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, > there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would > be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would > be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: > > 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should > have one > > 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) > collections > > And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from > people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared > towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in > presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, > classification, and preparation. > > To make this work would require: > > A meeting room > -- > A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that > for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would > need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium > with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. > The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the > presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. > > Organization > > Someone to: > - Put out a call for presenters, and > - Based on response, determine how many time slots were needed, and > - Assign presentations to time slots in schedule and notify presenters, and > - Put out a presentation schedule with titles/abstracts prior to Tucson show > - Prepare meeting room for presentations > - Assist presenters with use of meeting room equipment > > While the organization of this could be done by volunteers (I would be > willing to vo
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
Hi Michael I think your idea has merit but Doug points out some good points. What I would suggest if you were able to arrange this, first, I'd have presentations and talks more during the evenings after dinner time. Second, if you were to have a list of topics that were going to be addressed along with a time line, well ahead of the Tucson Show, so people could attend areas they were interested in. Maybe post the topics a week ahead of time before the show and post them again just before and during the show, I think you would get a steady group of people that would attend. Things like this cost money, but a fee to cover and off set costs would be fine as long as it wasn't too much or you would loose people. Perhaps a fee for each talk people want to attend. You might also offer some refreshments for a modest fee to off set the costs. I'd see if you couldn't get a hotel to donate a room for the talks. This could be all or part of the cost of the meeting room. I wouldn't appreciate dealers making an info commercial but if they gave solid science type of program, then fine. I have organized sizable conventions before (over 300 attendees) and it can be a lot of work but there is a lot of great scientist that are in the area or attend and I am sure that some of them would be glad to offer informative talks for the troops during the show. Good luck and hope you are able to succeed! Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Michael Doran via Meteorite-list : In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the experience of attending the Tucson Show. For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should have one 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) collections And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, classification, and preparation. To make this work would require: A meeting room -- A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. Organization Someone to: - Put out a call for presenters, and - Based on response, determine how many time slots were needed, and - Assign presentations to time slots in schedule and notify presenters, and - Put out a presentation schedule with titles/abstracts prior to Tucson show - Prepare meeting room for presentations - Assist presenters with use of meeting room equipment While the organization of this could be done by volunteers (I would be willing to volunteer my time), reserving a meeting room would incur a cost. Perhaps the IMCA would have funds in their budget to subsidize this and would consider taking this on. Another option would be to charge a nominal registration fee to attend this "seminar" portion of the show. Again, I think this would only last a day or maybe two. If you think this idea has merit, I have some questions for you... As an attendee, what topics in meteoritics and/or meteorite collecting would you be interested in learning about? Would you consider being a presenter? If so, what topic(s) would you consider doing a presentation on? Would you be willing to pay a registration fee to attend a short meteoritics/meteorite collecting seminar during the Tucson show? If you would rather respond directly to me rather than the list, I can compile/summarize those responses for the list. Thank you, -- Michael ps I've spent a fair amount of time going through the Meteorite Central list archive. I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts. Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at
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Hi Doug, Thanks! Yes that does help. You make some excellent points here. Although the Tucson Show lasts a couple weeks, I imagine many/most attendees are there for a much shorter period and like you say, their time is at a premium. -- Michael Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 5:04:10 PM CDT, MexicoDoug wrote: " I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts." Hi Michael, Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun or interesting, IMO. We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a now defunct magazine, we have a world class online publication Meteorite-Times.com, the list for discussion where everyone chimes in, though Facebook seems to have taken some critical mass from that. By all means, go for it if you would like to be a force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping experience and that's mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. Hope this helps add to your thinking Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the experience of attending the Tucson Show. For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should have one 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) collections And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, classification, and preparation. To make this work would require: A meeting room -- A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. Organization Someone to: - Put out a call for presenters, and - Based on response, determine how many time slots were needed, and - Assign presentations to time slots in schedule and notify presenters, and - Put out a presentation schedule with titles/abstracts prior to Tucson show - Prepare meeting room for presentations - Assist presenters with use of meeting room equipment While the organization of this could be done by volunteers (I would be willing to volunteer my time), reserving a meeting room would incur a cost. Perhaps the IMCA would have funds in their budget to subsidize this and would consider taking this on. Another option would be to charge a nominal registration fee to attend this "seminar" portion of the show. Again, I think this would only last a day or maybe two. If you think this idea has merit, I have some questions for you... As an attendee, what topics in meteoritics and/or meteorite collecting would you be interested in learning about? Would you consider being a presenter? If so, what topic(s) would you consider doing a presentation on? Would you be willing to pay a r
Re: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
" I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts." Hi Michael, Time at Tucson is at a premium, and the purpose of it is to get around and see what's there. Tucson is an exciting place and there is just too much to see. While some people may have the luxury of time on their hands, with the Internet at everyone's disposal, you'd have to design things to really be fun or interesting, IMO. We have had events at Tucson before so that is not at all true. Just not really a series of seminars and such. But we had Blood's auction and the Gold Basin Party, IMCA dinner, Parties organized by members of the community, and it is common for groups to get together for dinners for time to catch up with each other. What all these things had in common was that everyone was invited or can do them, they are fun, and they require no real time commitment. After all, we also have/had resources like Meteorite! a now defunct magazine, we have a world class online publication Meteorite-Times.com, the list for discussion where everyone chimes in, though Facebook seems to have taken some critical mass from that. By all means, go for it if you would like to be a force in the community doing this! Just don't be surprised if the response is attenuated due to all the competing things going on, after all ... being in Tucson during the show is a pretty hands on collecting, trading, swapping experience and that's mostly why those from out of toown make the pilgrimage. Hope this helps add to your thinking Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Doran via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson? In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the experience of attending the Tucson Show. For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should have one 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) collections And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, classification, and preparation. To make this work would require: A meeting room -- A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. Organization Someone to: - Put out a call for presenters, and - Based on response, determine how many time slots were needed, and - Assign presentations to time slots in schedule and notify presenters, and - Put out a presentation schedule with titles/abstracts prior to Tucson show - Prepare meeting room for presentations - Assist presenters with use of meeting room equipment While the organization of this could be done by volunteers (I would be willing to volunteer my time), reserving a meeting room would incur a cost. Perhaps the IMCA would have funds in their budget to subsidize this and would consider taking this on. Another option would be to charge a nominal registration fee to attend this "seminar" portion of the show. Again, I think this would only last a day or maybe two. If you think this idea has merit, I have some questions for you... As an attendee, what topics in meteoritics and/or meteorite collecting would you be interested in learning about? Would you consider being a presenter? If so, what topic(s) would you consider doing a presentation on? Would you be willing to pay a registration fee to attend a short meteoritics/meteorite collecting seminar during the Tucson show? If you would rather respond directly to me rather than the list, I can compile/summarize those responses for the list. Thank you, -- Michael ps I've spent a fair amount of time going through the Meteorite Central list archive. I've not seen
[meteorite-list] Educational presentations at Tucson?
In my previous life as a systems librarian at a university, I regularly attended conferences and user group meetings. An integral aspect of these conferences/meetings were educational presentations done by attendees. It occurred to me that presentations are something that might enhance the experience of attending the Tucson Show. For example, while I know that there's nothing I can teach the old hands, there are a number of things I'm figuring out as a newbie that I think would be of interest to other newbies. Here are examples of presentations I would be willing to do, if the opportunity presented itself: 1) Meteorite collection development plans: what they are and why you should have one 2) Meteorite storage and display solutions for small (< 40 specimen) collections And as an *attendee* I would really be interested in presentations from people doing actual meteorite science about the work they are doing (geared towards an educated lay audience). Also, I would be interested in presentations from dealers about various aspects of meteorite acquisition, classification, and preparation. To make this work would require: A meeting room -- A meeting room at one of the main meteorite venues at the Tucson Show that for certain times/days could be devoted to presentations. The room would need to have a basic presentation set-up: a speaker's table and/or podium with a way to connect a computer to a projector and chairs for the audience. The Tucson show lasts two weeks, but I would anticipate that the presentations part would only be for one or maybe two days. Organization Someone to: - Put out a call for presenters, and - Based on response, determine how many time slots were needed, and - Assign presentations to time slots in schedule and notify presenters, and - Put out a presentation schedule with titles/abstracts prior to Tucson show - Prepare meeting room for presentations - Assist presenters with use of meeting room equipment While the organization of this could be done by volunteers (I would be willing to volunteer my time), reserving a meeting room would incur a cost. Perhaps the IMCA would have funds in their budget to subsidize this and would consider taking this on. Another option would be to charge a nominal registration fee to attend this "seminar" portion of the show. Again, I think this would only last a day or maybe two. If you think this idea has merit, I have some questions for you... As an attendee, what topics in meteoritics and/or meteorite collecting would you be interested in learning about? Would you consider being a presenter? If so, what topic(s) would you consider doing a presentation on? Would you be willing to pay a registration fee to attend a short meteoritics/meteorite collecting seminar during the Tucson show? If you would rather respond directly to me rather than the list, I can compile/summarize those responses for the list. Thank you, -- Michael ps I've spent a fair amount of time going through the Meteorite Central list archive. I've not seen any proposals like this, but it's possible I have missed those threads. If so, I would appreciate hearing about any "lessons learned" from previous attempts. Michael Doran Fort Worth, TX __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
