Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-27 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello Pierre

your its a fantastic work, not read the voices of this
last emails
regards

Matteo

--- Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto: 

 Hello again to all of you,
 
 I think this discussion is meaningless and we lose
 our
 time.
 
 If you want to get some information about meteorites
 without registering, go to the Meteoritical Society
 website.
 
 My Encyclopedia of Meteorites' goal is to let
 members add their own collection IF THEY WANT and
 share pictures with others IF THEY WANT.  I could
 have
 made the viewing of meteorites files without
 registration but I'm afraid most of the visitors
 wouldn't have discoverer the collection management
 feature and other cool things on the website.
 Registering involves people to be interested by the
 website. 
 
 I like constructive comments, I spent hundreds of
 hours working on my FREE website. I really don't see
 why it's so outrageous to ask people to register ?
 
 To make a final point about the question of why do
 we
 have to register, I would say that you had to
 register to the Meteorite-List to write to the List,
 John, and didn't complain about it. There are many
 bigger problems in our world and even more
 interesting
 topics about meteorites to speak about.
 
 Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't
 you
 register when you bought your PC and regstered your
 Windows software, didn't you register at your web
 provider ?
 
 Regards,
 
 Pierre-Marie PELE
 
 
   
 
   
   

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[meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
Hello to the List,

I'm happy to announce major improvements to the
Encyclopedia of Meteorite web :
- members can modify their account profile
- members can create a pseudonym so they can be
anonymous
- statistics of your collection
- statistics for each country

If you're not already a member, register now, it's
free !

Regards,

Pierre-Marie PELE
www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com






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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Kashuba, Ontario, California

Pierre-Marie,

Why do you ask people to register to look at the information?

- John

John Kashuba
Ontario, California

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features



Hello to the List,

I'm happy to announce major improvements to the
Encyclopedia of Meteorite web :
- members can modify their account profile
- members can create a pseudonym so they can be
anonymous
- statistics of your collection
- statistics for each country

If you're not already a member, register now, it's
free !

Regards,

Pierre-Marie PELE
www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com






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[meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
Hello John,

I don't understand your question.

Registered members can modify their own account, edit
datas and create a pseudonym. It was not possible
before and was asked by several members.

For non members, I just wrote they can register as
it's free, to enjoy the Encyclopedia...

Registration is necessary in the website so that a
member can't modify or delete the information of
another member. It's always necessary when you program
a website with a database behind. Security is
important.  I don't sell the information if it's what
you think about ?

Regards,

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[meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
Hello again to all of you,

I think this discussion is meaningless and we lose our
time.

If you want to get some information about meteorites
without registering, go to the Meteoritical Society
website.

My Encyclopedia of Meteorites' goal is to let
members add their own collection IF THEY WANT and
share pictures with others IF THEY WANT.  I could have
made the viewing of meteorites files without
registration but I'm afraid most of the visitors
wouldn't have discoverer the collection management
feature and other cool things on the website.
Registering involves people to be interested by the
website. 

I like constructive comments, I spent hundreds of
hours working on my FREE website. I really don't see
why it's so outrageous to ask people to register ?

To make a final point about the question of why do we
have to register, I would say that you had to
register to the Meteorite-List to write to the List,
John, and didn't complain about it. There are many
bigger problems in our world and even more interesting
topics about meteorites to speak about.

Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
register when you bought your PC and regstered your
Windows software, didn't you register at your web
provider ?

Regards,

Pierre-Marie PELE






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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Michael L Blood
See,
I told you I was dumb!
I didn't get it that it included putting up
one's own collection - all makes perfectly good
sense now...
Duh!
Michael

on 9/22/06 2:21 PM, Pelé Pierre-Marie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello again to all of you,
 
 I think this discussion is meaningless and we lose our
 time.
 
 If you want to get some information about meteorites
 without registering, go to the Meteoritical Society
 website.
 
 My Encyclopedia of Meteorites' goal is to let
 members add their own collection IF THEY WANT and
 share pictures with others IF THEY WANT.  I could have
 made the viewing of meteorites files without
 registration but I'm afraid most of the visitors
 wouldn't have discoverer the collection management
 feature and other cool things on the website.
 Registering involves people to be interested by the
 website. 
 
 I like constructive comments, I spent hundreds of
 hours working on my FREE website. I really don't see
 why it's so outrageous to ask people to register ?
 
 To make a final point about the question of why do we
 have to register, I would say that you had to
 register to the Meteorite-List to write to the List,
 John, and didn't complain about it. There are many
 bigger problems in our world and even more interesting
 topics about meteorites to speak about.
 
 Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
 register when you bought your PC and regstered your
 Windows software, didn't you register at your web
 provider ?
 
 Regards,
 
 Pierre-Marie PELE
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi List,

The Encyclopedia of Meteorites is an awesome data
base!
I for one think you've done a great job! Keep up the
good work

Ruben


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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:21:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:


Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
register when you bought your PC 

Nope.

and regstered your
Windows software, 

Nope.

didn't you register at your web
provider ?

Only because I have to.

I haven't tried your site yet, so I'm not complaining about that (though if you
have to register just to view stuff at all, that is usually a sign for me to
move along from a site and not look back) but there is at least one meteorite
site that really annoys me.  I don't know which one it is off the top of my
head, but the person is so paranoid about not having some of the text copied
from their descriptions, they did something to the site that made it stop
Windows from being able to use the clipboard while that site is open.  Not just
not copy from those pages, no other running program is able to copy or paste
anything, either.  If you have anything that you need to copy from any program,
you have to close down any browser windows showing that web site (and when the
problem started showing up every once in a while, it took me a while to figure
out what was happening).  THAT is what I consider an offensive use of
security.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:18:25 -0500, you wrote:

i was under the impression if you asked to copy someone's info, they usually 
said yes.  if they did all the work, it seems to me it's common courtesy to 
ask them first if you can use it to save the work, time, and/or money it 
would take to gather the info yourself.i don't think it's a misuse of 
security issue at all.  just my $0.2. take care
susan

If all it did was stop you from copying text from that web page (as some sites
do) it wouldn't be an issue.  But you seem to not have understood my point-- it
stops cutting and pasting from working AT ALL.  For instance, if you happen to
have that page open and are working on something in Photoshop, you try to copy
an element from one photo to another, you CAN'T, because that web site has
disabled cut and paste.  Or you are working in MS Office, and cutting a piece of
text from one document to another, you CAN'T, because that web site has disabled
cut and paste.  Or you do a little math using calc, and you try to copy the
result to a document, you CAN'T, because... you get the point, and any number of
other examples.  I don't know about other people on the list, but I am almost
always running more than one (and usually more than 2 or 3) things on the
computer at one time, and deeply resent having one web site disable a basic
feature of my full system while that web page happens to be open.  That's what I
mean.




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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features


On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:21:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:


Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
register when you bought your PC

Nope.

and regstered your
Windows software,

Nope.

didn't you register at your web
provider ?

Only because I have to.

I haven't tried your site yet, so I'm not complaining about that (though if 
you
have to register just to view stuff at all, that is usually a sign for me to
move along from a site and not look back) but there is at least one 
meteorite
site that really annoys me.  I don't know which one it is off the top of my
head, but the person is so paranoid about not having some of the text copied
from their descriptions, they did something to the site that made it stop
Windows from being able to use the clipboard while that site is open.  Not 
just
not copy from those pages, no other running program is able to copy or paste
anything, either.  If you have anything that you need to copy from any 
program,
you have to close down any browser windows showing that web site (and when 
the
problem started showing up every once in a while, it took me a while to 
figure
out what was happening).  THAT is what I consider an offensive use of
security.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Rob McCafferty


--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I don't know about other people on
 the list, but I am almost
 always running more than one (and usually more than
 2 or 3) things on the
 computer at one time, 

Who says men can't multi-task!??

RMcC

PS I don't want some smart alec to come back saying
it's the computer that's multi-tasking. I thought of
that already and it's too banal to explain why that
particular comeback is bunk. It has to do with
philosophy and that lot are worse than us.

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Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:18:25 -0500, you wrote:

i was under the impression if you asked to copy someone's info, they usually 
said yes.  if they did all the work, it seems to me it's common courtesy to 
ask them first if you can use it to save the work, time, and/or money it 
would take to gather the info yourself.i don't think it's a misuse of 
security issue at all.  just my $0.2. take care
susan

Okay, lest you think I was blowing smoke out of my rear on the disables cutting
and pasting for the whole computer thing, I googled a bit with the kinds of
meteorites that tend to bring up the site and quickly found the site (or one of
them, if there are more).  Open the page and then try doing any type of cutting
and pasting of anything at all from any program at all while it is open.  (I'm
even having to copy the URL by hand because it is not allowing me to cut and
past even the URL from the address line):
http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_LODRAN.HTM

It causes this problem under MS IE, at least, I don't know if it is the same for
other browsers.  It is the most useful, informative site that I utterly LOATHE
for what it does to your system, and such takeovers of your computer should be
banned from the internet.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread batkol
seems i misunderstood Darren's last email.  he sent me a very nice email off 
list explaining his point and i finally got it.  sorry all for my duh, 
huh?? moment.

susan

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features


i was under the impression if you asked to copy someone's info, they 
usually said yes.  if they did all the work, it seems to me it's common 
courtesy to ask them first if you can use it to save the work, time, and/or 
money it would take to gather the info yourself.i don't think it's a 
misuse of security issue at all.  just my $0.2. take care

susan



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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features


On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:21:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:



Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
register when you bought your PC


Nope.


and regstered your
Windows software,


Nope.


didn't you register at your web
provider ?


Only because I have to.

I haven't tried your site yet, so I'm not complaining about that (though 
if you
have to register just to view stuff at all, that is usually a sign for me 
to
move along from a site and not look back) but there is at least one 
meteorite
site that really annoys me.  I don't know which one it is off the top of 
my
head, but the person is so paranoid about not having some of the text 
copied

from their descriptions, they did something to the site that made it stop
Windows from being able to use the clipboard while that site is open.  Not 
just
not copy from those pages, no other running program is able to copy or 
paste
anything, either.  If you have anything that you need to copy from any 
program,
you have to close down any browser windows showing that web site (and when 
the
problem started showing up every once in a while, it took me a while to 
figure

out what was happening).  THAT is what I consider an offensive use of
security.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:04:07 +0200, you wrote:

Hi Darren,

Cutting and pasting outside of this website works fine when
using Netscape (though cut and paste are diabled within the
webpage itself).  However, with Netscape you can simply click
the View button and then Page Source (or alternatively hit
CTRL U) and you can cut and paste the html text into
Microsoft Word.  --Rob

Okay, that's odd that it still works for some even in IE.  I'm using IE 6 and XP
SP1.  Also have Norton Firewall and Norton Internet Security.  But like I said,
on my system, as long as any page from that site is open, the cut/copy/paste
tools are totally disabled in all applications.  Even the words cut, copy,
and paste are greyed out when you pull down the menus in all programs-- text
editors, photo editors, video editors, e-mail, newsreaders, everything.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, Darren, List

   By a remarkable coincidence, I first experienced
that same little security wrinkle this morning, and I was
completely baffled as to the cause. But now I know
why it happened... and where. It was a mystery at
the time, though.
   I saved everything in progress, shut down every
running application, turned the computer off and back
on, re-started everything, and was cursing WinDoze
for it the whole 10 minutes... (Do I have to apologize
to MicroSoft now? I hope not.)
   Since Darren has identified the site as David Weir's,
I recall from an old List discussion that he had a real
problem with no-necks lifting big chunks of his material
to adorn their eBay auctions. That was the motive for the
security, I suspect. (As an aside, David, there are at least
two ways that I discovered to circumvent that security.
Not that I was snitching text, of course...)
   Another common page security wrinkle is to direct
all right mousekey clicks to a snippy little alert box that
questions the user's integrity and ancestry simultaneously...
I have run into that on a number of older websites; it is
less annoying but equally circumventable.
   It's not the security device that annoys, as much as
not knowing what's wrong! Why not just title every such
.html page as Clipboard Is Disabled While This Window
Is Open. Since IE (and most other browsers) displays
the page title in the top bar of the window, it would save
visitors from going berserk and shutting down their
computers...


Sterling K. Webb
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From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features


On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:21:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:



Registering is part of our computer world. Didn't you
register when you bought your PC


Nope.


and regstered your
Windows software,


Nope.


didn't you register at your web
provider ?


Only because I have to.

I haven't tried your site yet, so I'm not complaining about that (though if 
you

have to register just to view stuff at all, that is usually a sign for me to
move along from a site and not look back) but there is at least one 
meteorite

site that really annoys me.  I don't know which one it is off the top of my
head, but the person is so paranoid about not having some of the text copied
from their descriptions, they did something to the site that made it stop
Windows from being able to use the clipboard while that site is open.  Not 
just

not copy from those pages, no other running program is able to copy or paste
anything, either.  If you have anything that you need to copy from any 
program,
you have to close down any browser windows showing that web site (and when 
the
problem started showing up every once in a while, it took me a while to 
figure

out what was happening).  THAT is what I consider an offensive use of
security.
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Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello Darren, everyone,

http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_LODRAN.HTM
that I utterly LOATHE for what it does to your system, and such takeovers
of your computer should be banned from the internet.

Darren, let's be fair now !!  Now that you've disabled my system who you
think I'm mad at...(I'll get over it).  It ain't David for getting a superb
look at Lodran and being reminded of his enormous and incredible
well-written and superbly organized book he so kindly lets us all read (but
not get typed on disk) free!  Seems like a great deal to me.
Best wishes, Doug

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:18:25 -0500, you wrote:

i was under the impression if you asked to copy someone's info, they
usually
said yes.  if they did all the work, it seems to me it's common courtesy to
ask them first if you can use it to save the work, time, and/or money it
would take to gather the info yourself.i don't think it's a misuse of
security issue at all.  just my $0.2. take care
susan

Okay, lest you think I was blowing smoke out of my rear on the disables
cutting
and pasting for the whole computer thing, I googled a bit with the kinds of
meteorites that tend to bring up the site and quickly found the site (or one
of
them, if there are more).  Open the page and then try doing any type of
cutting
and pasting of anything at all from any program at all while it is open.
(I'm
even having to copy the URL by hand because it is not allowing me to cut and
past even the URL from the address line):
http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_LODRAN.HTM

It causes this problem under MS IE, at least, I don't know if it is the same
for
other browsers.  It is the most useful, informative site that I utterly
LOATHE
for what it does to your system, and such takeovers of your computer should
be
banned from the internet.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

2006-09-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

   Likewise: IE 6, XP HomeEd  SP2.  I also have
Norton 2006 Firewall and Norton 2006 Internet Security...
   I'll bet David Weir has never gotten a complaint
to date... I hadn't figured it out until your post, and he
probably doesn't know it's happening.

Sterling K. Webb
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features

Okay, that's odd that it still works for some even in IE.  I'm using IE 6 
and XP
SP1.  Also have Norton Firewall and Norton Internet Security... 



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