[meteorite-list] Find, Fall Terminology

[Thomas Webb]

All,
The terms find and fall are concise and understood by everyone in the 
meteorite community.  I don't see the need to introduce terms that may lead to 
more ambiguity.  For example:  if find is changed to unobserved fall in 
describing a meteorite it could possibly be an outright false statement since 
it could have been observed by many people but never reported or recorded.   
Also, do we include other animals when we refer to observed?  Who knows who 
or what observed one of those that we call find,  so let's just leave it at 
that and continue to call it a find.   The term fall as it is now used 
means that we have a pretty good record that someone actually saw it streak 
through the atmosphere and recoveries were soon made in the projected fall 
area.  In some cases people have witnessed the actual impact or impacts as they 
happened but this is not required to call it a fall.  Occasionally it may be 
years before a witnessed event produces
 recovered meteorites but if we know the fall area we can tie it to the event 
and still call it a probable fall and end up using just fall with a fairly 
high degree of accuracy.
For practicality and to tie in with what has been used and understood for 
years, I think we should continue to use the terms find and fall.
My best,
Thomas

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Re: [meteorite-list] Find, Fall Terminology

[Greg Hupé]

I find that I prefer 'fall' and 'find' as well, straight to the point. Now I 
better get back to work before I fall behind any more!! ;-)


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-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Webb

Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 5:51 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Find, Fall Terminology

All,
The terms find and fall are concise and understood by everyone in the 
meteorite community.  I don't see the need to introduce terms that may lead 
to more ambiguity.  For example:  if find is changed to unobserved fall 
in describing a meteorite it could possibly be an outright false statement 
since it could have been observed by many people but never reported or 
recorded.   Also, do we include other animals when we refer to observed? 
Who knows who or what observed one of those that we call find,  so let's 
just leave it at that and continue to call it a find.   The term fall as 
it is now used means that we have a pretty good record that someone actually 
saw it streak through the atmosphere and recoveries were soon made in the 
projected fall area.  In some cases people have witnessed the actual impact 
or impacts as they happened but this is not required to call it a fall. 
Occasionally it may be years before a witnessed event produces
recovered meteorites but if we know the fall area we can tie it to the event 
and still call it a probable fall and end up using just fall with a fairly 
high degree of accuracy.
For practicality and to tie in with what has been used and understood for 
years, I think we should continue to use the terms find and fall.

My best,
Thomas

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