Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
The mistake many people make is they concentrate only on moisture control (which is still very important), but we should also worry about oxygen. The use of Oxygen scavengers has been standard in most museums for years now - I recommend them , they are little sachets that contain oxygen absorbing chemical, they need to be replaced periodically, and cannot be recharged like dessicant. Many food manufacturers use them by the bucket load. This stops the other main ingredient of rust! If someone can find out what chemical they use, you could probably buy the chemical powder and make your own, for not much money. Also a sacrificial piece of metal (magnesium or similar) would also eat up free oxygen, which might be a cheap alternative. There are also 'VCI sprays' and VCI foam pads which emit a thin film of molecular oil which helps prevent air getting to the surface of the iron, though these do work they are not all that effective. I did some trials with them and didn't actually notice much of an effect long term over no use. As always dessicant is only effective if you change it regularly , remember that once it is saturated with moisture it is like having a puddle of water in your cabinet when the humidity goes down a bit, the water will re evaporate into the air again - so change it every few weeks! Mark CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us. Email i...@ssl.gb.com. You should not copy or use this email or attachment(s) for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. GENERAL STATEMENT: Southern Scientific Ltd's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. Registered address Rectory Farm Rd, Sompting, Lancing, W Sussex BN15 0DP. Company No 1800317 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi Mike and all, Don't know where you read to have bright lights but having those can cause specimens to bleach out over time. Especially if you use fluorescent lighting. Part of collecting is keeping a watch over specimens and treating them before they become a big problem. Easier to deal with a little superficial oxidation. As one commenter said, keeping oxygen from specimens is important as well as keeping humidity from your specimens. Buying specimens that are not so rust prone if you live in a humid environment is also a good idea. Admire has always been an extremely bad ruster as well as about half of the pallasites. Imilac, Esquel, Seymachan, and Albin have always been very stable. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites and Lab - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Tim, Funny I was going to ask the same exact question today. One of the things I read online was having bright/warm lights in the case where you keep your meteorites. Any other ideas out there? Thanks, Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi Jessica, Muonionalusta tends to rust around the natural outside edges where it was exposed to the weather before it was sliced. In my experience it won't rust in the interior of the slice even if you don't treat the outside edges. If you do treat the outside edges where it rusts, you need to keep it very dry and with desiccant. Be sure your desiccant isn't part of the problem as it will absorb moisture and then contaminate the specimen when it is saturated. Also avoid touching specimens to blue colored desiccant that change when spent. One thing that I have not seen mentioned here, keep meteorites at a uniform temperature. Variations in the room or sunlight hitting specimens or cases will cause a minor amount of condensation and ultimately rust. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites and Lab - Original Message - From: power ofunity energylightandl...@yahoo.com To: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites I have heard Admire is notorious for this...but I am no expert. I second Tim's request for information. I also have a nice slice of Muonionalusta, that I purchased from a list member, that is showing signs of rust around the edges. This piece is not displayed, and is kept in air-tight plastic container with dessicant, yet still is showing the tell-tale signs. Any suggestions for removing and/or preventing rust without damaging or altering the specimen would be greatly appreciated by many on the list. Thanks, Jessica - Original Message From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 5:04:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi Tim and list, Here is what I do to stop rust on my Irons and pallasites. First remove any surface rust by sanding, buffing or with BKF (barkeepers friend). Second, soak the meteorite in Kano Kroil penetrating oil for at least 8 hours. I use this product in my manufacturing business and it has prevented rusting of metal parts that I keep in cold storage for years. Here's a link to there site: _http://www.kanolabs.com/_ (_http://www.kanolabs.com/_ (http://www.kanolabs.com/) ) Third, dry the piece with a cloth. The oil tends to bleed out of pallasites for days because of all there crevices. Fourth, I apply a coat of automotive paste wax. I prefer a brand called Mothers but I believe any quality brand would work just as well. Lastly, I only openly display my etched irons and pallasites during the dry winter months. I live in northern Illinois and the summer humidity can get high. In summer I store these in plastic bags with desiccant and also use a few mini dehumidifiers. _http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/r ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8- 3_ (_http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8-3_ (http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s= home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8-3) ) I treated my 248 gram Admire over a year ago and it has been rust free ever since. Cheers, Jim K In a message dated 10/25/2010 7:04:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, midwestmet...@earthlink.net writes: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
I'm surpriced nobody mentioned this galvanic cleaning method: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/Galvanic.pdf Worked well for me on Brahin (treated more than a year ago) + am using it on a slice of Dronino for about a week now. Wouldn't use it on fresher stones though. These I store in airtight boxes with silicagel. Rob Lenssen www.AsteroidChippings.com - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:04 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Here's another method involving soaking the meteorite in a solution of sodium hydroxide, easily made from Drano. It comes via Steve Schoner. Go to: http://earthsci.org/fossils/space/craters/met/met.html and scroll down to Repairing Meteorites. I've tried this on a number of Dronino rusters and had good success with a few of the pieces (but not one particularly stubborn one). I also regularly coat my irons with a spray from Gander Mt. outdoor stores used to protect gun metal. It's excellent and really has worked on my Campos. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it off hand - something like Resolve or Shield. Bob On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, al mitt alm...@kconline.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Muonionalusta tends to rust around the natural outside edges where it was exposed to the weather before it was sliced. In my experience it won't rust in the interior of the slice even if you don't treat the outside edges. If you do treat the outside edges where it rusts, you need to keep it very dry and with desiccant. Be sure your desiccant isn't part of the problem as it will absorb moisture and then contaminate the specimen when it is saturated. Also avoid touching specimens to blue colored desiccant that change when spent. One thing that I have not seen mentioned here, keep meteorites at a uniform temperature. Variations in the room or sunlight hitting specimens or cases will cause a minor amount of condensation and ultimately rust. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites and Lab - Original Message - From: power ofunity energylightandl...@yahoo.com To: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites I have heard Admire is notorious for this...but I am no expert. I second Tim's request for information. I also have a nice slice of Muonionalusta, that I purchased from a list member, that is showing signs of rust around the edges. This piece is not displayed, and is kept in air-tight plastic container with dessicant, yet still is showing the tell-tale signs. Any suggestions for removing and/or preventing rust without damaging or altering the specimen would be greatly appreciated by many on the list. Thanks, Jessica - Original Message From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 5:04:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hello Jim and Listers, That sounds like a great way to preserve rusters. I am wondering, do you have before and after images of the Admire pallasite? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystorehttp://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Hi Tim and list, Here is what I do to stop rust on my Irons and pallasites. First remove any surface rust by sanding, buffing or with BKF (barkeepers friend). Second, soak the meteorite in Kano Kroil penetrating oil for at least 8 hours. I use this product in my manufacturing business and it has prevented rusting of metal parts that I keep in cold storage for years. Here's a link to there site: _http://www.kanolabs.com/_ (_http://www.kanolabs.com/_ (http://www.kanolabs.com/) ) Third, dry the piece with a cloth. The oil tends to bleed out of pallasites for days because of all there crevices. Fourth, I apply a coat of automotive paste wax. I prefer a brand called Mothers but I believe any quality brand would work just as well. Lastly, I only openly display my etched irons and pallasites during the dry winter months. I live in northern Illinois and the summer humidity can get high. In summer I store these in plastic bags with desiccant and also use a few mini dehumidifiers. _http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/r ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8- 3_ (_http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8-3_ (http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s= home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8-3) ) I treated my 248 gram Admire over a year ago and it has been rust free ever since. Cheers, Jim K __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi List. Mike Miller addressed my larger Dronino slice with fabulous success...I recommend contacting him for his techniques, or better yet, asking for him to help. His work is tops (so is your meteorite finding success, Mike!) -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites I'm surpriced nobody mentioned this galvanic cleaning method: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/Galvanic.pdf Worked well for me on Brahin (treated more than a year ago) + am using it on a slice of Dronino for about a week now. Wouldn't use it on fresher stones though. These I store in airtight boxes with silicagel. Rob Lenssen www.AsteroidChippings.com - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:04 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi Tim and list, Here is what I do to stop rust on my Irons and pallasites. First remove any surface rust by sanding, buffing or with BKF (barkeepers friend). Second, soak the meteorite in Kano Kroil penetrating oil for at least 8 hours. I use this product in my manufacturing business and it has prevented rusting of metal parts that I keep in cold storage for years. Here's a link to there site: _http://www.kanolabs.com/_ (http://www.kanolabs.com/) Third, dry the piece with a cloth. The oil tends to bleed out of pallasites for days because of all there crevices. Fourth, I apply a coat of automotive wax. I prefer a brand called Mothers but I believe any quality brand would work just as well. Lastly, I only openly display my etched irons and pallasites during the dry winter months. I live in northern Illinois and the summer humidity can get high. In summer I store these in plastic with desiccant and also use a few mini dehumidifiers. _http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8- 3_ (http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Model-365-Mini-Dehumidifier/dp/B0028M3YU6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1268267140sr=8-3) I treated my 248 gram Admire over a year ago and it has been rust free ever since. Cheers, Jim K In a message dated 10/25/2010 7:04:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, midwestmet...@earthlink.net writes: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hello Tim, It looks like it is time to contact Bill Mason, also known as Dr. Rust, his website is: _http://www.paleobond.com_ (http://www.paleobond.com) He is a very friendly guy, just ask him for his meteorite-kit. It will help with the Fukang. But maybe not with the Admire, depending on how bad it is now. Admire is another one of our infamous rusters. Good luck. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 10/25/2010 6:04:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time, midwestmet...@earthlink.net writes: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi Tim, The only way to stop the rusting is to send your slices to me. This dry Nevada climate will most certainly stop the rusting! : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 5:04 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Tim, Funny I was going to ask the same exact question today. I started collecting about 1 year ago and am starting to see rust on a few different chondrites and on some irons including a Gibeon I bought from Anne at the rock show in Feb. Anne thanks for the link to Bill Mason's site. I will check that out. I live in Maryland and it is moderate humidity here. Other than sonny's recommendation for rust prevention aren't there other methods / products short of building a humidity controlled room. Maybe some special salts, or a de-humidifier or something? One of the things I read online was having bright/warm lights in the case where you keep your meteorites. Any other ideas out there? Thanks, Mike On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Tim and Mike, In March of this year, I asked a similar question regarding meteorites, humidity and rusting. (I live in FL and it's tough on iron-heavy space rocks.) 1. I want to post a woefully belated thanks to Mike G, Linton, Rohr, Carl, Göran Axelsson, Marco Langbroek, Graham E, John Hendry, Jerry Flaherty and Darryl Pitt for being so incredibly helpful! (I hope I didn't forget anyone.) 2. If you search the Met List for my original subject heading (all or in part) you'll get some excellent answers that are just too numerous and complete to post in one email. My subject was: Meteorites and Humidity: Some Questions . . . Again, belated thanks Met List! You saved my collection from further damage! -- Gracie On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Mike Hankey wrote: Tim, Funny I was going to ask the same exact question today. I started collecting about 1 year ago and am starting to see rust on a few different chondrites and on some irons including a Gibeon I bought from Anne at the rock show in Feb. Anne thanks for the link to Bill Mason's site. I will check that out. I live in Maryland and it is moderate humidity here. Other than sonny's recommendation for rust prevention aren't there other methods / products short of building a humidity controlled room. Maybe some special salts, or a de-humidifier or something? One of the things I read online was having bright/warm lights in the case where you keep your meteorites. Any other ideas out there? Thanks, Mike On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi List, Pat Mulvany does excellent decontamination/stabilization work, even on the worst rusters. http://patmulvanymeteorites.embarqspace.com/ Best regards, MikeG On 10/25/10, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Funny I was going to ask the same exact question today. I started collecting about 1 year ago and am starting to see rust on a few different chondrites and on some irons including a Gibeon I bought from Anne at the rock show in Feb. Anne thanks for the link to Bill Mason's site. I will check that out. I live in Maryland and it is moderate humidity here. Other than sonny's recommendation for rust prevention aren't there other methods / products short of building a humidity controlled room. Maybe some special salts, or a de-humidifier or something? One of the things I read online was having bright/warm lights in the case where you keep your meteorites. Any other ideas out there? Thanks, Mike On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hi List, Mike Mike, I guess all of us have some meteorites that don't behave well, if a find a way that works, I will be sure everyone hears about it. I will be contacting Pat Mulvany soon. Thanks, Tim - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hi List, Pat Mulvany does excellent decontamination/stabilization work, even on the worst rusters. http://patmulvanymeteorites.embarqspace.com/ Best regards, MikeG On 10/25/10, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Funny I was going to ask the same exact question today. I started collecting about 1 year ago and am starting to see rust on a few different chondrites and on some irons including a Gibeon I bought from Anne at the rock show in Feb. Anne thanks for the link to Bill Mason's site. I will check that out. I live in Maryland and it is moderate humidity here. Other than sonny's recommendation for rust prevention aren't there other methods / products short of building a humidity controlled room. Maybe some special salts, or a de-humidifier or something? One of the things I read online was having bright/warm lights in the case where you keep your meteorites. Any other ideas out there? Thanks, Mike On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
Hey Sonny, It's a little more than a slice http://www.meteorman.org/Admire-839g.htm I would seal it up in lucite, if I thought that would work. Nice try:) Tim - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: midwestmet...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hi Tim, The only way to stop the rusting is to send your slices to me. This dry Nevada climate will most certainly stop the rusting! : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 5:04 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites
I have heard Admire is notorious for this...but I am no expert. I second Tim's request for information. I also have a nice slice of Muonionalusta, that I purchased from a list member, that is showing signs of rust around the edges. This piece is not displayed, and is kept in air-tight plastic container with dessicant, yet still is showing the tell-tale signs. Any suggestions for removing and/or preventing rust without damaging or altering the specimen would be greatly appreciated by many on the list. Thanks, Jessica - Original Message From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 5:04:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] I have a problem with some rusting meteorites Hello List Members, I was hoping someone could help me with this one. I have 2 pallasites that are starting to show signs of rusting, an Admire and Fukang. Can someone please tell me what I can do to stop the rusting. Is there a way to clean them up and seal it against any further rusting. I willing to try anything new that might work. Any ideas? I live in St.Louis, its very humid here, I know this might be hard to stop. Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
