Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
Mike, Thanks for the link. It appears that there are three codes that will all honestly reflect the shipment. Brian's code, 7103.10.00.00 is reasonable, your find of Collections and collectors' pieces of zoological, botanical, mineralogical, anatomical, historical, archaeological, palaeontological, ethnographic or numismatic interest: 9705.00.0060 But I don't think your second find works. This one is probably better: Mineral substances not elsewhere specified or included: Other 2530.90.8060 My guess is 9705.00.0060 is the most accurate one to choose but any of the three should be acceptable. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
In response to: = Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:55:49 -0600 From: "Brian Cox" Subject: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages To: "Meteorite-list" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian Schroeder, Warren and all you other blokes!! ;-) Brian, Thanks for sharing the info about the " NATURAL MINERAL SPECIMEN HC # 7103.10.00.00 " Harmonized code. I remember you telling us about this a couple of years ago or maybe longer, and when you mentioned that you'd been working in shipping it rang a bell. Thanks again for this code. I've now saved a file and printed it for future use. It's very much appreciated by me and all the others I'm sure. Warren and Gary, on the issue of you at first hand printing the customs form, which I normally have done in the past and then changing to the ebay printed format, did the printed ebay format have some errors on it or is it just too difficult for customs agents or shipping agents to understand? I gathered that there was something wrong with the ebay new format on their form, but you didn't mention exactly what it was or perhaps my old brain being filled with useless info could not decipher what you said. Let us all know. Hope things work out, and yes, I'm sure the Brits and everyone will be much happier with you. It has amazed me over the past few years that where a few years ago so many meteorites sold by U.S. collectors were only being sold to other U.S. dealers and collectors to now where there is much more of an international group that is buying from the U.S. We're not only all over the universe out in space, but International as well ;-) Have a wonderful, happy and safe day filled with cloud free skys and may a meteorite land in your yard today! Brian Cox -- The Census Bureau (yeah, they own that list!) provides a page to look a product up on "Schedule B", then as a second step, enter the result of that look-up to 'validate' the code as being 'current'. (Computers couldn't do that in one step, could they?) Start here: http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/schedules/b/ In a straightforward search for "collectible mineral specimen", I get directed to a Schedule B Harmonized Code in the 9705 group: 9705 Collections and collectors' pieces of zoological, botanical, mineralogical, anatomical, historical, archaeological, palaeontological, ethnographic or numismatic interest: Numismatic (collectors') coins: 970530 Gold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Au g 970560 Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 970590Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 970600 Antiques of an age exceeding one hundred years X To me, the 90 variant, which is 'other than numismatic coins', seems spot on. Does that lead to big import duties, or delays in delivery? Does this section of the harmonized list seem more attractive: 2517 Pebbles, gravel, broken or crushed stone, of a kind commonly used for concrete aggregates, for road metalling, or for railway or other ballast; shingle and flint, whether or not heat-treated; macadam of slag, dross or similar industrial waste, whether or not incorporating the materials cited in the first part of the heading; tarred macadam; granules, chippings and powder, of stones of heading 2515 or 2516, whether or not heat-treated: 2517.10.00 Pebbles, gravel, broken or crushed stone, of a kind commonly used for concrete aggregates, for road metalling, or for railway or other ballast, shingle and flint, whether or not heat-treated . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Free 30% 2517.15 Pebbles and gravel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . t 2517.20 Limestone, except pebbles and gravel . . . . . . . . . . . t 2517.55 Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . t I don't know what 'road metalling' is, but I'd be willing to bet a good many meteorites have ended up in concrete mixes! And the 2516 series really begs to be used on a variety of achondrite specimens! Can they split hairs fine enough to calculate a duty on a typical collected specimen, based on $8.83/cubic meter? Can't see too many folks falling all over themselves to open a box of rocks like that! Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
Thanks Jeff, What the heck should we use? Now, after you pointed this out, I don't want to use any HC-Harmonized Code. I do remember that code 7103 and 7102 from before and now I think about it, I actually didn't use it since I was afraid it would get someone's attention who might want to steal gemstones or in the case of 7102 ,which is for any kind of diamonds, rough, unworked or simply sawn, etc. If you look under http://hts.usitc.gov/Table%2025.xml it gives you every kind of other rock, asbestos, sandstone, cement etc., but nothing really that seems perfect for meteorites. I looked up the 7102 on the http://hts.usitc.gov and it gave 20 categories, all of the rough diamond listings below. I don't think we should use those either, since someone might think they're rough diamonds and turn into a mole and swallow them at the shipping company or the Customs Department. If they swallow Murchison they might turn into a Super Human or an Alien. ;-) Thanks, Brian Cox Search Results 20 Results Returned 7102 Diamonds, whether or not worked, but not mounted or set: 7102.10. Unsorted 7102.21 Industrial: 7102.21 Unworked or simply sawn, cleaved or bruted: 7102.21.10 Miners' diamonds 7102.21.1010 Carbonados 7102.21.1020 Other 7102.21.3000 Other: 7102.21.3000 Simply sawn, cleaved or bruted 7102.21.4000 Other 7102.29.00 Other 7102.29.0010 Miners' diamonds: 7102.29.0010 Carbonados 7102.29.0020 Other 7102.29.0050 Other 7102.31. Nonindustrial: 7102.31. Unworked or simply sawn, cleaved or bruted 7102.39.00 Other 7102.39.0010 Weighing not over 0.5 carat each 7102.39.0050 Weighing over 0.5 carat each __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [IMCA] RE- Customs holding packages
Brian Schroeder, Warren and all you other blokes!! ;-) Brian, Thanks for sharing the info about the " NATURAL MINERAL SPECIMEN HC # 7103.10.00.00 " Harmonized code. I remember you telling us about this a couple of years ago or maybe longer, and when you mentioned that you'd been working in shipping it rang a bell. Thanks again for this code. I've now saved a file and printed it for future use. It's very much appreciated by me and all the others I'm sure. Warren and Gary, on the issue of you at first hand printing the customs form, which I normally have done in the past and then changing to the ebay printed format, did the printed ebay format have some errors on it or is it just too difficult for customs agents or shipping agents to understand? I gathered that there was something wrong with the ebay new format on their form, but you didn't mention exactly what it was or perhaps my old brain being filled with useless info could not decipher what you said. Let us all know. Hope things work out, and yes, I'm sure the Brits and everyone will be much happier with you. It has amazed me over the past few years that where a few years ago so many meteorites sold by U.S. collectors were only being sold to other U.S. dealers and collectors to now where there is much more of an international group that is buying from the U.S. We're not only all over the universe out in space, but International as well ;-) Have a wonderful, happy and safe day filled with cloud free skys and may a meteorite land in your yard today! Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
