Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Met with Petrus Jenniskens tonight in Novato at the at the original find site in order to re-examine the N01 stone (which had been returned to the finders). This was my first opportunity to examine this stone. I had my small microscope with me and I took some snap-shots down the eye-piece (see below). I will not comment on these images, preferring instead to honor Peter's request to keep tuned and allow him to make the first (second?third?) announcement. But I do want to thank the Rivera Family for inviting Peter and myself for dinner tonight. The food and wine were delicious, and the conversation was enthusiastic and jubilant (and not just because the Giants won game 1 of the World Series). A photo of Luis Rivera appears on the front page of today's local newspaper (Novato Advance): http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Meteorite-Discovered-in-Novato-Yard-175158691.html http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-60.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-63.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-68.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-72.jpg Images courtesy of Bob Verish. --- On Wed, 10/24/12, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: From: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:14 PM Hold on and keep tuned ! 2012, October 23 - There are more developments today. An apology may have been too hssty. We are waiting for confirmation of the new insight. Keep tuned. http://cams.seti.org/ Let's quote Phil: This is turning into a mystery wrapped inside an enigma. ;-) Martin Von: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:39:12 +0200 Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:45:11 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock It's also Spanish for No Go, literally. Also 'Novato' in spanish in fact means rookie, novice, ... Which is also kinda 'funny'. Best regards, Leo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Come on guys, how could you not tell if this is a meteorite? I can tell from the photos it looks just like most Park Forest stones. Of course after buying and selling and finding thousands of different meteorites I guess a lot of practice comes into play. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote: Met with Petrus Jenniskens tonight in Novato at the at the original find site in order to re-examine the N01 stone (which had been returned to the finders). This was my first opportunity to examine this stone. I had my small microscope with me and I took some snap-shots down the eye-piece (see below). I will not comment on these images, preferring instead to honor Peter's request to keep tuned and allow him to make the first (second?third?) announcement. But I do want to thank the Rivera Family for inviting Peter and myself for dinner tonight. The food and wine were delicious, and the conversation was enthusiastic and jubilant (and not just because the Giants won game 1 of the World Series). A photo of Luis Rivera appears on the front page of today's local newspaper (Novato Advance): http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Meteorite-Discovered-in-Novato-Yard-175158691.html http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-60.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-63.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-68.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-72.jpg Images courtesy of Bob Verish. --- On Wed, 10/24/12, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: From: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:14 PM Hold on and keep tuned ! 2012, October 23 - There are more developments today. An apology may have been too hssty. We are waiting for confirmation of the new insight. Keep tuned. http://cams.seti.org/ Let's quote Phil: This is turning into a mystery wrapped inside an enigma. ;-) Martin Von: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:39:12 +0200 Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
HI Michael and Muenchen! Have a fantastic time and greet every one there from the good old USA! Yes, you can tell very easy from Bob's images that he just took yesterday evening. And yes several people did see the images from Peter J. (cams.seti.org) and Brien Cook's images and knew it was a meteorite. According to Bob though it looks similar to a tar covered piece of slag. He of course knew also from their images that they were meteorites! Have a good German beer for all of us and sell lots of meteorites! Enjoy, Moni From: m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:55:31 +0200 To: bolidecha...@yahoo.com CC: petrus.m.jennisk...@nasa.gov; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock Come on guys, how could you not tell if this is a meteorite? I can tell from the photos it looks just like most Park Forest stones. Of course after buying and selling and finding thousands of different meteorites I guess a lot of practice comes into play. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote: Met with Petrus Jenniskens tonight in Novato at the at the original find site in order to re-examine the N01 stone (which had been returned to the finders). This was my first opportunity to examine this stone. I had my small microscope with me and I took some snap-shots down the eye-piece (see below). I will not comment on these images, preferring instead to honor Peter's request to keep tuned and allow him to make the first (second?third?) announcement. But I do want to thank the Rivera Family for inviting Peter and myself for dinner tonight. The food and wine were delicious, and the conversation was enthusiastic and jubilant (and not just because the Giants won game 1 of the World Series). A photo of Luis Rivera appears on the front page of today's local newspaper (Novato Advance): http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Meteorite-Discovered-in-Novato-Yard-175158691.html http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-60.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-63.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-68.jpg http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2012/n1/novato1-72.jpg Images courtesy of Bob Verish. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Well, the first four letters of Novato are Nova, which is the Met Bull designation for meteorites of uncertain origin. ;) It's also Spanish for No Go, literally. So is Novato the real deal, or is it a bust? Outside of the initial hammer-wrong and Brien's report, we aren't hearing reports from anyone else. Has anyone else found a specimen or confirmed Brien's stone? Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 10/24/12, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock
Hold on and keep tuned ! 2012, October 23 - There are more developments today. An appology may have been too hssty. We are waiting for confirmation of the new insight. Keep tuned. http://cams.seti.org/ Let's quote Phil: This is turning into a mystery wrapped inside an enigma. ;-) Martin Von: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:39:12 +0200 Shawn, I agree, the second rock doesn't look like a meteorite either. Has it been examined by an expert? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Hello Listers Just found this, might be interesting for others that are hunting for meteorites in Novato area. After a fireball streaked across the Bay Area sky last Wednesday evening, scientists and locals alike have been on the hunt for pieces of the meteor that is believed to have made landfall in the Bay Area. On Tuesday the meteor astronomer with the SETI Institute who reported over the weekend that the first piece of the meteor was found after it hit the roof of a Novato home clarified that the suspected meteorite discovered there is actually a natural rock. Dr. Peter Jenniskens with the SETI Institute said on his NASA Ames Research Center webpage the house of administrative nurse at the University of California at San Francisco Lisa Webber was hit by something during the fireball's descent last Wednesday evening, but the meteorite remains elusive. After an examination using a petrographic microscope Monday, Jenniskens was able to conclude the rock was not a meteorite. He wrote Tuesday, I sincerely thought it was, based on what appeared to me was remnant fusion crust. On closer inspection, that crust was a product of weathering of a natural rock, not from the heat of entry. The 2-inch rock is 63 grams, dense and responds to a magnet, according to information from the SETI Institute, a nonprofit scientific and education organization that has projects sponsored by NASA and other foundations and research groups source: http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/intergalactic-false-alarm-novato-meteorite-is-just-a-rock The sample that was first found looks like the second sample that was found. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
